Re: [NTG-context] relative scaling for fonts

2006-11-16 Thread Pablo Rodríguez
Hans Hagen wrote:
 Pablo Rodríguez wrote:
 After using \showfontstrip to get fonts with the same x-height by
 calculating the rscale factor, I guess it would be very useful (at least
 for me) to have an option that calculates relative scaling automatically
 to match both x-heights.

 I think it would be a useful option for rscale.
   
 hm, it's not that hard to do, but then the question is: what is the reference 
 font; also, my experience is that an automated scaling in most cases looks as 
 ugly as no scaling; it's a visual thing; the xheight is a factor but the 
 'boldness' too 

The reference font would be the roman font and the automated scaling
with the same x-height might be wrong in some cases, but it is a useful
starting point to start learning for newcomers (like me) how to set the
proper visual scaling factor.

My most common scenario for font scaling is not roman with sansserif or
typewritter, but roman Latin with roman Greek characters and setting the
same x-height for both. And I thought there were fine with the same
x-height for both.

My typographical ability wouldn't let my set other relative scaling
factor other than 1 or the same x-height for both fonts.

Thanks,


Pablo
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Re: [NTG-context] negative indenting

2006-11-16 Thread Pablo Rodríguez
Aditya Mahajan wrote:
 On Wed, 15 Nov 2006, Oliver Buerschaper wrote:
 
 I have set \setupindenting[yes,big,first] and I would like to have all
 paragraphs in a given document with negative indentation.

 AFAIK, first should enable indentation for all paragraphs, but the
 ones after \section, \subsection or \subsubtsection are not indented.
 With exactly the same setting I'm experiencing the same problem ...
 Anyone knows a solution?
 
 \setuphead[section,subsection,subsubsection][indentnext=yes]

Thanks for your answer, Aditya. After I sent the message, I found
somewhere that \setupheads[indentnext=yes] did what I wanted.

If you want negative indenting, use a negative width, like
 
 \setupindenting[-2em,yes]

Sorry, I'm afraid my description was not accurate. I meant pure negative
indenting, but hanging indentation (what you get when you write
\hang\noindenting at the beginning of the paragraph).

Thanks,


Pablo
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Re: [NTG-context] unic-xxx.tex glyph lists: minor bugs, questions

2006-11-16 Thread Philipp Reichmuth
Hans Hagen schrieb:
 hm, will be in the mkiv zip soon (or maybe all mkiv code will be in the 
 main zip; depends on how many context users want to experiment with the 
 declared-stable parts of luatex)

I would.

 But OpenType fonts also work on Linux  Windows.
   
 sure, but one needs this fontconfig thing ;

But at least on Windows that's relatively transparent.  You tell 
fontconfig once where your fonts are (e.g. c:\windows\fonts), and that's 
it, basically.

Philipp

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Re: [NTG-context] relative scaling for fonts

2006-11-16 Thread Hans Hagen
Pablo Rodríguez wrote:
 Hans Hagen wrote:
   
 Pablo Rodríguez wrote:
 
 After using \showfontstrip to get fonts with the same x-height by
 calculating the rscale factor, I guess it would be very useful (at least
 for me) to have an option that calculates relative scaling automatically
 to match both x-heights.

 I think it would be a useful option for rscale.
   
   
 hm, it's not that hard to do, but then the question is: what is the 
 reference font; also, my experience is that an automated scaling in most 
 cases looks as ugly as no scaling; it's a visual thing; the xheight is a 
 factor but the 'boldness' too 
 

 The reference font would be the roman font and the automated scaling
 with the same x-height might be wrong in some cases, but it is a useful
 starting point to start learning for newcomers (like me) how to set the
 proper visual scaling factor.

 My most common scenario for font scaling is not roman with sansserif or
 typewritter, but roman Latin with roman Greek characters and setting the
 same x-height for both. And I thought there were fine with the same
 x-height for both.

 My typographical ability wouldn't let my set other relative scaling
 factor other than 1 or the same x-height for both fonts.

   
Hm. Just typeset fontstrips, scale the doc up/down on the screen and 
find the best visual match. You need to do that only once for a given 
combination of fonts. In most cases i use lm for monospaced and palatino 
for math when combined with other fonts, and my experience is that one 
really need to typeset some text (with e.g. inline verbatim) in order to 
find out what value is best.

The problem is that in that case, we would end up with 4 line 
definitions replaced by 4 line definitions; ok, when we have luatex, we 
can think of some aux macros (\rscaled{fontname}) because then fully 
expandable solutions are possible.

Adam Lindsay made/had plans for predefined typefaces and actually that 
is then the best way to go: predefine interesting combinations of fonts 
with optimized values for relative scaling and ht/dp ratios.

Hans

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[NTG-context] volunteer wanted

2006-11-16 Thread Hans Hagen
Hi,

Is there someone here who wants to check (roughly) the context related 
man pages that ship with tex live? I have a tgz file.

Hans

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[NTG-context] beta - current

2006-11-16 Thread Hans Hagen
Hi,

We've gone current with the beta. Next week there will be release notes 
as well as the formal tex live/collection code freeze.

Apart from the usual bug fixes and extensions, the most noticeable 
change is that from now on there are also mkii files (and mkiv as well 
as lua files for those testing luatex). Next year, when the TeXGyre 
project has released all new base fonts, there will be a switch to using 
these fonts instead of the existing variants, for this release, one has 
to load type-gyr. There has been some organizational changes to the 
metapost inclusion (mptopdf uses supp-pdf, while context itself uses an 
[to be futher] optimized version as a prelude to mkiv conversion).

If you want to know to what extend luatex will influence context, keep 
an eye on the mk.pdf document (or read the coming Maps, TugBoat or other 
user group magazines) which (will) describe some experiments, history 
and usage.

Hans 

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Re: [NTG-context] volunteer wanted

2006-11-16 Thread Sanjoy Mahajan
 Is there someone here who wants to check (roughly) the context related 
 man pages that ship with tex live? I have a tgz file.

Sure.  

Are they to be checked against a reasonably current mkii?

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Re: [NTG-context] How to get a PhD with ConTeXt (+ hard work ;) )

2006-11-16 Thread Renaud AUBIN
Hi Mojca,

Mojca Miklavec a écrit :

textext? Did it work? On my computer it hangs after approximately 13
plots. The suggested option is to use sometxt now.
  

textext works for me, all my plots use this option.

Even better (faster) if you have a compiled version of plots and only
include PDF ;)
  

Ok, but what about font embedding ? I precisely like to proceed the plot
as mp code because of the embedding of fonts...
I explain: when I began ConTeXt, I included plots as pdf from
LaTeX+PStricks and I observed an annoying fact, i.e. the fonts are
embedded twice !
For this reason, when I heard of a context (via mp) term, I tried it...
with success...


Renaud
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Re: [NTG-context] unic-xxx.tex glyph lists: minor bugs, questions

2006-11-16 Thread Hans Hagen
Sanjoy Mahajan wrote:
 Hans Hagen wrote:
   
 depends on how many context users want to experiment with the 
 declared-stable parts of luatex
 

 I'll experiment, especially if I can figure out a set of magic
 kpathsea paths to keep mkii and mkiv in parallel.

   
no need for that ; it is made to run in parallel, just an extra zip with 
mkiv and lua files ending up in base, and luatools.lua ending up in the script 
path; also, mkiv does not use kpse -)  

Hans 

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[NTG-context] Error compiling latest luatext

2006-11-16 Thread luigi scarso
In
luatex-snapshot-20061023
./build.sh   gives
config.status: error: cannot find input file: test/Makefile.in
make: *** [../../libs/zziplib/zzip/.libs/libzzip.a] Error 1

Do I need something ?
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TeXExec 5.2.3 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2004

   texexec : TeXExec 5.2.3 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2004
   texutil : TeXUtil 9.0.0 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1992-2004
   tex : pdfeTeX, 3.141592-1.20a-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.3)
   context : ver: 2005.01.13
   cont-en : ver: 2005.01.13  fmt: 2005.3.7  mes: english
   cont-nl : ver: 2005.01.13  fmt: 2005.8.25  mes: dutch

Linux marcus.logo.net 2.6.8.1-12mdk #1 Fri Oct 1 12:53:41 CEST 2004
i686 Pentium III (Coppermine) unknown GNU/Linux
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Re: [NTG-context] Error compiling latest luatext

2006-11-16 Thread Taco Hoekwater
luigi scarso wrote:
 In
 luatex-snapshot-20061023
 ./build.sh   gives

Can you try the linux-specific build script?
(build.sh.linux)

 config.status: error: cannot find input file: test/Makefile.in
 make: *** [../../libs/zziplib/zzip/.libs/libzzip.a] Error 1
 
 Do I need something ?

No. If it still complains, that is almost certainly a configuration
error caused by my lack of understanding of autoconf, but not
something you actually miss.

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[NTG-context] Problems with texexec pdfarrange

2006-11-16 Thread Marcus Vinicius Mesquita de So
Hello, everybody

In page 8 of the mtexexec manual we can see the following command:

texexec --pdfarrange --paper=A5A4 --print=up  live.pdf

If I try it with a PDF file, for example, 


texexec --pdfarrange --paper=A5A4 --print=up   --print gri.pdf

I get an error message:

! Missing number, treated as zero.
to be read again
   A
\@@ppoffset -A
   5A4
\calculatepaperoffsets ...lue {\??pp #1\c!offset }
  \divide \scratchdimen \arr...
argument ...dth }\fi \calculatepaperoffsets {A4}
  \xdef \papersize {A4}
\firstofoneargument #1-#1

\next1 #1,-\docommand {#1}
   \doprocesscommaitem
...
l.3 \setuplayout

?


Do I miss something?


Greetings

Marcus Vinicius


Details from the command:

D:\contexttexexec --pdfarrange --paper=A5A4 gri.pdf

TeXExec | arranging file gri.pdf
TeXExec | processing document 'texexec'
TeXExec | no ctx file found
TeXExec | tex processing method: context
TeXExec | writing option file texexec.top
TeXExec | using randomseed 761
TeXExec | tex engine: pdftex
TeXExec | tex format: cont-en
TeXExec | progname: context
This is pdfTeX, Version 3.141592-1.40.0-beta-20060213 (Web2c 7.5.5)
 \write18 enabled.
 (d:\context\usr\local\context\tex\texmf-local/web2c/natural.tcx)
entering extended mode
(./texexec.tex

ConTeXt  ver: 2006.11.16 12:02 MK II  fmt: 2006.11.16  int: english/english

language: language en is active
system  : cont-new loaded
(d:\context\usr\local\context\tex\texmf-local/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex
systems : beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.tex
(d:\context\usr\local\context\tex\texmf-local/tex/context/base/cont-new.mkii))
system  : cont-old loaded
(d:\context\usr\local\context\tex\texmf-local/tex/context/base/cont-old.tex
loading : Context Old Macros
)
system  : cont-fil loaded
(d:\context\usr\local\context\tex\texmf-local/tex/context/base/cont-fil.tex
loading : Context File Synonyms
)
system  : cont-sys loaded
(d:\context\usr\local\context\tex\texmf-local/tex/context/user/cont-sys.tex)
bodyfont: 12pt rm is loaded
language: patterns nl-texnansi:texnansi-1-2:3 nl-ec:ec-2-2:3 fr-
texnansi:texnansi-3-2:3 fr-ec:ec-4-2:3 de-texnansi:texnansi-5-2:3 de-e
c:ec-6-2:3 it-texnansi:texnansi-7-2:3 it-ec:ec-8-2:3 pt-texnansi:texna
nsi-9-2:3 pt-ec:ec-10-2:3 hr-ec:ec-11-2:3 pl-pl0:pl0-12-2:3 pl-ec:e
c-13-2:3 pl-qx:qx-14-2:3 cz-il2:il2-15-2:3 cz-ec:ec-16-2:3 sk-il2:i
l2-17-2:3 sk-ec:ec-18-2:3 sl-ec:ec-19-2:3 ru-t2a:t2a-21-2:3 en-ec:e
c-22-2:3 uk-ec:ec-23-2:3 us-ec:ec-24-2:3 agr-agr:agr-25-2:3 da-ec:e
c-26-2:3 sv-ec:ec-27-2:3 af-ec:ec-28-2:3 no-ec:ec-29-2:3 deo-ec:ec-
30-2:3 es-ec:ec-31-2:3 ca-ec:ec-32-2:3 la-ec:ec-33-2:3 ro-ec:ec-34
-2:3 tr-ec:ec-35-2:3 fi-ec:ec-37-2:3 hu-ec:ec-38-2:3 loaded
specials: tex,postscript,rokicki loaded
system  : texexec.top loaded
(./texexec.top
specials: loading definition file tpd
(d:\context\usr\local\context\tex\texmf-local/tex/context/base/spec-tpd.tex
specials: loading definition file fdf
(d:\context\usr\local\context\tex\texmf-local/tex/context/base/spec-fdf.tex
(d:\context\usr\local\context\tex\texmf-local/tex/context/base/spec-fdf.mkii))
specials: fdf loaded
)
specials: fdf,tpd loaded
)
systems : system commands are enabled
! Missing number, treated as zero.
to be read again
   A
\@@ppoffset -A
   5A4
\calculatepaperoffsets ...lue {\??pp #1\c!offset }
  \divide \scratchdimen \arr...
argument ...dth }\fi \calculatepaperoffsets {A4}
  \xdef \papersize {A4}
\firstofoneargument #1-#1

\next1 #1,-\docommand {#1}
   \doprocesscommaitem
...
l.3 \setuplayout

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[NTG-context] Bug in Description?

2006-11-16 Thread Karsten Heymann
Hello,

I need to mimick enumerated lists with descriptions, as the list
labels are passed to
context by an external program. For this I need the text after the
label indented
exactly as far as the following lines. Following the wiki I set
distance=0cm, but this
does not seem to be honored, but setting it to a very small value does
work. So I suppose it's a bug.

Yours,
Karsten

\definedescription[DescA][align=left,location=hanging,width=1cm,margin=1cm,distance=0cm]
\definedescription[DescB][align=left,location=hanging,width=1cm,margin=1cm,distance=0.0001cm]

\starttext
Wrong:
\DescA{1.} \input knuth

\DescA{2.} \input knuth

Right:
\DescB{1.} \input knuth

\DescB{2.} \input knuth

\stoptext
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[NTG-context] Problems with \fillinfield

2006-11-16 Thread Fredrik Sjunnesson
Hi,

PDF fields created with \fillinfield lose their filled in values as soon as 
they lose focus.

I have tried several different documents, including mwidget-s.pdf, with the 
latest Acrobat Reader on both Linux and Windows but I always get the same 
result.

Any others with similar problems?

Regards,
Fredrik
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Re: [NTG-context] Problems with texexec pdfarrange

2006-11-16 Thread Willi Egger
Hi,

In the meantime the paper command option is --paperformat=A4A5.
in my opinion the print command option is --print=2up

Willi

Marcus Vinicius Mesquita de So wrote:
 Hello, everybody

 In page 8 of the mtexexec manual we can see the following command:

 texexec --pdfarrange --paper=A5A4 --print=up  live.pdf

 If I try it with a PDF file, for example,


 texexec --pdfarrange --paper=A5A4 --print=up   --print gri.pdf

 I get an error message:

 ! Missing number, treated as zero.
 to be read again
A
 \@@ppoffset -A
5A4
 \calculatepaperoffsets ...lue {\??pp #1\c!offset }
   \divide 
 \scratchdimen \arr...
 argument ...dth }\fi \calculatepaperoffsets {A4}
   \xdef \papersize {A4}
 \firstofoneargument #1-#1

 \next1 #1,-\docommand {#1}
\doprocesscommaitem
 ...
 l.3 \setuplayout

 ?


 Do I miss something?


 Greetings

 Marcus Vinicius


 Details from the command:

 D:\contexttexexec --pdfarrange --paper=A5A4 gri.pdf

 TeXExec | arranging file gri.pdf
 TeXExec | processing document 'texexec'
 TeXExec | no ctx file found
 TeXExec | tex processing method: context
 TeXExec | writing option file texexec.top
 TeXExec | using randomseed 761
 TeXExec | tex engine: pdftex
 TeXExec | tex format: cont-en
 TeXExec | progname: context
 This is pdfTeX, Version 3.141592-1.40.0-beta-20060213 (Web2c 7.5.5)
  \write18 enabled.
  (d:\context\usr\local\context\tex\texmf-local/web2c/natural.tcx)
 entering extended mode
 (./texexec.tex

 ConTeXt  ver: 2006.11.16 12:02 MK II  fmt: 2006.11.16  int: 
 english/english

 language: language en is active
 system  : cont-new loaded
 (d:\context\usr\local\context\tex\texmf-local/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex
 systems : beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.tex
 (d:\context\usr\local\context\tex\texmf-local/tex/context/base/cont-new.mkii))
 system  : cont-old loaded
 (d:\context\usr\local\context\tex\texmf-local/tex/context/base/cont-old.tex
 loading : Context Old Macros
 )
 system  : cont-fil loaded
 (d:\context\usr\local\context\tex\texmf-local/tex/context/base/cont-fil.tex
 loading : Context File Synonyms
 )
 system  : cont-sys loaded
 (d:\context\usr\local\context\tex\texmf-local/tex/context/user/cont-sys.tex)
 bodyfont: 12pt rm is loaded
 language: patterns nl-texnansi:texnansi-1-2:3 
 nl-ec:ec-2-2:3 fr-
 texnansi:texnansi-3-2:3 fr-ec:ec-4-2:3 
 de-texnansi:texnansi-5-2:3 de-e
 c:ec-6-2:3 it-texnansi:texnansi-7-2:3 it-ec:ec-8-2:3 
 pt-texnansi:texna
 nsi-9-2:3 pt-ec:ec-10-2:3 hr-ec:ec-11-2:3 pl-pl0:pl0-12-2:3 
 pl-ec:e
 c-13-2:3 pl-qx:qx-14-2:3 cz-il2:il2-15-2:3 cz-ec:ec-16-2:3 
 sk-il2:i
 l2-17-2:3 sk-ec:ec-18-2:3 sl-ec:ec-19-2:3 ru-t2a:t2a-21-2:3 
 en-ec:e
 c-22-2:3 uk-ec:ec-23-2:3 us-ec:ec-24-2:3 agr-agr:agr-25-2:3 
 da-ec:e
 c-26-2:3 sv-ec:ec-27-2:3 af-ec:ec-28-2:3 no-ec:ec-29-2:3 
 deo-ec:ec-
 30-2:3 es-ec:ec-31-2:3 ca-ec:ec-32-2:3 la-ec:ec-33-2:3 
 ro-ec:ec-34
 -2:3 tr-ec:ec-35-2:3 fi-ec:ec-37-2:3 hu-ec:ec-38-2:3 loaded
 specials: tex,postscript,rokicki loaded
 system  : texexec.top loaded
 (./texexec.top
 specials: loading definition file tpd
 (d:\context\usr\local\context\tex\texmf-local/tex/context/base/spec-tpd.tex
 specials: loading definition file fdf
 (d:\context\usr\local\context\tex\texmf-local/tex/context/base/spec-fdf.tex
 (d:\context\usr\local\context\tex\texmf-local/tex/context/base/spec-fdf.mkii))
 specials: fdf loaded
 )
 specials: fdf,tpd loaded
 )
 systems : system commands are enabled
 ! Missing number, treated as zero.
 to be read again
A
 \@@ppoffset -A
5A4
 \calculatepaperoffsets ...lue {\??pp #1\c!offset }
   \divide 
 \scratchdimen \arr...
 argument ...dth }\fi \calculatepaperoffsets {A4}
   \xdef \papersize {A4}
 \firstofoneargument #1-#1

 \next1 #1,-\docommand {#1}
\doprocesscommaitem
 ...
 l.3 \setuplayout

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Re: [NTG-context] Problems with texexec pdfarrange

2006-11-16 Thread Sanjoy Mahajan
 in my opinion the print command option is --print=2up

It shouldn't matter (2up vs up).  The tex.rb script has this:

case getvariable('printformat')
when '' then arrangement  \\v!normal
when /.*up/oi   then arrangement  [2UP,\\v!rotated]
when /.*down/oi then arrangement  [2DOWN,\\v!rotated]
when /.*side/oi then arrangement  [2SIDE,\\v!rotated]
end

So --printformat looks whether 'up', 'down', or 'side' is given as the
key and then chooses 2UP, 2DOWN, or 2SIDE accordingly.

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Re: [NTG-context] Problems with texexec pdfarrange

2006-11-16 Thread Sanjoy Mahajan
 texexec --pdfarrange --paper=A5A4 --print=up  live.pdf

It needs to be given as '--paperformat'.  I'm pretty sure '--paper'
gets disambiguated as --paperoffset, so ConTeXt looks for a dimension
but gets A5A4, and then complains about a missing number.

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Re: [NTG-context] postponed block and headers

2006-11-16 Thread Paul Jones

Below is somewhat of a silly example, but it does show the problem I am
experiencing.  It looks like the commands inside of the postponing block can
not effect the headers.  Is this a bug or am I doing something wrong?  The
only way I have been able to change the headers is to place a \page[blank]
at the beginning of my postponed block, but then there are no headers for
the rest of the document. Basically I just want there to be no headers on
any page where I postpone a block.  Any help would be much appreciated

\setuppagenumbering[conversion=numbers, location=]
\setupheadertexts[pagenumber]
\setuphead[chapter][header=high, footer=high]

\startpostponing[+2]
\chapter{Chapter with header}
\stoppostponing

\starttext
\chapter{Chapter no header}
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paul
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