[NSP] Re: The Power of Positive Thinking

2009-10-20 Thread Anita Evans

Francis Wood wrote:
In these occasionally acrimonious times, I do feel there might be some 
value in searching critically for the sources of negative influence. As 
a start, we might do well to examine the language of piping terms. That 
lexicon is in sore need of some enlightened revision. The following 
points will, I hope, provide persuasive examples.




It seems to me Francis that by calling someone a 'bagpipe' you have 
covered most of the insults known to man (woman) and saved yourself a 
great deal of effort I'm all for improvements in energy efficiency ;)


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[NSP] Re: The Power of Positive Thinking

2009-10-20 Thread Simon James
   Thankyou for opening up such a useful discussion Francis.
   I must admit that the term chanter has always concerned me - what are
   we if not individuals with our own individual styles...?
   Boreishly
   Simon

   On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Francis Wood
   [1]oatenp...@googlemail.com wrote:

 In these occasionally acrimonious times, I do feel there might be
 some value in searching critically for the sources of negative
 influence. As a start, we might do well to examine the language of
 piping terms. That lexicon is in sore need of some enlightened
 revision. The following points will, I hope, provide persuasive
 examples.
 To begin with the chanter. 'Bore' has pejorative connotations. I
 would not wish to be described in such terms. 'Narrow bore' provides
 no enhancement. 'Closed' takes us further down the path of
 negativity. And 'closed fingering' is distinctly creepy.
 Let us move to 'drones'. A joyless word suggesting tedium and
 monotony. In the apian world, the drones produce no honey. Human
 bores are said to 'drone on'. The word itself draws negativity into
 our playing experience in a way that 'harmony pipes' (to give an
 example) would not.
 As for 'stocks', that is clearly unfortunate. In historical times,
 people were locked up  in 'stocks' as a punishment which also seemed
 to require the throwing of rotten eggs. The financial usage attracts
 further dismay. Are there examples of this word being used in any
 pleasant context? I think not.
 I am not at all sure that 'blowpipe' is a very proper word. I will
 leave that for others to discuss and move on rapidly to the question
 of 'bellows'. That word instantly invokes associations with anger,
 pain and frustration. Sentiments that are entirely foreign to the
 experience of learning and playing the pipes.
 Finally, I can suggest nothing at all in defence of the usage of
 'bag' which occupies a prime position in the language of insult.
 Our choice of vocabulary is crucial in any collaborative experience.
 In the interests of harmonious piping, some critical thinking about
 the language we use may be helpful. Any scrutiny of the terms above
 would surely suggest that we need alternatives entirely devoid of
 distressing connotations.
 I invite your comments.
 Francis Wood
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[NSP] Re: The Power of Positive Thinking

2009-10-20 Thread Francis Wood
Changing the course of language is a slow and uncertain path. Before  
anyone  suggests that a working party be set up to make  
recommendations, let me say immediately that I do not think this would  
be a good idea.


With apologies,

Francis



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[NSP] Re: The Power of Positive Thinking

2009-10-20 Thread Anita Evans

Simon James wrote:

   Thankyou for opening up such a useful discussion Francis.
   I must admit that the term chanter has always concerned me - what are
   we if not individuals with our own individual styles...?
   Boreishly
   Simon



and please please remember never to let your chanters dangle in public - 
it sets a bad example. What you do in private is up to you, but you may 
have to suffer the consequences...


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[NSP] Re: The Power of Positive Thinking

2009-10-20 Thread Simon James
   *winces*
   Francis - I think your on the wrong discssion group if you're
   suggesting not setting up a working party...

   On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Francis Wood
   [1]oatenp...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Changing the course of language is a slow and uncertain path. Before
 anyone  suggests that a working party be set up to make
 recommendations, let me say immediately that I do not think this
 would be a good idea.
 With apologies,
 Francis

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[NSP] Re: The Power of Positive Thinking

2009-10-20 Thread Ian Carol Bartlett (home account)

Look what you've started now Francis.

How could we forget bindings, wrappings, bridles, straps and 
belts? With some creative thinking we could attract a very 
interesting bunch of people into the NSP world. Just don't 
mention it's piping.


Here's the first piece of publicity.

Weekend workshop.

Have you always wanted to know how to adjust your bridle for the 
best performance?

Never figured out where best to position your chest strap?

Then this is the weekend for you. Under the tutilage of an 
expert of many years join with other like minded people who just 
like to experiment, have fun and get the best experience from 
their instruments. Final performances will be solo, pairs and 
mixed groups and a  DVD will be available as a keepsake.


Shared or single rooms available.

Quiet secluded venue.

Apply etc etc..

Howls  stifled screams

Ian







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[NSP] Re: The Power of Positive Thinking

2009-10-20 Thread Francis Wood


On 20 Oct 2009, at 11:37, christopher.bi...@ec.europa.eu wrote:


Anyone know what pijpen means in Dutch? (I do).


Oh go on . . .. In this spirit of frankness and openness, we need to  
know.


Whilst we're there, I'm certain that any French speakers will advise  
against a careless translation of 'pipe-making'.


Francis



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[NSP] Re: The Power of Positive Thinking

2009-10-20 Thread Christopher.Birch

Whilst we're there, I'm certain that any French speakers will advise  
against a careless translation of 'pipe-making'.


Same thing. I hadn't been aware of the French expression, but it's in Petit 
Robert.
c



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[NSP] Re: The Power of Positive Thinking

2009-10-20 Thread Paul Gretton

Francis wrote:

P. S. Are there dates for this course?

I think the idea is probably that you bring your own date. But I'm sure an
ad hoc committee can make appropriate arrangements for you.

Cheers,

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[NSP] Re: The Power of Positive Thinking

2009-10-20 Thread colin

How nice to have a little humour again.
On a positive note, I shall now be operating my gentle summer breeze 
emulator whilst ensuring  my selected harmonic pipes are, indeed, in 
harmony.

A gentle squeeze of the cuddlesac and away we go.

Colin Hill
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  at least as pipers you don't have to worry about tonguing, just
  fingering, what with today's child protection laws i'm careful teaching
  flute to children with this terminology.



  2009/10/20 Paul Gretton [1]i...@gretton-willems.com

Surprisingly, even after 30 years of living in Holland and
mentioning that
I'm a piper, I've only ever once had anybody produce the relevant
pun!
Cheers, Paul Gretton

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  Anyone know what pijpen means in Dutch? (I do).
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