Re: [NTG-context] Mini-survey: What do you do with ConTeXt?

2005-11-09 Thread Jörg Hagmann



  What do you do with ConTeXT?


As the editor of the 70+ page annual report of an ornithological  
society, I learned to hate word. When I was approached by a publisher  
with the offer of writing a textbook of biochemistry, I decided to  
try something more suitable and chose -- just why is hard to say, I  
didn't know anything about any of the possibilities -- ConTEXt.  It  
was very hard simply to find out what it was and then how to install  
it and after that how to get some presentable result. But it's great  
-- thanks to everybody.


It is always claimed that writing in a text editor and leaving the  
layout/typesetting part for later is better because you concentrate  
on writing. This is not true, at least not when working with ConTEXt.  
It is much more fun to tex what you have, to try out this and  
that,  than to think about the next sentence. I now write with a  
Parker Duofold (bought years ago while on a bicycle tour in the  
Netherlands!) in a notebook before I go to the computer.


One last thing: TEX-users seem to be very modest. They always claim  
to be just beginners. An example: The title of a recent TUGboat  
article (2003) was Writing a book -- A first experience with LaTEX.  
The introduction defined the contribution as a paper by non-experts  
for non-experts. Just what I need, I thought. It wasn't, and the  
explanation could be found at the end: The author had a thirty-plus  
year career in high tech computer RD ...


Cheers, Jörg.


Prof. Dr.med. Jörg Hagmann-Zanolari
Institute of Biochemistry and Genetics
DKBW, University of Basel
Mattenstrasse 28
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Re: [NTG-context] cont 2005.10.27 t5-lmtt10 font problem

2005-11-09 Thread Hans Hagen

Taco Hoekwater wrote:



A lot of the problems you have come down to this: teTeX 3.0 is not
exactly the same as teTeX 2.02 was (mostly because of changes in
the TeX Directory Standard); but the linux rpm/deb packages try
hard to make it appear to be. Hence the attemps to make it fit in
the old directory structure (Most probably this is because
maintainers tend to dislike change).


also, tetex and tex live differ; one complication is that, because of 
the many possible installation variants on linux, some of the paths are 
set differently (and become pretty complex when you see them in their 
expanded form); it makes tracing errors painful


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Re: [NTG-context] xml, context and hyphenation

2005-11-09 Thread Wolfgang Zillig


I have created an other hyph.xml file with the following content:
   hyphenations language=de regime=utf
   hyphenationVoll-stän-dig-keit/hyphenation/hyphenations

this file is included by:
   \processXMLfilegrouped {hyph.xml}

In my file which I use for processing I use now:
   \useXMLfilter [utf,hyp]

The compillation stops with the following message:

xml : loading module hyp
(C:\texmf\tex\context\base\xtag-hyp.tex
loading : Context XML Macros (hyphenation)
) (./env.tuo) (./env.tuo) (./env.tuo) (./env.tuo) (./env.tuo) (./env.tuo)
(./env.tuo) (./env.tuo) (./env.tuo) (./env.tuo) (./env.tuo) (./env.tuo)
(./env.tuo)
systems : begin file env at line 127
(./hyph.xml
! Not a letter.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]@adiaeresis -\char 228
  
\utfunihashglyph ...r \utfdiv {#1}}{#1}\endcsname

 \fi
inserted text Voll-stä
n-dig-keit
\hyphenation ...malhyphenation {\the \scratchtoks
 }\endgroup
l.2 hyphenationVoll-stän-dig-keit/hyphenation
 /hyphenations
?


What do I do wrong?

Many thanks

Wolfgang


Hans Hagen schrieb:


Taco Hoekwater wrote:


Wolfgang Zillig wrote:


Hello Taco,

when I try to compile your example file:

Then I get no output! The logfile is at the end of the message! 




That was intentional. \showhyphens only writes a message
to the terminal, no typesetting was doen.

It complains about that the coding utf is unknown! 




That was a mistake. I used \useencoding, where I should have
used \enableregime. Revised version:

  \language[de]
  \enableregime[utf]
  \hyphenation{Voll-stän-dig-keit}
  \starttext
  \showhyphens{Vollständigkeit}
  \stoptext

Either way, your output from my test file looks fine.



if you want to define hyphenation exceptions in XML code:

\useXMLfilter[hyp]

(see xtag-hyp for more info)

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Re: [NTG-context] compiling pdftex docs

2005-11-09 Thread Hans Hagen

Taco Hoekwater wrote:


Tobias Wolf wrote:


There are loads of errors remaining (in the version from tug.org) like
the following, which is also present in the atpragma mode:


! Missing number, treated as zero.
to be read again
   }
\tabulatecontent ...NR \HL \NC \type {\pdfoutput }
   \NC integer \NC 0 
\NC \DV...




Those are the same errors I got. I just assumed they were
a side-effect of the cvs version.


in cont-new.tex say:

\let\protectedfirsttype\string % \relax by default

this problem was introduced when some problems with color were posted;

i need to look into it; the tricky thing is that verbatim (always) 
behaves different in direct and in 'passed as argument' mode, which is 
the nature of tex; unfortunately there is no easy way around e.g. using 
scantokens, because reprocessing may introduce spaces,


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Re: [NTG-context] Interaction background

2005-11-09 Thread Hans Hagen

Olivier wrote:


Hi,

is there any way to disable the reverse color highlighting when using
interaction mode? I'd like to access a next page button without the
background being video reversed. Does anybody know how to achieve this?
 


\setupinteractions[click=no]
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Re: [NTG-context] cont 2005.10.27 t5-lmtt10 font problem

2005-11-09 Thread Hans Hagen

Tobias Wolf wrote:


On 11/4/05, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 


Tobias Wolf wrote:

   


My system, as I mentioned, is teTex 3 from Debian unstable, which has
a weird new map system that is working through .cfg files in
/etc/texmf/updmap.d . I kept it there, so it mounts lm.map itself (is
it used anyway in ConText?).


 


i don't use updmap at all

context loads map files on demand (when configured in cont-sys.tex)

when no cont-sys.tex is present, then cont-sys.rme is used

the presense of those files in /etc is disturbing (and strange since tex
has pretty well layed out tree with defined configuration places)

i have no idea how tex + friends can/will locate those files
   



I think they want to make people use /etc for configuration, which
could make sense if you want to make backups of the system config.
The updmap.d directory is supposed to make mounting maps easier, I
guess. You just drop a file there containing the Map/MixedMap
assignments and that is merged into updmap.cfg on issuing updmap-sys.

Pretty confusing all that.

But on the other hand, Hans, why can't I compile the PDFTex docs
because I don't have this (
http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2004/006705.html )
 



because that one has been dropped long ago

\usetypescript[adobekb] [your encoding]

(see type-akb.tex)


And secondly, why is the file system searched case sensitive, so that
the fonts are called in lowercase through the ConText maps
(ec-raw-lte5002), so that I have to rename all files, but then
mktextfm fails because it looks for ec-raw-LTe50021?
 

hm, i always lowercsase all fonts on installation (font vendors make a 
mess of case in names)



For me the disturbing things are starting to prevail in my ConText
experience. Is it supposed to be like that?
 

depends; fonts are always an issue; also, wanting to handle fonts 
(names) in context as in latex, you end up in constant changes and updates


btw, esp the last few years, there has been many changes in fonts 
(locations of files, map syntax changes), etc etc


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[NTG-context] fix for verbatim

2005-11-09 Thread Hans Hagen

The following patch

\unprotect

\let\protectedfirsttype\string

\bgroup
\catcode`\[=\@@begingroup
\catcode`\]=\@@endgroup
\catcode`\{=\@@active
\catcode`\}=\@@active
\gdef\initializetypegrouping%
 [\catcode`\{=\@@active
  \catcode`\}=\@@active
  \let\normalactivebgroup{%
  \let\normalactiveegroup}%
  \def\activeleftargument%
[\bgroup
 \let}\activerightargument
 \normalactivebgroup
]%
  \def\activerightargument%
[\normalactiveegroup
 \egroup]%
  \let{=\activeleftargument
  \let}=\egroup
 ]
\egroup

\protect

works ok for

\setupcolors[state=start]
\setuptype[option=color]
\setuptyping[option=color]
\setupwhitespace[big]

\starttext

\starttyping
x\pdfoutput{xx} {nn}
\pdfoutput{xx} {nn}
\stoptyping

\type{x\pdfoutput {xx} {nn}}
\type{x\pdfoutput{xx} {nn}}
\type{x\pdfoutput{xx} {nn}}

\stoptext

but no coloring here:

\starttabulate[|l|]
\NC \type{\pdfoutput {xx}{,,}}  \NC\NR
\NC \type{\pdfoutput{xx}{,,}}  \NC\NR
\NC \type{{xx}{,,}}  \NC\NR
\stoptabulate

beware: since in tabulate args are passed, the { } in \type are seen as 
grouping tokens and disappear.


i'll try to make up a solution (no way around space after \cs then, 
unless taco fixes tex -)


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Re: [NTG-context] Bug / feature request tracking

2005-11-09 Thread Steffen Wolfrum

Hi Taco,

was the request tracker changed? I remember 3 months ago I wrote an  
entry at  http://context.literatesolutions.com .
It was something like the fifths entry I think, but I can't remember  
wether it was called collector (I remember it looked different).


However, now I cannot find it anymore.

So, here is the request again feature request for placefigure   
extension:


*** request start ***

Hi,

it would be great if the \placefigure macro could be extended to
combinations like

\placefigure{top,left}

or

\placefigure{bottom,outer}


The reason for this request is that we use ConTeXt a lot for
typesetting books from arts and humanities.

There we often have to place a lot of (more then 100) figures at
fixed positions like top-outer and bottom-inner, wrapped by text.

I guess it's not a trivial feature to be implemented in TeX's
paragraph processing, but I know it might be worth the effort:
ConTeXt's way to deal with fonts and text is so superior that it
should be also accessible for disciplines that besides text also rely
on images - as the arts and humanities do.

Steffen

*** request stop ***

Thank you!

Steffen






Am 07.11.2005 um 18:50 schrieb Taco Hoekwater:

Hi all,

Some of you may be aware of the fact that there is a bug /
feature request tracker for ConTeXt. The URL is:

  http://context.literatesolutions.com/collector

I have to do a call-to-arms for the people that have made
feature requests and / or found bugs in the past few months,
especially if the extension /solution has not been included
in the latest distribution (2005.10.27).

Will you all please have a look at the current list, and see
if I have added your item(s) already?

I have a rather large archive of context-related email (because
I let it slip for a while), and  I fear that may have missed
some extant bugs. This is quite important, because if it is not
in the list, it is much less likely to get fixed.

Greetings,
Taco

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Re: [NTG-context] xml, context and hyphenation

2005-11-09 Thread Hans Hagen

Wolfgang Zillig wrote:



I have created an other hyph.xml file with the following content:
   hyphenations language=de regime=utf
   hyphenationVoll-stän-dig-keit/hyphenation/hyphenations

this file is included by:
   \processXMLfilegrouped {hyph.xml}

In my file which I use for processing I use now:
   \useXMLfilter [utf,hyp]

The compillation stops with the following message:

xml : loading module hyp
(C:\texmf\tex\context\base\xtag-hyp.tex
loading : Context XML Macros (hyphenation)
) (./env.tuo) (./env.tuo) (./env.tuo) (./env.tuo) (./env.tuo) (./env.tuo)
(./env.tuo) (./env.tuo) (./env.tuo) (./env.tuo) (./env.tuo) (./env.tuo)
(./env.tuo)
systems : begin file env at line 127
(./hyph.xml
! Not a letter.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]@adiaeresis -\char 228


which means that in ec encoding is not suited here

btw, if you use a recent context, it has hyphenation patterns that are 
less encoding dependent


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Re: [NTG-context] Re: Creatin metafun.mem on OSX

2005-11-09 Thread Hans Hagen

andrea valle wrote:


Gerben, Thomas,

I'm cleaning my hard disk (and my mind) and reinstalling.

I changed the PATH (via bash tutorial...) and removed the sw tree.
I installed thru i-installer, including the context updater.

Now I have the two files mentioned by Thomas in their right place.

Updating ConTeXt I have obtained:
You have just installed a ConTeXt installation 2005.10.27

So, I'm supposing that, as Hans has patched the bug-free version, I 
simply have to wait that automatically the new version is installable.

Am I right?


if you use gwtex, it will happen automatically since gerben keeps things 
pretty up to date



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Re: [NTG-context] xml, context and hyphenation

2005-11-09 Thread Taco Hoekwater



Hans Hagen wrote:


btw, if you use a recent context, it has hyphenation patterns that are 
less encoding dependent


Is that why it worked for me?

Taco

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Re: [NTG-context] extra page in presentation styles

2005-11-09 Thread Hans Hagen

Hans van der Meer wrote:


Both of you thanks for taking the trouble to run the example.
Because of your results I became convinced the problem was lurking  
somewhere in my part of the ConTeXt installation. That enabled me the  
quickly locate the culprit: a spurious comma introduced (by me of  
course, stupido) in cont-sys.tex (cont-sys.rme). A pity this comma  
did not show up in the output; it makes your help the more valuable.


such a comma may not be visible because it is obscured by some layer or 
because a font is not yet loaded (rare)


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Re: [NTG-context] Re: Creatin metafun.mem on OSX

2005-11-09 Thread andrea valle

Gerben, Thomas,

I'm cleaning my hard disk (and my mind) and reinstalling.

I changed the PATH (via bash tutorial...) and removed the sw tree.
I installed thru i-installer, including the context updater.

Now I have the two files mentioned by Thomas in their right place.

Updating ConTeXt I have obtained:
You have just installed a ConTeXt installation 2005.10.27

So, I'm supposing that, as Hans has patched the bug-free version, I 
simply have to wait that automatically the new version is installable.

Am I right?


Thanks

-a-

PS:


kpsewhere mp-spec.mp



before it gave me:
apples-Computer:~ apple$ kpsewhere mp-spec.mp
/sw/share/texmf/metapost/context/base/mp-spec.mp

Now it gives me nothing:
apples-Computer:~ apple$ kpsewhere mp-spec.mp
apples-Computer:~ apple$





on my system (Gerben's architecture), I get:

/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/metapost/context/base/mp-spec.mp
/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/metapost/context/base/mp-spec.mp


The following comment is only valid for my redistribution:

Normally, you would only have the second line (ConTeXt that is part of
teTeX 3.0, which is roughly a year out of date). You only get the first
line if you have installed my ConTeXt updater package. The texmf.local
location is found before the texmf.tetex location, hence, installing 
the
updater overrules what is in teTeX. Uninstalling the ConTeXt updater 
gets

you back to the version in teTeX 3.0.

You can set an automatic check for update for i-Packages in i-Installer
after which you get a mail message telling you which packages have
updated. The ConTeXt i-Package itself is updated automatically on the
repositories if Hans releases a new version or a new beta. Which means
that you'll hear about any ConTeXt update within 24 hours 
automatically.
The ConTeXt updater is the only i-Package which is updated 
automatically

on the repositories.

G

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DAMS - Facoltà di Scienze della Formazione
Università degli Studi di Torino
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Re: [NTG-context] hoffset and voffset in \setupTABLE

2005-11-09 Thread Hans Hagen

� wrote:


Hello,
here comes another feature request:

independant horizontal and vertical offsets in TABLE-cells. Or even
topoffset, bottomoffset, leftoffset and rightoffset.
 

that may come in a future version of context when \framed will have them 
(currently ot would slow down too much)


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Re: [NTG-context] font-switching oddities

2005-11-09 Thread Hans Hagen

Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:


Hi all,

I'm having some trouble with bodyfont switching. It involves two  
fonts that I adapted myself, so it's difficult to make a minimal  
example. Both fonts are defined in typescripts (these are just  
examples, it works the same for every typescript I tried).


was this solved?



\starttypescript [Caslon]
  \definetypeface [MyCaslon] [rm] [serif] [caslon] [default]  
[encoding=texnansi]


 \definetypeface [MyCaslon] [mm] [math] [modern] [default] 


\stoptypescript




\starttypescript[GreekGentium]
\definetypeface [MyGreekGentium] [rm] [serif] [greekgentium]  
[default] [rscale=\getvariable{Greek}{scale},encoding=agr]


 \definetypeface [MyCaslon] [mm] [math] [modern] [default]


\stoptypescript


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[NTG-context] currentvalue

2005-11-09 Thread Hans Hagen

Hi,

The \currentvalue module functionality written by Taco will be included 
in the kernel. However, instead of expanding (always) all assignments, 
Taco and I opt for using the less destructive \expanded:


%D \startbuffer
%D \getparameters[a][b=d]
%D \expanded{\getparameters[a][b=c\currentvalue]}
%D \framed{\ab}
%D \stopbuffer
%D \typebuffer
%D
%D Gives: \getbuffer

Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] Bug / feature request tracking

2005-11-09 Thread Taco Hoekwater



Steffen Wolfrum wrote:

Hi Taco,

was the request tracker changed? I remember 3 months ago I wrote an  
entry at  http://context.literatesolutions.com .
It was something like the fifths entry I think, but I can't remember  
wether it was called collector (I remember it looked different).


However, now I cannot find it anymore.

So, here is the request again feature request for placefigure   
extension:


re-inserted. IIRC, there has been a crash of the collector some
time ago, forcing a re-install from backup.

Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] Problems with Natural Tables

2005-11-09 Thread Hans Hagen

Vit Zyka wrote:


Vit Zyka wrote:
 ...


so please, is the file 'core-ntb-new.tex' somewhere available?



i merged the 'core-ntb-new.tex' code into the main file


Solution of my own question, for who is interesting.

Description:
The next patch enables to define intercolumn gaps in Natural Table 
(bTABLE...eTABLE) environment.



I added your patches, but renamed the keys:

\starttext

% distance mechanism, per column (H)

\start
   \setupTABLE[c][1][distance=2em]
   \setupTABLE[c][2][distance=3em]

   \bTABLE
   \bTR \bTD test \eTD  \bTD test \eTD  \bTD test \eTD \eTR
   \bTR \bTD[nx=2] test \eTD  \bTD test \eTD \eTR
   \bTR \bTD test \eTD  \bTD[nx=2] test \eTD \eTR
   \eTABLE

   \bTABLE[option=stretch]
   \bTR \bTD test \eTD  \bTD test \eTD  \bTD test \eTD \eTR
   \bTR \bTD[nx=2] test \eTD  \bTD test \eTD \eTR
   \bTR \bTD test \eTD  \bTD[nx=2] test \eTD \eTR
   \eTABLE
\stop

% distance mechanism, per table (V)

\framed[offset=none]{%
\setupTABLE[column][2][align=left]
\setupTABLE[column][3][align=right]
\bTABLE[columndistance=2cm,leftmargindistance=.3cm,rightmargindistance=.5cm]
 \bTR
   \bTH[nc=3] Table head\eTH
 \eTR
 \bTR\bTD[nc=2] AB\eTD\bTD C\eTD\eTR
 \bTR\bTD[nc=2,align=left] AB\eTD\bTD C\eTD\eTR
 \bTR\bTD[nc=2,align=middle] AB\eTD\bTD C\eTD\eTR
 \bTR\bTD A\eTD\bTD B\eTD\bTD C\eTD\eTR
 \bTR\bTD Aa\eTD\bTD Bb\eTD\bTD Cccc\eTD\eTR
 \bTR\bTD[nc=3,align=middle] ABC\eTD\eTR
\eTABLE
}

\stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] long quotation problem

2005-11-09 Thread Hans Hagen

Alan Bowen wrote:


Peter, Willi, and Hans�

I have incorporated your suggestions for getting better looking long  
quotations, and all is now working very well indeed. Many thanks to  
you all.


Alan

PS For the record, here is what I have now�just in case someone down  
the line runs into the same problem. A.


% Extracts or Long  Quotations
//


 In body text

\defineblank[extractdistance][3pt]

\definestartstop[extract][
  before={ \blank[extractdistance,force]
\setupnarrower[left=1.5pc,right=1.5pc]
\startnarrower[left,right]
\noindent},
  after={\stopnarrower
   \blank[extractdistance,force]
\indenting[yes]}]

% In footnotes

\defineblank[footenoteextractdistance][2.7pt]

\definestartstop[fnextract][
  before={ \blank[footenoteextractdistance,force]
\setupnarrower[left=1.5pc,right=1.5pc]
\startnarrower[left,right]
\noindent},
  after={\stopnarrower
   \blank[footenoteextractdistance,force]
\indenting[yes]}]


was this wiki'd?

Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] font-switching oddities

2005-11-09 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz

This was partially solved. If I add the bodyfontsize explicitly

\definebodyfont
[30pt,25pt,20pt,18pt,17.3pt,14.4pt,12pt,11pt,10pt,9pt,8pt,7pt,6pt,5pt, 
4pt]

[rm]
[default]

I don't get these errors, and the files compile fine. But since its  
for my module, I still have a problem: what if the customer sets  
bizarre sizes like 10.25pt? So my question was: is it possible to  
have a blanket definition like [all] vel. sim. to be covered for all  
cases?


And thanks for the hint to add math; will do that for every typescript.

Best

Thomas

On Nov 9, 2005, at 11:53 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:


Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:


Hi all,

I'm having some trouble with bodyfont switching. It involves two   
fonts that I adapted myself, so it's difficult to make a minimal   
example. Both fonts are defined in typescripts (these are just   
examples, it works the same for every typescript I tried).


was this solved?



\starttypescript [Caslon]
  \definetypeface [MyCaslon] [rm] [serif] [caslon] [default]   
[encoding=texnansi]


 \definetypeface [MyCaslon] [mm] [math] [modern] [default]

\stoptypescript




\starttypescript[GreekGentium]
\definetypeface [MyGreekGentium] [rm] [serif] [greekgentium]   
[default] [rscale=\getvariable{Greek}{scale},encoding=agr]


 \definetypeface [MyCaslon] [mm] [math] [modern] [default]


\stoptypescript


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Re: [NTG-context] accents inside text mode inside math

2005-11-09 Thread Hans Hagen

Mojca Miklavec wrote:


Hello,

thera were some problems concerning accented characters in math 
(mathml) a while ago (as far as I remember they were solved). But some 
tiny bugs apparently remained there.


Minimal example:
$\cases{\ccaron}$


is there a problem in the ec vector? compare:

\ccaron $\cases{\ccaron \fontname\font}$ \quad $\cases{\tf\ccaron 
\fontname\font}$


\setupencoding[default=texnansi]
\definetypeface[xxx][rm][serif][modern][default][encoding=texnansi]
\definetypeface[xxx][mm][math] [modern][default][encoding=texnansi]
\setupbodyfont[xxx,12pt]

\ccaron $\cases{\ccaron \fontname\font}$ \quad $\cases{\tf\ccaron 
\fontname\font}$


\stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] How to use layers or other methods for precise positioning of items

2005-11-09 Thread Hans Hagen

� wrote:


When I was trying to use this feature for multipage document it cut of
all of the pages except the first.  I found out that the layers
weren't thought to be part of the content of the file but more like a
background and I can't figure out how to use them on many pages
without placing something like a dot on every page.  Is there any way
to do this?
I discovered that the layers were inserted into the document via
\setupbackgrounds[page] so I understand why it acts like this but I
am asking if there is some way of getting layers working like I want?
 


was this solved?

(btw, if you are positioning things in a n by n way, an option is to use 
small pages (A7 or so) and ise the page imposition xy feature to collect 
them on a page)



Another thing I was wondering about is how to make items like images
bleed (that is to go over the edge of the paper, to avoid white lines
at the margin).  Can I use negative values for positioning to achive
that?
 


indeed,

\setposition[...][hoffset=2mm,voffset=-2mm,...]

(in principle h(v)offset and x(y) do similar things but having two keys 
for each makes it possibel to separate the bleed from the positioning)


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Re: [NTG-context] Index

2005-11-09 Thread Hans Hagen

Olivier wrote:


Quoting  Thomas A. Schmitz :
 


-- was [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Oct 16, 2005 at 12:11:31 -


You're right, a quick test demonstrated the bug.

In the texutil script there seems to be only sorting on entries' labels
and no further sorting with the page number because it sorts this string
 join($JOIN,$Class,$LCKey,$Key,$Entry,$TextHow,$RegStatus,
$RealPageNumber,$Location,$Page,$PageHow,$SeeToo) 


What about using a hash instead of a string to handle the register
entries' information so that it will be easier to handle the page ranges
after having sorted the labels?
 


newtexutil work different

I wrote a note 
to the list about these bugs about a week ago, but there were no  
replies. I guess if there are two of us and we yell loud enough, Hans  
will hear us eventually :-)
   

not with headphones, which i normally wear when i'm in that kind of 
debugging mode -)




I'm with you :))
 


so, what was the test file?

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Re: [NTG-context] font-switching oddities

2005-11-09 Thread Hans Hagen

Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:


And thanks for the hint to add math; will do that for every typescript.


that probbably solves the problem

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Re: [NTG-context] accents inside text mode inside math

2005-11-09 Thread Taco Hoekwater



Hans Hagen wrote:

Mojca Miklavec wrote:


Hello,

thera were some problems concerning accented characters in math 
(mathml) a while ago (as far as I remember they were solved). But some 
tiny bugs apparently remained there.


Minimal example:
$\cases{\ccaron}$



is there a problem in the ec vector? compare:


Not exactly a problem. The texnansi ones work thanks to the
(semi-)coincidence that the accent-part of the font encoding
is identical to Knuthian encoding, and that simply doesn't work
for less knuthian encodings like ec, where this is not the
case.

Perhaps you have to introduce a macro like  \buildmathaccent ...


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Re: [NTG-context] Index

2005-11-09 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz


On Nov 9, 2005, at 2:11 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:

not with headphones, which i normally wear when i'm in that kind of  
debugging mode -)


try a megaphone? ;-)





I'm with you :))


so, what was the test file?

Hans


Compile this with newtexexec:

\starttext

\index{This} This \index{and} and  \index{That} That.

\page

\placeindex

\stoptext

and This and That will be sorted under h.

If you modify the file like so:

\starttext

\index{This} This \index{and} and  \seeindex{That}{This} That.

\page

\placeindex

\stoptext

it will give this error message:

! Argument of \@@filterlevelpart has an extra }.
inserted text
\par
to be read again
   }
\doifprevlevelelse ...tor \@@filterlevelpart [#1]}
  \edef  
\@@tocsectiontype {\...


\dosetpageregisterpage ...-\doifreglevelelse [#5]
   
{\dodosetpageregisterpage ...

l.46 ...isterpage{index}{,}{3}{2::0:0:0:0:0:0:0}{}

Runaway argument?
0:0:0:0:0:0:0]
! Paragraph ended before \@@filterlevelpart was complete.
to be read again
   \par
to be read again
   }
\doifprevlevelelse ...tor \@@filterlevelpart [#1]}
  \edef  
\@@tocsectiontype {\...


\dosetpageregisterpage ...-\doifreglevelelse [#5]
   
{\dodosetpageregisterpage ...

l.46 ...isterpage{index}{,}{3}{2::0:0:0:0:0:0:0}{}

! Argument of \@@filterblockpart has an extra }.
inserted text
\par
to be read again
   }
\doifprevlevelelse ...pe {\@@filterblockpart [#1]}
  \ifcase  
\alltoclevels \ifn...


\dosetpageregisterpage ...-\doifreglevelelse [#5]
   
{\dodosetpageregisterpage ...

l.46 ...isterpage{index}{,}{3}{2::0:0:0:0:0:0:0}{}

Runaway argument?
0:0:0:0:0:0:0]
! Paragraph ended before \@@filterblockpart was complete.
to be read again
   \par
to be read again
   }
\doifprevlevelelse ...pe {\@@filterblockpart [#1]}
  \ifcase  
\alltoclevels \ifn...


\dosetpageregisterpage ...-\doifreglevelelse [#5]
   
{\dodosetpageregisterpage ...

l.46 ...isterpage{index}{,}{3}{2::0:0:0:0:0:0:0}{}

! Argument of \@@filternumberpart has an extra }.
inserted text
\par
to be read again
   }
\pageprefix ...stprefix {\@@filternumberpart [#2]}
  \let  
\donexttrackcommando ...

argument ... {\??id \v!index }[2::0:0:0:0:0:0:0]
  \translatednumber  
[2::0:0:...


\doregisterpagehowto ...??id #1\c!pagecommand }{#2
  }\dostopattributes
argument ...erpage {\v!index }[2::0:0:0:0:0:0:0]
  \ifnum 1=2\/\fi
...
l.46 ...isterpage{index}{,}{3}{2::0:0:0:0:0:0:0}{}

Runaway argument?
0:0:0:0:0:0:0]
! Paragraph ended before \@@filternumberpart was complete.
to be read again
   \par
to be read again
   }
\pageprefix ...stprefix {\@@filternumberpart [#2]}
  \let  
\donexttrackcommando ...

argument ... {\??id \v!index }[2::0:0:0:0:0:0:0]
  \translatednumber  
[2::0:0:...


\doregisterpagehowto ...??id #1\c!pagecommand }{#2
  }\dostopattributes
argument ...erpage {\v!index }[2::0:0:0:0:0:0:0]
  \ifnum 1=2\/\fi
...
l.46 ...isterpage{index}{,}{3}{2::0:0:0:0:0:0:0}{}

Runaway argument?
! Paragraph ended before \@@dofilterheadpart was complete.
to be read again
   \par
\@@filterheadpart ... \@@dofilterheadpart [EMAIL PROTECTED] [#1
  :0]
argument ...ix {\@@filterheadpart [\postprefix ]
  }\edef \postprefix  
{\@@fil...


\firstoftwoarguments #1#2-#1

\donexttrackcommando #1-\dodopageprefix {#1}
 \donexttracklevel {#1}
\pageprefix ...\donexttrackcommando \firstsection
  \egroup
...
l.46 ...isterpage{index}{,}{3}{2::0:0:0:0:0:0:0}{}

Runaway argument?
! Paragraph ended before \@@dofiltertailpart was complete.
to be read again
   \par
\@@filtertailpart ... \@@dofiltertailpart [EMAIL PROTECTED] [#1
  :0]
argument ...ix {\@@filtertailpart [\postprefix ]
  }\let \uchar  
\normaluchar ...


\firstoftwoarguments #1#2-#1

\donexttrackcommando #1-\dodopageprefix {#1}
   

RE: [NTG-context] Mini-survey: What do you do with ConTeXt?

2005-11-09 Thread Pearson, Mark (Capita Symonds)
Hi All,

I'm currently working in a team which is building a system for
the automatic production of office stationery (business cards,
letterheads and compliment slips) with ConTeXt at its heart. 

The system provides a web-application front end for selected
users to create stationery orders. These orders are then 
processed to produce .tex files, which are processed by 
ConTeXt to produce press-ready PDFs. The PDFs are sent with
order details straight to our in-house printing department.

I was tasked with creating the PDF engine and chose ConTeXt
because (a) I have a lot of experience with LaTeX and hence a
great deal of respect for TeX's capabilities but (b) knew that
controlling the layouts in LaTeX would be a pain.

The following features of ConTeXt are used in this project:

* Native support for OpenType fonts
* Support for creation of high quality press-ready PDFs
* Fine control over document layout, page design etc.
* Support for embedding JPG, TIFF, PNG amd PDF images
* Support for the use of named (PANTONE) spot colours

The choice of ConTeXt was not an easy one having never used
it before but my gut feeling was that it is a very powerful
and flexible piece of software. It has met all my requirements
so far but not without a fight, as the documentation can be
very sparse! 

I will certainly contribute what documentation I can when I
have more time.

Mark

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Re: [NTG-context] Problems with Natural Tables

2005-11-09 Thread Vit Zyka

Hans Hagen wrote:

Vit Zyka wrote:


Vit Zyka wrote:
 ...


so please, is the file 'core-ntb-new.tex' somewhere available?




i merged the 'core-ntb-new.tex' code into the main file


Solution of my own question, for who is interesting.

Description:
The next patch enables to define intercolumn gaps in Natural Table 
(bTABLE...eTABLE) environment.




I added your patches, but renamed the keys:


Thanks, renaming makes sence.
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Re: [NTG-context] Header design

2005-11-09 Thread Hans Hagen

Alexander Lazic wrote:


Hi,

i have now try to setup the CD pagedesign.

Please can anyone help me to find a solution for this setup ;-)

What i need is:

Title_of_the_document | section


was this solved?

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Re: [NTG-context] long quotation problem

2005-11-09 Thread Alan Bowen

Hans—

I have not wiki-ed anything before, so this was a first try and  I  
think it worked. At least it shows up on my user page.


Best, Alan


On Nov 9, 2005, at 7:30 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:


Alan Bowen wrote:


Peter, Willi, and Hans�

I have incorporated your suggestions for getting better looking  
long  quotations, and all is now working very well indeed. Many  
thanks to  you all.


Alan

PS For the record, here is what I have now�just in case someone  
down  the line runs into the same problem. A.


% Extracts or Long   
Quotations//


 In body text

\defineblank[extractdistance][3pt]

\definestartstop[extract][
  before={ \blank[extractdistance,force]
\setupnarrower[left=1.5pc,right=1.5pc]
\startnarrower[left,right]
\noindent},
  after={\stopnarrower
   \blank[extractdistance,force]
\indenting[yes]}]

% In footnotes

\defineblank[footenoteextractdistance][2.7pt]

\definestartstop[fnextract][
  before={ \blank[footenoteextractdistance,force]
\setupnarrower[left=1.5pc,right=1.5pc]
\startnarrower[left,right]
\noindent},
  after={\stopnarrower
   \blank[footenoteextractdistance,force]
\indenting[yes]}]


was this wiki'd?

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Re: [NTG-context] accents inside text mode inside math

2005-11-09 Thread Hans Hagen

Taco Hoekwater wrote:




Hans Hagen wrote:


Mojca Miklavec wrote:


Hello,

thera were some problems concerning accented characters in math 
(mathml) a while ago (as far as I remember they were solved). But 
some tiny bugs apparently remained there.


Minimal example:
$\cases{\ccaron}$




is there a problem in the ec vector? compare:



Not exactly a problem. The texnansi ones work thanks to the
(semi-)coincidence that the accent-part of the font encoding
is identical to Knuthian encoding, and that simply doesn't work
for less knuthian encodings like ec, where this is not the
case.

Perhaps you have to introduce a macro like  \buildmathaccent ...



actually, \cases{\tf \ccaron}$ works ok
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Re: [NTG-context] Index

2005-11-09 Thread Hans Hagen

Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:



On Nov 9, 2005, at 2:11 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:

not with headphones, which i normally wear when i'm in that kind of  
debugging mode -)



try a megaphone? ;-)





I'm with you :))


so, what was the test file?

Hans



Compile this with newtexexec:

\starttext

\index{This} This \index{and} and  \index{That} That.

\page

\placeindex

\stoptext



can you play a bit with the following: (patch context/ruby/base/texutil.rb)

   def preset(shortcuts=[],expansions=[],reductions=[],divisions=[])
   # maybe we should move this to sort-def.tex
   'a'.upto('z') do |c| expander(c) ; division(c) end
   'A'.upto('Z') do |c| expander(c) ; division(c) end # ! ! ! ! 
! ! ! added ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
   expander('1','b') ; expander('2','c') ; expander('3','e') ; 
expander('4','f')
   expander('5','g') ; expander('6','h') ; expander('7','i') ; 
expander('8','i')

   expander('9','j') ; expander('0','a') ; expander('-','-') ;
   # end potential move
   shortcuts.each  do |s| shortcut(s[0],s[1]) end
   expansions.each do |e| expander(e[0],e[1]) end
   reductions.each do |r| reducer(r[0],r[1]) end
   divisions.each  do |d| division(d[0],d[1]) end
   end

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Re: [NTG-context] Index

2005-11-09 Thread Hans Hagen

Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:


If you modify the file like so:

\starttext

\index{This} This \index{and} and  \seeindex{That}{This} That.

\page

\placeindex

\stoptext

it will give this error message:



add the copied = false  to:

   handle  
\\registersee{#{entry.type}}{#{entry.pagehowto},#{entry.texthowto}}{#{entry.seetoo}}{#{entry.page}}\n 
;
   lastpage, lastrealpage = entry.page, 
entry.realpage

   copied = false # no page !

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Re: [NTG-context] accents inside text mode inside math

2005-11-09 Thread Taco Hoekwater




Hans Hagen wrote:


actually, \cases{\tf \ccaron}$ works ok


Without the \tf, \characterencoding is '@default@' instead
of '@ec@'. Does that help pinpoint the problem?

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Re: [NTG-context] wasy symbol set

2005-11-09 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
symb-was.tex addresses only wasy10 (see below), but there are  
also  wasy5-9 and wasyb10 (bold?) - how can I use these? (Don't  
know if  that makes any sense.)

\definefontsynonym [WaSy] [wasy10]
\def\WaldiSymbol#1{\getglyph{WaSy}{\char#1}}


define:

\definefontsynonym [WaldiSymbol] [wasy10]
\definefontsynonym [WaldiSymbolBold] [wasyb10]


Oh, me stupid, could have thought of that myself.

But what about the different design sizes?
I don't think that makes much sense here, but how would I address them?



I'll add a (slightly patched) version of your file to the distribution


Great! My first contribution. ;-)


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Re: [NTG-context] Index

2005-11-09 Thread Thomas A . Schmitz
Excellent! As far as I can see, this takes care of the seeindex bug  
and of the sorting bug. On the negative side: ranges make the new  
texutil.rb bomb out. Two down, one to go!!!


Thanks a lot, Hans!

Thomas


On Nov 9, 2005, at 5:07 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:


Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:


If you modify the file like so:

\starttext

\index{This} This \index{and} and  \seeindex{That}{This} That.

\page

\placeindex

\stoptext

it will give this error message:



add the copied = false  to:

   handle  \\registersee{# 
{entry.type}}{#{entry.pagehowto},#{entry.texthowto}}{# 
{entry.seetoo}}{#{entry.page}}\n ;
   lastpage, lastrealpage = entry.page,  
entry.realpage

   copied = false # no page !

Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] wasy symbol set

2005-11-09 Thread Hans Hagen

Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:



But what about the different design sizes?


just pretend that there is only 10pt


I don't think that makes much sense here, but how would I address them?


by some kind of clever mapping where the name is taken from a control 
sequence with 10pt as fall back; a few lines of code probably, but not 
worth the effort


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Re: [NTG-context] Index

2005-11-09 Thread Hans Hagen

Thomas A.Schmitz wrote:

Excellent! As far as I can see, this takes care of the seeindex bug  
and of the sorting bug. On the negative side: ranges make the new  
texutil.rb bomb out. Two down, one to go!!!


send me a test file -)

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Re: [NTG-context] accents inside text mode inside math

2005-11-09 Thread Hans Hagen

Taco Hoekwater wrote:





Hans Hagen wrote:



actually, \cases{\tf \ccaron}$ works ok



Without the \tf, \characterencoding is '@default@' instead
of '@ec@'. Does that help pinpoint the problem?


this seems to work, the problem is that there is no \everyfam

\starttext

\def\enableencodinginmath
 {\appendtoks
\everyhbox{\mr\everyhbox\emptytoks}%
\everyvbox{\mr\everyvbox\emptytoks}%
  \to \everymath}

\enableencodinginmath

$\cases{ \ccaron}$

$x=\hbox{\ccaron$x=\hbox{\ccaron}$}$

\stoptext


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Re: [NTG-context] Re: Creatin metafun.mem on OSX

2005-11-09 Thread Gerben Wierda

On Nov 9, 2005, at 11:37, Hans Hagen wrote:


andrea valle wrote:


Gerben, Thomas,

I'm cleaning my hard disk (and my mind) and reinstalling.

I changed the PATH (via bash tutorial...) and removed the sw tree.
I installed thru i-installer, including the context updater.

Now I have the two files mentioned by Thomas in their right place.

Updating ConTeXt I have obtained:
You have just installed a ConTeXt installation 2005.10.27

So, I'm supposing that, as Hans has patched the bug-free version, I 
simply have to wait that automatically the new version is 
installable.

Am I right?


if you use gwtex, it will happen automatically since gerben keeps 
things pretty up to date


*Almost* automatic.

As soon as Hans updates either the beta or stable version of the 
ConTeXt zip files, the next night (CET) the ConTeXt Updtare i-Package 
is rebuilt and distributed to the repositories automatically. You still 
need to install it yourself (it is i-Installer's philosophy that no 
action will be performed unless a human accepts it, complete automation 
without user intervention is a big potential security risk)


If you start i-Installer and go to the Preferences and you go to the 
Other tab you can set an automatic check for updates on i-Packages 
you have (Check packages for updates...). This creates a unix 
'crontab' entry which is run at the time you have selected (e.g. every 
day a 07:00). This entry runs a helper program that checks the remote 
version of all your i-Packages and will report updated i-Packages via 
Mail. It won't automatically update  install (as per the philosophy).


G

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Re: [NTG-context] wasy symbol set

2005-11-09 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm

Am 2005-11-09 um 19:51 schrieb Hans Hagen:

But what about the different design sizes?

just pretend that there is only 10pt

I don't think that makes much sense here, but how would I address  
them?
by some kind of clever mapping where the name is taken from a  
control sequence with 10pt as fall back; a few lines of code  
probably, but not worth the effort


Ok; I thought I'd remember some typescript magic with sized fonts,  
but couldn't find it; no wonder if it's not possible. ;-)



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Re: [NTG-context] Index

2005-11-09 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
Correction: I goofed up; after correcting the file, I get exactly  
what I expected. AFAICS, index generation now works flawlessly with  
newtexexec! Great, wonderful, kudos to you!


I'm happy again! Thanks Hans

best

Thomas

On Nov 9, 2005, at 7:48 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:


send me a test file -)

Hans


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Re: [NTG-context] Index

2005-11-09 Thread Hans Hagen

Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:

Correction: I goofed up; after correcting the file, I get exactly  
what I expected. AFAICS, index generation now works flawlessly with  
newtexexec! Great, wonderful, kudos to you!


I'm happy again! Thanks Hans


well, thanks for testing newtexexec -)

Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] Re: Creatin metafun.mem on OSX

2005-11-09 Thread andrea valle
If you start i-Installer and go to the Preferences and you go to the 
Other tab you can set an automatic check for updates on i-Packages 
you have (Check packages for updates...).


Already done.

 This creates a unix 'crontab' entry which is run at the time you have 
selected (e.g. every day a 07:00). This entry runs a helper program 
that checks the remote version of all your i-Packages and will report 
updated i-Packages via Mail.


(Fine. How does this notification happen? Does he knows my email? Or am 
I asking something stupid?)


Another obvious thing, but just to be sure. Using gwtex means for me 
typesetting from inside TeXShop with standard engine default. Right?



Thanks a lot to all for the support

So, know I'm waiting for updates

-a-

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Re: [NTG-context] fix for verbatim

2005-11-09 Thread Peter Münster
On Wed, 9 Nov 2005, Hans Hagen wrote:

 (btw, it becomes time to drop non-etex code -)

Is there any reason to keep it?
Cheers, Peter

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Re: [NTG-context] French spacing before punctuation

2005-11-09 Thread Peter Münster
On Mon, 31 Oct 2005, Hans Hagen wrote:

 - And what commands to configure this?
   
 
 see hand-def, end of file (i need to look into it again because thanh 
 added some more variants, so some of the definition commands may change; 
 this will not hurt the higher level usage)

Hello Hans,
I tried the following test file, but nothing happens:

\enableregime[il1]
\starttext
\definefontsynonym[myfont][Serif][handling=prespacing]
\definefont[whatever][myfont sa 1]
\setupalign[spacing]

\whatever look at this: we now have a proper spacing feature and, hurray,
get rid of active punctuation!

bla «XXX» bla, bla, «bla», bla

\definefontsynonym[myotherfont][Serif][handling=glm]
\definefont[whatevertwo][myotherfont sa 1]
\whatevertwo
bla «XXX» bla, bla, «bla», bla
\stoptext

Versions:

texexec : TeXExec 5.4.3 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2005
texutil : TeXUtil 9.0.0 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1992-2004
tex : pdfeTeX, 3.141592-1.30.4-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.5)
context : ver: 2005.10.27
cont-en : ver: 2005.10.27  fmt: 2005.11.9  mes: english

Greetings, Peter

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