[NSP] Re: NSP

2010-01-05 Thread GibbonsSoinne
   The pipes and the kingdom belong to different eras -

   the Northumbrian pipes reached something like their modern form in a
   similar time and place to the steam locomotive.

   But they were called 'Northumberland pipes' then, as were their simpler
   'unimproved' pre-Peacock version.



   'Northumbrian' is now used, confusingly, to refer to any of



   -the Anglo-Saxon kingdom

   -the modern county

   -the modern NE region, from the Tees to the border,



   never ever specifying which is meant.

   It is apparently a gross error to do so, though I never understood
   why



   John

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[NSP] Re: NSP

2010-01-05 Thread Jim Grant
   BUT it's not the county, it's the Kingdom! Thus Mercian, Northumbrian,
   Cambrian etc! We had a Golden age once long ago!  Jim Grant.
   Barry Say wrote:

Ii is one of the quirks of our wonderful language that the names of our
counties can also serve as adjectives.

Think of Durham, Yorkshire, Norfolk etc.

Whereas  France /French
Germany / German

and so on

Barry



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[NSP] Re: NSP

2010-01-05 Thread GibbonsSoinne
   or the difference between a Scottish smallpipe player and a small
   Scottish pipe player

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[NSP] Re: NSP

2010-01-05 Thread colin

What a wonderful language we have.
A small piper. Is that under a certain height then?
I defence of things, I suppose that whatever we say will, to the 
uninitiated, cause confusion.

Scottish piper? A piper from Scotland or a player of the Scottish bagpipes?
How about small pipes of Northumbria player then :-)
I suppose the sentence should really start with the word "player". A wee 
old-fashioned perhaps but clearer. How could you misunderstand "Player of 
the Northumbrian small-pipes".
It's the old "I know a man with a wooden leg called Bill - really, what's 
the other one called?".
It's knowing what the adjective describes, isn't it and that "Northumbrian 
small-pipes" is the name of the instrument?


Colin Hill

- Original Message - 
From: "Richard York" 
To: "colin" ; "NSP group" 


Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 8:48 PM
Subject: [NSP] Re: NSP




Strange, isn't it? You're right, but I can't recollect ever seeing the 
"Scotland bagpipes" mentioned, nor yet the "France bagpipes."

Yours in puzzlement, but Happy New Year anyway,
Richard.

P.S. Not being very tall, I suppose I'm a small piper, or at least 
aspiring eventually to become one.


colin wrote:

I'd go with that.
Problem with "Northumbrian" is that it may appear that it refers to where 
the artist comes from (as in "Colin Hill, Liverpudlian small-pipes 
player"). ;-)
Northumbrian piper may suggest a piper from Northumberland who  plays 
bagpipes (any).
Northumberland small-pipes player sounds good and accurate (maybe 
"player" is stretching it a little in my case). :-D


Colin Hill
- Original Message - From: "inky adrian" 


To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 3:38 PM
Subject: [NSP] NSP




  I've always called them the Northumberland small-pipes as did the NPS
  in the old days.

  Inky-adrian

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[NSP] Re: NSP

2010-01-05 Thread Barry Say
Ii is one of the quirks of our wonderful language that the names of our 
counties can also serve as adjectives.

Think of Durham, Yorkshire, Norfolk etc.

Whereas  France /French
Germany / German

and so on

Barry


On 5 Jan 2010 at 20:48, Richard York wrote:

> Strange, isn't it? You're right, but I can't recollect ever seeing the 
> "Scotland bagpipes" mentioned, nor yet the "France bagpipes."
> Yours in puzzlement, but Happy New Year anyway,
> Richard.
> 
> P.S. Not being very tall, I suppose I'm a small piper, or at least 
> aspiring eventually to become one.
> 
> colin wrote:
> > I'd go with that.
> > Problem with "Northumbrian" is that it may appear that it refers to 
> > where the artist comes from (as in "Colin Hill, Liverpudlian 
> > small-pipes player"). ;-)
> > Northumbrian piper may suggest a piper from Northumberland who  plays 
> > bagpipes (any).
> > Northumberland small-pipes player sounds good and accurate (maybe 
> > "player" is stretching it a little in my case). :-D
> >
> > Colin Hill
> > - Original Message - From: "inky adrian" 
> > 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 3:38 PM
> > Subject: [NSP] NSP
> >
> >
> >>
> >>   I've always called them the Northumberland small-pipes as did the NPS
> >>   in the old days.
> >>
> >>   Inky-adrian
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[NSP] Re: NSP

2010-01-05 Thread Richard York
Strange, isn't it? You're right, but I can't recollect ever seeing the 
"Scotland bagpipes" mentioned, nor yet the "France bagpipes."

Yours in puzzlement, but Happy New Year anyway,
Richard.

P.S. Not being very tall, I suppose I'm a small piper, or at least 
aspiring eventually to become one.


colin wrote:

I'd go with that.
Problem with "Northumbrian" is that it may appear that it refers to 
where the artist comes from (as in "Colin Hill, Liverpudlian 
small-pipes player"). ;-)
Northumbrian piper may suggest a piper from Northumberland who  plays 
bagpipes (any).
Northumberland small-pipes player sounds good and accurate (maybe 
"player" is stretching it a little in my case). :-D


Colin Hill
- Original Message - From: "inky adrian" 


To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 3:38 PM
Subject: [NSP] NSP




  I've always called them the Northumberland small-pipes as did the NPS
  in the old days.

  Inky-adrian

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[NSP] Re: NSP

2010-01-05 Thread colin

I'd go with that.
Problem with "Northumbrian" is that it may appear that it refers to where 
the artist comes from (as in "Colin Hill, Liverpudlian small-pipes player"). 
;-)
Northumbrian piper may suggest a piper from Northumberland who  plays 
bagpipes (any).
Northumberland small-pipes player sounds good and accurate (maybe "player" 
is stretching it a little in my case). :-D


Colin Hill
- Original Message - 
From: "inky adrian" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 3:38 PM
Subject: [NSP] NSP




  I've always called them the Northumberland small-pipes as did the NPS
  in the old days.

  Inky-adrian

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[NSP] Re: NSP

2010-01-05 Thread Francis Wood
Well, that's what Peacock & Wright called them.  Seems good to me.

Francis
On 5 Jan 2010, at 15:38, inky adrian wrote:

>   I've always called them the Northumberland small-pipes as did the NPS
>   in the old days.
> 
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[NSP] NSP

2010-01-05 Thread inky adrian
   I've always called them the Northumberland small-pipes as did the NPS
   in the old days.

   Inky-adrian

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[NSP] Price lowered on David Quinn NSP

2010-01-05 Thread Michael Scarborough
   Hello all,


   As I got lots of nibbles, but no bites, I am re-listing this set of
   pipes for $1,750.00. The shipping in the USA will be about $40.00,
   including the insurance, and will be paid by the buyer. I will admit to
   being very much in the dark as to the NSP market and am going solely on
   the advice I have been given. If anyone on the list has suggestions I
   would sure appreciate them. I would like to make what I can on the sale
   and, as equally important to me, find a buyer who will play and enjoy
   them.

   Many thanks,
   Michael Scarborough

   I am selling a set of basically brand new NSP made for me by David
   Quinn in 1980. They are of African Blackwood with Tiger Maple mounts.
   They have a 7 keyed, G chanter with solid brass keys. There are extra
   drone and chanter reeds, all made by David. I work with antiques and
   can say with confidence that they are beautifully made, with a
   beautiful, sweet tone to match.
   Photos are available and can be had simply be emailing me at
   [1]moscarboro...@earthlink.net, subject "NSP photos".
   I should stress that the set is in LIKE NEW condition except for the
   benefit of a beautiful patina gained with age. There are no cracks,
   dings, are abrasions anywhere. Except for the few months I spent
   attempting to learn to play them 30 years ago, they have been properly
   stored ever since. The pipes have just returned from David's shop where
   they received new key pads, a new chanter reed, and a good going over
   to be sure they were in top condition.
   Here is a link to an audio file of David, who admitted that he was
   rusty at playing the NSP, graciously obliging me by playing a couple of
   tunes on this set of pipes. They, and his verbal assessment of the
   pipes, can be heard by going to this link;
   [2]http://files.me.com/nakris/srwmxv
   There are some other odds and ends included; the Richard Butler Tutor,
   a brand new Korg chromatic tuner, and a new spool of waxed Bagpipe
   Hemp.
   Best regards,
   Michael Scarborough



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[NSP] Re: What Do You Call Yourself?

2010-01-05 Thread Christopher.Birch

>If you are playing in a church I'd suggest Northumbrian small 
>pipes (alternatively 'smallpipes' or 'small-pipes' . . . there 


I'd agree with this suggestion (and the spelling smallpipes, coz they're not 
just any old pipes that happen to be small).

I also think it's more conventional to write Joe Soap - Harp, Josette Savon - 
viola, A. Gabriel - trumpet etc. than to use harpist, violist, trumpeter etc.
FWIW
csĂ­rz



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[NSP] Re: What Do You Call Yourself?

2010-01-05 Thread Francis Wood
Hi Ernie,

If you are playing in a church I'd suggest Northumbrian small pipes 
(alternatively 'smallpipes' or 'small-pipes' . . . there are several usages).
Anything that indicates that these are not as loud as GHBs will probably be 
useful in the circumstances.

Best wishes,

Francis
On 5 Jan 2010, at 02:26, Ernie Shultis wrote:

> 
>   I have a serious question for you, whom I recognize as the panel of
>   experts.
>   There is a church near by that on Thursdays during the warmer months
>   has a concert series.
>   They have had various musicians: cellists, flautists, violinists, etc.
>   The concerts are only 1/2 hour long and are free and open to the
>   public.
>   I have been asked if I would like to be one of the featured musicians.
>   I plan to play my Northumbrian smallpipes and maybe my Scottish
>   smallpipes as well.
>   The program lists each performer by date, name and then what their
>   specialty is:
>   John Smith - Trumpeter
>   Cindy Doe - Harpist
> 
>   If I say "Ernie Shultis - Piper" people where I live only know about
>   the Great Highland Bagpipes.  So my question is, as you see in my
>   Subject line: "What Do You Call Yourself?"
> 
>   Thank you for your time and Happy New Year everyone.
>   Ernie Shultis
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