[NSP] Re: Piping videos
Original Message From: allerwa...@hotmail.com Date: 02/10/2011 12:23 To: marianne.h...@tinyworld.co.uk, Guy Hallguy. h...@tinyworld.co.uk Subj: FW: Piping videos Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 13:13:34 +0100 From: timr...@btinternet.com Subject: Piping videos To: allerwa...@hotmail.com Here are the links to the videos we took. They are only visible to people who know the link, so they are not generally public. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7R9zTdwacxU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRoEvtCSFv0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eWdIhiJpcw Love, Tim--- x To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Proper piping group
The new facebook forum The Proper Northumberland small-pipe Players has now developed into an array of topics: Traditional reedmaking, smallpipe making , traditional developement and delving into the past to see how things might have worked and possibly revamp them for todays use. The forum is not for those who have a total dislike of of all things traditional, it is for those who have a positive view and a general agreement with each other on what the small-pipes are about. We are actively recording the tunes and how we think the pipes should be sound. Adrian. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Salisbury Piping Day 2011
Salisbury Northumbrian Piping Day 2011 will be held at Idmiston Memorial Hall on Saturday 18th June from 10am - 5pm. All pipers are welcome for an informal day of piping and playarounds. Bring and share buffet, or there is a pub nearby. Small contribution towards hall hire requested (likely to be approx pounds 4). Please note that the venue is actually in Porton (not Idmiston) Village, just off the A338 five miles north of Salisbury; adjacent to Porton Garden/Aquatic Centre (follow signs from A338). For further details, contact Ian Curr, [1]i.c...@ntlworld.com -- References 1. mailto:i.c...@ntlworld.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] New Piping Superstar
This ad came up on myspace - BEYONCE 'I AM' LIVE ALBUM EXCLUSIVE No one does it better than Queen B, hear her mighty pipes recorded live on her epic world tour. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Northumbrian Piping Courses in Hexham
Di's message reminded me to post details of another weekly course in the opposite corner of the county! Once again Queen Elizabeth High School in Hexham will be offering Beginners Northumbrian Smallpipes as part of the Community Leisure programme. The 10 week course is aimed at those starting out on the instrument - no prevous musical experience is assumed. The course runs on Sunday evenings 7.30-9.30pm and the first session is on the 26th Sept. The venue is Wall Village Hall (just outside Hexham). Participants will need to provide their own pipes - last year a number of people hired sets from the NPS, others discovered friends who had a set and some had had their own set for a number of years. Assistance and advice is available The course brochure and enrolment form is available here: http://www.qehs.net/ alternatively contact the Community Leisure programme on 01434 610322 I'm also looking at the possibility of running an improver's group in tandem with this. If you or anyone you know might be interested, please do drop me a line. thanks Rob http://www.milecastle27.co.uk/rob To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Nortumbrian Piping Courses at Rothbury
--=_NextPart_001_0049_01CB500B.BE4FE340 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For info, if anyone is interested in joining one of the Northumbrian piping courses at Rothbury this autumn which start on Tuesday 21st September - there are 3 - beginners, intermediate (both with tutor - Dave Medd), and then a piping 'club' which is actually a self-programming group without a regular tutor who decide a programme for themselves. Membership of any club/group/association is not a requirement for any of the classes. There are a number of sets of pipes available for loan to beginners (for free), so please spread the word. I have attached the course details and also an enrolment form. If you need any further information, contact the centre at Dr Thomlinson Middle School at Rothbury on 01669 621292. Please note the dialling code shown on the course details is incorrect. It should be 01669 not 01661. The form and appropriate fee should be returned to: Adult Education Centre Dr Thomlinson Middle School Silverton Lane Rothbury NE65 7RJ or you can enrol in person at the first class. Happy piping! Di Jevons --=_NextPart_001_0049_01CB500B.BE4FE340 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN HTMLHEAD META http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 META content=MSHTML 6.00.6000.17080 name=GENERATOR STYLE/STYLE /HEAD BODY bgColor=#ff DIVSTRONGFONT color=#008080For info, if anyone is interested in joiningnbsp;one of the Northumbrian piping courses at Rothbury this autumn which start on Tuesday 21stnbsp;Septembernbsp;- there are 3 - beginners, intermediate (both withnbsp;tutor - Dave Medd), and then a piping 'club' which is actually a self-programming group without a regular tutor who decide a programme for themselves.nbsp;Membership of any club/group/association is Unot/U a requirement for any of the classes./FONT/STRONG/DIV DIVSTRONGFONT color=#008080/FONT/STRONGnbsp;/DIV DIVSTRONGFONT color=#008080There are anbsp;number of sets of pipes available for loannbsp;to beginners (fornbsp;free), so please spread the word./FONT/STRONG/DIV DIVSTRONGFONT color=#008080/FONT/STRONGnbsp;/DIV DIVSTRONGFONT color=#008080I have attached the course details and also an enrolment form.nbsp; If you need any further information, contact the centre at Dr Thomlinson Middle School at Rothbury on 01669 621292.nbsp; Please note the dialling code shown on the course details is incorrect. It should be 01669 not 01661./FONT/STRONG/DIV DIVSTRONGFONT color=#008080/FONT/STRONGnbsp;/DIV DIVSTRONGFONT color=#008080The form andnbsp;appropriate feenbsp;should be returned to:/FONT/STRONG/DIV DIVSTRONGFONT color=#008080/FONT/STRONGnbsp;/DIV DIVSTRONGFONT color=#008080Adult Education Centre/FONT/STRONG/DIV DIVSTRONGFONT color=#008080Dr Thomlinson Middle School/FONT/STRONG/DIV DIVSTRONGFONT color=#008080Silverton Lane/FONT/STRONG/DIV DIVSTRONGFONT color=#008080Rothbury/FONT/STRONG/DIV DIVSTRONGFONT color=#008080NE65 7RJ/FONT/STRONG/DIV DIVSTRONGFONT color=#008080/FONT/STRONGnbsp;/DIV DIVSTRONGFONT color=#008080or you can enrol in person at the first class./FONT/STRONG/DIV DIVSTRONGFONT color=#008080/FONT/STRONGnbsp;/DIV DIVSTRONGFONT color=#008080Happy piping!/FONT/STRONG/DIV DIVSTRONGFONT color=#008080/FONT/STRONGnbsp;/DIV DIVSTRONGFONT color=#008080Di Jevons/FONT/STRONG/DIV/BODY/HTML --=_NextPart_001_0049_01CB500B.BE4FE340-- -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Nortumbrian Piping Courses at Rothbury
Sorry, forgot I'm not able to send attachments on this list. Here is the appropriate web address, and both the brochure and enrolment form are available on this page. [1]http://www.northumberland.gov.uk/default.aspx?page=400 Di Jevons -- References 1. http://www.northumberland.gov.uk/default.aspx?page=400 To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Newcastleton Piping Comps
NEWCASTLETON TRADITIONAL MUSIC FESTIVAL has the longest running Border piping competition in Scotland and the only Northumbrian smallpipe competition in Scotland. This year's date is 3 July. [1]http://newcastleton.com/ [2]http://newcastleton.com/comps2010.html Entry requirements for both: Novice and Non-Previous Winner - Two contrasting Border/Northumbrian/Lowland tunes Open - As above, one or both tunes with variations. There's plenty more going on as well, formal and otherwise. And it's only fair to mention the midgies. -- References 1. http://newcastleton.com/ 2. http://newcastleton.com/comps2010.html To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] NOT PIPING!
To anyone familiar with Pro Tools LE 8.3 I've spent most of the past week trying to get get this software working on a new laptop running Windows 7. Like many out there it won't recocognise the clock from my Apogee Rosetta 200 (even at 44.1kHz) nor does it won't record for more than 1 minute before OS interupts stop it. I've tried the fixes on the Digidesign conference posts including disabling just about everything else on the computer. If any of the very clever people on this list know what might work I'd be very grateful. This has bugged me to such an extent I even missed the launch date for Jimmy's CD (no multi-tasking from yours truly!!). Anyone suggesting ideas that prove helpful will receive a copy of this feel-good album as a token of gratitude. Many thanks Anthony -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Not Piping
Both ide and sata harddrives are compatable. Therefore you may have a problem without a second internal harddrive. Adrian Thanks for that Adrian. I've also been told that fire-wire cards other than Texas instrument ones can be a problem. I think I might put the laptop idea on hold for a month or two!! Anthony -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Piping
Thanks Tony, Nice -- but watch out for the young ladies left wrist -- it's a prime candidate for RSI maybe a new fatter bag ??? regards Dave Anthony Robb wrote: Here's a bit choyt for the bairns. [1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOg93tdh0Ms Anthony -- References 1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOg93tdh0Ms To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.82/2351 - Release Date: 09/07/09 06:40:00
[NSP] the piping course
I really hate to prolong this discussion, but just want to point out that in the mid '90s I persistently begged and pleaded, in person, by e-mail and?by snail mail, ?with the NPS chairman and committee members to organize a week-long piping course such as Susan is now doing, and was told it was quite out of the question, for numerous reasons.? For the two (?) years that the Northumberland (Northumbria?) Festival took place, it would have been an ideal?combination.??? As it was, there were all manner of wonderfully interesting events taking place in the evenings, but absolutely nothing during the day.??Dave Burleigh and Maureen Davison could not have been more helpful with suggestions for places to visit and things to do to make valuable use of the time, and for?most generous hospitality.???No one was interested in playing ?a couple of duets - probably fair enough - you don't just welcome with open arms every stray who lands on you doorstep,?but finally I was put in contact w! ith Lance Robson, who could not have been friendlier.? And Colin Ross was most helpful in fettling the drone reeds he had installed a few years previously and which by then needed some further TLC. At that point in time there were no other pipers in Western Pennsylvania, and there were fairly cheap, direct flights from USA to England.??And now, ironically, over a decade later,? there is this course, which by all accounts is excellent, but air fares are much more expensive, there are no direct flights to UK from our local airport, and I have become so involved with musical activities in this area this autumn that I can't leave.? Good luck, Susan.?? It is great that you have this course, now in its 2nd year.?? Long may it continue.?? Hopefully I'll be better organized?another year and be able to join in.? And how would we all know about it if it were not mentioned on the Dartmouth NSP list?? Keep on smiling and keep on piping, (and, yes, there are now a couple of good pipers living close by, and I do play the pipes with lots of other instruments) Sheila??? -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: piping style
Tim, I think the suggestion that someone who wants to master the instrument and play well is doing it as a technical exercise instead of enjoying playing music is insulting. I believe that if you're going to play music you first need to get a level of competency on the instrument you play. I certainly agree that there are many styles of playing, and a wide range of musical tastes. --Rick On Apr 14, 2009, at 4:31 AM, tim rolls BT wrote: I too have little experience of piping, but I agree that the area of the correct way to play is a subject of some debate. I am keen to ensure that the NSP community is receptive to the efforts of young pipers, (and older ones, no prejudice here) so as I reckon you have a good thirty years yet of being a young piper you will have plenty of opportunity to develop your style, jazz on the pipes eh? Rick, if you are in the group treating pipes playing as a technical exercise, and trying to achieve a certain traditional technique is your aim, then certainly there is a right answer, and luckily there are pipers who will gladly help you work towards that aim, but if your aim is more philosophical, like trying to enjoy playing the music you can make for your own pleasure, then it would seem there are as many right answers as there are players. In general, the latter group don't try to tell the former not to try and achieve the perfection they are looking for! Each to his own. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: piping style
Rick, No insult intended, must be the way I phrase things. Some of my best friends are extremely good musicians. I didn't mean to imply that those who seek technical perfection don't also enjoy the music. Tim - Original Message - From: Rick Damon rick.da...@dartmouth.edu To: tim rolls BT tim.ro...@btconnect.com Cc: David Baker davidthba...@googlemail.com; nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 7:49 PM Subject: Re: [NSP] piping style Tim, I think the suggestion that someone who wants to master the instrument and play well is doing it as a technical exercise instead of enjoying playing music is insulting. I believe that if you're going to play music you first need to get a level of competency on the instrument you play. I certainly agree that there are many styles of playing, and a wide range of musical tastes. --Rick On Apr 14, 2009, at 4:31 AM, tim rolls BT wrote: I too have little experience of piping, but I agree that the area of the correct way to play is a subject of some debate. I am keen to ensure that the NSP community is receptive to the efforts of young pipers, (and older ones, no prejudice here) so as I reckon you have a good thirty years yet of being a young piper you will have plenty of opportunity to develop your style, jazz on the pipes eh? Rick, if you are in the group treating pipes playing as a technical exercise, and trying to achieve a certain traditional technique is your aim, then certainly there is a right answer, and luckily there are pipers who will gladly help you work towards that aim, but if your aim is more philosophical, like trying to enjoy playing the music you can make for your own pleasure, then it would seem there are as many right answers as there are players. In general, the latter group don't try to tell the former not to try and achieve the perfection they are looking for! Each to his own. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.11.57/2059 - Release Date: 04/14/09 14:52:00 To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Piping under threat!
Perhaps syncopated jiggery is a virus like the squirrel pox that grays carry but kills reds? Tim This made me wonder what 'Pan-Celtic syncopated jiggery' is, and what the nature of the threat. Sounds more like fun than a threat in the admittedly unlikely event of you asking me g To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.7.5/1702 - Release Date: 10/1/2008 9:05 AM
[NSP] Re: Piping under threat!
Seems to me that as the pipes have been around for about 500 years in their present form, but much of the repetoire is from the last 200-250 years and is probably a sample of popular tunes of the day that you could argue that the traditional tunes at least of the pipes have already been lost. As to the way of playing, who knows, each player is likely to have learnt at the knee of another, and added his own foibles. The traditional way now, and probably then, is what is in the living memory, although there is a degree of calcification due to recordings of early 20th century players, much as spelling became more fixed with the advent of the printing press. This site has recently shown that there is no certainty as to the meaning of notation, so how can we know how things were played. I'm sure that Chris Ormston, widely regarded as one of the finest players around today, will have a great influence on how the pipes are learnt and played for many years, and because there are recordings of his style, that will now go on into perpetuity, I don't think you need fear Chris, that your style will die out in the near future. Now for my pebble in the pond, As some wise chap said a while back, In my father's house there are many rooms, or words to that effect. I think there should be not just tolerance, but acceptance of a wide range of not only playing styles, but music types as well. If it was OK in the 1850's to play hit songs of the day, then why not now accept tunes from the last 40-50-60 years, which I'm sure most of us will agree has been an incredibly rich and diverse period of music writing. So, preparing to be shot down, how about In the Mood, Moon River ,Popcorn(by Hot butter if my memory serves)I am sailing (Rod Stewart) Money, money,money by ABBA. You can see wher I'm coming from. But before you do shoot, think how much poorer we would be musically if the Sax had only ever been used to play orchestral music, it's original purpose as a crossover between brass and woodwind. Tim RollsOriginal Message - From: Robert Greef [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 9:22 AM Subject: [NSP] Piping under threat! I saw the post from Chris Ormston: I'm seriously concerned that the traditional way of playing our instrument will be swept away in a wave of Pan-Celtic syncopated jiggery This made me wonder what 'Pan-Celtic syncopated jiggery' is, and what the nature of the threat. Cheers, Robert Greef To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.7.5/1702 - Release Date: 10/1/2008 9:05 AM
[NSP] Re: Piping under threat!
Seems to me that as the pipes have been around for about 500 years in their present form, ... With the keys, 200 is more like it. 'Peacock's New Invented Chanter', illustrated just after 1800. So the core repertoire, at least in the earliest local version (Dixon, in the 1730's), predates the modern instrument. Were even keyless smallpipes (rather described before the 17th century? If not, then we can't push the instrument back beyond 350 years. It is also worth bearing in mind that the northeastern musical tradition has long been at least semi-literate: e.g. Henry Atkinson, William Dixon, William Vickers, John Peacock, Robert Bewick, Harry and Tom Clough... It also stretched higher up the social scale than some people like to think. The picture (of Dixon himself?) in the Dixon MS is of a gentleman in a rather snazzy coat. The other common misconception here is that aural tradition is far more corruptible than the literate version - I know many musicians who learn complex tunes accurately by ear. On the other hand, manuscript and printed sources often disagree widely among themselves, see Matt's article on Cut and Dry Dolly in the magazine a few years back. Literate sources can only notate the version they 'know', and were often (Vickers especially) not all that literate either. John -Original Message- From: tim rolls BT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 October 2008 12:23 To: Robert Greef Cc: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [NSP] Re: Piping under threat! Seems to me that as the pipes have been around for about 500 years in their present form, but much of the repetoire is from the last 200-250 years and is probably a sample of popular tunes of the day that you could argue that the traditional tunes at least of the pipes have already been lost. As to the way of playing, who knows, each player is likely to have learnt at the knee of another, and added his own foibles. The traditional way now, and probably then, is what is in the living memory, although there is a degree of calcification due to recordings of early 20th century players, much as spelling became more fixed with the advent of the printing press. This site has recently shown that there is no certainty as to the meaning of notation, so how can we know how things were played. I'm sure that Chris Ormston, widely regarded as one of the finest players around today, will have a great influence on how the pipes are learnt and played for many years, and because there are recordings of his style, that will now go on into perpetuity, I don't think you need fear Chris, that your style will die out in the near future. Now for my pebble in the pond, As some wise chap said a while back, In my father's house there are many rooms, or words to that effect. I think there should be not just tolerance, but acceptance of a wide range of not only playing styles, but music types as well. If it was OK in the 1850's to play hit songs of the day, then why not now accept tunes from the last 40-50-60 years, which I'm sure most of us will agree has been an incredibly rich and diverse period of music writing. So, preparing to be shot down, how about In the Mood, Moon River ,Popcorn(by Hot butter if my memory serves)I am sailing (Rod Stewart) Money, money,money by ABBA. You can see wher I'm coming from. But before you do shoot, think how much poorer we would be musically if the Sax had only ever been used to play orchestral music, it's original purpose as a crossover between brass and woodwind. Tim RollsOriginal Message - From: Robert Greef [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 9:22 AM Subject: [NSP] Piping under threat! I saw the post from Chris Ormston: I'm seriously concerned that the traditional way of playing our instrument will be swept away in a wave of Pan-Celtic syncopated jiggery This made me wonder what 'Pan-Celtic syncopated jiggery' is, and what the nature of the threat. Cheers, Robert Greef To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.7.5/1702 - Release Date: 10/1/2008 9:05 AM
[NSP] Re: Piping under threat!
On 2 Oct 2008, Gibbons, John wrote: It also stretched higher up the social scale than some people like to think. The picture (of Dixon himself?) in the Dixon MS is of a gentleman in a rather snazzy coat. William Dixon was a churchwarden of his (admittedly very rural) parish. One of his many sons became Vicar of Aldermaston for 40 years (something impossible without establishment patronage at that time). He loaned money to the Shaftoe family. Percival was a freeman of Newcastle (made in 1696) He bought Fenwick Tower when Fenwick himself was dispossesed. Another of the sons moved away to Glasgow and became an ironmaster (google Willam Dixon, coalowner, Glasgow) which is possibly how the MS reached Perth. In haste Julia To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Saugerties Piping Weekend
I want to thank everyone who came out to the piping weekend. 11 Northumbrian pipers plus their significant others made up a total of 21 people who came to the event. There were 4 folks who came who had never been to Saugerties. The dates for next year are April 25-28, 2008. Only 53 more weeks to go! Happy piping Ernie Shultis _ [1]Mortgage rates near historic lows. Refinance $200,000 loan for as low as $771/month* References 1. http://g.msn.com/8HMAENUS/2749??PS=47575 To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Piping Modernism
My reaction on first hearing was negative. After I recorded the stream, enhanced the sound and played it on a decent hi-fi the pipes were much more audible. They're quiet but well recorded and separated in the mix on the far right. If you listen on headphones or computer speakers they're lost. The same musical doubts remain though - there's little of the Northumbrian tradition and harmonically the piece is foreign to the sound of the pipes. I think Chris hit the right issue - there must be some tuning and harmonics challenges with a just G scale and the other instruments, especially with the 'modern' scales and harmonies. But there are some melodic sections I like and the blend with cor anglais works at times. Instruments out of their métier seldom seem to satisfy ( I play the bassoon and wonder why people try to play jazz on them), but after a few hearings the piece is beginning to grow on me. Simon -Original Message- From: Stephen Douglass [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 9:02 AM To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [NSP] Piping Modernism Maxwell Davies comes from the musical influences of modernism, and pieces like Schoenberg's Pierrot Lunaire.. (some might switch that piece off after 30 seconds) The piping in the composition was unlikely to be expected, resolving or traditionally presented. It still managed to make it to Radio 3 though (and the play again button) . no publicity is bad publicity...eh? Steve Douglass To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Piping Modernism
Hi Simon, Your comments are very interesting. How did you record this piece? I only managed to listen to it the once, maybe it would grow in me if I heard it several times on a decent sound system (like you mentioned, my computer speakers were not up to the challenge). Richard Simon Knight wrote: My reaction on first hearing was negative. After I recorded the stream, enhanced the sound and played it on a decent hi-fi the pipes were much more audible. They're quiet but well recorded and separated in the mix on the far right. If you listen on headphones or computer speakers they're lost. The same musical doubts remain though - there's little of the Northumbrian tradition and harmonically the piece is foreign to the sound of the pipes. I think Chris hit the right issue - there must be some tuning and harmonics challenges with a just G scale and the other instruments, especially with the 'modern' scales and harmonies. But there are some melodic sections I like and the blend with cor anglais works at times. Instruments out of their métier seldom seem to satisfy ( I play the bassoon and wonder why people try to play jazz on them), but after a few hearings the piece is beginning to grow on me. Simon -Original Message- From: Stephen Douglass [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 9:02 AM To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [NSP] Piping Modernism Maxwell Davies comes from the musical influences of modernism, and pieces like Schoenberg's Pierrot Lunaire.. (some might switch that piece off after 30 seconds) The piping in the composition was unlikely to be expected, resolving or traditionally presented. It still managed to make it to Radio 3 though (and the play again button) . no publicity is bad publicity...eh? Steve Douglass To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
