RE: [NoXMail] SpamManager Final now available

2003-02-13 Thread Bill Naber
Bravo to Brian and Scott!

-Bill Naber

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Milburn
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 6:00 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [NoXMail] SpamManager Final now available



Hi Bill,

I have worked out an arrangement with Scott to resell a "Declude test only"
version through his web site. We won't be offering it directly. It will be
and
unlimited use subscription for $395 annually. The fancy message handling
stuff
is disabled and it will simply return result codes to Declude. It will be
the
exact same version as the full one, but the license code will turn off
features not applicable in a Declude test environment.

Scott may possibly make an announcement on his web site or list regarding
this. I would check with him if you haven't heard anything by early next
week.

Brian

On 02/11/03 12:44pm you wrote...
>Brian,
>
>I have been following this list since day one, but did not participate the
>actual beta testing...mainly out of concern for costs being too high to
>continue using the product after it was out of its beta stage.  I have
>enjoyed listening to all the discussing, and it sounds like this is going
to
>be a great product.  But as it is, the pricing is indeed too high for us to
>justify making the purchase to add this as another test within Declude.
>
>We average ~40K-50K emails per day, with a large portion of those being
>spam.  Most Spam is caught with our Declude/Sniffer combo, but still some
do
>get through...especially adult emails.  I would love to implement Spam
>Manager as another test within Declude if you do establish Declude-specific
>pricing.  So I do hope you consider doing that.  I'll be keeping an ear
out.

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Re: [NoXMail] SpamManager Final now available

2003-02-12 Thread Bill B.
That is great!  That is exactly what we want.  Thanks Brian...I will be watching out 
for that version to be annouced by Scott.

Bill


-Original Message-
From: Brian Milburn
Sent: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 14:59:44 -0800
Subject: Re: [NoXMail] SpamManager Final now available



Hi Bill, 

I have worked out an arrangement with Scott to resell a "Declude test only"
version through his web site. We won't be offering it directly. It will be and
unlimited use subscription for $395 annually. The fancy message handling stuff
is disabled and it will simply return result codes to Declude. It will be the
exact same version as the full one, but the license code will turn off
features not applicable in a Declude test environment.

Scott may possibly make an announcement on his web site or list regarding
this. I would check with him if you haven't heard anything by early next week.

Brian
 
On 02/11/03 12:44pm you wrote...
>Brian,
>
>I have been following this list since day one, but did not participate the
>actual beta testing...mainly out of concern for costs being too high to
>continue using the product after it was out of its beta stage.  I have
>enjoyed listening to all the discussing, and it sounds like this is going to
>be a great product.  But as it is, the pricing is indeed too high for us to
>justify making the purchase to add this as another test within Declude.
>
>We average ~40K-50K emails per day, with a large portion of those being
>spam.  Most Spam is caught with our Declude/Sniffer combo, but still some do
>get through...especially adult emails.  I would love to implement Spam
>Manager as another test within Declude if you do establish Declude-specific
>pricing.  So I do hope you consider doing that.  I'll be keeping an ear out.

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RE: [NoXMail] SpamManager Final now available

2003-02-12 Thread John Tolmachoff
There is one. The archive has been known to take time to show up.

John Tolmachoff  MCSE, CSSA
IT Manager, Network Engineer
211 E. Imperial Hwy, Suite 106
Fullerton, CA  92835
562-694-4800, ext. 104
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.reliancesoft.com
 


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:NoX-List-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brian Milburn
> Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 4:38 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [NoXMail] SpamManager Final now available
> 
> 
> I know, there aren't any for NoxMail for today either. Guess it is time to
> look at the IMail logs.
> 
> On 2/12/2003 4:35pm you wrote...
> >Brian, I notice there are no replies in the archive either.
> >
> >John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA
> >IT Manager, Network Engineer
> >RelianceSoft, Inc.
> >Fullerton, CA  92835
> >www.reliancesoft.com
> >
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:NoX-List-
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brian Milburn
> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 4:32 PM
> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Subject: RE: [NoXMail] SpamManager Final now available
> >>
> >>
> >> No everything is set up correctly. I just checked again. Let me know if
> >you
> >> get this one.
> >>
> >> On 2/12/2003 4:28pm you wrote...
> >> >Brian, I concur with Bill.
> >> >
> >> >I have only seen one reply the list.
> >> >
> >> >Have you checked reply to list or reply to sender on the list setup?
> >> >
> >> >In fact, the only reply that I see is the one you sent direct to me
> >> >yesterday.
> >> >
> >> >Check the list settings and check reply to list.
> >> >
> >> >John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA
> >> >IT Manager, Network Engineer
> >> >RelianceSoft, Inc.
> >> >Fullerton, CA  92835
> >> >www.reliancesoft.com
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> -Original Message-
> >> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:NoX-List-
> >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bill Landry
> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 4:17 PM
> >> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >> Subject: Re: [NoXMail] SpamManager Final now available
> >> >>
> >> >> Awesome!  BTW, I subscribed to the new SpamManager list, and have
> >received
> >> >a
> >> >> few test messages, but when I replied to one of yours yesterday, it
> >never
> >> >> showed up on the list (at least I never got it).
> >> >>
> >> >> Bill
> >> >> - Original Message -
> >> >> From: "Brian Milburn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 2:59 PM
> >> >> Subject: Re: [NoXMail] SpamManager Final now available
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Hi Bill,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I have worked out an arrangement with Scott to resell a "Declude
test
> >> >> only"
> >> >> > version through his web site. We won't be offering it directly. It
> >will
> >> >be
> >> >> and
> >> >> > unlimited use subscription for $395 annually. The fancy message
> >handling
> >> >> stuff
> >> >> > is disabled and it will simply return result codes to Declude. It
> >will
> >> >be
> >> >> the
> >> >> > exact same version as the full one, but the license code will turn
> >off
> >> >> > features not applicable in a Declude test environment.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Scott may possibly make an announcement on his web site or list
> >> >regarding
> >> >> > this. I would check with him if you haven't heard anything by
early
> >next
> >> >> week.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Brian
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On 02/11/03 12:44pm you wrote...
> >> >> > >Brian,
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >I have been following this list since day one, but did not
> >participate
> >> >> the
> >> >> > >actual beta testing...mainly out of concern for costs being too
high
> >to
> >> >> > >co

RE: [NoXMail] SpamManager Final now available

2003-02-12 Thread Brian Milburn

I know, there aren't any for NoxMail for today either. Guess it is time to
look at the IMail logs.
 
On 2/12/2003 4:35pm you wrote...
>Brian, I notice there are no replies in the archive either.
>
>John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA
>IT Manager, Network Engineer
>RelianceSoft, Inc.
>Fullerton, CA  92835
>www.reliancesoft.com
>
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:NoX-List-
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brian Milburn
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 4:32 PM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: RE: [NoXMail] SpamManager Final now available
>> 
>> 
>> No everything is set up correctly. I just checked again. Let me know if
>you
>> get this one.
>> 
>> On 2/12/2003 4:28pm you wrote...
>> >Brian, I concur with Bill.
>> >
>> >I have only seen one reply the list.
>> >
>> >Have you checked reply to list or reply to sender on the list setup?
>> >
>> >In fact, the only reply that I see is the one you sent direct to me
>> >yesterday.
>> >
>> >Check the list settings and check reply to list.
>> >
>> >John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA
>> >IT Manager, Network Engineer
>> >RelianceSoft, Inc.
>> >Fullerton, CA  92835
>> >www.reliancesoft.com
>> >
>> >
>> >> -Original Message-
>> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:NoX-List-
>> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bill Landry
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 4:17 PM
>> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> Subject: Re: [NoXMail] SpamManager Final now available
>> >>
>> >> Awesome!  BTW, I subscribed to the new SpamManager list, and have
>received
>> >a
>> >> few test messages, but when I replied to one of yours yesterday, it
>never
>> >> showed up on the list (at least I never got it).
>> >>
>> >> Bill
>> >> - Original Message -
>> >> From: "Brian Milburn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 2:59 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [NoXMail] SpamManager Final now available
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > Hi Bill,
>> >> >
>> >> > I have worked out an arrangement with Scott to resell a "Declude test
>> >> only"
>> >> > version through his web site. We won't be offering it directly. It
>will
>> >be
>> >> and
>> >> > unlimited use subscription for $395 annually. The fancy message
>handling
>> >> stuff
>> >> > is disabled and it will simply return result codes to Declude. It
>will
>> >be
>> >> the
>> >> > exact same version as the full one, but the license code will turn
>off
>> >> > features not applicable in a Declude test environment.
>> >> >
>> >> > Scott may possibly make an announcement on his web site or list
>> >regarding
>> >> > this. I would check with him if you haven't heard anything by early
>next
>> >> week.
>> >> >
>> >> > Brian
>> >> >
>> >> > On 02/11/03 12:44pm you wrote...
>> >> > >Brian,
>> >> > >
>> >> > >I have been following this list since day one, but did not
>participate
>> >> the
>> >> > >actual beta testing...mainly out of concern for costs being too high
>to
>> >> > >continue using the product after it was out of its beta stage.  I
>have
>> >> > >enjoyed listening to all the discussing, and it sounds like this is
>> >going
>> >> to
>> >> > >be a great product.  But as it is, the pricing is indeed too high
>for
>> >us
>> >> to
>> >> > >justify making the purchase to add this as another test within
>Declude.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >We average ~40K-50K emails per day, with a large portion of those
>being
>> >> > >spam.  Most Spam is caught with our Declude/Sniffer combo, but still
>> >some
>> >> do
>> >> > >get through...especially adult emails.  I would love to implement
>Spam
>> >> > >Manager as another test within Declude if you do establish
>> >> Declude-specific
>> >> > >pricing.  So I do hope you consider doing that.  I'll be keeping an

RE: [NoXMail] SpamManager Final now available

2003-02-12 Thread John Tolmachoff
Brian, I notice there are no replies in the archive either.

John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA
IT Manager, Network Engineer
RelianceSoft, Inc.
Fullerton, CA  92835
www.reliancesoft.com


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:NoX-List-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brian Milburn
> Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 4:32 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [NoXMail] SpamManager Final now available
> 
> 
> No everything is set up correctly. I just checked again. Let me know if
you
> get this one.
> 
> On 2/12/2003 4:28pm you wrote...
> >Brian, I concur with Bill.
> >
> >I have only seen one reply the list.
> >
> >Have you checked reply to list or reply to sender on the list setup?
> >
> >In fact, the only reply that I see is the one you sent direct to me
> >yesterday.
> >
> >Check the list settings and check reply to list.
> >
> >John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA
> >IT Manager, Network Engineer
> >RelianceSoft, Inc.
> >Fullerton, CA  92835
> >www.reliancesoft.com
> >
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:NoX-List-
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bill Landry
> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 4:17 PM
> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Subject: Re: [NoXMail] SpamManager Final now available
> >>
> >> Awesome!  BTW, I subscribed to the new SpamManager list, and have
received
> >a
> >> few test messages, but when I replied to one of yours yesterday, it
never
> >> showed up on the list (at least I never got it).
> >>
> >> Bill
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "Brian Milburn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 2:59 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [NoXMail] SpamManager Final now available
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Hi Bill,
> >> >
> >> > I have worked out an arrangement with Scott to resell a "Declude test
> >> only"
> >> > version through his web site. We won't be offering it directly. It
will
> >be
> >> and
> >> > unlimited use subscription for $395 annually. The fancy message
handling
> >> stuff
> >> > is disabled and it will simply return result codes to Declude. It
will
> >be
> >> the
> >> > exact same version as the full one, but the license code will turn
off
> >> > features not applicable in a Declude test environment.
> >> >
> >> > Scott may possibly make an announcement on his web site or list
> >regarding
> >> > this. I would check with him if you haven't heard anything by early
next
> >> week.
> >> >
> >> > Brian
> >> >
> >> > On 02/11/03 12:44pm you wrote...
> >> > >Brian,
> >> > >
> >> > >I have been following this list since day one, but did not
participate
> >> the
> >> > >actual beta testing...mainly out of concern for costs being too high
to
> >> > >continue using the product after it was out of its beta stage.  I
have
> >> > >enjoyed listening to all the discussing, and it sounds like this is
> >going
> >> to
> >> > >be a great product.  But as it is, the pricing is indeed too high
for
> >us
> >> to
> >> > >justify making the purchase to add this as another test within
Declude.
> >> > >
> >> > >We average ~40K-50K emails per day, with a large portion of those
being
> >> > >spam.  Most Spam is caught with our Declude/Sniffer combo, but still
> >some
> >> do
> >> > >get through...especially adult emails.  I would love to implement
Spam
> >> > >Manager as another test within Declude if you do establish
> >> Declude-specific
> >> > >pricing.  So I do hope you consider doing that.  I'll be keeping an
ear
> >> out.
> >> >
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RE: [NoXMail] SpamManager Final now available

2003-02-12 Thread Brian Milburn

No everything is set up correctly. I just checked again. Let me know if you
get this one.
 
On 2/12/2003 4:28pm you wrote...
>Brian, I concur with Bill.
>
>I have only seen one reply the list.
>
>Have you checked reply to list or reply to sender on the list setup?
>
>In fact, the only reply that I see is the one you sent direct to me
>yesterday.
>
>Check the list settings and check reply to list.
>
>John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA
>IT Manager, Network Engineer
>RelianceSoft, Inc.
>Fullerton, CA  92835
>www.reliancesoft.com
>
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:NoX-List-
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bill Landry
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 4:17 PM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Re: [NoXMail] SpamManager Final now available
>> 
>> Awesome!  BTW, I subscribed to the new SpamManager list, and have received
>a
>> few test messages, but when I replied to one of yours yesterday, it never
>> showed up on the list (at least I never got it).
>> 
>> Bill
>> - Original Message -----
>> From: "Brian Milburn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 2:59 PM
>> Subject: Re: [NoXMail] SpamManager Final now available
>> 
>> 
>> >
>> > Hi Bill,
>> >
>> > I have worked out an arrangement with Scott to resell a "Declude test
>> only"
>> > version through his web site. We won't be offering it directly. It will
>be
>> and
>> > unlimited use subscription for $395 annually. The fancy message handling
>> stuff
>> > is disabled and it will simply return result codes to Declude. It will
>be
>> the
>> > exact same version as the full one, but the license code will turn off
>> > features not applicable in a Declude test environment.
>> >
>> > Scott may possibly make an announcement on his web site or list
>regarding
>> > this. I would check with him if you haven't heard anything by early next
>> week.
>> >
>> > Brian
>> >
>> > On 02/11/03 12:44pm you wrote...
>> > >Brian,
>> > >
>> > >I have been following this list since day one, but did not participate
>> the
>> > >actual beta testing...mainly out of concern for costs being too high to
>> > >continue using the product after it was out of its beta stage.  I have
>> > >enjoyed listening to all the discussing, and it sounds like this is
>going
>> to
>> > >be a great product.  But as it is, the pricing is indeed too high for
>us
>> to
>> > >justify making the purchase to add this as another test within Declude.
>> > >
>> > >We average ~40K-50K emails per day, with a large portion of those being
>> > >spam.  Most Spam is caught with our Declude/Sniffer combo, but still
>some
>> do
>> > >get through...especially adult emails.  I would love to implement Spam
>> > >Manager as another test within Declude if you do establish
>> Declude-specific
>> > >pricing.  So I do hope you consider doing that.  I'll be keeping an ear
>> out.
>> >
>> > ---
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>> >
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RE: [NoXMail] SpamManager Final now available

2003-02-12 Thread John Tolmachoff
Brian, check the reply to settings on the list settins.

Under the advanced tab, check "Reply-To list (vs. sender)"

John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA
IT Manager, Network Engineer
RelianceSoft, Inc.
Fullerton, CA  92835
www.reliancesoft.com


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:NoX-List-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brian Milburn
> Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 4:24 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [NoXMail] SpamManager Final now available
> 
> 
> I don't know, something's up there somewhere. I had a lot of problems
getting
> this to work. Our other lists all work fine.  When I set it up at first,
IMail
> did not automatically create the owner aliases that it normally does.
Maybe
> I'll just delete it and do it again.
> 
> On 2/12/2003 4:17pm you wrote...
> >Awesome!  BTW, I subscribed to the new SpamManager list, and have
received a
> >few test messages, but when I replied to one of yours yesterday, it never
> >showed up on the list (at least I never got it).
> >
> >Bill
> >- Original Message -
> >From: "Brian Milburn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 2:59 PM
> >Subject: Re: [NoXMail] SpamManager Final now available
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Hi Bill,
> >>
> >> I have worked out an arrangement with Scott to resell a "Declude test
> >only"
> >> version through his web site. We won't be offering it directly. It will
be
> >and
> >> unlimited use subscription for $395 annually. The fancy message
handling
> >stuff
> >> is disabled and it will simply return result codes to Declude. It will
be
> >the
> >> exact same version as the full one, but the license code will turn off
> >> features not applicable in a Declude test environment.
> >>
> >> Scott may possibly make an announcement on his web site or list
regarding
> >> this. I would check with him if you haven't heard anything by early
next
> >week.
> >>
> >> Brian
> >>
> >> On 02/11/03 12:44pm you wrote...
> >> >Brian,
> >> >
> >> >I have been following this list since day one, but did not participate
> >the
> >> >actual beta testing...mainly out of concern for costs being too high
to
> >> >continue using the product after it was out of its beta stage.  I have
> >> >enjoyed listening to all the discussing, and it sounds like this is
going
> >to
> >> >be a great product.  But as it is, the pricing is indeed too high for
us
> >to
> >> >justify making the purchase to add this as another test within
Declude.
> >> >
> >> >We average ~40K-50K emails per day, with a large portion of those
being
> >> >spam.  Most Spam is caught with our Declude/Sniffer combo, but still
some
> >do
> >> >get through...especially adult emails.  I would love to implement Spam
> >> >Manager as another test within Declude if you do establish
> >Declude-specific
> >> >pricing.  So I do hope you consider doing that.  I'll be keeping an
ear
> >out.
> >>
> >> ---
> >> [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Solid Oak Software]
> >>
> >>
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RE: [NoXMail] SpamManager Final now available

2003-02-12 Thread John Tolmachoff
Brian, I concur with Bill.

I have only seen one reply the list.

Have you checked reply to list or reply to sender on the list setup?

In fact, the only reply that I see is the one you sent direct to me
yesterday.

Check the list settings and check reply to list.

John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA
IT Manager, Network Engineer
RelianceSoft, Inc.
Fullerton, CA  92835
www.reliancesoft.com


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:NoX-List-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bill Landry
> Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 4:17 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [NoXMail] SpamManager Final now available
> 
> Awesome!  BTW, I subscribed to the new SpamManager list, and have received
a
> few test messages, but when I replied to one of yours yesterday, it never
> showed up on the list (at least I never got it).
> 
> Bill
> - Original Message -
> From: "Brian Milburn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 2:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [NoXMail] SpamManager Final now available
> 
> 
> >
> > Hi Bill,
> >
> > I have worked out an arrangement with Scott to resell a "Declude test
> only"
> > version through his web site. We won't be offering it directly. It will
be
> and
> > unlimited use subscription for $395 annually. The fancy message handling
> stuff
> > is disabled and it will simply return result codes to Declude. It will
be
> the
> > exact same version as the full one, but the license code will turn off
> > features not applicable in a Declude test environment.
> >
> > Scott may possibly make an announcement on his web site or list
regarding
> > this. I would check with him if you haven't heard anything by early next
> week.
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > On 02/11/03 12:44pm you wrote...
> > >Brian,
> > >
> > >I have been following this list since day one, but did not participate
> the
> > >actual beta testing...mainly out of concern for costs being too high to
> > >continue using the product after it was out of its beta stage.  I have
> > >enjoyed listening to all the discussing, and it sounds like this is
going
> to
> > >be a great product.  But as it is, the pricing is indeed too high for
us
> to
> > >justify making the purchase to add this as another test within Declude.
> > >
> > >We average ~40K-50K emails per day, with a large portion of those being
> > >spam.  Most Spam is caught with our Declude/Sniffer combo, but still
some
> do
> > >get through...especially adult emails.  I would love to implement Spam
> > >Manager as another test within Declude if you do establish
> Declude-specific
> > >pricing.  So I do hope you consider doing that.  I'll be keeping an ear
> out.
> >
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Re: [NoXMail] SpamManager Final now available

2003-02-12 Thread Brian Milburn

I don't know, something's up there somewhere. I had a lot of problems getting
this to work. Our other lists all work fine.  When I set it up at first, IMail
did not automatically create the owner aliases that it normally does. Maybe
I'll just delete it and do it again.
 
On 2/12/2003 4:17pm you wrote...
>Awesome!  BTW, I subscribed to the new SpamManager list, and have received a
>few test messages, but when I replied to one of yours yesterday, it never
>showed up on the list (at least I never got it).
>
>Bill
>- Original Message -
>From: "Brian Milburn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 2:59 PM
>Subject: Re: [NoXMail] SpamManager Final now available
>
>
>>
>> Hi Bill,
>>
>> I have worked out an arrangement with Scott to resell a "Declude test
>only"
>> version through his web site. We won't be offering it directly. It will be
>and
>> unlimited use subscription for $395 annually. The fancy message handling
>stuff
>> is disabled and it will simply return result codes to Declude. It will be
>the
>> exact same version as the full one, but the license code will turn off
>> features not applicable in a Declude test environment.
>>
>> Scott may possibly make an announcement on his web site or list regarding
>> this. I would check with him if you haven't heard anything by early next
>week.
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> On 02/11/03 12:44pm you wrote...
>> >Brian,
>> >
>> >I have been following this list since day one, but did not participate
>the
>> >actual beta testing...mainly out of concern for costs being too high to
>> >continue using the product after it was out of its beta stage.  I have
>> >enjoyed listening to all the discussing, and it sounds like this is going
>to
>> >be a great product.  But as it is, the pricing is indeed too high for us
>to
>> >justify making the purchase to add this as another test within Declude.
>> >
>> >We average ~40K-50K emails per day, with a large portion of those being
>> >spam.  Most Spam is caught with our Declude/Sniffer combo, but still some
>do
>> >get through...especially adult emails.  I would love to implement Spam
>> >Manager as another test within Declude if you do establish
>Declude-specific
>> >pricing.  So I do hope you consider doing that.  I'll be keeping an ear
>out.
>>
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Re: [NoXMail] SpamManager Final now available

2003-02-12 Thread Bill Landry
Awesome!  BTW, I subscribed to the new SpamManager list, and have received a
few test messages, but when I replied to one of yours yesterday, it never
showed up on the list (at least I never got it).

Bill
- Original Message -
From: "Brian Milburn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: [NoXMail] SpamManager Final now available


>
> Hi Bill,
>
> I have worked out an arrangement with Scott to resell a "Declude test
only"
> version through his web site. We won't be offering it directly. It will be
and
> unlimited use subscription for $395 annually. The fancy message handling
stuff
> is disabled and it will simply return result codes to Declude. It will be
the
> exact same version as the full one, but the license code will turn off
> features not applicable in a Declude test environment.
>
> Scott may possibly make an announcement on his web site or list regarding
> this. I would check with him if you haven't heard anything by early next
week.
>
> Brian
>
> On 02/11/03 12:44pm you wrote...
> >Brian,
> >
> >I have been following this list since day one, but did not participate
the
> >actual beta testing...mainly out of concern for costs being too high to
> >continue using the product after it was out of its beta stage.  I have
> >enjoyed listening to all the discussing, and it sounds like this is going
to
> >be a great product.  But as it is, the pricing is indeed too high for us
to
> >justify making the purchase to add this as another test within Declude.
> >
> >We average ~40K-50K emails per day, with a large portion of those being
> >spam.  Most Spam is caught with our Declude/Sniffer combo, but still some
do
> >get through...especially adult emails.  I would love to implement Spam
> >Manager as another test within Declude if you do establish
Declude-specific
> >pricing.  So I do hope you consider doing that.  I'll be keeping an ear
out.
>
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Re: [NoXMail] SpamManager Final now available

2003-02-12 Thread Brian Milburn

Hi Bill, 

I have worked out an arrangement with Scott to resell a "Declude test only"
version through his web site. We won't be offering it directly. It will be and
unlimited use subscription for $395 annually. The fancy message handling stuff
is disabled and it will simply return result codes to Declude. It will be the
exact same version as the full one, but the license code will turn off
features not applicable in a Declude test environment.

Scott may possibly make an announcement on his web site or list regarding
this. I would check with him if you haven't heard anything by early next week.

Brian
 
On 02/11/03 12:44pm you wrote...
>Brian,
>
>I have been following this list since day one, but did not participate the
>actual beta testing...mainly out of concern for costs being too high to
>continue using the product after it was out of its beta stage.  I have
>enjoyed listening to all the discussing, and it sounds like this is going to
>be a great product.  But as it is, the pricing is indeed too high for us to
>justify making the purchase to add this as another test within Declude.
>
>We average ~40K-50K emails per day, with a large portion of those being
>spam.  Most Spam is caught with our Declude/Sniffer combo, but still some do
>get through...especially adult emails.  I would love to implement Spam
>Manager as another test within Declude if you do establish Declude-specific
>pricing.  So I do hope you consider doing that.  I'll be keeping an ear out.

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RE: [NoXMail] SpamManager Final now available

2003-02-12 Thread Bill Naber
Downloaded & installed the final yesterday and all looks good from here.
Thanks a bunch!

Signing off,
-Bill Naber

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Milburn
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 6:50 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [NoXMail] SpamManager Final now available



Hi everyone!

First, my sincere thanks to everyone who helped with the beta testing. Your
input really helped to bring things together.

We posted the final version (for now) today at
http://www.spammanager.com/imail/

Complete documentation is also now available.

Press releases go out at 8am eastern time tomorrow.

This list will be shut down shortly but a new one is up. To join the new
list,
please send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Also, the new address for off list support is [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Finally :-) there will be more people than just me answering questions!
Three
of our techs spent the weekend reading the docs and I will be training them
this week. I will be monitoring all messages coming in and for now I will
probably be answering most of the questions as well until the others get up
to
speed.

It looks like the next thing to go into beta will be the SMTP relay/gateway
for both Windows and Linux. The gateway portion is complete and it is just a
matter of plugging in the SpamManager functions. So if anyone is interested
in
that, be sure to let me know.

Thanks again and we'll see you on the new list!

-Brian

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RE: [NoXMail] SpamManager Final now available

2003-02-11 Thread Brian Milburn

Thanks John, you especially have been a great help. I will now go correct my
errors you so kindly pointed out ;-)
 
On 02/11/03 7:32am you wrote...
>Brian, it has been a pleasure helping to Beta test this product and I wish
>you and your company the best of fortune in marketing it.
>
>John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA
>IT Manager, Network Engineer
>RelianceSoft, Inc.
>Fullerton, CA  92835
>www.reliancesoft.com
>
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:NoX-List-
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brian Milburn
>> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 3:50 PM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: [NoXMail] SpamManager Final now available
>> 
>> 
>> Hi everyone!
>> 
>> First, my sincere thanks to everyone who helped with the beta testing.
>Your
>> input really helped to bring things together.
>> 
>> We posted the final version (for now) today at
>> http://www.spammanager.com/imail/
>> 
>> Complete documentation is also now available.
>> 
>> Press releases go out at 8am eastern time tomorrow.
>> 
>> This list will be shut down shortly but a new one is up. To join the new
>list,
>> please send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> 
>> Also, the new address for off list support is [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>ions!
>Three
>> of our techs spent the weekend reading the docs and I will be training
>them
>> this week. I will be monitoring all messages coming in and for now I will
>> probably be answering most of the questions as well until the others get
>up to
>> speed.
>> 
>> It looks like the next thing to go into beta will be the SMTP
>relay/gateway
>> for both Windows and Linux. The gateway portion is complete and it is just
>a
>> matter of plugging in the SpamManager functions. So if anyone is
>interested in
>> that, be sure to let me know.
>> 
>> Thanks again and we'll see you on the new list!
>> 
>> -Brian
>> 
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Re: [NoXMail] SpamManager Final now available

2003-02-11 Thread Bill B.
Brian,

I have been following this list since day one, but did not participate the actual beta 
testing...mainly out of concern for costs being too high to continue using the product 
after it was out of its beta stage.  I have enjoyed listening to all the discussing, 
and it sounds like this is going to be a great product.  But as it is, the pricing is 
indeed too high for us to justify making the purchase to add this as another test 
within Declude.

We average ~40K-50K emails per day, with a large portion of those being spam.  Most 
Spam is caught with our Declude/Sniffer combo, but still some do get 
through...especially adult emails.  I would love to implement Spam Manager as another 
test within Declude if you do establish Declude-specific pricing.  So I do hope you 
consider doing that.  I'll be keeping an ear out.

Thanks,
Bill


-Original Message-
From: Brian Milburn
Sent: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:49:58 -0800
Subject: [NoXMail] SpamManager Final now available


 
Hi everyone!

First, my sincere thanks to everyone who helped with the beta testing. Your
input really helped to bring things together.

We posted the final version (for now) today at
http://www.spammanager.com/imail/

Complete documentation is also now available.

Press releases go out at 8am eastern time tomorrow.

This list will be shut down shortly but a new one is up. To join the new list,
please send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Also, the new address for off list support is [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Finally :-) there will be more people than just me answering questions! Three
of our techs spent the weekend reading the docs and I will be training them
this week. I will be monitoring all messages coming in and for now I will
probably be answering most of the questions as well until the others get up to
speed.

It looks like the next thing to go into beta will be the SMTP relay/gateway
for both Windows and Linux. The gateway portion is complete and it is just a
matter of plugging in the SpamManager functions. So if anyone is interested in
that, be sure to let me know.

Thanks again and we'll see you on the new list!

-Brian

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RE: [NoXMail] SpamManager Final now available

2003-02-11 Thread John Tolmachoff
Brian, it has been a pleasure helping to Beta test this product and I wish
you and your company the best of fortune in marketing it.

John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA
IT Manager, Network Engineer
RelianceSoft, Inc.
Fullerton, CA  92835
www.reliancesoft.com


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:NoX-List-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brian Milburn
> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 3:50 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [NoXMail] SpamManager Final now available
> 
> 
> Hi everyone!
> 
> First, my sincere thanks to everyone who helped with the beta testing.
Your
> input really helped to bring things together.
> 
> We posted the final version (for now) today at
> http://www.spammanager.com/imail/
> 
> Complete documentation is also now available.
> 
> Press releases go out at 8am eastern time tomorrow.
> 
> This list will be shut down shortly but a new one is up. To join the new
list,
> please send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Also, the new address for off list support is [EMAIL PROTECTED] ions!
Three
> of our techs spent the weekend reading the docs and I will be training
them
> this week. I will be monitoring all messages coming in and for now I will
> probably be answering most of the questions as well until the others get
up to
> speed.
> 
> It looks like the next thing to go into beta will be the SMTP
relay/gateway
> for both Windows and Linux. The gateway portion is complete and it is just
a
> matter of plugging in the SpamManager functions. So if anyone is
interested in
> that, be sure to let me know.
> 
> Thanks again and we'll see you on the new list!
> 
> -Brian
> 
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Re: [NoXMail] SpamManager Final now available

2003-02-10 Thread Brian Milburn

Hi Bill,
 
On 02/10/03 6:27pm you wrote...
>Thanks, Brian, for the excellent product support you have provided
>throughout this beta cycle, I think you have done a great job!

Thanks, actually I have enjoyed this more than most beta tests! Usually we are
working with real computer novices.

>Pricing question before you drop this list.  I was looking at the pricing on
>the SpamManager site and was wondering if you would be providing a lite
>version for people who use SM as just another test within Declude?  Or is
>this what you are referring to when you talk about beta testing the "SMTP
>relay/gateway"?

Declude versions have been a real difficult thing to figure out. I have the
capability of producing a version with a lot of management capabilities
disabled. The problem for us is how to sell it. If we offer it on our web
site, we will create a lot of confusion. We already have 2 other versions for
small shareware mail servers and we can't sell those either. We used these to
work out the procedures for porting to other server platforms, and shareware
guys are usually more than happy to work with us.

I'll need to ask Scott about this, but what we might be able to do is see if
we can work a deal with Scott to be the exclusive reseller of the Declude
version. That way we can offer something with unlimited use, at a reasonable
price and not have to justify this to other customers who may use IMail alone
or some other mail server.

>I would be interested in beta testing both the Windows and Linux versions of
>the "SMTP relay/gateway" when they are available.

Sure, actually the gateway version is full MTA. It can be used as a store and
forward or a relay server. I am going to make it work with Declude Virus (at
least the Windows version) so we can offer a gateway filter for incoming email
for all kinds of platforms. I'll let you know when we start testing. Probably
in a month or less. I am going to take a few days off here in March, so maybe
right after that. We go to Yosemite every year in early March. 

-Brian

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Re: [NoXMail] SpamManager Final now available

2003-02-10 Thread Bill Landry
Thanks, Brian, for the excellent product support you have provided
throughout this beta cycle, I think you have done a great job!

Pricing question before you drop this list.  I was looking at the pricing on
the SpamManager site and was wondering if you would be providing a lite
version for people who use SM as just another test within Declude?  Or is
this what you are referring to when you talk about beta testing the "SMTP
relay/gateway"?

I would be interested in beta testing both the Windows and Linux versions of
the "SMTP relay/gateway" when they are available.

Best regards,

Bill

- Original Message -
From: "Brian Milburn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 3:49 PM
Subject: [NoXMail] SpamManager Final now available


>
> Hi everyone!
>
> First, my sincere thanks to everyone who helped with the beta testing.
Your
> input really helped to bring things together.
>
> We posted the final version (for now) today at
> http://www.spammanager.com/imail/
>
> Complete documentation is also now available.
>
> Press releases go out at 8am eastern time tomorrow.
>
> This list will be shut down shortly but a new one is up. To join the new
list,
> please send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Also, the new address for off list support is [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
> Finally :-) there will be more people than just me answering questions!
Three
> of our techs spent the weekend reading the docs and I will be training
them
> this week. I will be monitoring all messages coming in and for now I will
> probably be answering most of the questions as well until the others get
up to
> speed.
>
> It looks like the next thing to go into beta will be the SMTP
relay/gateway
> for both Windows and Linux. The gateway portion is complete and it is just
a
> matter of plugging in the SpamManager functions. So if anyone is
interested in
> that, be sure to let me know.
>
> Thanks again and we'll see you on the new list!
>
> -Brian
>
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