[NSP] Re: Whinshields thingummy

2009-09-18 Thread Francis Wood


On 18 Sep 2009, at 14:51, gibbonssoi...@aol.com wrote:


  It's a hornpipe, because J.L. Dunk said it was, and he wrote it;



Well, not quite . . .

The mysterious Mr. Dunk presented the tune to the NPS in 1929 with the  
title 'Whin Shields on the Wall'. As it stands in the manuscript owned  
by the Society, it is virtually unplayable. The tune is acknowledged  
by Gilbert Askew, editor of the first edn. of the Tunebook, 1936 in  
his introduction:


'The editor also wishes to thank his friend, Mr. John L. Dunk for the  
Whinshield's Hornpipe and The Lass o' Falstone, two very  
successful essays in what may be termed the Northumbrian mode, by the  
author ofHyperacoustics, Tonality - its Rational Basis and  
Elementary Development,  and other works dealing with the philosophic  
aspect of music.'
Fortunately, the tune was re-worked (and re-titled) before publication  
very successfully indeed, perhaps by Gilbert Askew himself.


There's an abc of the original tune below. It's fairly mad but you can  
hear the basis of the tune that has become familiar as Whinshields.  
The nature of the original however leaves little doubt about whether  
JLD knew the difference between a rant, a hornpipe or indeed the back  
end of an elephant.


Francis

The abc:

X:NPS Collection
T:Whin Shields on the Wall
C:John L. Dunk
Q:1/4=100
M:2/4
L:1/16
K:G
z6 d2 |B2G2 G2B2 |A2D2 D2D2 |G2G2 GABc |d3B d2g2 |e2c2 c2e2 |d2G2 G2AB  
|c2E2 E2FG |ABcd e2fg |
decB ABGF |G3E G2B2 |e2B2 B2e2 |d3A d2e2 |a2e2 e2f2 |g3e g2f2 |e2d2  
c2B2 |A2d2 d2fd |A2d2 e2fg |
a3g gfed |B2G2 GABG |A2D2 D2EF |G2G2 GABc |d6 g2 |e2c2 c2de |d2G2 G2AB  
|c2B2 A2G2 |dedB GAGE |

c3F Fd2G-|G3E G4 |]





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[NSP] [NSP]website

2009-09-18 Thread Dave Shaw
   Hi all



   I was sent the following link to a website in Japanese.



   [1]http://blog.arukikata.co.jp/tokuhain/glasgow/2009/09/post_76.html



   I know it will interest a few of you so I'm passing it on.

   My translation machinery did a fair job on it.



   Cheers,



   Dave



   [2]Dave Shaw, Northumbrian and Scottish Smallpipes, Irish Pipes and
   SHAW Whistles
   www.daveshaw.co.uk





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References

   1. http://blog.arukikata.co.jp/tokuhain/glasgow/2009/09/post_76.html
   2. 
http://www.daveshaw.co.ukhttp//blog.arukikata.co.jp/tokuhain/glasgow/2009/09/post_76.html


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[NSP] Re: Whinshields thingummy

2009-09-18 Thread Anthony Robb

   Might be of interest -
   [1]http://www.asaplive.com/FARNE/Learn.cfm?ccs=229cs=935
   Anthony
   --- On Fri, 18/9/09, Francis Wood oatenp...@googlemail.com wrote:

 From: Francis Wood oatenp...@googlemail.com
 Subject: [NSP] Re: Whinshields thingummy
 To: gibbonssoi...@aol.com
 Cc: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu
 Date: Friday, 18 September, 2009, 3:58 PM

   On 18 Sep 2009, at 14:51, [2]gibbonssoi...@aol.com wrote:
  It's a hornpipe, because J.L. Dunk said it was, and he wrote it;
   Well, not quite . . .
   The mysterious Mr. Dunk presented the tune to the NPS in 1929 with the
   title 'Whin Shields on the Wall'. As it stands in the manuscript owned
   by the Society, it is virtually unplayable. The tune is acknowledged by
   Gilbert Askew, editor of the first edn. of the Tunebook, 1936 in his
   introduction:
   'The editor also wishes to thank his friend, Mr. John L. Dunk for the
   Whinshield's Hornpipe and The Lass o' Falstone, two very successful
   essays in what may be termed the Northumbrian mode, by the author
   ofHyperacoustics, Tonality - its Rational Basis and Elementary
   Development,  and other works dealing with the philosophic aspect of
   music.'
   Fortunately, the tune was re-worked (and re-titled) before publication
   very successfully indeed, perhaps by Gilbert Askew himself.
   There's an abc of the original tune below. It's fairly mad but you can
   hear the basis of the tune that has become familiar as Whinshields. The
   nature of the original however leaves little doubt about whether JLD
   knew the difference between a rant, a hornpipe or indeed the back end
   of an elephant.
   Francis
   The abc:
   X:NPS Collection
   T:Whin Shields on the Wall
   C:John L. Dunk
   Q:1/4=100
   M:2/4
   L:1/16
   K:G
   z6 d2 |B2G2 G2B2 |A2D2 D2D2 |G2G2 GABc |d3B d2g2 |e2c2 c2e2 |d2G2 G2AB
   |c2E2 E2FG |ABcd e2fg |
   decB ABGF |G3E G2B2 |e2B2 B2e2 |d3A d2e2 |a2e2 e2f2 |g3e g2f2 |e2d2
   c2B2 |A2d2 d2fd |A2d2 e2fg |
   a3g gfed |B2G2 GABG |A2D2 D2EF |G2G2 GABc |d6 g2 |e2c2 c2de |d2G2 G2AB
   |c2B2 A2G2 |dedB GAGE |
   c3F Fd2G-|G3E G4 |]
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   2. http://uk.mc12.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=gibbonssoi...@aol.com
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[NSP] Re: [NSP]website

2009-09-18 Thread GibbonsSoinne
   Makes more sense than 'Hyperacoustics', anyway

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[NSP] Re: curious pipes on ebay

2009-09-18 Thread tim rolls BT

Is there no end to Colin's talents :-)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Ross-Electronic-Bagpipes_

These are in Ontario, Canada
Tim
- Original Message - 
From: Dally, John john.da...@hmhpub.com

To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 5:27 PM
Subject: [NSP] curious Burleigh pipes on ebay


There is a curious set of Burleigh pipes on ebay.  It's not so curious to 
see Burleigh pipes on ebay, but it's very curious to see a set of Burleigh 
pipes anywhere that have been fettled by Colin Ross.  Or, at least, that's 
the impression I've gotten watching the scene from afar.  I'd gotten the 
impression that Colin wouldn't go near a set of Burleigh pipes.  Of course, 
if Colin did fettle these pipes they would be more valuable than if he 
hadn't.  Anyone know anything about them?  They're in Fife.




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[NSP] Re: Whinshields thingummy

2009-09-18 Thread Dru Brooke-Taylor
We might be being unfair to Mr Dunk. It's possible he couldn't read and 
write music properly, tried to set down the notes but didn't know how 
to annotate rhythm and knew what he thought his tune ought to sound 
like when he played it.


His whistling and humming party trick sounds like an attempt to add 
drones to ordinary whistling.


Dru


On 18 Sep 2009, at 15:58, Francis Wood wrote:




On 18 Sep 2009, at 14:51, gibbonssoi...@aol.com wrote:


  It's a hornpipe, because J.L. Dunk said it was, and he wrote it;



Well, not quite . . .

The mysterious Mr. Dunk presented the tune to the NPS in 1929 with the 
title 'Whin Shields on the Wall'. As it stands in the manuscript owned 
by the Society, it is virtually unplayable. The tune is acknowledged 
by Gilbert Askew, editor of the first edn. of the Tunebook, 1936 in 
his introduction:


'The editor also wishes to thank his friend, Mr. John L. Dunk for the 
Whinshield's Hornpipe and The Lass o' Falstone, two very 
successful essays in what may be termed the Northumbrian mode, by the 
author ofHyperacoustics, Tonality - its Rational Basis and 
Elementary Development,  and other works dealing with the philosophic 
aspect of music.'
Fortunately, the tune was re-worked (and re-titled) before publication 
very successfully indeed, perhaps by Gilbert Askew himself.


There's an abc of the original tune below. It's fairly mad but you can 
hear the basis of the tune that has become familiar as Whinshields. 
The nature of the original however leaves little doubt about whether 
JLD knew the difference between a rant, a hornpipe or indeed the back 
end of an elephant.


Francis

The abc:

X:NPS Collection
T:Whin Shields on the Wall
C:John L. Dunk
Q:1/4=100
M:2/4
L:1/16
K:G
z6 d2 |B2G2 G2B2 |A2D2 D2D2 |G2G2 GABc |d3B d2g2 |e2c2 c2e2 |d2G2 G2AB 
|c2E2 E2FG |ABcd e2fg |
decB ABGF |G3E G2B2 |e2B2 B2e2 |d3A d2e2 |a2e2 e2f2 |g3e g2f2 |e2d2 
c2B2 |A2d2 d2fd |A2d2 e2fg |
a3g gfed |B2G2 GABG |A2D2 D2EF |G2G2 GABc |d6 g2 |e2c2 c2de |d2G2 G2AB 
|c2B2 A2G2 |dedB GAGE |

c3F Fd2G-|G3E G4 |]





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