Re: [NTG-context] linenotes/footnotes

2006-04-23 Thread Thomas A . Schmitz
On Apr 23, 2006, at 7:24 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:i'll post an update with support for notedefinitions in such text notesHans OK, just tested, and I'm not sure if I'm misunderstanding something or if this is still a bug: the notes themselves are now typeset the way I expected (thanks!), but the note references are typeset in the margin, all on top of each other.Thanks, and bestThomas___
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Re: [NTG-context] paragraphs indented from line 2 on

2006-04-23 Thread Karsten Heymann
Hans Hagen wrote:

> Karsten Heymann wrote:

>> Great, works like a charm! By the way: What's the benefit of
>> \definestartstop over \def\start..., \def\stop...?

> looks nicer and is configurable (style,color etc) 

So it doesn't insert a extra level ouf grouping or the like -- fine to know.

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Re: [NTG-context] paragraphs indented from line 2 on

2006-04-23 Thread Karsten Heymann
Hans Hagen wrote:
> \setuphead[section][indentnext=first]

Oh, I should have known that by now ...

Thanks Hans, I'll add it to the wiki.

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt + asymptote

2006-04-23 Thread Sanjoy Mahajan
> To integrate asymptote to ConTeXt, what is needed (from the ConTeXt
> pov I mean) ?

I'm curious about that too.  I'm just going through my asymptote diffs
(against v0.99) for it to work with plain TeX, and I'm not sure any of
my changes will make it easier to integrate with ConTeXt the way MP is
integrated.  It's depressing how wedded asymptote is to LaTeX, and
maybe it's impossible to get it all out (e.g. it uses \minipage and
\fontsize).

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Re: [NTG-context] Table width trouble

2006-04-23 Thread nico
On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 18:28:20 +0200, Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> nico wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I come back with that damn table test case. With release 2006.04.22:  
>> [...]
>>
>>
> \long\def\dohandleTBLcellA#1#2[#3]#4%

Thanks, it does it. Another torture case: when column widths are partially  
defined, it can give a weird result (here the last column has almost  
disppeared). Since it's a limit case, I don't know if it's worth being  
fixed.

\bTABLE[frame=on]
\setupTABLE[c][2][width=3em]
\setupTABLE[c][3][width=3em]
\bTR \bTD[nc=2] A \eTD\bTD x \eTD \bTD[nc=2] B \eTD \eTR
\bTR \bTD X \eTD \bTD[nc=3] C \eTD \bTD x \eTD \eTR
\bTR \bTD[nc=2] D \eTD \bTD x \eTD \bTD[nc=2] E \eTD \eTR
\eTABLE

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt + asymptote

2006-04-23 Thread Renaud AUBIN




Hans Hagen a écrit :

  i meant the 'hard coded parts' but then, i must admit that i never saw any real asymptote code -) 

Hans 
  

Since asymptote uses gs to generate eps or pdf output, I wander if the
generated code can be used by ConTeXt...
To integrate asymptote to ConTeXt, what is needed (from the ConTeXt pov
I mean) ? I ask that because I don't know ConTeXt internals well...
What's the integration scheme for a MPgraphic for example ? (I know
that ConTeXt finally use a .mp and a .mpx)
I assume after reading a .log that a ps file is needed... but it seems
that a "font name mngt" is needed too...

Renaud


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[NTG-context] update

2006-04-23 Thread Hans Hagen
Hi,

i'll upload a version that

- supports some more TABLE width situations (earlier patch)
- fixes the background problem (please test)
- hopefully fixes the n=0 footnote problems
- fixes a seldom occuring secction head problem (years old)

for practical purposes this is a current and not a beta (i need to 
generate minimals for a project tomorrow)

Hans


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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt + asymptote

2006-04-23 Thread Hans Hagen
Renaud AUBIN wrote:
> Hans Hagen a écrit :
>> no, what is needed is an isolation of the tex part, so that the macro 
>> package has/can to implement certain 'features'; otherwise it's 
>> unmaintainable 
>>
>> Hans 
>>   
> euh... The isolation of the tex part is performed for LaTeX with 
> inlinetex option... (an eps file without any text + a tex file)
> Isn't this kind of isolation sufficient ?
i meant the 'hard coded parts' but then, i must admit that i never saw any real 
asymptote code -) 

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Re: [NTG-context] textbackground exceeds its scope

2006-04-23 Thread Hans Hagen
Aditya Mahajan wrote:
> Thank you. This takes care of it.
>   
i adapted the textbackground macros as well as the mp code to catch the border 
case (this whole background stuff is rather tricky code) 

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Re: [NTG-context] textbackground exceeds its scope

2006-04-23 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Sun, 23 Apr 2006, Hans Hagen wrote:

> Aditya Mahajan wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>>  I have encountered a really strange bug in textbackground.
>> Occasionally, textbackground colors the whole page instead of just the
>> text between \starttextbackground and \stoptextbackground. This
>> happens only when I am using module mag-01 and have
>> \setuptyping[style=\ttx\setupinterlinespace] set.
>> Attached is the minimal example that I could make.
>>
>> Tested with beta
>> ConTeXt  ver: 2006.04.18 22:36  fmt: 2006.4.23  int: english  mes:
>> english
>>
>> For this test, ConTeXt  ver: 2006.04.10 20:04  fmt: 2006.4.23  does
>> not give any problem, but similar problem occurs at some other place.
>> If it is important, I can try to make a minimal file to reproduce the
>> problem with latest stable release.
> there is a dangling line of the background due to a break
>
> \def\ShowExample
>  {\startexample
> \nobreak
> \typebuffer
>   \stopexample
>   \getbuffer}

Thank you. This takes care of it.

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Re: [NTG-context] textbackground exceeds its scope

2006-04-23 Thread Hans Hagen
Aditya Mahajan wrote:
> Hi,
>
>  I have encountered a really strange bug in textbackground. 
> Occasionally, textbackground colors the whole page instead of just the 
> text between \starttextbackground and \stoptextbackground. This 
> happens only when I am using module mag-01 and have
> \setuptyping[style=\ttx\setupinterlinespace] set.
> Attached is the minimal example that I could make.
>
> Tested with beta
> ConTeXt  ver: 2006.04.18 22:36  fmt: 2006.4.23  int: english  mes: 
> english
>
> For this test, ConTeXt  ver: 2006.04.10 20:04  fmt: 2006.4.23  does 
> not give any problem, but similar problem occurs at some other place. 
> If it is important, I can try to make a minimal file to reproduce the 
> problem with latest stable release.
there is a dangling line of the background due to a break

\def\ShowExample
  {\startexample
 \nobreak
 \typebuffer
   \stopexample
   \getbuffer}


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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt + asymptote

2006-04-23 Thread Renaud AUBIN




Hans Hagen a écrit :

  no, what is needed is an isolation of the tex part, so that the macro package has/can to implement certain 'features'; otherwise it's unmaintainable 

Hans 
  

euh... The isolation of the tex part is performed for LaTeX with
inlinetex option... (an eps file without any text + a tex file)
Isn't this kind of isolation sufficient ?

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt + asymptote

2006-04-23 Thread Hans Hagen
Renaud AUBIN wrote:
> asy -inlinetex results in:
> - an eps graphics
> - latex code to use (I've not checked but seems) with asymptote.sty
>
> So, we can maybe imagine an -inlinecontext option to add asymptote 
> support in context (???)
no, what is needed is an isolation of the tex part, so that the macro package 
has/can to implement certain 'features'; otherwise it's unmaintainable 

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt + asymptote

2006-04-23 Thread Renaud AUBIN




asy -inlinetex results in:
- an eps graphics
- latex code to use (I've not checked but seems) with asymptote.sty

So, we can maybe imagine an -inlinecontext option to add asymptote
support in context (???)

Hans Hagen a écrit :

  Renaud AUBIN wrote:
  
  
Ok, but how to deal with asymptote like with metapost.
For example, if I produce a pdf with asymptote (with embed fonts) and use this pdf into my ConTeXt document with the same fonts... Is the fonts included twice ? I assume that this is the case...
Maybe it could be interesting to "integrate" asymptote.

I don't know how hard it is at all... It's only an idea...
  

  
  it depends, if asymptote outputs a parsable format ...

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Re: [NTG-context] TABLE: 'distance' override?

2006-04-23 Thread Hans Hagen
Johannes Graumann wrote:
> When coding a table in LaTeX with 'booktabs' as the one shown in
> http://www.idyll.org:8081/JohSite/context/table1.jpg/view, booktabs mainly
>   
but that's a typical example of a \begintable ... \endtable kind of table

(a quick hack into TABLE is to use backgrounds drawn by mp (which is 
what we do when we need to make real fancy ones with shaded and colors 
and whatever)

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Re: [NTG-context] TABLE: 'distance' override?

2006-04-23 Thread Hans Hagen
Johannes Graumann wrote:
> 1) possibility to have top- and bottomframe formated independently
> (different width - top heavy, bottom light; one continuous, one interrupted
> (see 2.))
>   
maybe in the future, when we have a bigger tex (would slow down the core 
\framed to much and as a result many other aspects of context)

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[NTG-context] textbackground exceeds its scope

2006-04-23 Thread Aditya Mahajan

Hi,

 I have encountered a really strange bug in textbackground. 
Occasionally, textbackground colors the whole page instead of just the 
text between \starttextbackground and \stoptextbackground. This 
happens only when I am using module mag-01 and have

\setuptyping[style=\ttx\setupinterlinespace] set.
Attached is the minimal example that I could make.

Tested with beta
ConTeXt  ver: 2006.04.18 22:36  fmt: 2006.4.23  int: english  mes: english

For this test, ConTeXt  ver: 2006.04.10 20:04  fmt: 2006.4.23  does 
not give any problem, but similar problem occurs at some other place. 
If it is important, I can try to make a minimal file to reproduce the 
problem with latest stable release.


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Re: [NTG-context] Putting things over a figure

2006-04-23 Thread Hans Hagen
nico wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I need a mechanism with which I can put several things (text, image) at a  
> precise position over a figure. The position is expressed in percentage  
> (x,y) of the figure dimensions. The lower-left corner is (0,0).
>   
> I did the following that works for my own needs, but maybe a higher level  
> interface (layer?) could do the same. Any comment or improvement is  
>   
i'd go for layers
> welcome.
>
>
> \newdimen\overfigwd
> \newdimen\overfight
>
> % Put the figure and define the x/y percentage factor for the calspairs.
> \def\startoverfig
>{\dodoubleempty\dostartoverfig}
>
> \def\dostartoverfig[#1][#2]%
>{\bgroup
> \setbox\scratchbox\hbox{\externalfigure[#1][#2]}%
> \overfigwd=\wd\scratchbox
> \overfight=\ht\scratchbox
> \setuppositioning[unit=pt,
>   xfactor=\withoutpt\the\dimexpr(\overfigwd/100),
>   yfactor=\withoutpt\the\dimexpr(\overfight/100)]%
> \startpositioning
>   \position(0,0){\box\scratchbox}}
>
> \def\stopoverfig
>{\stoppositioning\egroup}
>
> % Put (centered) at the position (x%,y%) on the figure.
> % The lower-left corner is (0,0)
> \def\calspair(#1,#2)#3%
>{\setbox0\hbox{#3}%
> \position[xoffset=\dimexpr(-\wd0/2),
>   yoffset=\dimexpr(-\ht0/2)](#1,{\numexpr(100-#2)}){#3}}
>
> %%
>
> \setupcolors[state=start]
>
> \starttext
>
> \startoverfig[duck-small]
>\calspair(0,0){A}
>\calspair(100,100){B}
> \stopoverfig
>
> \startoverfig[duck-small][width=4cm,frame=on]
>\calspair(0,0){A}
>\calspair(100,100){B}
>\calspair(50,50){\framed[background=color,backgroundcolor=green]{Hello}}
> \stopoverfig
>
> \startoverfig[unknown]
>\calspair(30,0){A}
>\calspair(100,100){B}
> \stopoverfig
>
> \stoptext
>
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Re: [NTG-context] paragraphs indented from line 2 on

2006-04-23 Thread Hans Hagen
Karsten Heymann wrote:
> Hans Hagen wrote:
>   
>> \definestartstop
>>   [exdent]
>>   [before={\startnarrower[left]\setupindenting[-\leftskip,yes]},
>>after=\stopnarrower]
>> 
>
>   
\setuphead[section][indentnext=first]

> Can you make the following work too? Adding \indenting[yes] to before=
> doesn't help.
>
> \startexdent
> \section{Test}
> \input tufte \endgraf
> \input tufte \endgraf
> \stopexdent
>
> \stoptext
>
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Re: [NTG-context] paragraphs indented from line 2 on

2006-04-23 Thread Hans Hagen
Karsten Heymann wrote:
>> \definestartstop
>>   [exdent]
>>   [before={\startnarrower[left]\setupindenting[-\leftskip,yes]},
>>after=\stopnarrower]
>> 
>
> Great, works like a charm! By the way: What's the benefit of
> \definestartstop over \def\start..., \def\stop...?
>   
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[NTG-context] Putting things over a figure

2006-04-23 Thread nico
Hello,

I need a mechanism with which I can put several things (text, image) at a  
precise position over a figure. The position is expressed in percentage  
(x,y) of the figure dimensions. The lower-left corner is (0,0).

I did the following that works for my own needs, but maybe a higher level  
interface (layer?) could do the same. Any comment or improvement is  
welcome.


\newdimen\overfigwd
\newdimen\overfight

% Put the figure and define the x/y percentage factor for the calspairs.
\def\startoverfig
   {\dodoubleempty\dostartoverfig}

\def\dostartoverfig[#1][#2]%
   {\bgroup
\setbox\scratchbox\hbox{\externalfigure[#1][#2]}%
\overfigwd=\wd\scratchbox
\overfight=\ht\scratchbox
\setuppositioning[unit=pt,
  xfactor=\withoutpt\the\dimexpr(\overfigwd/100),
  yfactor=\withoutpt\the\dimexpr(\overfight/100)]%
\startpositioning
  \position(0,0){\box\scratchbox}}

\def\stopoverfig
   {\stoppositioning\egroup}

% Put (centered) at the position (x%,y%) on the figure.
% The lower-left corner is (0,0)
\def\calspair(#1,#2)#3%
   {\setbox0\hbox{#3}%
\position[xoffset=\dimexpr(-\wd0/2),
  yoffset=\dimexpr(-\ht0/2)](#1,{\numexpr(100-#2)}){#3}}

%%

\setupcolors[state=start]

\starttext

\startoverfig[duck-small]
   \calspair(0,0){A}
   \calspair(100,100){B}
\stopoverfig

\startoverfig[duck-small][width=4cm,frame=on]
   \calspair(0,0){A}
   \calspair(100,100){B}
   \calspair(50,50){\framed[background=color,backgroundcolor=green]{Hello}}
\stopoverfig

\startoverfig[unknown]
   \calspair(30,0){A}
   \calspair(100,100){B}
\stopoverfig

\stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] paragraphs indented from line 2 on

2006-04-23 Thread Karsten Heymann
Hans Hagen wrote:
> \definestartstop
>   [exdent]
>   [before={\startnarrower[left]\setupindenting[-\leftskip,yes]},
>after=\stopnarrower]

Can you make the following work too? Adding \indenting[yes] to before=
doesn't help.

\startexdent
\section{Test}
\input tufte \endgraf
\input tufte \endgraf
\stopexdent

\stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] paragraphs indented from line 2 on

2006-04-23 Thread Karsten Heymann
Hans Hagen wrote:

> Karsten Heymann wrote:

>> what's the context'ish way of creating a start-stop environment in
>> which each paragraph is indented from the 2nd line on?

> \definestartstop
>   [exdent]
>   [before={\startnarrower[left]\setupindenting[-\leftskip,yes]},
>after=\stopnarrower]

Great, works like a charm! By the way: What's the benefit of
\definestartstop over \def\start..., \def\stop...?

> wikifyable 

instantly.

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Re: [NTG-context] 2c considerations about win installer

2006-04-23 Thread andrea valle
(Hans, I wasn't saying you *have* to do it : I'm already impressed by 
your actual amount of work, it's enough for me :-) )

Best

-a-

On 23 Apr 2006, at 18:12, Hans Hagen wrote:

> andrea valle wrote:
>>> It's staightforward to install standolne-ConTeXt, but not for
>>> beginners and those having almost no knowledge about computers. An
>>> installation .exe would be warmly welcome.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Thanks Mojca, that's exactly what I was thinking.
>>
>>
> i can make an ino base installer once i have
>
> - a faster machine with also more disk space
> - a faster outgoing line (currently 8000/1000)
>
> Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] linenotes/footnotes

2006-04-23 Thread Hans Hagen
Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
> On Apr 22, 2006, at 12:17 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
>
>   
>> hm, can you send me your (small) test file?
>>
>> (make sure that at place time the same settings apply ! so either  
>> use \setupnote or also provide the setting sto \place...
>>
>> Hans
>> 
> Actually, I'm reusing an old testfile you sent some time ago:
>   
i'll post an update with support for notedefinitions in such text notes

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Re: [NTG-context] Feature request: Creating tables from (tab-separated) values

2006-04-23 Thread Taco Hoekwater

Hi,

Here is a quick hack that converts csv to commalist values.
Perhaps it helpful for someone. Documentation blurb:


 This module parses CSV data (somewhat) safely. After

 \def\dataline{a,,\j,a",a\j a",t{f},",",,"a""b"}
 \convertcsvdata\dataline\to \myascii
 \message{\meaning\myascii}

 output is:

 macro:->{a},{},{\j },{a"},{a\j a"},{t{f}},{,},{"},{a"b}

 The result is detokenized, like would be with \type{\convertargument}.
 Therefore, you will need to run \type{\scantokens} over the list
 items if the CVS data was actually \TeX{} code.

Cheers,
Taco


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Re: [NTG-context] TABLE: 'distance' override?

2006-04-23 Thread Johannes Graumann
After sleeping on this I realize that a more mechanistical answer to this 
may be more interesting.
When coding a table in LaTeX with 'booktabs' as the one shown in
http://www.idyll.org:8081/JohSite/context/table1.jpg/view, booktabs mainly
provides the commands '\bottomrule' and '\toprule', creating the heavier
start and end lines. The interrupted lines separating the table header from
the table body are coded explicitly (with a command I'm not sure is even
provided by 'booktabs'): '\cmidrule(r){1-1}\cmidrule(lr){2-2}\cmidrule(l
{3-3}' for a three-columned table. Bottomline is that while with the
distance solution in ConTeXt natural TABLEs the whole table is modified, a
solution like this only modifies the horizontal line targeted - and that
very flexible: the firs '\cmidrule' call anly shortens the rule on the
right ('(r)'), the second one on both sides ('(lr)') and the last one on
the left ('(l)').

In order to emulate my table style with TABLE there would be 4 things
necessary:
1) possibility to have top- and bottomframe formated independently
(different width - top heavy, bottom light; one continuous, one interrupted
(see 2.))
2) a new frame mode ('int'?) which interrupts a 'bottomframe=int' between
table columns with an automatism recognizing whether this is the first or
last column and only shortening the line on the right or left respectively.
3) Booktabs also provides an '\addlinespace' command for groupseparation ...
see separation between first and second body line in
http://www.idyll.org:8081/JohSite/context/table1.jpg/view
4) When defining tables in LaTeX, a definition like [EMAIL PROTECTED]@{}}
yields horizontal lines terminating on the left and right flush with the
table content and not reaching to a column separation border beyond that.

If you wonder where I got all theses crazy ideas ;0):
http://www.tug.org/tex-archive/info/german/tabsatz/tabsatz.pdf by Axel
Reichert is the inspiring document (sorry - German only).

I'm not asking for this to be implemented, but I believe ConTeXt would
benefit from this.

Joh


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> Johannes Graumann wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> In my quest for tables similar to what the 'booktabs' package in LaTeX
>>   
> what does booktab do then
> 
> Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] Feature request: Creating tables from (tab-separated) values

2006-04-23 Thread Peter Münster
On Sun, 23 Apr 2006, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

> Stupid me! I forgot about the following trick
> \uccode`.=`,
> \WORD{3.14}

Great! Could you also get aligncharacter=yes working, that would be nice!
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Re: [NTG-context] 2c considerations about win installer

2006-04-23 Thread Hans Hagen
Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>
> MikTeX developer doesn't listen too much to requests from ConTeXt
> users (although he does a marvellous job with MikTeX otherwise and has
> enough of other things to do). But if I don't count the troubles
> connected with not-so-good-support for ConTeXt in MikTeX, it stil
> remains one of the easiest ways to install and update it.
>   
supporting miktex is not so much a problem but i cannot get multiple 
trees working (config is not flexible enough, more or less hard coded 
paths and so)

if i drown in free time i'll have a further look (newtexexec already 
should be better)

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Re: [NTG-context] Table width trouble

2006-04-23 Thread Hans Hagen
nico wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I come back with that damn table test case. With release 2006.04.22:
>
> - it works fine when the column width is passed as table option,
> - it's wrong when the width is passed via a column setup only,
> - it works ok when both table and column option are passed, and it's the  
> column option that is used (which is the expected behaviour).
> - it's ok when no width specified at all.
>
> \starttext
>
> \startbuffer
> \bTR \bTD[nc=2] A \eTD\bTD x \eTD \bTD[nc=2] B \eTD \eTR
> \bTR \bTD X \eTD \bTD[nc=3] C \eTD \bTD x \eTD \eTR
> \bTR \bTD[nc=2] D \eTD \bTD x \eTD \bTD[nc=2] E \eTD \eTR
> \stopbuffer
>
> % ok
> \bTABLE[frame=on,width=3em]
> \getbuffer
> \eTABLE
>
> % nok, messy table
> \bTABLE[frame=on]
> \setupTABLE[c][each][width=3em]
> \getbuffer
> \eTABLE
>
> % ok, width=3em for each column
> \bTABLE[frame=on,width=0.1pt]
> \setupTABLE[c][each][width=3em]
> \getbuffer
> \eTABLE
>
> % ok
> \bTABLE[frame=on]
> \getbuffer
> \eTABLE
>
> \stoptext
>
>   
\long\def\dohandleTBLcellA#1#2[#3]#4%
  {\bgroup
   \setupTBLcell{#1}{#2}%
   \setbox\scratchbox\hbox
 {\scratchdimen\tbltbldistance\relax
  \ifdim\scratchdimen>\gettbldis{#2}\relax
\settbldis{#2}{\the\scratchdimen}%
  \fi
  \localframed
[\@@tbl\@@tbl]
[#3,\c!background=,\c!frame=\v!off]% 25% faster
{\bTBLCELL\TBLcharalign{#2}{#4}\eTBLCELL\inTBLcell{#1}{#2}}}%
   \scratchdimen\gettblwid\colTBL\relax
   \ifdim\wd\scratchbox>\scratchdimen
 \ifsqueezeTBLspan
   \ifautosqueezeTBLspan
 \doifinsetelse\tbltblwidth{\v!fit,\v!fixed,\v!broad,\v!local}
   \donetrue \donefalse
   \else
 \donetrue
   \fi
   \ifdone
 \ifnum0\number\gettblcol{#1}{#2}>1\relax \settblspn\colTBL \fi
   \fi
 \fi
 \doifelsetblspn\colTBL
   \donothing
   {\ifdim\gettblwid\colTBL<\wd\scratchbox
  \settblwid\colTBL{\the\wd\scratchbox}%
\fi}% auto set
   \fi
   \let\rowTBLx\rowTBL\increment\rowTBLx
   \scratchdimen\gettblhei\rowTBLx\relax
   \ifdim\ht\scratchbox<\scratchdimen
 \settblhei\rowTBLx{\the\ht\scratchbox}% auto set
   \fi
   \settblht{#1}{#2}{\the\ht\scratchbox}%
   \settblwd{#1}{#2}{\the\wd\scratchbox}%
   \ifautoTBLcheckwidth
 \ifdim\wd\scratchbox<.75\hsize
   \ifdim\ht\scratchbox>2\openlineheight % honor width since this
 \scratchdimen\gettblaut\colTBL\relax % can be a figure or so
 \ifdim\scratchdimen=\zeropoint
   % side effect: when width is set to 0pt,
   % we can force a span that fits the sum of spans widths
   \settblaut\colTBL{\the\scratchdimen}%
 \else\ifdim\wd\scratchbox>\scratchdimen
   % unless span
   \settblaut\colTBL{\the\wd\scratchbox}%
   % to be translated
   \writestatus\m!TABLE
 {no auto width in 
(\number#1,\number#2)\space\the\wd\scratchbox/\the\hsize}%
 \fi\fi
   \fi
 \fi
   \fi
   \setbox2\null
   \wd2\wd\scratchbox \ht2\ht\scratchbox \dp2\dp\scratchbox
   \box2
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Re: [NTG-context] paragraphs indented from line 2 on

2006-04-23 Thread Hans Hagen
Karsten Heymann wrote:
> Hello,
>
> what's the context'ish way of creating a start-stop environment in which
> each paragraph is indented from the 2nd line on? As in
>
> %
> \startIndented
> As with all computer languages, ConTeXt is much easier to use when one
> has good documentation.
>
> The official ConTeXt manual is a good place to start; this section
> provides a complement to it, with alternate explanations and examples
> for a number of key subjects, updates describing more recent additions
> to ConTeXt, and detailed solutions to some tricky problems.
> \stopIndented
> %
>
> becomes
>
> %
> As with all computer languages, ConTeXt is much easier to use when one
>has good documentation.
> The official ConTeXt manual is a good place to start; this section
>provides a complement to it, with alternate explanations and examples
>for a number of key subjects, updates describing more recent
>additions to ConTeXt, and detailed solutions to some tricky problems.
> %
>
> Yours,
> Karsten
>   
\starttext

\definestartstop
  [exdent]
  [before={\startnarrower[left]\setupindenting[-\leftskip,yes]},
   after=\stopnarrower]

\startexdent
\input tufte \endgraf
\input tufte \endgraf
\stopexdent

\stoptext

wikifyable 

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Re: [NTG-context] 2c considerations about win installer

2006-04-23 Thread Hans Hagen
andrea valle wrote:
>> It's staightforward to install standolne-ConTeXt, but not for
>> beginners and those having almost no knowledge about computers. An
>> installation .exe would be warmly welcome.
>>
>> 
>
> Thanks Mojca, that's exactly what I was thinking.
>
>   
i can make an ino base installer once i have 

- a faster machine with also more disk space 
- a faster outgoing line (currently 8000/1000) 

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[NTG-context] paragraphs indented from line 2 on

2006-04-23 Thread Karsten Heymann
Hello,

what's the context'ish way of creating a start-stop environment in which
each paragraph is indented from the 2nd line on? As in

%
\startIndented
As with all computer languages, ConTeXt is much easier to use when one
has good documentation.

The official ConTeXt manual is a good place to start; this section
provides a complement to it, with alternate explanations and examples
for a number of key subjects, updates describing more recent additions
to ConTeXt, and detailed solutions to some tricky problems.
\stopIndented
%

becomes

%
As with all computer languages, ConTeXt is much easier to use when one
   has good documentation.
The official ConTeXt manual is a good place to start; this section
   provides a complement to it, with alternate explanations and examples
   for a number of key subjects, updates describing more recent
   additions to ConTeXt, and detailed solutions to some tricky problems.
%

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Re: [NTG-context] mode=*dvi does not work

2006-04-23 Thread Hans Hagen
� wrote:
> Hello,
> it seems that the *dvi-mode is never set:
>
> \starttext
> Test:
> \doifmode{*dvi}{Output is DVI.}
> \doifmode{*pdf}{Output is PDF.}
> \stoptext
>   
you can add:

\setjobsuffix{dvi}

to spec-dvi.tex 

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Re: [NTG-context] 2c considerations about win installer

2006-04-23 Thread andrea valle
>
> It's staightforward to install standolne-ConTeXt, but not for
> beginners and those having almost no knowledge about computers. An
> installation .exe would be warmly welcome.
>

Thanks Mojca, that's exactly what I was thinking.

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Re: [NTG-context] more manuals

2006-04-23 Thread Hans Hagen
Nikolai Weibull wrote:
> On 4/11/06, Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   
>> enattab
>> 
>
> I must say that natural tables have come a long way and seem more
> capable than our other table-implementations now, even without the new
> features you hint at.
>   
but for 'just text' tabulate produces better results (spacing and so) and they 
also break nicer over pages 

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Re: [NTG-context] more manuals

2006-04-23 Thread Hans Hagen
Geert Stappers wrote:
>  Add a URL to a "I uploaded"
>   
>> enattab
>> eppchtex
>> 
this concerned manuals in the cvs repository, not to the pragma site 
(and was mainly meant for those currently playing with new TABLE 
features); sorry for the noise


> What do the documents document?
> Please provide a (short) description of the manuals.
>   
there are descriptions on the web site and in the show-* files (i could 
add the xml files that hold the descriptions to the distribution so that 
whoever wants to can generate whatever needed from them e.g. on the wiki)

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Re: [NTG-context] Feature request: Creating tables from (tab-separated) values

2006-04-23 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On 4/22/06, Peter Münster wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Apr 2006, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>
> > - [with luaTeX in mind] calculating sums of rows & columns & other
> > Excel-like calculations & references accross tables ;) - well, that
> > one wasn't meant seriously.
>
> Hello Mojca,
> should be possible even without luaTeX:
>
> \input realcalc % can be found on CTAN

Thanks for the pointer! I've never used this one so far.

> \def\SumFF{0}
> \def\SumEUR{0}
>
> \def\AddEUR#1{\Radd\SumEUR\SumEUR{#1}%
>   \Rmul\R{#1}{6.55957}\Radd\R\R{0.005}\Rtrunc\R2\R
>   \Radd\SumFF\SumFF\R \bTR \bTD\eTD \bTD#1\eTD \expanded{\bTD\R\eTD} \eTR}
>
> \def\PrintSums{\bTR \bTD Sums: \eTD
>   \bTD\Rtrunc\SumEUR2\SumEUR \SumEUR\eTD
>   \bTD\Rtrunc\SumFF2\SumFF   \SumFF \eTD \eTR}
>
> \starttext
> \setupTABLE[r][each][align=flushright]
> \setupTABLE[r][1][align=middle]
> \bTABLE
> \bTR \bTH\eTH \bTH Euro \eTH \bTH FF \eTH \eTR
> \AddEUR{1.23}
> \AddEUR{2.34}
> \AddEUR{45.67}
> \PrintSums
> \eTABLE
> \stoptext
>
> With LaTeX, you can even replace the . by a , :

Stupid me! I forgot about the following trick
\uccode`.=`,
\WORD{3.14}

(It can be surely done without using \WORD, but that was the easiest
way to recall it from another evil example that Hans sent me some time
ago.)

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[NTG-context] mode=*dvi does not work

2006-04-23 Thread Peter Münster
Hello,
it seems that the *dvi-mode is never set:

\starttext
Test:
\doifmode{*dvi}{Output is DVI.}
\doifmode{*pdf}{Output is PDF.}
\stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] more manuals

2006-04-23 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On 4/23/06, Geert Stappers wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 11, 2006 at 11:08:33PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:
> > Hi,
>
> Hello,
>
> >
> > I uploaded
>
> Mmm, uploaded to where ?

The sources are here:

svn://ctx.pragma-ade.nl/manuals
http://context.aanhet.net/svn/manuals/examples/

The PDF versions of manuals are accesible from
http://www.pragma-ade.com/overview.htm, not from download.

http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/eppchtex.pdf
http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/enattab.pdf (although I
don't find the link to it)

> I did visit http://www.pragma-ade.com/download-1.htm
> and clicked 6 (six) times on 'next'
>
> I also did visit http://www.pragma-ade.com/document-1.htm
> where I clicked on 'all manuals' which did bring me
> to http://www.pragma-ade.com/show-man-1.htm.
> Seeing the "page 1 of 42" made me loose my appetite.
>
> Writing this E-mail inspired me to manaully change the URL
> to http://www.pragma-ade.com/show-man-42.htm
> but still not the fresh uploaded manuals.
>
> In other words:
>
>  Add a URL to a "I uploaded"
>
>
> > enattab
> > eppchtex
>
> What do the documents document?

They're both old manuals, I think that Hans only uploaded the sources.
enattab is about natural tables
(http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Tables_Overview) and eppchtex about
PPCHTeX, chemistry module for drawing formulas.

> Please provide a (short) description of the manuals.

Now that you've found the manuals, please contribute to
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Official_ConTeXt_Documentation ;)

> > esp the nattab manual needs some updating (new features) so if you run
> > into a missing aspect ...
>
>  ...
>
> I think that is another example of
>
>  * you mean what I mean
>  * smart people will find their way, normal people can follow them
>  * I have no time to communicate, your help is welcome
>  *

Well, I would say vice versa: Hans invests enormous amount of time
into implementing most evil user requests. If he "forgot" to mention
the URL, that was surely not intentional. People following the mailing
list did already heard about the svn repository with the sources of
the manual, but I agree that it's impossible to follow the mailing
list unless ConTeXt is your hobby.

Mojca


> > Hans
>
> This E-mail is written with the best intensions,
> but it can be read as offencesive.
> In that case: Shoot the messenger and return to bisness as usual
>
>
> Cheers
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Re: [NTG-context] more manuals

2006-04-23 Thread Nikolai Weibull
On 4/11/06, Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> enattab

I must say that natural tables have come a long way and seem more
capable than our other table-implementations now, even without the new
features you hint at.

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Re: [NTG-context] more manuals

2006-04-23 Thread Geert Stappers
On Tue, Apr 11, 2006 at 11:08:33PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:
> Hi,

Hello,

> 
> I uploaded

Mmm, uploaded to where ?

I did visit http://www.pragma-ade.com/download-1.htm
and clicked 6 (six) times on 'next'

I also did visit http://www.pragma-ade.com/document-1.htm
where I clicked on 'all manuals' which did bring me
to http://www.pragma-ade.com/show-man-1.htm.
Seeing the "page 1 of 42" made me loose my appetite.

Writing this E-mail inspired me to manaully change the URL
to http://www.pragma-ade.com/show-man-42.htm
but still not the fresh uploaded manuals.

In other words:
 
 Add a URL to a "I uploaded"


> enattab
> eppchtex

What do the documents document?
Please provide a (short) description of the manuals.


> esp the nattab manual needs some updating (new features) so if you run 
> into a missing aspect ...

 ... 

I think that is another example of 

 * you mean what I mean
 * smart people will find their way, normal people can follow them
 * I have no time to communicate, your help is welcome
 * 

> Hans

This E-mail is written with the best intensions,
but it can be read as offencesive.
In that case: Shoot the messenger and return to bisness as usual


Cheers
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