Re: [NTG-context] texshow problem after update (teTeX-2.99.10.20050123-beta)

2005-01-27 Thread Peter Münster
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Taco Hoekwater wrote:

> It cannot find the cont-en.xml data file. 
> 
> The XML data files live in /context/data/
> 
> Perhaps you forgot to run mktexlsr (most likely) or your system's kpsewhich 
> doesn't search for "other text files" in this data directory (possible)?

Thanks. I'm using the newest teTeX. Here the output of kpsewhich:
kpsewhich --format="other text files" --progname=context cont-en.xml
-> no output
kpsewhich --progname=context cont-en.xml
-> /opt/teTeX/texmf-dist/tex/context/interface/cont-en.xml

Then, I loaded the texmf.cnf into my editor and found the following text:

% Some additional input variables for several programs.  If you add
% a program that uses the 'other text files' or 'other binary files'
% search formats, you'll want to add their variables here as well.

So I added this line:
CONTEXTINPUTS = .;$TEXMF/tex/context//
And now, it seems all ok!

Thanks!
Peter

P.S.: In the manual of kpsewhich, the options begin with only one hyphen.

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Re: [NTG-context] texshow problem after update

2005-01-27 Thread Taco Hoekwater
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 18:25:28 +0100 (CET)
Peter Münster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello,
> texshow is no more working on my system after update. Here is the output:
 
It cannot find the cont-en.xml data file. 

The XML data files live in /context/data/

Perhaps you forgot to run mktexlsr (most likely) or your system's kpsewhich 
doesn't search for "other text files" in this data directory (possible)?

Greetings, Taco
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[NTG-context] texshow problem after update

2005-01-27 Thread Peter Münster
Hello,
texshow is no more working on my system after update. Here is the output:

  TeXShow-XML 0.2 beta / Taco Hoekwater 2004

 interface : cont-en

status : searching for setup files
 error : setup files not found
 error : no setup files found

Versions of the other programs:

 TeXExec 5.2.3 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2004

   texexec : TeXExec 5.2.3 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2004
   texutil : TeXUtil 9.0.0 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1992-2004
   tex : pdfeTeX, 3.141592-1.20c-beta-20050121-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.4)
   context : ver: 2005.01.13
   cont-en : ver: 2005.01.13  fmt: 2005.1.25  mes: english

TIA for any help!
Peter

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[NTG-context] \starttables and \footnote

2005-01-27 Thread =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Peter_M=FCnster?=
Hello,
could someone help me with placing a footnote in a multipage-table?
Here an example, where the table overwrite the footnote:

\starttext
\starttablehead
\HL
\NC command \NC meaning \NC\SR
\HL
\stoptablehead
\starttabletail
\HL
\stoptabletail
\starttables[|l|l|]
\NC \tex{NC}\NC next column\footnote{a footnote}\NC\FR
\dorecurse{50}{\NC \tex{MR} \NC middle row  \NC\MR}
\NC \tex{LR}\NC last row\NC\LR
\stoptables
\stoptext

Used versions:
 TeXExec 5.2.3 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2004

   texexec : TeXExec 5.2.3 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2004
   texutil : TeXUtil 9.0.0 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1992-2004
   tex : pdfeTeX, 3.141592-1.20c-beta-20050121-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.4)
   context : ver: 2005.01.13
   cont-en : ver: 2005.01.13  fmt: 2005.1.25  mes: english

Cheers, Peter

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Re: [NTG-context] TeX control sequence inside XML param

2005-01-27 Thread Vit Zyka
Hans Hagen wrote:
Vit Zyka wrote:
Hallo,
it is possible to use TeX control sequence inside XML param? How?
Example:

  ^^
\defineXMLenvironment[figure][file=,width=]
  {}
  {\externalfigure[\XMLop{file}][width=\XMLop{width}]}

Hm. You're lucky. We should make a test suite (at the wiki) to make sure 
that this kind of stuff keeps working -)

\starttext
\defineXMLentity[ctx-var-textwidth] {\textwidth}
I s! I might come to me... Actually I'd like to solve a bit more 
complex task:

\starttext
\defineXMLentity[ctx-var-textwidth] {\textwidth}
\newcount\FigNo
\defineXMLenvironment[float][]
  {\defineXMLpush[caption]%
   \global\FigNo=0
  }
  {\placefigure{\XMLflush{caption}}%
 {\dorecurse{\FigNo}%
{\edef\filewithpath{\XMLpop{dir-fig}\getvalue{file:\recurselevel}}%
 \edef\param{\getvalue{param:\recurselevel}}%
 \externalfigure[\filewithpath][\param]}}%
  }
\defineXMLenvironment[figure][file=,context=]
  {}
  {\global\advance\FigNo by1 %
   \expanded{\setvalue{file:\the\FigNo}{\XMLop{file}}}%
   \expanded{\setvalue{param:\the\FigNo}{\XMLop{context}}}%
  }
\startXMLdata

  
  
  Cow and hacker.

\stopXMLdata
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] Russia (cyrillic letters)

2005-01-27 Thread Adam Lindsay
Mikael Persson said this at Thu, 27 Jan 2005 14:50:13 +0100:

>> (Adam: what to do with names, we have Greeka GreekA etc maybe it should be
>> greeka greekA, but maybe that will clash some day; same for cyrillic)
>> 
>> Hans

Ack! You're asking me?
I always thought you had a logic to it... I just picked up the
(\cyrillicBLAH) pattern from what was already in ConTeXt.

But if you were to push me on my opinion, the greek characters should
probably have a \greek prefix, rather than \Greek, because of your usual
lowercase namespacing conventions. I'd say leave cyrillic as it is?

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Re: [NTG-context] Russia (cyrillic letters)

2005-01-27 Thread Hans Hagen
Rob Ermers wrote:
Hi,
I would be interested in a solution for Arabic... Presently \ 
works, but otherwise support for Arabic (\startarabic) is not optimal. 
If one of you could make a set-up for that too ...
arabic a bit more tricky since it has those ligatures, so that needs aleph or 
arabtex

(of course we can make an encoding with named glyphs)
Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] Russia (cyrillic letters)

2005-01-27 Thread Mikael Persson
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 13:01:30 +0100, Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mikael Persson wrote:
> 
> > OK, so here they are. Hope I understood correctly how it works... :)
> > enco-004.tex
> > and
> > enco-uc-add.tex
> > I used the names from gucharmap (char map app for Gnome) where they
> > were not yet defined. The names is not always so short as one maybe
> > would like.
> 
> This one probably needs to be updated
> 
> (Adam: what to do with names, we have Greeka GreekA etc maybe it should be
> greeka greekA, but maybe that will clash some day; same for cyrillic)
> 
> Hans
> 

Hm, OK, I can update enco-cyr.tex aswell. Atleast for t2a. I don't
really know the differences between t2a, t2b and so on...

But how to do? Use \ShowFont and see what characters actually are
present, and then add the ones that need to be added? Or maybe there
is some spec file over the encodings :) Moreover I wonder if there is
any differences between t2a and cm-super-t2a...

I guess it would be nice wth hebrew and arabic too, as mentioned.
However, since I dont recognize the characters at all from these
alphabets I am not sure I am the person who should do this.

About the memory-saving \ucharfourhex you wrote about I assume you fix
the file to the right format Hans?

So, is there anything right now I can do for speeding ut getting
cyrillic letters via utf?

/Micke P
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Re: [NTG-context] Russia (cyrillic letters)

2005-01-27 Thread Rob Ermers
Hi,
I would be interested in a solution for Arabic... Presently \ 
works, but otherwise support for Arabic (\startarabic) is not optimal. 
If one of you could make a set-up for that too ...

Kind regards,
Robert Ermers
Hans Hagen wrote:
concerning cyrillic ... we should also take care of hebrew, then we have 
latin. greek, cyrillic and hebrew covered.

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Re: [NTG-context] Russia (cyrillic letters)

2005-01-27 Thread Hans Hagen
concerning vectors:
\def\ucharfourhex#1 {\uchar4{"#1}}
\definecharacter cyrillicEgrave{\ucharfourhex00 }
saves some memory
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Re: [NTG-context] Russia (cyrillic letters)

2005-01-27 Thread Hans Hagen
concerning cyrillic ... we should also take care of hebrew, then we have latin. 
greek, cyrillic and hebrew covered.

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Re: [NTG-context] TeX control sequence inside XML param

2005-01-27 Thread Hans Hagen
Vit Zyka wrote:
Hallo,
it is possible to use TeX control sequence inside XML param? How?
Example:

  ^^
\defineXMLenvironment[figure][file=,width=]
  {}
  {\externalfigure[\XMLop{file}][width=\XMLop{width}]}
Hm. You're lucky. We should make a test suite (at the wiki) to make sure that 
this kind of stuff keeps working -)

\starttext
\defineXMLentity[ctx-var-textwidth] {\textwidth}
\defineXMLcommand[test][width=\textwidth]
  {\the\dimexpr\XMLop{width}\relax}
\startXMLdata


\stopXMLdata
\stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] Russia (cyrillic letters)

2005-01-27 Thread Adam Lindsay
Mikael Persson said this at Thu, 27 Jan 2005 11:59:57 +0100:

>OK, so here they are. Hope I understood correctly how it works... :)
>enco-004.tex
>and
>enco-uc-add.tex

Nice work. It holds up to spot-checking with my Mac OSX Unicode
"Character Palette".

>I used the names from gucharmap (char map app for Gnome) where they
>were not yet defined. The names is not always so short as one maybe
>would like.

I don't think we can get around that. All we really need is to hook
together with existing encodings, and I don't think many of those new
glyphs are used  in the existing Cyrillic TeX encodings.

thanks,
adam
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Re: [NTG-context] Russia (cyrillic letters)

2005-01-27 Thread Mikael Persson
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 10:11:51 +0100, Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Adam Lindsay wrote:
> 
> > Yeah, there is a way to use UTF-8 input, but it's not ready for Cyrillic
> > quite yet--It'll take some work (from you? :D ) to get it going.
> 
> indeed, it would be godo to have that vector, yesterday i (partially) made the
> greek one
> 
> Hans
> 

OK, so here they are. Hope I understood correctly how it works... :)
enco-004.tex
and
enco-uc-add.tex
I used the names from gucharmap (char map app for Gnome) where they
were not yet defined. The names is not always so short as one maybe
would like.

/Micke P
%D \module
%D   [   file=unic-004,
%Dversion=2005.01.27,
%D  title=\CONTEXT\ \UNICODE\ Macros,
%D   subtitle=Vector 1,
%D author=Hans Hagen,
%D   date=\currentdate,
%D  copyright={PRAGMA / Hans Hagen \& Ton Otten}]
%C
%C This module is part of the \CONTEXT\ macro||package and is
%C therefore copyrighted by \PRAGMA. See mreadme.pdf for
%C details.

\unprotect

\startunicodevector 4
  \expandafter\strippedcsname
  \ifcase\numexpr(#1+1) % space needed, terminates expr
\cyrillicEgrave   \or % 04-00 \uchar0{200} aswell
\cyrillicYO   \or % 04-01 Capital YO (or IO)
\cyrillicDJE  \or % 04-02
\cyrillicGJE  \or % 04-03 not in enco-uc.tex
\cyrillicIE   \or % 04-04 Ukrainian IE
\cyrillicDZE  \or % 04-05
\cyrillicII   \or % 04-06 Byelorussian-ukrainian I
\cyrillicYI   \or % 04-07
\cyrillicJE   \or % 04-08 same letter as latin J?
\cyrillicLJE  \or % 04-09
\cyrillicNJE  \or % 04-0A
\cyrillicTSHE \or % 04-0B
\cyrillicKJE  \or % 04-0C 
\cyrillicIgrave   \or % 04-0D I with grave
\cyrillicUSHRT\or % 04-0E
\cyrillicDZHE \or % 04-0F
\cyrillicA \or % 04-10
\cyrillicB \or
\cyrillicV \or
\cyrillicG \or
\cyrillicD \or
\cyrillicE \or
\cyrillicZH\or
\cyrillicZ \or
\cyrillicI \or
\cyrillicISHRT \or
\cyrillicK \or
\cyrillicL \or
\cyrillicM \or
\cyrillicN \or
\cyrillicO \or
\cyrillicP \or
\cyrillicR \or
\cyrillicS \or
\cyrillicT \or
\cyrillicU \or
\cyrillicF \or
\cyrillicH \or
\cyrillicC \or
\cyrillicCH\or
\cyrillicSH\or
\cyrillicSHCH  \or
\cyrillicHRDSN \or
\cyrillicERY   \or
\cyrillicSFTSN \or
\cyrillicEREV  \or
\cyrillicYU\or
\cyrillicYA\or
\cyrillica \or % 04-30
\cyrillicb \or
\cyrillicv \or
\cyrillicg \or
\cyrillicd \or
\cyrillice \or
\cyrilliczh\or
\cyrillicz \or
\cyrillici \or
\cyrillicishrt \or
\cyrillick \or
\cyrillicl \or
\cyrillicm \or
\cyrillicn \or
\cyrillico \or
\cyrillicp \or
\cyrillicr \or
\cyrillics \or
\cyrillict \or
\cyrillicu \or
\cyrillicf \or
\cyrillich \or
\cyrillicc \or
\cyrillicch\or
\cyrillicsh\or
\cyrillicshch  \or
\cyrillichrdsn \or
\cyrillicery   \or
\cyrillicsftsn \or
\cyrillicerev  \or
\cyrillicyu\or
\cyrillicya\or % 04-4F
\cyrillicegrave \or % 04-50 not i enco-uc.tex but same as \uchar0{232}
\cyrillicio\or % 04-51 small yo (or io)
\cyrillicdje   \or % 04-52 serbian letter
\cyrillicgje   \or % 04-53 macedonian letter not in enco-uc.tex
\cyrillicie\or % 04-54 ukrainian ie
\cyrillicdze   \or % 04-55 macedonian zelo
\cyrillicii\or % 04-56 byelorussian-ukrainian i.
\cyrillicyi\or % 04-57
\cyrillicje\or % 04-58 not in enco-uc.tex same as latin j?
\cyrilliclje   \or % 04-59
\cyrillicnje   \or % 04-5A
\cyrillictshe  \or % 04-5B
\cyrillickje   \or % 04-5C macedonian, not in enco-uc.tex
\cyrillicigrave \or % 04-5D macedonian, cyr i with grave not in enco-uc.tex
\cyrillicushrt \or % 04-5E
\cyrillicdzhe  \or % 04-5F
\cyrillicOMEGA \or % 04-60 Omega not in enco-uc.tex
\cyrillicomega \or % 04-61 omega not in enco-uc.tex
\cyrillicYAT   \or % 04-62 Yat not in enco-uc.tex
\cyrillicyat   \or % 04-63 Yat not in enco-uc.tex
\cyrillicEiotified \or % 04-64 iotified E not in enco-uc.tex
\cyrilliceiotified \or % 04-65 iotified e not in enco-uc.tex
\cyrillicLITTLEYUS \or % 04-66 Little Yus not in enco-enc.tex
\cyrilliclittleyus \or % 04-67 Little yus not in enco-enc.tex
\cyrillicLITTLEYUSiotified \or  % 04-68 Little Yus iotified not in enco-enc.tex
\cyrilliclittleyusiotified \or  % 04-69 Little yus iotified not in enco-enc.tex
\cyrillicBIGYUS\or % 04-6A Big Yus not in enco-enc.tex
\cyrillicbigyus\or % 04-6B Big yus not in enco-enc.tex
\cyrillicBIGYUSiotified\or % 04-6C Big Yus iotified not in enco-enc.tex
\cyrillicbigyusiotified\or % 04-6D Big yus iotified 

[NTG-context] TeX control sequence inside XML param

2005-01-27 Thread Vit Zyka
Hallo,
it is possible to use TeX control sequence inside XML param? How?
Example:

  ^^
\defineXMLenvironment[figure][file=,width=]
  {}
  {\externalfigure[\XMLop{file}][width=\XMLop{width}]}
Thank you
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! Missing \endcsname inserted.

   \texescape
\XML:ent:tex-backslash ...kslash \else \texescape
  \fi
\param:1 ->width=.45\getXMLentity {tex-backslash}
 textwidth
\getvalue #1->\csname #1
\endcsname
\calculateexternalfigure ...guresvg #1[#4][#5][#6]
  \doifsomething 
\@@efmaxwid...
 ...dummy ][\filewithpath ][\param ][][]

\calculateexternalscreenfi...
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Re: [NTG-context] Russia (cyrillic letters)

2005-01-27 Thread Mikael Persson
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 10:11:51 +0100, Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Adam Lindsay wrote:
> 
> > Yeah, there is a way to use UTF-8 input, but it's not ready for Cyrillic
> > quite yet--It'll take some work (from you? :D ) to get it going.
> 
> indeed, it would be godo to have that vector, yesterday i (partially) made the
> greek one
> 
> Hans

I am doing it right now for the cyrillic ones. There are some
\definecharacter that has to be added (I list them too)
It will be finished within an hour or two.

Micke
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Re: [NTG-context] Russia (cyrillic letters)

2005-01-27 Thread Hans Hagen
Mikael Persson wrote:
Hm, I don't think so. But that is a question for everyone to consider.
However, if you ask me I would be happy to have (snipped from the
README file):

  rm:  Computer Modern Roman
  sl:  Computer Modern Slanted
  ti:  Computer Modern Italic
  cc:  Computer Modern Caps and Small Caps
  ui:  Computer Modern Unslanted Italic
is this oen really used?
  sc:  Computer Modern Slanted Caps and Small Caps
  ci:  Computer Modern Classical Serif Italic
is that one used?
  bx:  Computer Modern Bold Extended
  bl:  Computer Modern Bold Extended Slanted
  bi:  Computer Modern Bold Extended Italic
  xc:  Computer Modern Bold Extended Caps and Small Caps
  oc:  Computer Modern Bold Extended Slanted Caps and Small Caps
  rb:  Computer Modern Roman Bold
  bm:  Computer Modern Roman Bold Variant
  ss:  Computer Modern Sans Serif
  si:  Computer Modern Sans Serif Slanted
  sx:  Computer Modern Sans Serif Bold Extended
  so:  Computer Modern Sans Serif Bold Extended Slanted
  tt:  Computer Modern Typewriter
  st:  Computer Modern Typewriter Slanted
  it:  Computer Modern Typewriter Italic
  tc:  Computer Modern Typewriter Caps and Small Caps
  vt:  Computer Modern Variable Width Typewriter
  vi:  Computer Modern Variable Width Typewriter Italic

"Each font shape comes in 14 font sizes ranging from 5pt to 35.83pt (or
11 font sizes for typewriter fonts ranging from 8pt to 35.83pt)."
I don't think all sizes are necessary.
if we stick to 10pt as base ... (see type-cbg.tex)
and moreover it would be nice to have
  sform5 .. sform10:  Computer Modern Concrete Roman
  sfosl5 .. sfosl10:  Computer Modern Concrete Slanted
  sfoti10:Computer Modern Concrete Italic
  sfocc10:Computer Modern Concrete Caps and Small Caps
ok, but a different set
(maybe not all sizes here either)
and
  sfbmr{8,9,10,17}:  Computer Modern Bright Roman
  sfbmo{8,9,10,17}:  Computer Modern Bright Oblique
  sfbsr{8,9,10,17}:  Computer Modern Bright Semibold
  sfbso{8,9,10,17}:  Computer Modern Bright Semibold Oblique
  sfbbx10:   Computer Modern Bright Bold Extended
  sfbtl10:   Computer Modern Typewriter Light
  sfbto10:   Computer Modern Typewriter Light Oblique
used? keep in mind that cmsuper is far from perfect
Hm, well, this is all but ~18 (times 13 or 14 sizes)... so maybe it is
worth to have them all? What do one loose? speed? work? If work, then
I am ready to write what shall be written if you only show me for one
font.
i don't want 75 meg font files; i can live with 2 meg extra in the minimal 
distribution, so a base of 10pt ones sounds ok to me

so:
- we need a koi vector (enco-koi)
- a list of the 10pt font files that make sense
About the encodings: According to my russian friend koi8-r is the most
common now, but utf is coming more and more. This is what one person
said, so if someone else think it is different, they may very well be
right (my friend is mostly TeX:ing on UNIX systems, and from what I
read from search results, the koi8r and koi8-r (which seems to be the
same?) are mostly used on UNIX and www. So maybe the windows 1521
encoding is still used by Windows users?)
However, I can't get it working with koi8-r. It works in LaTeX (tried
with the russian "Not so short introduction to LaTeX" document, and it
seemed to use t2a and koi8-r). Under ConTeXt, the document I try (the
rexample.tex saved in koi8-r instead of windows 1521) compiles, I get
russian letters, but the letters are at wrong places. I am using
\enableregime[koi8-r], and saving the document in koi8-r encoding. Is
there anything else I should do?
so where does this t2a then fit in? we can make koi the main one and move the 
t2's to some additional typescript [so that it no longer slows down things] that 
users can 'load' in their cont-sys.tex

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Re: [NTG-context] Russia (cyrillic letters)

2005-01-27 Thread Hans Hagen
Adam Lindsay wrote:
Yeah, there is a way to use UTF-8 input, but it's not ready for Cyrillic
quite yet--It'll take some work (from you? :D ) to get it going.
indeed, it would be godo to have that vector, yesterday i (partially) made the 
greek one

Hans


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