Re: [NTG-context] chinese etc

2005-12-15 Thread Richard Gabriel




Hello Hans,yes, I'm seriously interested in Japanese. I can provide you some sample Japanese documents in UTF-8. But I have them in XML only - I'll prepare some ConTeXt samples. I've also tried to prepare the enc and tfm files for fonts I've available - the Mona open-source font and the Microsoft's Mincho family but I was unsuccessfull.I have really not experience with this so I'll post another message regarding this - maybe somebody can help me!-RichardFrom: Hans Hagen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: c [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 23:23:24 +0100Subject: [NTG-context] chinese etc Hi,if someone wants japanese and korean etc utf-8 support, he/she should deliver the fonts, test files and samples in utf-8Hans___ntg-context mailing listntg-context@ntg.nlhttp://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
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[NTG-context] Problems creating tfms for an Unicode font

2005-12-15 Thread Richard Gabriel




Hello ConTeXters,in consequence to the Hans' prompt, I've tried to create enc and tfm files for some Japanese fonts. Namely, I've tried the Mona (http://monafont.sourceforge.net/index-e.html) and MS Mincho (distributed with Windows XP).I've done these steps:1) Created a TTX representation of the font with the ttx utility (http://sourceforge.net/projects/fonttools/)ttx -t cmap -t name msmincho.ttf2) Created the enc files using the Adam Lindsay's XSL stylesheet (http://www.ntg.nl/maps/pdf/30_10.pdf)I've googled out that Japanse "Katakana" and "Hiragana" characters are located at Unicode offsets 0x30, 0x32, 0x33 and 0xff. So I've created four enc files the following wayjava -jar saxon8.jar msmincho.ttx ttx2enc.xsl "vector=30" msmincho30.encThe files are created without errors, but I cannot judge if they are correct...3) Tried to create the appropriate tfm files with the ttf2tfm utility. ttf2tfm msmincho.ttf -T msmincho30.enc msmincho30.tfmI got a lot of warnings of style:--- cut ---ttf2tfm: WARNING: Cannot find character `uni3064' specified in input encoding.ttf2tfm: WARNING: Cannot find character `uni3065' specified in input encoding.--- cut ---and finally this error:--- cut ---Using msmincho30.enc as input encoding.ttf2tfm: ERROR: No TTF characters.--- cut ---No tfm file was created.Could somebody advise/help me? I really haven't any experience with font conversion and cannot realize what's goings wrong...If somebody is willing to help, I'll send him the appropriate files (I can't post them here - it's over 5MB zipped...).Thanks,Richard___
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Re: [NTG-context] \totalnumberofpages and \setuparranging [2UP]

2005-12-15 Thread Tobias Burnus

Hi,

John Magolske wrote:
I'm having trouble getting \totalnumberofpages to display while using 
\setuparranging [2UP].

In order to get \totalnumberofpages (or \lastpage), the following happens:
- First TeX run - produces file.tui
- TeXutil - convert file.tui into file.tuo
- Second TeX run - reads file.tuo
The file.tuo file contains the needed information. (texexec calls 
texutil automatically and reruns if needed)


If you \setuparranging [2UP], the file.tui contains these extra lines:
  c \utilitygenerationaborted
  q {quit}
which prevents TeXutil from creating the needed information.

Why this is done that way, we have to wait for Hans to answer.

Workaround: Run TeX once (texexec ), remove the two lines, run 
texutil --ref file and run TeX again (texexec ...)


Tobias
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Re: [NTG-context] \totalnumberofpages and \setuparranging [2UP]

2005-12-15 Thread Johan Sandblom
Could it be that texexec needs to be run with

texexec --arrange

Johan

2005/12/15, Tobias Burnus [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi,

 John Magolske wrote:
  I'm having trouble getting \totalnumberofpages to display while using
  \setuparranging [2UP].
 In order to get \totalnumberofpages (or \lastpage), the following happens:
 - First TeX run - produces file.tui
 - TeXutil - convert file.tui into file.tuo
 - Second TeX run - reads file.tuo
 The file.tuo file contains the needed information. (texexec calls
 texutil automatically and reruns if needed)

 If you \setuparranging [2UP], the file.tui contains these extra lines:
c \utilitygenerationaborted
q {quit}
 which prevents TeXutil from creating the needed information.

 Why this is done that way, we have to wait for Hans to answer.

 Workaround: Run TeX once (texexec ), remove the two lines, run
 texutil --ref file and run TeX again (texexec ...)

 Tobias
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Re: [NTG-context] The speed of development?

2005-12-15 Thread Mojca Miklavec
leon wrote:
 Hi guys,

 I read in various places that the pace of development is fast. I don't
 get a clue of what that means.

See http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Release_Notes.

 As far as I know LaTeX hasn't been
 updated for over 3 years. So how fast is conTeXt being developed? The
 conTeXt manual dated 2001 since pretty old to me. Am I right?

LaTeX has (almost) nothing to do with ConTeXt, but even LaTeX packages
are updated every now and then.

Hans is coding so fast that he doesn't have enough time to document
everything ;)
Sure, the manual is somehow outdated: many new features are not yet
described there (perhaps in some other manual, on wiki, on the mailing
list archive, in the source or nowhere yet), but the manual is still
very useful - since ConTeXt is backward compatible and the most
important functionality was already there at that time, you can safely
use it.

Mojca
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[NTG-context] About \defineshortcut

2005-12-15 Thread Radhelorn

Hello All!

There is intresting macros in cont-new -- shortcuts. It works pretty 
well, but I have one question: how to undefine them back?


For example after command:

\defineshortcut [//] [] [style=\em]

I can get slash only by \textslash (which is expected) and it breaks 
things like:


\typefile {some/dir/file}

So how to revert to previous meaning of '/'? It is possible to do it 
only temporarily?


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[NTG-context] Trivial \cite m-bib related question

2005-12-15 Thread Renaud AUBIN





Hi all,

I've a doc structured as followed :

env_phd.tex

biblio.bib

project_phd.tex
 -- prd_phd.tex
   -- c_intro.tex (frontmatter)
   -- c_chap1.tex (bodymatter)

I have read the previous thread [NTG-context] bibmodule + project, the
result is :
 - in each
components :
 \usepublications[prd_phd]
 - in prd_phd.tex (before \starttext)
 \setupbibtex[database=biblio,sort=author] 
 \setuppublications[alternative=num-fr]
 \usepublications[prd_phd]

My biblio.bib contains :

@InProceedings{reno,
 author =  {{Aubin}, Renaud},
 title =  {Titre test},
 booktitle = {book title test},
 pages =  {1--100},
 year =  2005
}

I have compiled my product with :
texexec --once prd_phd
bibtex prd_phd
texexec prd_phd
texexec prd_phd
texexec prd_phd

I have a \cite[reno] in c_intro.tex, the prd_phd.bbl is ok and
\completepublications works well I obtain [??] as the result of \cite
and the log gives me :
references : unknown reference [][reno]
though my prd_phd.bbl =

\setuppublicationlist[samplesize={{Aub}05},totalnumber=1]

\startpublication[k=reno,t=inproceedings,
a={{{Aubin}}},y=2005,
n=1,s={Aub}05]
\author[]{Renaud}[R.]{}{{Aubin}}
\pubyear{2005}
\arttitle{Titre test}
\title{book title test}
\pages{1--100}
\stoppublication

and the log

publications : loading database from prd_phd.bbl

I don't understand what happened... What I'm doing wrong ? I have try
some options for \cite but it's not better and my understanding of
m-bib need to be improved since i've recently switched from LaTeX to
ConTeXt.







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[NTG-context] Re: The speed of development?

2005-12-15 Thread leon
Many thanks, Mojca. It's very informative.

Mojca Miklavec [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 | leon wrote:
 |  Hi guys,
 | 
 |  I read in various places that the pace of development is fast. I don't
 |  get a clue of what that means.
 | 
 | See http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Release_Notes.
 | 
 |  As far as I know LaTeX hasn't been
 |  updated for over 3 years. So how fast is conTeXt being developed? The
 |  conTeXt manual dated 2001 since pretty old to me. Am I right?
 | 
 | LaTeX has (almost) nothing to do with ConTeXt, but even LaTeX packages
 | are updated every now and then.
 | 
 | Hans is coding so fast that he doesn't have enough time to document
 | everything ;)
 | Sure, the manual is somehow outdated: many new features are not yet
 | described there (perhaps in some other manual, on wiki, on the mailing
 | list archive, in the source or nowhere yet), but the manual is still
 | very useful - since ConTeXt is backward compatible and the most
 | important functionality was already there at that time, you can safely
 | use it.
 | 
 | Mojca

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[NTG-context] interesting font

2005-12-15 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz

Dear all,

quite by coincidence, I discovered a nice font for download. It is  
called GFSDidot and can be downloaded at http://greekfontsociety.org/ 
typefaces.html


I became interested because it has a full set of polytoniko Greek  
characters, but the Latin typeface (which resembles Palatino) is very  
nice, too; it has (for the Regular variant) a full set of small caps,  
oldstyle figures, and full f-ligatures, so it's almost an expert  
font. The font is free; the readme says:


You may use these fonts for personal and commercial use. These fonts  
may be freely redistributed, provided that you do not alter them in  
any way and that you credit GFS for this.


These fonts are distributed free and may not be sold or resold for  
any purposes.


The font comes in the usual four variants as an OpenType font.  
However, texfont and the lcdf-tools choked on the bold and bold  
italic with this message:


../include/lcdf/vector.hh:52: failed assertion `i=0  i_n'

After converting them to pfb/afm (via cfftot1), installation was  
easy. If anyone (Adam??) can figure out what this message means, I'd  
be grateful nevertheless.


Have a look and enjoy!

Best

Thomas
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Re: [NTG-context] \totalnumberofpages and \setuparranging [2UP]

2005-12-15 Thread John Magolske

Yes, the --arrange option does the trick!
Thankyou Tobias and Johan for the informative replies.

What a nice system ConTeXt is, it's becoming one of my favorite tools.

John



Could it be that texexec needs to be run with

texexec --arrange

Johan

2005/12/15, Tobias Burnus :
  Hi,


 John Magolske wrote:
  I'm having trouble getting \totalnumberofpages to display while using

   \setuparranging [2UP].

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Re: [NTG-context] What about dynamic documentation?

2005-12-15 Thread Jérôme Laurens


Le 6 déc. 05, à 14:59, Taco Hoekwater a écrit :



Hi Jérôme,

Before you go any further on this, please check out:

  http://texshow.contextgarden.net



Thanks, here is at least a starting point.
However, this seems rather far from the pdf manuals and does not really 
help a newbie as I am.

More precisely:

0 - Category search is missing. It is well known that searching by 
contents or by command name won't give the proper result if the search 
request is not well formed a priori.
Each command should have a list of associated key words, allowing smart 
navigation and filtering
For example, the sectionning commands (including toc, headers and so 
on) could be gathered in one big category.


1 - The examples oftenly need output to let the user really understand 
the effect.
Moreover, the information available in the graphical output is more 
obvious thus more efficient.


2 - Missing code template(s) to paste into the source, copy/paste does 
noot help when really needed. Of course, I can grab them from 
contextgarden but it is there both hidden and not  well formatted.


3 - The description only concerns the command.
Each key should also have its own description.
Each predefined value should also have its own description.
Then the user interface can provide a layout a la headerdoc or some 
kind of rollup tooltips.


4 - The data storage model for a size range seems weird. The range 5pt 
... 12pt is coded with an ordered list of 3 values 5pt '... and 
12pt whereas it means an unordered list of 8 values: 5pt, 6pt, 
..., 12pt. This latter data model obviously turns into a pop up 
button with a list of sizes.


5 - The command variants might need specials (eg \setupinterlinespace).

6 - Sometimes the acceptable values depend on the context (eg arguments 
of \ref), it means that all the relevant information is not static and 
the data model should provide some entry points. But at first glance 
this is a very advanced feature which cost might be unaffordable.


Finally, it seems that the underlying data model needs more entropy.

A -

Comments?



The backbone of texshow-web is a set of XML files that
are already present in the distribution (look for cont-en.xml)

Cheers, Taco

Jérôme Laurens wrote:

Hi all,
Is is extremely useful for a newbie as I am to have access to the 
manuals electronically.

You just open the pdf and search to obtain what you need.
In general, you end up with a command that you have to copy from the 
pdf then paste to your source file.
Another solution is to use the text editor completion feature, which 
is available only once you know the correct command name, at least 
the beginning...
What I am missing is a button in the pdf itself that would 
automagically insert the proper code in my source.
To be more concrete, here is what could be done (on Mac OS X at 
least).

0 - Define a data model.
1 - For a reasonnable set of commands, define dedicated GUIs panels.
2 - Write a dedicated browser
As there is a huge amount of reasonnable TeX and ConTeXt commands, 
it is -not- reasonnable to fine tune a dedicated GUI for each one.
But with some perl I think it would be possible to turn for example 
the Quick References Manuals into a set of xml files, each one 
dedicated to its own command. If these files are just HTML forms 
(modulo the proper style and automagic filter), we have the GUI for 
free using a web browser. The communication between the browser and 
the text editor could come from SUBMIT. At least a copy/paste phase 
would be enough.
I already have a custom web browser that can insert some text 
directly in a text editor (iTeXMac) It is based on Mac OS X WebKit.
Which means that I will incorporate this browser directly into iTM, 
but this not the question so far.

All this makes points 1 and 2 above acceptable IMHO.
The problems come from point 0.
I think a good thing would be to create a subsection of the context 
garden, or another wiki, gathering all the sources.
The seed would come from the actual documentation with automagic 
scripts and people would update at will.
Then people would be able to work on a local version using a web 
sucker.

We can imagine searching facilities as well
BTW, Sometimes it is necessary to have some output to understand the 
real effect of a command. This should enter into consideration.

How does it sound?
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