[NSP] Re: Clogging
I had various replies to this off list, so hope you don't mind a massed on-list reply. Thanks for them too, and apologies for a slight delay, we were busy becoming grandparents for the first time & were bit pre-occupied and very pleased!! I realise various people had various reservations about the programmes I enthused about. I quite see the reservations - finances mis-aimed, not presenting a complete picture, selected musicians only, others not credited, and then the folk programme of dubious quality, and trad or not? etc., but intend to stick to my guns. I agree with lots of the points people made. I know there were lots of flaws... gwawn, it's TV!!.. but in the midst of so much repeatedly narcissistic self-referencing tat, with ever more paint-shopped celebrities doing ever more dumbed-down things - ... [no, hang on, I hardly ever watch TV, so can't really say that, but the bits I do see, and all the things I hear and read reported, don't inspire me to go anywhere near most of it! Those who do, correct me if I'm utterly wrong] ... - with a commercially pushed wannabe image of cool things to do which reeeaaally reaaally need you to buy expensive cool stuff, and particularly not just go out and have fun doing apparently unsophisticated but skilled things in a community, like traditional dance and music, (ha ha, Morris dancers they're all elderly gay drunks anyway, and folk dancing, always good for a laugh too), it was so refreshingly constructive to see lots of people having a great time being un-cool and practising doing these same creative things, relating to the tradition of their region, enjoying it, and encouraging other people to go and try it, with no holding back on show. And watching the reaction on the faces of the public who realised that indeed good street theatre is vitally good stuff, if only for 5 minutes. Yes, of course it was edited carefully. Do you detect a little rant, here, dear reader? In the non-NE dance sense! So now I'm a grandfather I'm allowed to be a grumpy old man, huh? And I hate watching children being taught that it's wrong, by the media and by carefully commercially-pushed peer-pressure, to have this very enjoyment, so as you'll realise from the above, it hit a nerve. And indeed it would be great to see it all done properly, but at least TV was showing it, if only on BBC4, and it's hopefully a thin end of a wedge. OK, back to the washing up. Salutations. Richard. On 11/12/2010 21:18, Richard York wrote: And a truly smashing hour it was! Cheered up our evening no end, it did. Stuff like this really is what we need now, it was truly inspiring. The 60's Folk prog which followed was a right trip down nostalgia lane :) What's happening to TV? - all this, and last night the super programme by the Unthanks about dancing round England. At this rate folk culture will be in danger of being not uncool with The Masses!! And I've watched more TV in the last two nights than I have for a month. Best wishes, Richard. On 11/12/2010 13:36, Anthony Robb wrote: Here's a link to a snippet of tonight's programme on clogging. [1]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-11930757 Cheers Anthony -- References 1. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-11930757 To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Clogging
You could set a day for as many NSPipers from around the world to gather in one place for an international NSP flash mob! Me, me, I'll go! Can we do it in New Zealand? Helen To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Clogging
Managed to watch a repeat (half past one in the morning!) of the general dance program (I did record it but just don't trust the recorder to do what I have told it). Hopefully the clogging program will turn up again shortly. They do tend to cycle them on BBC as the preceding program I have seen at least three times now. iPlayer doesn't like my slow dirge of a PC. Colin Hill - Original Message - From: "John Dally" To: "Richard York" Cc: "Anthony Robb" ; "NSP group" Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 5:25 PM Subject: [NSP] Re: Clogging Thanks for the link for the expat viewing software. Too bad they didn't include a piper among the musicians. The thought of a NSP flash-mob appearing in Gray's Square came to mind. It would be interesting to interview a crowd in downtown Newcastle about whether or not they know about NSP. How well known are the NSP to the average Geordie? When Wally Bell, formerly of Morpeth, moved to the island here he was flabbergasted to find anyone who had even heard of the NSP, much less a NSPiper. I can't wait to show him the video because he was the first in his family to not go down in the pits. His two older brothers did and one still works there. There was one fellow they interviewed in the square who had a lovely Northumbrian accent. I could listen to that all day. If there's interest in a documentary like this on clogging, there must be enough inteest for a similar kind of program on NSPiping. You could set a day for as many NSPipers from around the world to gather in one place for an international NSP flash mob! To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Clogging
Thanks for the link for the expat viewing software. Too bad they didn't include a piper among the musicians. The thought of a NSP flash-mob appearing in Gray's Square came to mind. It would be interesting to interview a crowd in downtown Newcastle about whether or not they know about NSP. How well known are the NSP to the average Geordie? When Wally Bell, formerly of Morpeth, moved to the island here he was flabbergasted to find anyone who had even heard of the NSP, much less a NSPiper. I can't wait to show him the video because he was the first in his family to not go down in the pits. His two older brothers did and one still works there. There was one fellow they interviewed in the square who had a lovely Northumbrian accent. I could listen to that all day. If there's interest in a documentary like this on clogging, there must be enough inteest for a similar kind of program on NSPiping. You could set a day for as many NSPipers from around the world to gather in one place for an international NSP flash mob! To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Clogging
And a truly smashing hour it was! Cheered up our evening no end, it did. Stuff like this really is what we need now, it was truly inspiring. The 60's Folk prog which followed was a right trip down nostalgia lane :) What's happening to TV? - all this, and last night the super programme by the Unthanks about dancing round England. At this rate folk culture will be in danger of being not uncool with The Masses!! And I've watched more TV in the last two nights than I have for a month. Best wishes, Richard. On 11/12/2010 13:36, Anthony Robb wrote: Here's a link to a snippet of tonight's programme on clogging. [1]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-11930757 Cheers Anthony -- References 1. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-11930757 To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
