Re: [NTG-context] encoding/compiling issues (macosx)

2007-10-10 Thread Andrea Valle

Hi to all,
So, no clues?
Being it a fresh install we really do not know what to do...we're  
getting bored of those little black squares...:-)


Thanks

Best
-a-



On 8 Oct 2007, at 16:05, Andrea Valle wrote:


Thanks Wolfgang,


Can you send e example to the list.


http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/misc/

01_etc: the pdf from which we copied and pasted
andreaConTeXt: compiled with XeConTeXt (fine)
env_etc: the env (we're using a project structure). We have tested  
both with and without the \enableregime[utf]

miriamConTeXt: here we have black boxes
miriamXeTeX: here we loose accents
prd/pro: just for the record, the structure files
semiotiche: the bib files we refer to
source: the tex source


More:
We can't do
ctxtools --updatecontext
it complaint it cannot fetch the zip


you can download the zip-file from pragma-ade.nl or one of the  
mirrors

on unzip the file in your local tex tree


Thanks (but why cannot I?)


Differences:
1. I am on macbook pro, she's on macbook (both on 2007 intel)
2. I'm using the English version of the macosx system, she's  
using the

Italian one.


shouldn't be a problem


I guest so too

Best

-a-


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I did this interview where I just mentioned that I read Foucault.  
Who doesn't in university, right? I was in this strip club giving  
this guy a lap dance and all he wanted to do was to discuss  
Foucault with me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance,  
or I can discuss Foucault, but not at the same time; too much  
information.

(Annabel Chong)




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I did this interview where I just mentioned that I read Foucault. Who  
doesn't in university, right? I was in this strip club giving this  
guy a lap dance and all he wanted to do was to discuss Foucault with  
me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance, or I can discuss  
Foucault, but not at the same time; too much information.

(Annabel Chong)




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Re: [NTG-context] need help with creating a grid with context

2007-10-10 Thread Peter Rolf
Hi Peter,

MASON Peter J schrieb:
 I'm trying to layout a grid of bullets. The results isn't the expected
 one. Perhaps someone could offer help here? Thanks.
 
 Here's the sort of thing I'm doing 
 
 \setuplayout[leftmargin=0pt, leftmargindistance=0pt, backspace=0pt,
 rightmargin=0pt, rightmargindistance=0pt, cutspace=0pt, width=middle,
 topspace=0pt, header=0pt, headerdistance=0pt, footer=0pt,
 footerdistance=0pt, bottomspace=0pt, height=middle]
 
 %\showlayout
 
 \starttext
 \setuppositioning[unit=cm]
 \startpositioning
 \newcount\Row
 
 \Row= 0
 \loop
 {
   ^^
 \newcount\Col
 
 ^^
 \Col = 0
 \loop
 \position(\Col, \Row) {$\bullet$}
 \ifnum\Col  14
 \advance\Col by 1
 \repeat
 }
   ^^
 \ifnum\Row  36
 \advance\Row by 1
 \repeat
 \stoppositioning
 \stoptext

You introduce spurious spaces (line break sometimes adds a space) in
you loops. See

http://tug.ctan.org/tex-archive/info/texbytopic/

if you want to learn more about it.


\starttext
\setuppositioning[unit=cm]
\startpositioning
\newcount\Row
\newcount\Col

\Row=0
\dorecurse{36}
  {\Col=0
   \dorecurse{14}
 {\position(\Col,\Row){$\bullet$}
  \advance\Col by 1
 }%
   \advance\Row by 1
  }
\stoppositioning
\stoptext


Remove the comment sign behind the inner loop and see what happens.

Also see

http://wiki.contextgarden.net/System_Macros/Loops_and_Recursion

for the nicer ConTeXt loop macros.


Best wishes, Peter

  
 
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Re: [NTG-context] encoding/compiling issues (macosx)

2007-10-10 Thread Lutz Haseloff
Hi Andrea,

2007/10/10, Andrea Valle [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hi to all,So, no clues?Being it a fresh install we really do not know what
 to do...we're getting bored of those little black squares...:-)


I  corrected wrong characters in source.tex like following:

Semiotica duale anzitutto peché le due distinte origini moderne, da Charles

S. Peirce e da Ferdinand de Saussure, hanno determinato due distinte
tradizioni,

to

Semiotica duale anzitutto perché le due distinte origini moderne, da Charles

S. Peirce e da Ferdinand de Saussure, hanno determinato due distinte
tradizioni,

(In an Unicode enabled Editor like Scite there is a difference between é
and é)

and there were no black boxes in the output of luatex.

I could send you the source and the resulting pdf offlist


Thanks

 Best
 -a-



 On 8 Oct 2007, at 16:05, Andrea Valle wrote:

 More:
 We can't do
 ctxtools --updatecontext
 it complaint it cannot fetch the zip


 you can download the zip-file from pragma-ade.nl or one of the mirrors
 on unzip the file in your local tex tree


 Thanks (but why cannot I?)

 Ifyou use a proxy you can try:
ctxtools --updatecontext --proxy=10.213.10.254
(assuming proxy port is 80)

Greetings Lutz
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[NTG-context] [Fwd: [Fontforge-devel] ORA pro nobis]

2007-10-10 Thread Taco Hoekwater

I assume some of you may be interested in this book as well.

Best wishes, Taco

 Original Message 
Subject: [Fontforge-devel] ORA pro nobis
Date: 09 Oct 2007 12:57:06 -0700
From: George Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Organization: FontForge
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

O'Reilly  Associates has finally shipped the English translation of
Yannis Haralambous's
 Fonts  Encodings

It has a large section of FontForge, though I fear it may be a bit out
of date by now.


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Re: [NTG-context] need help with creating a grid with context

2007-10-10 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On 10/10/07, MASON Peter J wrote:

 Hope to create a regular (1cm spacing) grid on page, of bullets. Ultimately
 over the whole page.

Why not using MetaPost?

\starttext
\startMPcode % or \startMPpage
for i=0 upto 10:
   for j=0 upto 20:
  fill fullcircle scaled 1mm shifted ((i,j) scaled 1cm);
   endfor;
endfor;
\stopMPcode
\stoptext

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] -- PHISHING CONTENT DETECTED-- -- DANGEROUS CONTENT DISARMED -- Re: encoding/compiling issues (macosx)

2007-10-10 Thread Andrea Valle

Ah

thanks a lot, didn't think about that (well, I wasn't aware at all  
that there could be two glyphs for the e.g. accented e)

I'll start a string replacement strategy.

Many thanks.
Best

-a-

On 10 Oct 2007, at 11:06, Lutz Haseloff wrote:


Hi Andrea,

2007/10/10, Andrea Valle [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi to all,
So, no clues?
Being it a fresh install we really do not know what to do...we're  
getting bored of those little black squares...:-)


I  corrected wrong characters in source.tex like following:

Semiotica duale anzitutto peché le due distinte origini moderne,  
da Charles
S. Peirce e da Ferdinand de Saussure, hanno determinato due  
distinte tradizioni,


to

Semiotica duale anzitutto perché le due distinte origini moderne,  
da Charles
S. Peirce e da Ferdinand de Saussure, hanno determinato due  
distinte tradizioni,


(In an Unicode enabled Editor like Scite there is a difference  
between é and é)


and there were no black boxes in the output of luatex.

I could send you the source and the resulting pdf offlist


Thanks

Best
-a-



On 8 Oct 2007, at 16:05, Andrea Valle wrote:


More:
We can't do
ctxtools --updatecontext
it complaint it cannot fetch the zip


you can download the zip-file from pragma-ade.nl or one of the  
mirrors

on unzip the file in your local tex tree


Thanks (but why cannot I?)


Ifyou use a proxy you can try:
ctxtools --updatecontext --proxy=The Virus/Spam/Threat Scanner of  
the computer Science Department - University of Turin - warning:  
numerical links are often malicious: 10.213.10.254

(assuming proxy port is 80)

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I did this interview where I just mentioned that I read Foucault. Who  
doesn't in university, right? I was in this strip club giving this  
guy a lap dance and all he wanted to do was to discuss Foucault with  
me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance, or I can discuss  
Foucault, but not at the same time; too much information.

(Annabel Chong)



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[NTG-context] debian: itemize start=0

2007-10-10 Thread plink
Hi,

on debian testing this small file

\starttext

\startitemize[n]
\item one
\item two
\stopitemize

blahblah

\startitemize[n,continue]
\item three
\stopitemize

\stoptext

gives an itemization that starts at zero, plus the continue does not 
work either (context version: 2007.09.28 16:52 
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/context.tex)).

Any hints or preliminary solutions greatly appreciated.


P.Link
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[NTG-context] problem with alignment

2007-10-10 Thread Jean Magnan de Bornier
Hi all,
Playing with right alignments this morning, I discovered that

\setupalign
[left]

 ipsum in  elit

Duis placerat

nec augue 


puts text *on the right*, while 

\setupalign
[right]

 ipsum in  elit

Duis placerat

nec augue 


puts text *on the left*.

The \startalignment[left] and  \startalignment[right] commands produce the same 
inversion.
(The \rightaligned command works as expected) 
 
...
12:32 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /home/jean % texexec --version
TeXExec | version 6.2.0 - 1997-2006 - PRAGMA ADE/POD
...

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Re: [NTG-context] set headings in the margins

2007-10-10 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
2007/10/9, Aric Bills [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Thanks Wolfgang--your solution does just what I needed.  I'll study it.

 Best regards,
 Aric

 (Apologies if I've sent my reply improperly)

Hi Aric,

you should also take a look at the columnset machanism and his manual.

I don't know if it is possible to extent the header in the margin but it
supports spanning headers over multiple columns.

http://pragma-ade.nl/general/manuals/columns.pdf

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Re: [NTG-context] problem with alignment

2007-10-10 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
2007/10/10, Jean Magnan de Bornier [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi all,
 Playing with right alignments this morning, I discovered that

 \setupalign
 [left]

  ipsum in  elit

 Duis placerat

 nec augue


 puts text *on the right*, while

 \setupalign
 [right]

  ipsum in  elit

 Duis placerat

 nec augue


 puts text *on the left*.

 The \startalignment[left] and  \startalignment[right] commands produce the 
 same inversion.
 (The \rightaligned command works as expected)

 ...
 12:32 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /home/jean % texexec --version
 TeXExec | version 6.2.0 - 1997-2006 - PRAGMA ADE/POD
 ...

 --
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Hi Jean,

the bevahiour from setupalign is normal and come from the \raggeright
definition in plain TeX, it is fixed and can not be fixed beause of backward
compatibility.

The alignment commands on the other side are newer commands
and fix this old behaviour, you run in this problem also with the align keys
in the setups for many commands and environments.

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] need help with creating a grid with context

2007-10-10 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
2007/10/10, Mojca Miklavec [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On 10/10/07, MASON Peter J wrote:

  Hope to create a regular (1cm spacing) grid on page, of bullets. Ultimately
  over the whole page.

 Why not using MetaPost?

 \starttext
 \startMPcode % or \startMPpage
 for i=0 upto 10:
   for j=0 upto 20:
  fill fullcircle scaled 1mm shifted ((i,j) scaled 1cm);
   endfor;
 endfor;
 \stopMPcode
 \stoptext

 Mojca

Because TeX is faster in this situation and it takes more time to write
the Metapost code in external file, process this file, convert it into a PDF
file and include it into the document etc.

I know what I say because this was one of the reasons why the sgf module
place the field within TeX and not with Metapost, a matter of speed and you
can reuse the objects.

You should also replace the fullcircle with drawdot in your example, drawdot
renders better on screen and looks better.

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] problem with alignment

2007-10-10 Thread Hans Hagen
Jean Magnan de Bornier wrote:
 Hi all,
 Playing with right alignments this morning, I discovered that
 
 \setupalign
 [left]
 
  ipsum in  elit
 
 Duis placerat
 
 nec augue 
 
 
 puts text *on the right*, while 
 
 \setupalign
 [right]
 
  ipsum in  elit
 
 Duis placerat
 
 nec augue 
 
 
 puts text *on the left*.

raggedleft -)

use flushright or flushleft if you like that more


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Re: [NTG-context] Hiding PDF-Layer

2007-10-10 Thread Peter Rolf
Wolfgang Schuster schrieb:
 2007/10/9, Peter Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi Wolfgang,

 Wolfgang Schuster schrieb:
 Hi,

 I want to include PDF layers in document and the should be hidden by 
 default,
 the current behaviour is to show all layers I defined in my document and 
 this
 should be later by the user and not when I open the file.

 The following shortened example from the modules show what I mean,
 the text Text can be seen when you open the document but it should
 appear only if you press the VIDE button.

 \starttext

 \setupinteraction[state=start]

 \defineproperty[L1][layer][title=layer 1]
   ^^
[title={layer 1}, state=stop]

 should work.

 Best wishes, Peter

 \button{HIDE   L1}[HideLayer{L1}]
 \button{VIDE   L1}[VideLayer{L1}]

 \midaligned
   {\definedfont[Mono at 150pt]%
\startproperty[L1]
TEST
\stopproperty}

 \stoptext

 Wolfgang
 
 Hi Peter,
 
 this did work but you can omit the braces around title 1,
 you need them only if you have brackets in the title.

Hi Wolfgang,

Please allow an old man to emphasize a text block by putting it into
braces. This way it is easier for me to recognize ;)

Greetings, Peter

 Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Hiding PDF-Layer

2007-10-10 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
 Hi Wolfgang,

 Please allow an old man to emphasize a text block by putting it into
 braces. This way it is easier for me to recognize ;)

 Greetings, Peter

Hi Peter,

this wasn't meant as a critique for you and I accept the style of other
people for macros and setups but I was for a moment in my this can
be done also in this way mode after I was forced to gave comments
on ConTeXt by private mail to a few other TeX users.

Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] -- PHISHING CONTENT DETECTED-- -- DANGEROUS CONTENT DISARMED -- Re: Re: encoding/compiling issues (macosx)

2007-10-10 Thread Andrea Valle

No way with replacement.
This is consistent with my experience on my machine where the  
original source file compiles with no errors.

It's Miriam's install which seems to be buggy.


Thanks

Best

-a-


On 10 Oct 2007, at 12:11, Andrea Valle wrote:


Ah

thanks a lot, didn't think about that (well, I wasn't aware at all  
that there could be two glyphs for the e.g. accented e)

I'll start a string replacement strategy.

Many thanks.
Best

-a-

On 10 Oct 2007, at 11:06, Lutz Haseloff wrote:


Hi Andrea,

2007/10/10, Andrea Valle [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi to all,
So, no clues?
Being it a fresh install we really do not know what to do...we're  
getting bored of those little black squares...:-)


I  corrected wrong characters in source.tex like following:

Semiotica duale anzitutto peché le due distinte origini moderne,  
da Charles
S. Peirce e da Ferdinand de Saussure, hanno determinato due  
distinte tradizioni,


to

Semiotica duale anzitutto perché le due distinte origini moderne,  
da Charles
S. Peirce e da Ferdinand de Saussure, hanno determinato due  
distinte tradizioni,


(In an Unicode enabled Editor like Scite there is a difference  
between é and é)


and there were no black boxes in the output of luatex.

I could send you the source and the resulting pdf offlist


Thanks

Best
-a-



On 8 Oct 2007, at 16:05, Andrea Valle wrote:


More:
We can't do
ctxtools --updatecontext
it complaint it cannot fetch the zip


you can download the zip-file from pragma-ade.nl or one of the  
mirrors

on unzip the file in your local tex tree


Thanks (but why cannot I?)


Ifyou use a proxy you can try:
ctxtools --updatecontext --proxy=The Virus/Spam/Threat Scanner of  
the computer Science Department - University of Turin - has  
detected a possible fraud attempt from 10.213.10.254 claiming to  
be The Virus/Spam/Threat Scanner of the computer Science  
Department - University of Turin - warning: numerical links are  
often malicious: 10.213.10.254

(assuming proxy port is 80)

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I did this interview where I just mentioned that I read Foucault.  
Who doesn't in university, right? I was in this strip club giving  
this guy a lap dance and all he wanted to do was to discuss  
Foucault with me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance,  
or I can discuss Foucault, but not at the same time; too much  
information.

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I did this interview where I just mentioned that I read Foucault. Who  
doesn't in university, right? I was in this strip club giving this  
guy a lap dance and all he wanted to do was to discuss Foucault with  
me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance, or I can discuss  
Foucault, but not at the same time; too much information.

(Annabel Chong)




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Re: [NTG-context] Stepping through PDF-Layers

2007-10-10 Thread Hans Hagen
Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I want to animate layers in a pdf like we can do at the moment with
 fieldstacks to show always the next picture after the click on a button.

\usemodule[pre-60]

and look into s-pre-6* to see how to enable it


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Re: [NTG-context] need help with creating a grid with context

2007-10-10 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On 10/10/07, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
 2007/10/10, Mojca Miklavec:
  On 10/10/07, MASON Peter J wrote:
 
   Hope to create a regular (1cm spacing) grid on page, of bullets. 
   Ultimately
   over the whole page.
 
  Why not using MetaPost?
 
  \starttext
  \startMPcode % or \startMPpage
  for i=0 upto 10:
for j=0 upto 20:
   fill fullcircle scaled 1mm shifted ((i,j) scaled 1cm);
endfor;
  endfor;
  \stopMPcode
  \stoptext
 
  Mojca

 Because TeX is faster in this situation and it takes more time to write
 the Metapost code in external file, process this file, convert it into a PDF
 file and include it into the document etc.

 I know what I say because this was one of the reasons why the sgf module
 place the field within TeX and not with Metapost, a matter of speed and you
 can reuse the objects.

OK, that's a good point, and I fully agree with it. It's only that I
would probably use something like that for really simple, short,
one-page documents, where I would be concerned about the speed I need
to come to a solution, not with the speed of document processing -
half a second more or less.

With the route tex - .plt file - gnuplot - tex (metafun) -
metapost (- mpto or \sometxt) - pdf, which I frequently use, the
situation is much much worse, but it's still acceptable. ConTeXt
became at least 10 times faster during the last three or four years.
(Or at least that's my impression.)

 You should also replace the fullcircle with drawdot in your example, drawdot
 renders better on screen and looks better.

Thanks. I always use fill fullcircle for some reason. Perhaps I should
changle my habit :)

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] debian: itemize start=0

2007-10-10 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On 10/10/07, plink wrote:
 Hi,

 on debian testing this small file

 \starttext

 \startitemize[n]
 \item one
 \item two
 \stopitemize

 blahblah

 \startitemize[n,continue]
 \item three
 \stopitemize

 \stoptext

 gives an itemization that starts at zero, plus the continue does not
 work either (context version: 2007.09.28 16:52
 (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/context.tex)).

 Any hints or preliminary solutions greatly appreciated.

Don't ask me how that was possible. I tried that example and it works
fine. Last time (Thread nesting \startitemize, 3 days ago) I had
those problems as well, but nobody else has complained about it, so I
have never mentioned it.

Weird.

I have no time to test at the moment, but there seem to have been
problems with this for some time already. See also:
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context/36285

Also, in past, people reported many problem with itemization starts
with 0 when in dvi mode.

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] need help with creating a grid with context

2007-10-10 Thread MASON Peter J
You introduce spurious spaces (line break sometimes adds a space) in
 you loops. See ...

Yes, you're right. A programmer, I tend to think that white space is
always good for readability. Thanks for that tip.

But I DO like the \dorecurse(...) version better. I didn't know of this
macro.

I couldn't survive context with this list! Thanks very much.

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