[Nouveau] [Bug 111642] NV43 GeForce 6600 Nouveau is not stable on legacy hardware

2019-12-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=111642

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[Nouveau] [Bug 111642] NV43 GeForce 6600 Nouveau is not stable on legacy hardware

2019-09-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #17 from Vasili Pupkin  ---
It seems that this timeout error in nv41_vmm_flush may not be the cause of the
problem but a consequence of the bug. nouveau starts issuing this timeout
exception log after a freeze and there can be quite a few such timeouts until I
restart the system.

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[Nouveau] [Bug 111642] NV43 GeForce 6600 Nouveau is not stable on legacy hardware

2019-09-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #16 from Vasili Pupkin  ---
I am using gnome 3.28.2 on xorg 1.20.4, wayland disappeared from the list on
gdm login screen after recent upgrades

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[Nouveau] [Bug 111642] NV43 GeForce 6600 Nouveau is not stable on legacy hardware

2019-09-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #15 from Ilia Mirkin  ---
Your desktop environment could be trying to add the second GPU's outputs and/or
trying to use it for render offload. Neither will work well with nv4x
generation GPUs. I can believe that the set_domain stuff is failing because of
that. I hadn't considered that option.

The timeout is bad - that means something hung. Probably the messages before
that would be more interesting than after. The first error tends to be the most
useful one.

What desktop environment are you using, if any?

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[Nouveau] [Bug 111642] NV43 GeForce 6600 Nouveau is not stable on legacy hardware

2019-09-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #14 from Vasili Pupkin  ---
The system has two identical card installed (I completely forgotten about this
fact because no monitor is connected to the second adapter). I've connected
monitor to the second one and it only shows cursor, no window is shown when I
move one to the second monitor. Ok. I removed the second card and nouveau stop
spinning dmesg with those messages. The freezes remains and it feels less
stable with one card than it was with two cards, rarely survive more than five
minutes.

So there are two questions: 
Are those messages a bug or the two adapter setup require some additional
configuration to work properly?
How to debug freezes? Ctrl+Alt+F2 doesn't work.

I've found this stacktrace in syslog at the end, not sure if it is the last
stack before crash

[ cut here ]
nouveau :01:00.0: timeout


 Call Trace:
  nvkm_vmm_iter.constprop.12+0x2e5/0x880 [nouveau]
  ? nv41_vmm_pgt_sgl+0x140/0x140 [nouveau]
  ? nvkm_vmm_free_insert+0x80/0x80 [nouveau]
  ? nvkm_vmm_put_region+0xd0/0x160 [nouveau]
  nvkm_vmm_ptes_unmap_put+0x32/0x50 [nouveau]
  ? nv41_vmm_pgt_sgl+0x140/0x140 [nouveau]
  nvkm_vmm_put_locked+0x103/0x220 [nouveau]
  nvkm_uvmm_mthd+0x7eb/0x850 [nouveau]
  nvkm_object_mthd+0x1a/0x30 [nouveau]
  nvkm_ioctl_mthd+0x5d/0xb0 [nouveau]
  nvkm_ioctl+0x11d/0x280 [nouveau]
  nvkm_client_ioctl+0x12/0x20 [nouveau]
  nvif_object_ioctl+0x47/0x50 [nouveau]
  nvif_object_mthd+0x129/0x150 [nouveau]
  ? __ttm_dma_free_page.isra.5+0x32/0x40 [ttm]
  ? isolate_huge_page+0x30/0xa0
  ? __ttm_dma_free_page.isra.5+0x32/0x40 [ttm]
  ? ttm_dma_page_put+0x53/0x90 [ttm]
  nvif_vmm_put+0x5f/0x80 [nouveau]
  nouveau_mem_fini+0x3b/0x70 [nouveau]
  nv04_sgdma_unbind+0x12/0x20 [nouveau]
  ttm_tt_unbind+0x21/0x40 [ttm]
  ttm_tt_destroy.part.12+0x12/0x60 [ttm]
  ttm_tt_destroy+0x13/0x20 [ttm]
  ttm_bo_cleanup_memtype_use+0x32/0x70 [ttm]
  ttm_bo_cleanup_refs+0x1c0/0x200 [ttm]
  ? ttm_mem_global_free+0x13/0x20 [ttm]
  ttm_bo_delayed_delete+0x1cd/0x1e0 [ttm]
  ttm_bo_delayed_workqueue+0x1b/0x40 [ttm]
  process_one_work+0x1fd/0x400
  worker_thread+0x34/0x410
  kthread+0x121/0x140
  ? process_one_work+0x400/0x400
  ? kthread_park+0x90/0x90
  ret_from_fork+0x35/0x40

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[Nouveau] [Bug 111642] NV43 GeForce 6600 Nouveau is not stable on legacy hardware

2019-09-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #13 from Ilia Mirkin  ---
(In reply to Vasili Pupkin from comment #12)
> It shows
> 
> OpenGL renderer string: llvmpipe (LLVM 8.0, 256 bits)

OK. So you've successfully killed off nouveau GL impl, but you're still seeing
those errors? That's very very very surprising.

Can you tell me more about your environment? (Have you tried restarting your
desktop / window manager? Otherwise this is all moot.)

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[Nouveau] [Bug 111642] NV43 GeForce 6600 Nouveau is not stable on legacy hardware

2019-09-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #12 from Vasili Pupkin  ---
It shows

OpenGL renderer string: llvmpipe (LLVM 8.0, 256 bits)

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[Nouveau] [Bug 111642] NV43 GeForce 6600 Nouveau is not stable on legacy hardware

2019-09-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #11 from Ilia Mirkin  ---
(In reply to Vasili Pupkin from comment #10)
> Removing nouveau_dri.so didn't help either

Erm ... that implies that the error is not from what I think it is.

Just to super-triple-check ... run "glxinfo" - does that say you're using
LLVMpipe or nouveau?

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[Nouveau] [Bug 111642] NV43 GeForce 6600 Nouveau is not stable on legacy hardware

2019-09-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #10 from Vasili Pupkin  ---
Removing nouveau_dri.so didn't help either

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[Nouveau] [Bug 111642] NV43 GeForce 6600 Nouveau is not stable on legacy hardware

2019-09-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #9 from Ilia Mirkin  ---
(In reply to Vasili Pupkin from comment #8)
> LIBGL_ALWAYS_SOFTWARE=1 didn't help at all, same messages in dmesg and syslog

Must not have gotten picked up =/

Just remove nouveau_dri.so from ... /usr/lib/dri/ or something along those
lines.

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[Nouveau] [Bug 111642] NV43 GeForce 6600 Nouveau is not stable on legacy hardware

2019-09-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #8 from Vasili Pupkin  ---
LIBGL_ALWAYS_SOFTWARE=1 didn't help at all, same messages in dmesg and syslog

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[Nouveau] [Bug 111642] NV43 GeForce 6600 Nouveau is not stable on legacy hardware

2019-09-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #7 from Ilia Mirkin  ---
In the meanwhile, I suspect if you add LIBGL_ALWAYS_SOFTWARE=1 into your
/etc/environment, you will be much happier.

You can then still enable GL for certain programs that you actually want to use
it for, but not for random GTK/Qt programs that want to draw a button and think
it's a great idea to start using GL for that.

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[Nouveau] [Bug 111642] NV43 GeForce 6600 Nouveau is not stable on legacy hardware

2019-09-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #6 from Vasili Pupkin  ---
The lack of human resources is sad but it is still a bug. Mark it as wontfix if
the support of this legacy hardware is outside of the project goal. 

I am happy to test a patch if it is not architectural impossible in nouveau to
fix it and back vram in main memory.

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[Nouveau] [Bug 111642] NV43 GeForce 6600 Nouveau is not stable on legacy hardware

2019-09-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #5 from Ilia Mirkin  ---
(In reply to Vasili Pupkin from comment #4)
> This diagnostics is only make sense for developers of nouveau. 
> nvidia-304 drivers are dropped and nouveau seams like the only out of the
> box option for Ubuntu 18.04. But why is nvidia drivers don't experience this
> lack of vram problem?

Because they've had man-decades invested into their development to ensure that
they handle these types of situations well. Nouveau GL drivers have not.

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[Nouveau] [Bug 111642] NV43 GeForce 6600 Nouveau is not stable on legacy hardware

2019-09-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #4 from Vasili Pupkin  ---
This diagnostics is only make sense for developers of nouveau. 
nvidia-304 drivers are dropped and nouveau seams like the only out of the box
option for Ubuntu 18.04. But why is nvidia drivers don't experience this lack
of vram problem?

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[Nouveau] [Bug 111642] NV43 GeForce 6600 Nouveau is not stable on legacy hardware

2019-09-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #3 from Ilia Mirkin  ---
(In reply to Vasili Pupkin from comment #2)
> Ubuntu 16.04 works just fine with nvidia-304 drivers. If the lack of ram is
> the problem it would be helpful to have better diagnostic messages.

We have them.

[  199.658774] nouveau :04:00.0: systemd-logind[1352]: validate: -22
[  199.658902] nouveau :04:00.0: systemd-logind[1352]: fail set_domain
[  199.658905] nouveau :04:00.0: systemd-logind[1352]: validating bo list

This indicates a lack of ability to place all the buffers needed into vram/gart
as requested by the submitter.

The NVIDIA drivers will work much better for you if you're trying to make heavy
use of GL, like modern systems like to do.

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--- Comment #2 from Vasili Pupkin  ---
Ubuntu 16.04 works just fine with nvidia-304 drivers. If the lack of ram is the
problem it would be helpful to have better diagnostic messages.

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2019-09-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #1 from Ilia Mirkin  ---
Those messages imply you've run out of vram. Are you using something like gnome
or kde? Those won't work well on this hardware.

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[Nouveau] [Bug 111642] NV43 GeForce 6600 Nouveau is not stable on legacy hardware

2019-09-10 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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   Hardware|Other   |x86-64 (AMD64)

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