add delete keybinding

[Carl Worth]

On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 16:16:02 -0700, Dirk Hohndel  
wrote:
> I'm sending this mostly as an RFC - I use this and like it, but
> people seem to have strong feelings as to how they want to deal 
> with deleting email (or for some people, how they don't want to
> do that at all).

I like the idea of adding the deleted tag with a 'd' keybinding.

I also agree with the comments that suggest that this should be
independent of the archiving operation. (That is, 'd' should just add
the deleted tag and do nothing else.)

With sup, there was the idea to not make the user add "add not
tag:deleted" to all searches. The way that worked was basically that sup
would append "and not tag:deleted" to all searches except for those that
already had "tag:deleted" in them. This allows deleted messages to give
every appearance of being deleted, (they would not show up in searches),
but a user *could* still find them[*] by explicitly saying "and
tag:deleted" in the search.

I don't think it makes sense to add a delete keybinding without some
support along the lines of what's described above.

It does seem out of character for the library or even the command-line
to do interpretation of tag names and munging of search strings like
this. So I think all of the above should be implemented within emacs
code. It's the emacs code that is adding the "deleted" tag so it should
be interpreting its behavior as well.

-Carl

[*] Until the user did some sort of external expunge operation that
actually deleted the files, of course.
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Re: add delete keybinding

[Carl Worth]

On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 16:16:02 -0700, Dirk Hohndel hohn...@infradead.org wrote:
 I'm sending this mostly as an RFC - I use this and like it, but
 people seem to have strong feelings as to how they want to deal 
 with deleting email (or for some people, how they don't want to
 do that at all).

I like the idea of adding the deleted tag with a 'd' keybinding.

I also agree with the comments that suggest that this should be
independent of the archiving operation. (That is, 'd' should just add
the deleted tag and do nothing else.)

With sup, there was the idea to not make the user add add not
tag:deleted to all searches. The way that worked was basically that sup
would append and not tag:deleted to all searches except for those that
already had tag:deleted in them. This allows deleted messages to give
every appearance of being deleted, (they would not show up in searches),
but a user *could* still find them[*] by explicitly saying and
tag:deleted in the search.

I don't think it makes sense to add a delete keybinding without some
support along the lines of what's described above.

It does seem out of character for the library or even the command-line
to do interpretation of tag names and munging of search strings like
this. So I think all of the above should be implemented within emacs
code. It's the emacs code that is adding the deleted tag so it should
be interpreting its behavior as well.

-Carl

[*] Until the user did some sort of external expunge operation that
actually deleted the files, of course.


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add delete keybinding

[Dirk Hohndel]

Straight forward addition to the Emacs UI. The 'd' keybinding
is implemented very similar to the 'a' keybinding - it only
adds a +deleted tag as well. This tag is used by notmuchsync
to delete (-p "prune") files in the mailstore.

I'm sending this mostly as an RFC - I use this and like it, but
people seem to have strong feelings as to how they want to deal 
with deleting email (or for some people, how they don't want to
do that at all).

/D

add delete keybinding

[Dirk Hohndel]

Straight forward addition to the Emacs UI. The 'd' keybinding
is implemented very similar to the 'a' keybinding - it only
adds a +deleted tag as well. This tag is used by notmuchsync
to delete (-p prune) files in the mailstore.

I'm sending this mostly as an RFC - I use this and like it, but
people seem to have strong feelings as to how they want to deal 
with deleting email (or for some people, how they don't want to
do that at all).

/D

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