[NSP] Re: Loud Drones

2007-11-10 Thread Mike and Enid Walton


Does nobody have any suggestions for this problem ?  I was eagerly awaiting a 
flurry of responses as I also have the same problem.  I tried putting wool in 
the drones, only distorted the sound I'm afraid.

Mike Walton
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[NSP] Re: Loud Drones

2007-11-10 Thread Colin
The only thing I could suggest (apart from the cotton wool or foam rubber
inside the drone shaft which you have tried) would be some sort of foam on
the outside where the hole is (the sort of stuff they put on microphones to
cut down the wind noise) . I have no inner knowledge, just an
off-the-top-of-the-head suggestion.
There's not much I can think of other than, maybe, opening the reeds a
little (so they don't vibrate as easily)  than to fit new reeds and see if
the same problem occurs.
Two thoughts come to mind which both yourself and the original poster may
like to answer.
Have they always been loud? (ie are these new/refurbished pipes or have you
recently done anything to them or have they just suddenly gone funny on
you).
Are you in a position to know if the pipes are well made/well reeded or not
(to exclude a problem in their making)?
Please don't take offence at that last one but I don't know you or how long
you have been playing.
It may help the experts if you could give some more details my drone are
too loud could be read as my chanter reed is too quiet which is a
different kettle of fish.
It may be that those with an answer just need more information. It could, at
the moment, be anything from technique to badly set/made reeds (not all
pipes/reeds play at the same pressure, of course) or even that the chanter
and the drones are from different instruments and just not balanced well.
Reeds are difficult (for most of us) to get right. I have certainly made
reeds that sounded like foghorns and ones that  hardly gave a sound even
when the veins on your neck were sticking out (yes, I have given up now,
Colin R made and set mine some years back and they are still fine).
I would certainly try replacing at least one reed with a known, good one
just to try and also make sure the bore is oiled (often forgotten) -
certainly if they used to be ok.
I'm sure if you tell us a bit more, people like JS and Colin R will be able
to help.
That's the limit of my guesswork, sorry.
It may prompt others (who see the errors in what I have written) to post,
anyway.
Colin Hill

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 Does nobody have any suggestions for this problem ?  I was eagerly
awaiting a flurry of responses as I also have the same problem.  I tried
putting wool in the drones, only distorted the sound I'm afraid.

 Mike Walton
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[NSP] Re: Loud Drones

2007-11-10 Thread Francis Wood

Hello Mike,

The use of cord of various types in the bore is an old woodwind  
technique which has the primary effect of lowering the pitch but is  
also effective in quietening the instrument to some degree. However,  
permeable material really needs to be used wet, and in a dry blown  
instrument is likely to 'distort the sound' just as you described.


I'd suggest using lengths of thin wire, diameter to be decided by  
experimentation  and whatever is available. If you are fortunate this  
may reduce the volume sufficiently without needing significant  
alteration to the sounding pitch of the reeds.


Composite reeds can often sound loud in comparison with the cane  
equivalents, perhaps because they are designed to do so. The use of  
all-cane reeds might solve the difficulty, but a bit of wire is  
probably the fastest, cheapest and simplest solution.


Francis



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