[NSP] Re: Happy Hours

2009-06-12 Thread Julia Say
On 11 Jun 2009, Ian Lawther wrote: 

 Happy Hours was Emile Vacher a French accordionist and appears in Matt
 Seattle's Yelllow Northumbrian PIpers Pocket Book.

I believe that the fact it was available there was a contributory 
factor in its omission in the Billy Pigg book. 

At the time the BP book was written I was heavily guided by both 
Adrian  Colin since I knew little of Billy except the Border 
Minstrel LP.
The book should really be AD Schofield (who did the research  
transcriptions), and C. Ross (who played with Billy  got him to 
write some tunes out, and had recordings), compiled J. Say (because I 
seem to have that facility), but Colin wouldn't agree to that.

The new edition (anyone wanting the full biographical one should 
order now - there are less than 20 left - ) will contain more of 
Billy's repertoire, but only very basic biog. etc, and will be 
tunebook shaped. The stuff about his style will be reduced to a 
minimum, and rewritten, since some of it - if not wrong -  is a bit 
misleading and needs different emphasis.

I think we've all learnt a lot in 12 years.

Cheers
Julia



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[NSP] Re: Happy Hours

2009-06-12 Thread Richard York
I rather assumed that the extra extra embellishment was a sort of in 
joke, affectionately smiling at Billy Pigg's enthusiasm for such 
embellishments and just overdoing it enough for the grin. Andy M only 
does that once - most tasteful!

Mr. May, sir, - if you read this list - was that the intention?
Richard.

Dally, John wrote:

  .Happy Hours, which Andy writes he picked up from the
   playing of Billy Pigg.  Andy slips a very Piggish embellishment in the
   second and third times through the tune, which some might consider
   improper NSP technique.  It works for me. .


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[NSP] The timing description of str 6 of AtNILwJ

2009-06-12 Thread Richard Hensold
   Hi

   I sent this yesterday but apparently only some people got it (the email
   that is), so I'm sending it again, with some additional comments.

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   For any of you who care to help me with my little experiment in
   directed listening, here is the description of how I was trying to
   emphasize the beat in strain 6 of the clip of All the Night I Lay with
   Jockey, the link of which was supplied in my previous email.
   In some of the beats containing the Bdgd arpeggio (mainly in the 2nd
   and 3rd groups of arpeggios), I play the first note very slightly late
   and rush the next 3, leaving a small space at the end of the beat.  The
   first and 4th groups of arpeggios are done a bit straighter.  The first
   note is played late in part for accent, in part to keep the section
   from rushing, and in part to get the articulation to click with the
   grace note played by the backing Scottish smallpipe, played by Laura
   MacKenzie.  I shouldn't make a big deal about the lateness of the
   B. It's slight enough that I had to listen to it several times to make
   sure it was really there.  The important point is the space at the end
   of the beat.
   If this sounds like what you heard, please email me back and tell me
   you're in group A.  If not, please listen again to the clip and see if
   you can hear this timing subtlety now, now that you know what to look
   for.  If you do, please email me back and tell me you're in group B.
   If this still sounds like complete gibberish, please email me back and
   tell me you're in group C.
   So group B is people who heard something in the timing the second time
   that they didn't hear the first time, as a result of being told what to
   look for.  Group A didn't need the explanation to hear the timing, and
   the explanation made no difference to what group C heard.
   The clip is from the CD Piper's Crow, track 10
   I'm not advocating this as an approved interpretation, just using it as
   an example of what I'm talking about when I refer to rhythmic
   subtleties.  They are probably not the same sorts of subtleties that
   AR was talking about in his post which started this discussion, but
   once you are able to hear this sort of thing, you can do it in many
   different contexts.
   I also want to clarify that I wouldn't expect ear-learners to relate to
   this way of approaching music; for them everything tends to be a bit
   more intuitive, so they would think this whole thing to be a bit of a
   waste of time.  A person with a good ear can copy rhythmic subtleties
   without actually thinking about what's going on.  I wish I were so
   talented!
   Thanks!

 Dick HensoldSt. Paul, MN
 651/646-6581

Traditional Folk Music, Early Music, and Cambodian Music

Northumbrian smallpipes, recorder,

  Medieval greatpipes,Swedish sackpipa,  beyaw.

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