[NTG-context] Latest Context version

[WN]

Hi,

I was looking on the Context Wiki and Pragma to check whether
the Context version I am using is still up to date.
I am using Context version 2007.06.06 09:53.

But on Pragma in the download area the main Context distribution has
a date/timestamp 2007-04-17 14:03. On the Context Wiki on the Release
Notes page it also mentions Context 2007.04.17.

How can I have a newer Context version, which apparently does not exist ?

Kind regards
Wim




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Re: [NTG-context] frames and hyphenation

[Wolfgang Schuster]

2007/6/29, Hans van der Meer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Well, it nearly always helps to put a problem to this newsgroup. It helps
> you concentrate better!
> The solution was simply, though not obvious at first.
> It should not haven been "before=\nohyphens" but "top=\nohyphens".

better

align=nothyphenated

Wolfgang

> On Jun 29, 2007, at 19:25, Hans van der Meer wrote:
> I encountered some strange thing with framedtext's in trying to define one
> where hyphenation is suppressed. The definition is:
> \defineframedtext[myblock][frame=off,style=\tt,width=0.8\makeupwidth,before=\nohyphens]
>
> But then \startmyblock text \stopmyblock does not stop hyphenation.
> While \startmyblock\nohyphens text \stopmyblock stops it.
> Since I would like to have the myblock's all having suppressed hyphenation I
> am at a loss how to do it. Could it be that the \nohyphens in the "before"
> is overriden by something? It looks like, because setting lefthyphenmin and
> righthyphenmin zero at that point did not work either.
> By the way it is a bit difficult to give an exact example, because
> hyphenation so much depends on ones linesize and font dimensions.
>
> Hans van der Meer
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Re: [NTG-context] fancyhdr equivalent

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Mon, 2 Jul 2007, Peter I. Hansen wrote:

> On 7/1/07, Aditya Mahajan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>> On Sun, 1 Jul 2007, Peter I. Hansen wrote:
>> 
>> > Hello
>> >
>> > Just getting started with ConTeXt, and liking it so far :)
>> >
>> > However, I would like to use something similar to the LaTeX 'fancyhdr'
>> > package. I've been poking around trying to find such a thing and the
>> closest
>> > I could get is:
>> >
>> > http://osdir.com/ml/tex.context/2001-10/msg00094.html
>> >
>> > I can't find it in the manual, so if it is built in maybe one of you
>> guys
>> > can tell how to use it?
>> 
>> Look at Section 4.17 of ConTeXt manual
>> 
>
>
> What I would like to do is for example to frame the headertext, and I tried
> with eg.
>
> \setupheadertexts  [chapter][pagenumber]
> \setupheader [style=\inframed]
>
> But this creates a framed chapter text and a framed pagenumber. How do I put
> both in one frame?
>

\setupbackgrounds  [header][text][frame=on]

To get a decent visual effect, you need to set the header height to be 
something reasonable, for example

\setuplayout[header=2\lineheight]

Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] Itemize problem

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Mon, 2 Jul 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> To Aditya
>
>> It is possible that this change caused your existing setup to break.
>> Can you create a minimum example that exhibits the problem? Start with
>> Patrick's example, and start adding lines from your setup, so that the
>> problem reappears. That may help in figuring out if it is something
>> wrong in your setup, or a bug.
>
> I already provide a minimum example. Patrick just used my example on
> Context live where it works. On my system with the latest Context it does
> not.
>
> In addition, what could be wrong with my setup ? The setup
> is all Context and nothing special and the setup
> I am using, did not give me problems in the past.
> I will try to debug but I think it must be a bug with the latest Context.

Can you send the log file that you get with

\tracingmacros 2
\starttext
\startitemize[n]
\item one
\item two
\stopitemize
\stoptext

Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] Itemize problem

[w . neimeijer]

To Aditya

>It is possible that this change caused your existing setup to break.
>Can you create a minimum example that exhibits the problem? Start with
>Patrick's example, and start adding lines from your setup, so that the
>problem reappears. That may help in figuring out if it is something
>wrong in your setup, or a bug.

I already provide a minimum example. Patrick just used my example on
Context live where it works. On my system with the latest Context it does
not.

In addition, what could be wrong with my setup ? The setup
is all Context and nothing special and the setup
I am using, did not give me problems in the past.
I will try to debug but I think it must be a bug with the latest Context.

Kind regards
Wim





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Re: [NTG-context] fancyhdr equivalent

[Peter I. Hansen]

On 7/1/07, Aditya Mahajan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On Sun, 1 Jul 2007, Peter I. Hansen wrote:

> Hello
>
> Just getting started with ConTeXt, and liking it so far :)
>
> However, I would like to use something similar to the LaTeX 'fancyhdr'
> package. I've been poking around trying to find such a thing and the
closest
> I could get is:
>
> http://osdir.com/ml/tex.context/2001-10/msg00094.html
>
> I can't find it in the manual, so if it is built in maybe one of you
guys
> can tell how to use it?

Look at Section 4.17 of ConTeXt manual




What I would like to do is for example to frame the headertext, and I tried
with eg.

\setupheadertexts  [chapter][pagenumber]
\setupheader [style=\inframed]

But this creates a framed chapter text and a framed pagenumber. How do I put
both in one frame?
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Re: [NTG-context] Itemize problem

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Sun, 1 Jul 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Patrick et al,
>
> I also tried it on live.contextgarden.net and there it works fine.
> But not with my Context.
>
> I have some definitions but they did not change for more than 6 months,
> and comparing my setups with some of my backups, nothing has changed.
> The only change is that I updated Context with ctxtools --update from the
> Scite menu.
>
> I don't know which of my definitions or setups could cause this. I
> am not using \setupitemize. I hope someone can help.

There was some changes in itemize code recently. Hans added 
`reverse' option, so that

\startitemize[n,reverse]
  \item one
  \item two
  \item three
\stopitemize

gives
3. one
2. two
1. three

It is possible that this change caused your existing setup to break.
Can you create a minimum example that exhibits the problem? Start with 
Patrick's example, and start adding lines from your setup, so that the 
problem reappears. That may help in figuring out if it is something 
wrong in your setup, or a bug.

Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] Itemize problem

[w . neimeijer]

Patrick et al,

I also tried it on live.contextgarden.net and there it works fine.
But not with my Context.

I have some definitions but they did not change for more than 6 months,
and comparing my setups with some of my backups, nothing has changed.
The only change is that I updated Context with ctxtools --update from the
Scite menu.

I don't know which of my definitions or setups could cause this. I
am not using \setupitemize. I hope someone can help.

Kind regards
Wim



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Re: [NTG-context] graphic combinations captions

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Sun, 1 Jul 2007, Steffen Fritzsche wrote:

> Hallo,
>
> I have got a problem with my the captions of my graphic combinations.
> How can I adjust the font-size of the caption which goes under each
> graphic? Problem is, that my general graphic caption is a smaller
> font-size ... the detail captions seem to use the default document
> font-size.
>
> for placing the graphics I use following code ...
>
> \placefigure
>   [here][fig:test1]
>   {test1 label}
>   {
>   \startcombination[2*1]
>   {\externalfigure[leftTest]}{left test label}
>   {\externalfigure[rightTest]}{right test label}
>   \stopcombination
>   }
>
>
> My captions are formatted with this command ...
>
> \setupcaptions [way=bytext, align=left, style={\switchtobodyfont[8pt]}]

Also add
  \setupcombinations[style={\switchtobodyfont[8pt]}]

Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] fancyhdr equivalent

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Sun, 1 Jul 2007, Peter I. Hansen wrote:

> Hello
>
> Just getting started with ConTeXt, and liking it so far :)
>
> However, I would like to use something similar to the LaTeX 'fancyhdr'
> package. I've been poking around trying to find such a thing and the closest
> I could get is:
>
> http://osdir.com/ml/tex.context/2001-10/msg00094.html
>
> I can't find it in the manual, so if it is built in maybe one of you guys
> can tell how to use it?

Look at Section 4.17 of ConTeXt manual 


Aditya
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[NTG-context] graphic combinations captions

[Steffen Fritzsche]

Hallo,

I have got a problem with my the captions of my graphic combinations. 
How can I adjust the font-size of the caption which goes under each 
graphic? Problem is, that my general graphic caption is a smaller 
font-size ... the detail captions seem to use the default document 
font-size.

for placing the graphics I use following code ...

\placefigure
[here][fig:test1]
{test1 label}
{
\startcombination[2*1]
{\externalfigure[leftTest]}{left test label}
{\externalfigure[rightTest]}{right test label}
\stopcombination
}


My captions are formatted with this command ...

\setupcaptions [way=bytext, align=left, style={\switchtobodyfont[8pt]}]

Thanks for your help!

Steffen
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[NTG-context] fancyhdr equivalent

[Peter I. Hansen]

Hello

Just getting started with ConTeXt, and liking it so far :)

However, I would like to use something similar to the LaTeX 'fancyhdr'
package. I've been poking around trying to find such a thing and the closest
I could get is:

http://osdir.com/ml/tex.context/2001-10/msg00094.html

I can't find it in the manual, so if it is built in maybe one of you guys
can tell how to use it?

Thanks, Peter
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Re: [NTG-context] Itemize problem

[Patrick Gundlach]

Hello Wim,

> When I use
> \startitemize[n]
> \item One
> \item Two
> \stopitemize
>
> the list starts at 0 (zero) instead of 1 (one)

\starttext
\startitemize[n]
\item One
\item Two
\stopitemize
\stoptext


Are you sure about this? I've just tried the above in
live.contextgarden.net and the result looks fine. Perhaps you have
some other interfering definitions in your source?


Patrick
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[NTG-context] Itemize problem

[w . neimeijer]

Hi,

When I use
\startitemize[n]
\item One
\item Two
\stopitemize

the list starts at 0 (zero) instead of 1 (one)

I am using the standalone Windows version
ConTeXt  ver: 2007.06.26 23:21 MKII  fmt: 2007.7.1  int: english/english

Kind regards
Wim


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Re: [NTG-context] Latest Context version ?

[Patrick Gundlach]

Hello Wim,

> I was looking on the Context Wiki and Pragma to check whether
> the Context version I am using is still up to date.
> I am using Context version 2007.06.06 09:53.
>
> But on Pragma in the download area the main Context distribution has
> a date/timestamp 2007-04-17 14:03. On the Context Wiki on the Release
> Notes page it also mentions Context 2007.04.17.


As a side note: live.contextgarden.net has always the latest beta
installed and you can see which version it uses.

Patrick
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Re: [NTG-context] columns/blank=

[Patrick Gundlach]

Hello Wolfgang,

probably I didn't understand your answer correctly. I was wondering
_why_ the ctxparskip has to be > 0pt for setupwhitespace to take
effect.

Patrick

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Re: [NTG-context] chapter names in header

[Patrick Gundlach]

Hello Wolfgang,

> it is not neccessary to write chapter and section in the headers, you
> can use ConTeXts predefined labeletexts for them.

> \setuplabeltext[en][chapter=Chapter ]
> \setuplabeltext[en][section=Section ]

Although not strictly related to my question - thanks for the reminder
of \setuplabeltext. It will come in handy for a manual I am currently
writing.

Patrick
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Re: [NTG-context] chapter names in header

[Patrick Gundlach]

Hello Peter,

>> what is wrong with 
>> 
>> --
>> \setuppagenumbering[location=]
>> \starttext 
>> \setupheadertexts[text][section][chapter]
>> \dorecurse{8}{\chapter{chapter - \recurselevel}
>   \expanded{\chapter }
>
> look at the *.tui file for the unexpanded case.

Duh! Of course!

Thanks,

Patrick
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Re: [NTG-context] \overleftrightarrow

[Hans Hagen]

Mojca Miklavec wrote:

> But to sum up: I really like your patch, and I vote for its inclusion.
> (The most annoying problem is stil open though.)

don't worry, since Aditya is now mostly responsible for the math stuff 
in context, the patches will be integrated when he thinks they're ok, 
unless of course this was a personal patch for you -)


Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] columns/blank=

[Wolfgang Schuster]

On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 20:01:11 +0200
Patrick Gundlach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> what is the rationale behind
> 
>\setupblank[\@@klblank]%
>\ifdim\ctxparskip>\zeropoint\relax
>  \setupwhitespace[\@@klblank]%
>\fi
> 
> in page-mul.tex (columns)? It seems to me that blank=line inside a
> startcolumn does not work if ctxparskip = 0pt, which is the default.
> So when I'd like to have setupwhitespace[line] to get paragraphs
> separated by blank lines inside a column, I have to do this some other
> way?!?
> 
> Patrick

Hi Patrick,

both setups are indpendent from the other one, they use only the same
value inside columns.

1. \setupblank[\@@klblank]%

   use the value from \setupcolumns[blank=..] for every simple blank
   command inside columns. The default value for blank is line and
   this value is used. You can use other value like small, big or
   dimen without problems with a complex blank.
   
   simple blank: \blank
   complex blank: \blank[small|dimen|...]

2. \ifdim\ctxparskip>\zeropoint\relax
 \setupwhitespace[\@@klblank]%
   \fi

   look if the user has set parskip, if the answer is yes overwrite the
   global value from the user and use the local value for columns.
   The local comes also from the columns key \setupcolumns[blank=...]

   You can change the parskip value inside columns either with
   \setupcolumns[blank=...] or you write \setupwhitespace[...] after
   \startcolumns.


A testfile would also help, you see I set parskip to ConTeXts small
value but I get a line in columns.

\showgrid
\setupwhitespace[small]

\starttext

\startcolumns
\input knuth

\input knuth
\blank
\input knuth
\stopcolumns

text\par
text

\stoptext


Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Latest Context version ?

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Sun, 1 Jul 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I was looking on the Context Wiki and Pragma to check whether
> the Context version I am using is still up to date.
> I am using Context version 2007.06.06 09:53.
>
> But on Pragma in the download area the main Context distribution has
> a date/timestamp 2007-04-17 14:03. On the Context Wiki on the Release
> Notes page it also mentions Context 2007.04.17.
>
> How can I have a newer Context version, which apparently does not exist ?

You have a beta version of ConTeXt. If you update context using 
ctxtools --update, you get the latest beta version. Usually beta 
version is pretty stable, but occasionally there are some bugs. 
Basically, whenever someone requests a feature, Hans implements it and 
uploads a beta, so that it is easier for others to test the code. The 
beta is also available from pragma's website. The wiki does not say 
give details of each beta, as that would be a LOT of work.

Aditya
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[NTG-context] Latest Context version ?

[w . neimeijer]

Hi,

I was looking on the Context Wiki and Pragma to check whether
the Context version I am using is still up to date.
I am using Context version 2007.06.06 09:53.

But on Pragma in the download area the main Context distribution has
a date/timestamp 2007-04-17 14:03. On the Context Wiki on the Release
Notes page it also mentions Context 2007.04.17.

How can I have a newer Context version, which apparently does not exist ?

Kind regards
Wim


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Re: [NTG-context] chapter names in header

[Wolfgang Schuster]

On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 18:30:59 +0200
Patrick Gundlach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> what is wrong with 
> 
> --
> \setuppagenumbering[location=]
> \starttext 
> \setupheadertexts[text][section][chapter]
> \dorecurse{8}{\chapter{chapter - \recurselevel}
> \input tufte
> \dorecurse{8}{\section {section - \recurselevel}
> \input knuth
> 
> \input knuth
> }
> }
> \stoptext

Hi Patrick,

it is not neccessary to write chapter and section in the headers, you
can use ConTeXts predefined labeletexts for them.

\setuplabeltext[en][chapter=Chapter ]
\setuplabeltext[en][section=Section ]

\starttext 

\chapter{Text}

\section{Text}

\stoptext

Wolfgang
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