Re: [NTG-context] xetext-pdftex differences

2007-04-12 Thread Steffen Wolfrum
On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 19:22:39 +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:

 luatex itself has still the pdftex machinery around, so you can use map 
 files to handle things when you use for instance type one fonts.


Does this mean for document with different fonts 
I will be able to use my good old mapfiles like

pads8r  AGaramond-Semibold   TeXBase1Encoding ReEncodeFont 8r.enc 
pads8a.pfb
...

and also an opentype fonts like 

DecoTypeNaskh.ttf

together in one ConTeXt document, typeset with luatex?


Steffen 
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Re: [NTG-context] xetext-pdftex differences

2007-04-12 Thread Steffen Wolfrum
On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 17:44:18 +0200, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
 You should try to get uc working if possible, but you need to add
 some definitions from my previous mail. If you want to stick with
 texnansi, you should better use pdfTeX.

I have a document with German as the main language, defined ...

\usetypescriptfile[type-gyr]
\usetypescript[times][texnansi]
\mainlanguage[de]
\setupbodyfont[times,10pt] 

... and inserted Arabic quotes in Arabic AlBayan.ttf, defined  ...

\font\geeza=AlBayan at 10pt


That's why it's typeset with XeTeX. But nevertheless texnansi for TeXGyreTermes 
seems to be fine (at least for now).


Thank you,

Steffen
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[NTG-context] Grid-keeping list (again)

2007-04-12 Thread Johannes Kuester
Hello,

I'm still trying to typeset a grid-keeping list (or table).
Wolfgang Schuster supplied me off-list with the attached module.
This works fine except for one problem:

Only the first few lines are placed on the grid, then the grid is lost.

After the next pass (i.e. after the next texmfstart texexec testfile),
some more lines are placed on the grid.
(So I need many passes to typeset the complete list correctly).

Why? Any idea?

(I fiddled around with \synchronizegrid, \placeongrid, \moveongrid, and
\startlinecorrection \stoplinecorrection, but none of these seems to work.)

You could try the effect with the following example:

%%

\setuplayout[grid=yes, columns=2]
\showgrid
%\showstruts

\usemodule[gridlist]

\starttext

\startcolumns[n=2, balance=no]
%% (columns are not necessary to show the effect)

\dorecurse{20}{
  \zeichen{0001}{a}{first letter}{}%
  \zeichen{0002}{b}{second letter}{}%
  \zeichen{0002}{c}{third letter, this one has a longer entry
which needs more than one line}{}%
}

\stopcolumns

\stoptext

%%


(This should result in an annotated list of mathematical symbols,
showing the Unicode number, the math symbol, and some explanation (and
where the explanation could need more than one line); quite similar to
the list I published in Detailtypografie (2nd ed. 2004), but for
another -- quite pressing -- project.)


Johannes

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\startmodule[gridlist]

\unprotect

\def\ze{ze} % ZEichen

\newcount\zeichencolumn

\def\setupzeichen
  {\dodoubleempty\dosetupzeichen}

\def\dosetupzeichen[#1][#2]%
  {\ifsecondargument
 \dodosetupzeichen[#1][#2]
   \else
 \dodosetupzeichen[\v!line][#1]
   \fi}

\def\dodosetupzeichen[#1][#2]%
  {\def\docommand##1%
{\getparameters[\ze##1][#2]}
   \processcommalist[#1]\docommand}

\def\zeichenparameter#1%
  {\csname
 \ifcsname\ze\number\zeichencolumn#1\endcsname
   \ze\number\zeichencolumn
 \else
   \ze\v!line
 \fi
   #1\endcsname}

\definehspace[myindent][10pt]

\def\startunisym%
  {\bgroup%
   \setbox\scratchbox\hbox\bgroup}

\def\stopunisym%
  {\egroup%
   \raise.3ex\hbox{\box\scratchbox}
   \egroup}

\def\zeichen%
  {\ignorespaces\permitspacesbetweengroups
   \doquadruplegroupempty\dozeichen}

\def\dozeichen#1#2#3#4%
  {\begingroup
   \zeichenparameter\c!before
   \zeichencolumn\zerocount
   \hbox\!!to\zeichenparameter\c!textwidth
 {\zeichenzelle{#1}%
  \zeichenzelle{#2}%
  \hfill
  \zeichenzelle{#3}}%
   \zeichenparameter\c!after
   \endgroup}


\def\zeichenzelle#1%
  {\advance\zeichencolumn\plusone
   \hbox
 {\vtop
{\hsize\zeichenparameter\c!width
 \zeichenparameter\c!before
 \begstrut
   \dostartattributes{\ze\number\zeichencolumn}\c!style\c!color
   \zeichenparameter\c!left
 #1
   \zeichenparameter\c!right
   \dostopattributes
 \endstrut
 \zeichenparameter\c!after}}}

\setupzeichen
  [\c!textwidth=63.8833mm,%
   \c!before=\noindenting\synchronizegrid,%
   \c!after=\synchronizegrid,%
  ]

\setupzeichen
  [1,2,3,4]
  [\c!before=,
   \c!after=,
   \c!left=,
   \c!right=]

\setupzeichen
  [1]
  [\c!width=6.5mm,
   \c!left=\startunisym,
   \c!right=\stopunisym,
   \c!align=right,
   \c!before=\raggedright,
   \c!after=,   
   \c!style={\switchtobodyfont[6.8pt]\tt\bf}]

\setupzeichen
  [2]
  [\c!width=7.5mm,
   \c!left=$,
   \c!right=$,
   \c!before=\raggedcenter,
   \c!style={\switchtobodyfont[9.6pt]}]

\setupzeichen
  [3]
  [\c!width=49.883mm,
   \c!style={\switchtobodyfont[8.4pt]},
   \c!before=\hangindent10pt\hangafter1\raggedright]

\protect 
\stopmodule
\endinput
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Re: [NTG-context] Change the size of publication list

2007-04-12 Thread Taco Hoekwater


Aditya Mahajan wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I want to change the font size of the list of publications to \small. 
 This needs to be done in the style file. But I could not find any 
 option to do this in the bib module. What is the correct way to do 
 this?

Good question. Looks like I inadvertedly removed the beforeafter
functionality at some point :-(


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Re: [NTG-context] Grid-keeping list (again)

2007-04-12 Thread luigi scarso
On 4/12/07, Johannes Kuester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,

 I'm still trying to typeset a grid-keeping list (or table).
Sorry, no answer.
Only to say that I'm following this subject, and I'm doing some private tests.
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Re: [NTG-context] error in meta-txt.tex

2007-04-12 Thread luigi scarso
On 4/12/07, Vit Zyka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Hans,

 there is an error in meta-txt.tex:
 instead of
   \includeMPgraphic{followtokens}
 should be something like
   \includeMPgraphic{followtokens}\relax
 otherwise we get
   icture pic[]; ...
 in .mp file
[OT]
Hi Vit, too bad that we didn't met at Epen.
Maybe next time...

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[NTG-context] error in meta-txt.tex

2007-04-12 Thread Vit Zyka
Hi Hans,

there is an error in meta-txt.tex:
instead of
  \includeMPgraphic{followtokens}
should be something like
  \includeMPgraphic{followtokens}\relax
otherwise we get
  icture pic[]; ...
in .mp file

Vit

Test file:
-
\starttext

\useMPlibrary[txt]
\startuseMPgraphic{followtokens}
   path P, RotPath, C;
   C:= fullcircle scaled 10cm;
   draw C withpen pencircle scaled 0pt;
   P:= fullcircle scaled 11.3cm;
   RotPath:= subpath (3.25,4.5) of P;
\stopuseMPgraphic
\hbox{\followtokens{Text along the arc.}}

\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] xetext-pdftex differences

2007-04-12 Thread Hans Hagen
Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
 On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 19:22:39 +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:

   
 luatex itself has still the pdftex machinery around, so you can use map 
 files to handle things when you use for instance type one fonts.
 


 Does this mean for document with different fonts 
 I will be able to use my good old mapfiles like

 pads8r  AGaramond-Semibold   TeXBase1Encoding ReEncodeFont 8r.enc 
 pads8a.pfb
 

 and also an opentype fonts like 

 DecoTypeNaskh.ttf

 together in one ConTeXt document, typeset with luatex?
   
indeed

- pads8r is a rather dump tfm file, so that goes through the normal tex 
machinery
- DecoTypeNaskh.ttf is an open type font and can be used directly 

\definefont[whatever][DecoTypeNaskh] 

should be enough


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Re: [NTG-context] error in meta-txt.tex

2007-04-12 Thread Vit Zyka
luigi scarso wrote:
 On 4/12/07, Vit Zyka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Hans,

 there is an error in meta-txt.tex:
 instead of
   \includeMPgraphic{followtokens}
 should be something like
   \includeMPgraphic{followtokens}\relax
 otherwise we get
   icture pic[]; ...
 in .mp file
 [OT]
 Hi Vit, too bad that we didn't met at Epen.
 Maybe next time...
 
 luigi

Hi Luigi,

yes it is a pity, I believe it will be very interesting meeting. But I 
spent by travelling South America first three months of this year and 
now it is the time to catch up my job duty.

So, may be next time. Enjoy Epen
Vit


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Re: [NTG-context] Grid-keeping list (again)

2007-04-12 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

2007/4/12, Johannes Kuester [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


Hello,

I'm still trying to typeset a grid-keeping list (or table).
Wolfgang Schuster supplied me off-list with the attached module.
This works fine except for one problem:

Only the first few lines are placed on the grid, then the grid is lost.

After the next pass (i.e. after the next texmfstart texexec testfile),
some more lines are placed on the grid.
(So I need many passes to typeset the complete list correctly).

Why? Any idea?

(I fiddled around with \synchronizegrid, \placeongrid, \moveongrid, and
\startlinecorrection \stoplinecorrection, but none of these seems to
work.)

You could try the effect with the following example:

%%

\setuplayout[grid=yes, columns=2]
\showgrid
%\showstruts

\usemodule[gridlist]

\starttext

\startcolumns[n=2, balance=no]
%% (columns are not necessary to show the effect)

\dorecurse{20}{
  \zeichen{0001}{a}{first letter}{}%
  \zeichen{0002}{b}{second letter}{}%
  \zeichen{0002}{c}{third letter, this one has a longer entry
which needs more than one line}{}%
}

\stopcolumns

\stoptext



Hi Johannes,

replace the current definition of \zeichenzelle with the following:

\def\zeichenzelle#1%
 {\advance\zeichencolumn\plusone
  \hbox
{\vtop
   {\hsize\zeichenparameter\c!width
\normalbaselines
\zeichenparameter\c!before
\begstrut
  \dostartattributes{\ze\number\zeichencolumn}\c!style\c!color
  \zeichenparameter\c!left
#1
  \zeichenparameter\c!right
  \dostopattributes
\endstrut
\zeichenparameter\c!after}}}

\synchronizegrid in \setupzeichen is not neccessary

\setupzeichen
 [\c!textwidth=63.8833mm,
  \c!before=\noindenting, %\synchronizegrid,
  \c!after=, %\synchronizegrid
 ]

add the next two commands to your module

\def\startzeichen{\begingroup\offinterlineskip}
\def\stopzeichen{\endgroup}

a alternative version

%\def\startzeichen{\offinterlineskip}
%\def\stopzeichen{\oninterlineskip}

and put \startzeichen and \stopzeichen before and after your lines
with all \zeichen commands

\startzeichen
\zeichen
...
\zeichen
\stopzeichen

and everything should work as expected

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Re: [NTG-context] Grid-keeping list (again)

2007-04-12 Thread Johannes Kuester
luigi scarso wrote:
 On 4/12/07, Johannes Kuester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,

 I'm still trying to typeset a grid-keeping list (or table).
 Sorry, no answer.
 Only to say that I'm following this subject, and I'm doing some private tests.

Thank you! I hope you will be more successful than I am.

I do not understand why this is such a problem. Basically, it's just
about paragraph boxes and their proper alignment on a grid.

To me, such a list seems like a basic typographic requirement, so it
should be possible to do that in ConTeXt.


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Re: [NTG-context] Grid-keeping list (again)

2007-04-12 Thread Hans Hagen
Johannes Kuester wrote:
 luigi scarso wrote:
   
 On 4/12/07, Johannes Kuester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hello,

 I'm still trying to typeset a grid-keeping list (or table).
   
 Sorry, no answer.
 Only to say that I'm following this subject, and I'm doing some private 
 tests.
 

 Thank you! I hope you will be more successful than I am.

 I do not understand why this is such a problem. Basically, it's just
 about paragraph boxes and their proper alignment on a grid.

 To me, such a list seems like a basic typographic requirement, so it
 should be possible to do that in ConTeXt.
   
the problem with tex is that it does not hav ea way to force consistent height 
and depth of lines, so here are a few tricks: 
 
\begstrut some text \endstrut \endgraf 

\snaptogrid\vbox{some text} 


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Re: [NTG-context] Grid-keeping list (again)

2007-04-12 Thread Johannes Kuester
Hi Wolfgang,

perfect, now everything works as expected!
Thank you!

Johannes

Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
 Hi Johannes,
 
 replace the current definition of \zeichenzelle with the following:
 
 \def\zeichenzelle#1%
   {\advance\zeichencolumn\plusone
\hbox
  {\vtop
 {\hsize\zeichenparameter\c!width
  \normalbaselines
  \zeichenparameter\c!before
  \begstrut
\dostartattributes{\ze\number\zeichencolumn}\c!style\c!color
\zeichenparameter\c!left
  #1
\zeichenparameter\c!right
\dostopattributes
  \endstrut
  \zeichenparameter\c!after}}}
 
 \synchronizegrid in \setupzeichen is not neccessary
 
 \setupzeichen
   [\c!textwidth=63.8833mm,
\c!before=\noindenting, %\synchronizegrid,
\c!after=, %\synchronizegrid
   ]
 
 add the next two commands to your module
 
 \def\startzeichen{\begingroup\offinterlineskip}
 \def\stopzeichen{\endgroup}
 
 a alternative version
 
 %\def\startzeichen{\offinterlineskip}
 %\def\stopzeichen{\oninterlineskip}
 
 and put \startzeichen and \stopzeichen before and after your lines
 with all \zeichen commands
 
 \startzeichen
 \zeichen
 ...
 \zeichen
 \stopzeichen
 
 and everything should work as expected
 
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Re: [NTG-context] xetext-pdftex differences

2007-04-12 Thread Steffen Wolfrum
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 12:46:51 +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:
 Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
 On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 17:44:18 +0200, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
   
 You should try to get uc working if possible, but you need to add
 some definitions from my previous mail. If you want to stick with
 texnansi, you should better use pdfTeX.
 
 
 I have a document with German as the main language, defined ...
 
 \usetypescriptfile[type-gyr]
 \usetypescript[times][texnansi]
 \mainlanguage[de]
 \setupbodyfont[times,10pt] 
 
  and inserted Arabic quotes in Arabic AlBayan.ttf, defined  ...
 
 \font\geeza=AlBayan at 10pt
 
 
 That's why it's typeset with XeTeX. But nevertheless texnansi for 
 TeXGyreTermes seems to be fine (at least for now).
   
 technically one can define a virtual font which uses TeXGyreTermes as 
 base, but has additional glyphs taken from AlBayan; I do have 
 experimental code for that but have to cook up an interface (not that 
 hard, i only need time and motivation) ...


No no, stop!!! Don't do it the hard way. 

ConTeXt has already such handy ways to fulfill my needs.
Switching between the two fonts is perfectly fine for me. 

Thank you, Steffen.
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Re: [NTG-context] Grid-keeping list (again)

2007-04-12 Thread luigi scarso
 the problem with tex is that it does not hav ea way to force consistent 
 height and depth of lines.
yes, it'true.
And this is why I'm so involved.
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Re: [NTG-context] Change the size of publication list

2007-04-12 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007, Taco Hoekwater wrote:



 Aditya Mahajan wrote:
 Hi,

 I want to change the font size of the list of publications to \small.
 This needs to be done in the style file. But I could not find any
 option to do this in the bib module. What is the correct way to do
 this?

 Good question. Looks like I inadvertedly removed the beforeafter
 functionality at some point :-(

For the moment, I am abusing initializepublist, mainly because it 
resets some options in \setuplist[pub] and I am against a hard 
deadline. This is my bib setup for IEEE style (well atleast in terms 
of font and spacing, the actual formatting of enteries will have to 
wait) bibliography. There is some spurious white space between 
enteries, and as a temp hack, I use \vskip -0.5\baselineskip. I will 
debug more carefully over the weekend and send you a bibl-ieee.tex


\setuppublications
   [alternative=num,monthconversion=month,sorttype=bib]
\setupbibtex  [sort=author]
\setuppublicationlist [maybeyear=off]
\setuppublicationlist
   [numbercommand=\withbrackets,margin=1em,distance=1em,width=fit]
\setuppublicationlist
   [before={\vskip -0.5\baselineskip},after=,inbetween=]
\setupcite  [num] [compress=yes]

\def\initializepubslist
   {\switchtobodyfont[small]
\setupinterlinespace
\setupwhitespace[none]
\vskip 0.5\baselineskip}

% Defined in bibl-num.tex
\def\withbrackets#1{[#1]}

\unprotect
\def\doverysimplebibnumref#1#2%
{\refsep
 \ifcase#1\relax \unknownreference{#1}\else
   \def\tempa{#2}\ifx\empty\tempa#1\else#1\docommaordash{#1}{#2}#2\fi
 \fi}

\def\docommaordash#1#2%
{\doifelse{\the\numexpr#1+1-#2\relax}{0}
  {\bibalternative\c!pubsep}
  {\bibalternative\c!inbetween}}

\protect


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[NTG-context] Killing the space after a section.

2007-04-12 Thread John R. Culleton
I have the file set up with no parindent and one blank line between 
paragraphs. but I want to kill the extra space after \section 
headers.  The current definition is:
\setuphead[section][number=no,style=\SectSans,page=no,after={\vskip 
2sp}]

...but the blank line remains.  Do I need to use a negative \vskip? 

\SectSans is a font I set up (bold, sans serif and slightly larger. ) 
If there is a way to specify both bold and sans serif at a larger 
(e.g. \tfb) size I would be happy to use that instead.

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[NTG-context] Can I use OpenType fonts with ConTeXt on Windows right now

2007-04-12 Thread Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
Hello,

Thanks a lot for people who replied to my OpenType in Windows
topic. I have learned a lot about perspectives, but...
can someone make it clear -- CAN I use OpenType fonts with
ConTeXt on Windows right NOW (without conversion to other formats),
and, if possible, what I have to do to achieve it?

Thanks.

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Re: [NTG-context] Can I use OpenType fonts with ConTe Xt on Windows right now

2007-04-12 Thread Paul Schalck
An easy way to test OpenType fonts with Context/Xetex from scratch under 
Windows (XP):

1. Get Texlive 2007

2. Install the Context collection with the Texlive Manager (Xetex is included)

3. Create a little test file:

\enableregime[utf]

\definetypeface[myface][ss][Xsans][Arial]%or any else font in your 
/windows/fonts folder; run fc-list namelist.txt to get them all
\setupbodyfont[myface, 12pt]

\starttext
Hello World!
\stoptext

4. Run texexec --xtx test.tex


Sources:
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Fonts_in_XeTeX
http://www.fsci.fuk.kindai.ac.jp/kakuto/win32-ptex/web2c75-e.html
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Re: [NTG-context] Killing the space after a section.

2007-04-12 Thread luigi scarso
 \SectSans is a font I set up (bold, sans serif and slightly larger. )
 If there is a way to specify both bold and sans serif at a larger
 (e.g. \tfb) size I would be happy to use that instead.
hmm, maybe
\ssbfb


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Re: [NTG-context] Grid-keeping list (again)

2007-04-12 Thread luigi scarso
hmm maibe i have not understand, but
 \startcolumns[n=2, balance=no]
 %% (columns are not necessary to show the effect)

 \dorecurse{20}{
   \zeichen{0001}{a}{first letter}{}%

   \zeichen{0002}{b}{second letter}{}%
\zeichen{0002}{b}{second letter \vrule width 0.1pt height 1em depth2em }{}%
%% or this
%%  \zeichen{0002}{b}{second letter \blank Mlg() }{}%


 \stopcolumns
 the list I published in Detailtypografie (2nd ed. 2004), but for

breaks the rule.

Or not ?

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Re: [NTG-context] Killing the space after a section.

2007-04-12 Thread luigi scarso
On 4/12/07, John R. Culleton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have the file set up with no parindent and one blank line between
 paragraphs. but I want to kill the extra space after \section
 headers.  The current definition is:
 \setuphead[section][number=no,style=\SectSans,page=no,after={\vskip
 2sp}]

 ...but the blank line remains.  Do I need to use a negative \vskip?
not an answer (sorry). But try this

\setuphead[section][style={\ssbfb},
  before={\begingroup\ruledvbox\bgroup},
after={\egroup\endgroup}]
\starttext
\section{Foo} foo baa
\section{gMoo()} gMoo
\stoptext


luigi
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[NTG-context] broken section number

2007-04-12 Thread Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini
Hallo!

I need help with referencing a subsubsection-number
and the following setup:
---
\setuphead[chapter][number=no]
\setuphead[subsection][resetnumber=no]
\setuphead[subsubsection][
  numbercommand={\determineheadnumber[section]\currentheadnumber .}]
\setupsection[section][previousnumber=no,conversion=Romannumerals]
\setupsection[subsection][previousnumber=no,conversion=Characters]
\setupsection[subsubsection][previousnumber=no]

\starttext
\section{Eins}
\subsection{Zuerst}
\subsubsection{Test}
\subsubsection[LAB]{Test}
\subsubsection{Test}
\subsection{Danach}
\subsubsection{Test}
\subsubsection{Test}
\section{Zwei}
\subsection{Und dann}
\subsubsection{Test}
In \in[LAB] %  problem
\stoptext
---
The numbering of the subsub's is prefixed (arabic, not roman) and 
reset by the section-number (not the subsection-number). This works.

The problem is, that section-number-prefix is not used for the 
reference. 

What is the solution?

Btw. I have not found any explanations for the 'prefix' and the 
'ownnumber' options. Where can I read and learn about these options?

Wolfgang
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