[jira] [Commented] (OFBIZ-5312) Proposal: URL-Generation Changes (mostly for SEO reasons but not only)
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Jacques Le Roux commented on OFBIZ-5312:
I think we should rather create a new one. I believe I have not to explain why,
should I?
> Proposal: URL-Generation Changes (mostly for SEO reasons but not only)
> --
>
> Key: OFBIZ-5312
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-5312
> Project: OFBiz
> Issue Type: New Feature
> Components: specialpurpose/ecommerce
>Affects Versions: Trunk
>Reporter: Jacques Le Roux
>Assignee: Jacques Le Roux
>Priority: Minor
> Labels: changes, ecommerce, friendly, seo, url
> Fix For: 16.11.01
>
> Attachments: classloaderpatch.txt,
> OFBiz-5312-allowpaths-email-jsp-patch-20140625.patch,
> OFBIZ-5312-infinite-loop-20141209.patch, OFBIZ-5312 -
> ofbiz-ecommerce-seo.patch, OFBIZ-5312 - ofbiz-ecommerce-seo.patch, OFBIZ-5312
> - ofbiz-ecommerce-seo.patch, OFBIZ-5312 - ofbiz-ecommerce-seo.patch,
> OFBIZ-5312 - ofbiz-ecommerce-seo.patch, OFBIZ-5312 -
> ofbiz-ecommerce-seo.patch, OFBIZ-5312 - ofbiz-ecommerce-seo.patch, OFBIZ-5312
> - ofbiz-ecommerce-seo.patch, OFBIZ-5312 - ofbiz-ecommerce-seo.patch,
> OFBIZ-5312 - ofbiz-ecommerce-seo.patch, OFBIZ-5312 -
> ofbiz-ecommerce-seo.patch, OFBIZ-5312 - ofbiz-ecommerce-seo.patch,
> OFBiz-5312-product-ecommerce-seo-20131031.patch,
> OFBiz-5312-product-ecommerce-seo-for-seo-branch.patch,
> OFBiz-5312-product-ecommerce-seo.patch, SeoContextFilter.java.patch
>
>
> [This was proposed by Paul Piper in Nabble 7 months
> ago|http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/Proposal-URL-Generation-Changes-td4639289.html].
> Here is quoted Paul's proposal
> {quote}
> Hey Everyone,
> over at ilscipio (www.ilscipio.com) we developed a set of functional OFBiz
> changes that we believe the entire community could benefit from. The changes
> have been implemented in parts in Syracus (www.syracus.net) for a while now,
> but we figured that some of which are too crucial for ofbiz' success in the
> long run, so we are considering the contribution (as we did with the SOLR
> component).
> As you are probably aware, OFBiz has a pretty uncommon way of generating
> URLs. Most of this has to do with the fact that OFBiz uses a servlet
> (ControlServlet) to handle all requests. The servlet is mounted at /control,
> so that it won't interfere with other servlets. Though functionally valid,
> this has the sideeffect that all urls are actually created on /control, which
> is neither pretty, nor good by any measures of SEO. It also means that a few
> 302 redirects are necessary to forward the user from / to /control/main. It
> also makes requests more complicated, since many forwards are necessary
> whenever somebody wants to move away from this implementation.
> Since this is hurtful to many of the implementers, I wanted to discuss
> whether or not you guys would be interested in the changes we have made. The
> functional changes contain:
> * Removal of /control out of all the urls
> * SEO-friendly URLS
> * Configurable product/category and other URLs
> * Frontpage mapping from /main to /
> It was tested on our end and contains all necessary improvements (Transforms,
> Sample Configuration, Servlets & Filters) for it to be applicable.
> If interested, I would create a new JIRA ticket for this and after a few
> minor internal discussions, we will gladly provide the rest of you with it.
> Regards,
> Paul
> {quote}
> There is even a patch, mostly done by Jinghai Shi, that I attach here. Even
> if it has been already used in [Syracus|http://syracus.net/] since early this
> year, some help would be needed to test it thoroughly in OFBiz.
> Then we should discuss if it's the way to go. I believe it is. Who needs a
> /control/ or /main by default in ecommerce urls? Would you not prefer
> http://localhost:8080/ecommerce/ over
> http://localhost:8080/ecommerce/control/main ?
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Pierre Smits commented on OFBIZ-5312:
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Maybe this issue should be reopened?
> Proposal: URL-Generation Changes (mostly for SEO reasons but not only)
> --
>
> Key: OFBIZ-5312
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-5312
> Project: OFBiz
> Issue Type: New Feature
> Components: specialpurpose/ecommerce
>Affects Versions: Trunk
>Reporter: Jacques Le Roux
>Assignee: Jacques Le Roux
>Priority: Minor
> Labels: changes, ecommerce, friendly, seo, url
> Fix For: 16.11.01
>
> Attachments: classloaderpatch.txt,
> OFBiz-5312-allowpaths-email-jsp-patch-20140625.patch,
> OFBIZ-5312-infinite-loop-20141209.patch, OFBIZ-5312 -
> ofbiz-ecommerce-seo.patch, OFBIZ-5312 - ofbiz-ecommerce-seo.patch, OFBIZ-5312
> - ofbiz-ecommerce-seo.patch, OFBIZ-5312 - ofbiz-ecommerce-seo.patch,
> OFBIZ-5312 - ofbiz-ecommerce-seo.patch, OFBIZ-5312 -
> ofbiz-ecommerce-seo.patch, OFBIZ-5312 - ofbiz-ecommerce-seo.patch, OFBIZ-5312
> - ofbiz-ecommerce-seo.patch, OFBIZ-5312 - ofbiz-ecommerce-seo.patch,
> OFBIZ-5312 - ofbiz-ecommerce-seo.patch, OFBIZ-5312 -
> ofbiz-ecommerce-seo.patch, OFBIZ-5312 - ofbiz-ecommerce-seo.patch,
> OFBiz-5312-product-ecommerce-seo-20131031.patch,
> OFBiz-5312-product-ecommerce-seo-for-seo-branch.patch,
> OFBiz-5312-product-ecommerce-seo.patch, SeoContextFilter.java.patch
>
>
> [This was proposed by Paul Piper in Nabble 7 months
> ago|http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/Proposal-URL-Generation-Changes-td4639289.html].
> Here is quoted Paul's proposal
> {quote}
> Hey Everyone,
> over at ilscipio (www.ilscipio.com) we developed a set of functional OFBiz
> changes that we believe the entire community could benefit from. The changes
> have been implemented in parts in Syracus (www.syracus.net) for a while now,
> but we figured that some of which are too crucial for ofbiz' success in the
> long run, so we are considering the contribution (as we did with the SOLR
> component).
> As you are probably aware, OFBiz has a pretty uncommon way of generating
> URLs. Most of this has to do with the fact that OFBiz uses a servlet
> (ControlServlet) to handle all requests. The servlet is mounted at /control,
> so that it won't interfere with other servlets. Though functionally valid,
> this has the sideeffect that all urls are actually created on /control, which
> is neither pretty, nor good by any measures of SEO. It also means that a few
> 302 redirects are necessary to forward the user from / to /control/main. It
> also makes requests more complicated, since many forwards are necessary
> whenever somebody wants to move away from this implementation.
> Since this is hurtful to many of the implementers, I wanted to discuss
> whether or not you guys would be interested in the changes we have made. The
> functional changes contain:
> * Removal of /control out of all the urls
> * SEO-friendly URLS
> * Configurable product/category and other URLs
> * Frontpage mapping from /main to /
> It was tested on our end and contains all necessary improvements (Transforms,
> Sample Configuration, Servlets & Filters) for it to be applicable.
> If interested, I would create a new JIRA ticket for this and after a few
> minor internal discussions, we will gladly provide the rest of you with it.
> Regards,
> Paul
> {quote}
> There is even a patch, mostly done by Jinghai Shi, that I attach here. Even
> if it has been already used in [Syracus|http://syracus.net/] since early this
> year, some help would be needed to test it thoroughly in OFBiz.
> Then we should discuss if it's the way to go. I believe it is. Who needs a
> /control/ or /main by default in ecommerce urls? Would you not prefer
> http://localhost:8080/ecommerce/ over
> http://localhost:8080/ecommerce/control/main ?
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Jacques Le Roux commented on OFBIZ-5312:
Thanks Paul,
bq. Good, clean URLs are good for human beings, not just for SEO.
.../control/... is definitely not a good, clean URL.
This helps to get on the right way!
bq. Good, clean URLs are beneficial for all of OFBiz, not just e-commerce, not
just product information.
Do you think we need to apply the same scheme everywhere? Even in backend?
bq. The solution is to add a canonical URL link
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canonical_link_element) to the content, to make
clear the primary URL and to make clear alternative URLs are just that,
alternative paths to the same thing.
That's quite a good idea, have you an idea on how to implement that in OFBiz?
> Proposal: URL-Generation Changes (mostly for SEO reasons but not only)
> --
>
> Key: OFBIZ-5312
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-5312
> Project: OFBiz
> Issue Type: New Feature
> Components: specialpurpose/ecommerce
>Affects Versions: Trunk
>Reporter: Jacques Le Roux
>Assignee: Jacques Le Roux
>Priority: Minor
> Labels: changes, ecommerce, friendly, seo, url
> Fix For: 16.11.01
>
> Attachments: classloaderpatch.txt,
> OFBiz-5312-allowpaths-email-jsp-patch-20140625.patch,
> OFBIZ-5312-infinite-loop-20141209.patch, OFBIZ-5312 -
> ofbiz-ecommerce-seo.patch, OFBIZ-5312 - ofbiz-ecommerce-seo.patch, OFBIZ-5312
> - ofbiz-ecommerce-seo.patch, OFBIZ-5312 - ofbiz-ecommerce-seo.patch,
> OFBIZ-5312 - ofbiz-ecommerce-seo.patch, OFBIZ-5312 -
> ofbiz-ecommerce-seo.patch, OFBIZ-5312 - ofbiz-ecommerce-seo.patch, OFBIZ-5312
> - ofbiz-ecommerce-seo.patch, OFBIZ-5312 - ofbiz-ecommerce-seo.patch,
> OFBIZ-5312 - ofbiz-ecommerce-seo.patch, OFBIZ-5312 -
> ofbiz-ecommerce-seo.patch, OFBIZ-5312 - ofbiz-ecommerce-seo.patch,
> OFBiz-5312-product-ecommerce-seo-20131031.patch,
> OFBiz-5312-product-ecommerce-seo-for-seo-branch.patch,
> OFBiz-5312-product-ecommerce-seo.patch, SeoContextFilter.java.patch
>
>
> [This was proposed by Paul Piper in Nabble 7 months
> ago|http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/Proposal-URL-Generation-Changes-td4639289.html].
> Here is quoted Paul's proposal
> {quote}
> Hey Everyone,
> over at ilscipio (www.ilscipio.com) we developed a set of functional OFBiz
> changes that we believe the entire community could benefit from. The changes
> have been implemented in parts in Syracus (www.syracus.net) for a while now,
> but we figured that some of which are too crucial for ofbiz' success in the
> long run, so we are considering the contribution (as we did with the SOLR
> component).
> As you are probably aware, OFBiz has a pretty uncommon way of generating
> URLs. Most of this has to do with the fact that OFBiz uses a servlet
> (ControlServlet) to handle all requests. The servlet is mounted at /control,
> so that it won't interfere with other servlets. Though functionally valid,
> this has the sideeffect that all urls are actually created on /control, which
> is neither pretty, nor good by any measures of SEO. It also means that a few
> 302 redirects are necessary to forward the user from / to /control/main. It
> also makes requests more complicated, since many forwards are necessary
> whenever somebody wants to move away from this implementation.
> Since this is hurtful to many of the implementers, I wanted to discuss
> whether or not you guys would be interested in the changes we have made. The
> functional changes contain:
> * Removal of /control out of all the urls
> * SEO-friendly URLS
> * Configurable product/category and other URLs
> * Frontpage mapping from /main to /
> It was tested on our end and contains all necessary improvements (Transforms,
> Sample Configuration, Servlets & Filters) for it to be applicable.
> If interested, I would create a new JIRA ticket for this and after a few
> minor internal discussions, we will gladly provide the rest of you with it.
> Regards,
> Paul
> {quote}
> There is even a patch, mostly done by Jinghai Shi, that I attach here. Even
> if it has been already used in [Syracus|http://syracus.net/] since early this
> year, some help would be needed to test it thoroughly in OFBiz.
> Then we should discuss if it's the way to go. I believe it is. Who needs a
> /control/ or /main by default in ecommerce urls? Would you not prefer
> http://localhost:8080/ecommerce/ over
> http://localhost:8080/ecommerce/control/main ?
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