[NTG-context] [OT] STIX Fonts Released for Beta Test

2007-11-01 Thread luigi scarso
After some delay,
http://www.stixfonts.org/
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Re: [NTG-context] [OT] STIX Fonts Released for Beta Test

2007-11-01 Thread Hans Hagen
luigi scarso wrote:

 After some delay,
 http://www.stixfonts.org/

i wonder how useful these fonts are ... split over many fonts; pfb in 
otf disguise (so we need many commands and families, or we need to make 
a virtual font, or ...)

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Re: [NTG-context] xml misc

2007-11-01 Thread Hans Hagen
Andrea Valle wrote:

 The html is w3c compliant and being automatically generated seems to be 
 consistent.
 
 I'm able to do easily stuff like this, which is a promising start:
 
 \startenvironment scEnv
 \enableregime[utf]
 \defineXMLenvironment [body] \starttext \stoptext
 %\defineXMLenvironment [style] \starthiding \stophiding
 \defineXMLcommand [p] \par
 \defineXMLgrouped [b] \bf
 \stopenvironment
 
 
 But:
 1. how do I simply skip undesired tags? The \start-\stophiding trick 
 (which in any case does not work: why?) was a hack in order to not 
 typeset the stile tags

these are in fact buffers and buffers work on the unexpanded input stream

\defineXMLignore[style]

 2. how can i map class attributes in order to specify for each of them 
 e.g fontname, points, color, indenting?

\mapXMLvalue cum suis ... see x-* files for examples

(in mkiv one can use a mixed tree/streem based model)

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Re: [NTG-context] updating mswincontext

2007-11-01 Thread Hans Hagen
Joel C. Salomon wrote:
 What is the best way of keeping a mswincontext installation
 up-to-date?  Do I need to download beta releases of the luatex binary
 and newer versions of the ConTeXt distribution from
 http://www.pragma-ade.com/download-1.htm, or is there an automatic
 updater?
 
 On a related note, where should I unzip the cont-xxx.zip packages I'd
 like to use on my system?  In texmf-local, or texmf-extra, or where?

if you use scite ... there is an update entry in the tools menu

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Re: [NTG-context] JUstificarion of \inleft

2007-11-01 Thread Hans Hagen
John Culleton wrote:
 The Context command \inleft is almost comparable to a similar facility in 
 Framemaker with this exception: Framemaker left justifies multiple lines in 
 this situation (called a sidehead)  whereas \inleft right justifies them.  I 
 know I can force indiviual lines into place by enclosing them in \leftline or 
 whatever but I am hoping there is a more general solution.

\starttext
 \setuplayout[margin=1.5cm]
 \setupinmargin[align=outer]
 \inleft {hi\\there} \input weisman
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[NTG-context] project structure and dissertations

2007-11-01 Thread Jesse Alama
I'm unsure about an aspect of The ConTeXt Way and its application to my
current situation: typesetting a dissertation, namely: how can I take
advantage of project sttructure?

It seems natural to regard the dissertation as a project and the
chapters as products (which sounds strange to my mind, in this case).
But then I have no idea what would correspond to components; it seems
like excessive, unnecessary structuring to regard sections of chapters
as components.  And if sections aren't components, I don't know what
they would be.

Earlier messages on this mailing list suggest that projects aren't
supposed to be compiled; only components and products are supposed to be
compiled.  This suggests that the whole dissertation not be a project;
clearly I would want to compile the whole dissertation.

Another approach would be to skip projects and stick with just products
and components.  In this case, the whole dissertation would be a product
(which sounds right to me), and chapters would be components.

But then, if I follow that route, how would the logical structure
interact with the typographical structure (what is called
meta-structure in the ConTeXt manual)?  I want to say something like

  \startfrontmatter
\chapter{Preface}
  \stopfrontmatter

  \startbodymatter
\chapter{Introduction}
  \stopbodymatter

  \startappendices
\chapter{Complex Proof that was Skipped}
  \stopappendices

  \startbackmatter
\chapter{Colofon}
  \stopbackmatter

in dissertation.tex, to indicate the typographical/meta structure.  But then
where would the \component commands go?  Would it look something like
this:

  \startproductproduct dissertation

  \startfrontmatter
\chapter{Preface}
\component{Preface}
  \stopbodymatter

  ...

  or would I somehow be able to refer to the whole text of the
  preface and do something like

  \startproduct dissertation
  \component preface
\chapter{Preface}
\getbuffer{buf:preface}
  \startfrontmatter

  ...

with the whole text of the preface in a buffer?

I would appreciate any advice!

Thanks,

Jesse  

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[NTG-context] Problem with nested \quotation and \quote

2007-11-01 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
Hi all,

the attached test file shows a problem with nested \quotation and  
\quote commands: ConTeXt breaks the line after the first closing  
quote. There shouldn't be a line break there.

Thanks!

Thomas

\definepapersize[test][width=7cm,height=3cm]

\setuppapersize[test][test]

\mainlanguage[en]

\starttext

\quotation{He said, \quote{this demonstrates the problem with nested  
quotes.}}

\stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] project structure and dissertations

2007-11-01 Thread Hans Hagen
Jesse Alama wrote:
   \startfrontmatter
 \chapter{Preface}
   \stopfrontmatter

\startfrontmatter
\component preface
\stopfrontmatter


   \startbodymatter
 \chapter{Introduction}
   \stopbodymatter

\startbodymatter
  \component introduction
  \component aboutthis
  \component aboutthat
\stopbodymatter

   \startappendices
 \chapter{Complex Proof that was Skipped}
   \stopappendices
 
   \startbackmatter
 \chapter{Colofon}
   \stopbackmatter

so, the \chapter command goes into a component file

 with the whole text of the preface in a buffer?

no buffers here

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Re: [NTG-context] Getting the default pdf fonts working on texlive 2007

2007-11-01 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On 10/27/07, George N. White III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 10/26/07, Berend de Boer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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  Hi Guys,
 
  Just had sometime to update to texlive 2007 from the DVD that was on
  the shelf for quite some time.
 
  But as usual, the default postscript fonts don't work.

 Since I gave away my NeXT system, I no longer have Adobe fonts.
 Linux has (some version of) the URW fonts, so that is what I use.

 Most of the font support in TL is for LaTeX.  ConTeXt started out using
 plain tex mechanism and then took a different approach.   Look for
 mfont.pdf on the ConTeXt site (I don't see it in TeX Live).   It explains
 how to generate the missing map files as well as the typescript.

 You might look into XeTeX and (eventually) luatex, which are supposed to
 make it easier to use system fonts.

  Setup: default texlive 2007. No cont-sys.tex. I used updmap --edit to
  change LW35 to ADOBEkb.
 
  Here my test file:
 
  ==
  \setupbodyfont
[postscript,11pt]

You are missing this line (in front of setupbodyfont) for example:

\usetypescript[postscript][ec]
\setupbodyfont[postscript,11pt]

Does this work?

8r are kind-of-not-supported any more, that's why files might be missing.

Note that the line above currently loads some urw fonts, while it will
load TeX Gyre in the future.

 Try just [pos,11pt].  I get:  (using the MKiV context with the svn version 
 of
 TL, so your results may not be quite the same, but this stuff shouldn't have
 changed much.

Tthis syntax is obsolete and only left there for backward
compatibility. See type-pre.tex:

%D This file is obsolete. We now have latin modern and proper
%D typescripts. Forget about this file.

%D This file defines some typescripts that simulate the pre-typescript way
%D of defining fonts. This file will not be extended.

\starttypescript [pos]
  \usetypescript [postscript] [\defaultencoding]
  \setupbodyfont [postscript]
\stoptypescript

Mojca

PS: true, updmap is not used
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Re: [NTG-context] [OT] STIX Fonts Released for Beta Test

2007-11-01 Thread Taco Hoekwater


Hans Hagen wrote:
 luigi scarso wrote:
 
 After some delay,
 http://www.stixfonts.org/
 
 i wonder how useful these fonts are ... split over many fonts; pfb in 
 otf disguise (so we need many commands and families, or we need to make 
 a virtual font, or ...)

They do seem to have 'math' feature information, but the glyph
splits are ridiculous. E.g. the normal weight Script alphabet
(U+1D49C-U+1D4CF) is in the italic font, and the bold weight
is in the bolditalic font, as if it were a normal text font.


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Re: [NTG-context] New build problems

2007-11-01 Thread Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
Hello Hans,

 i've never seen that one before ... where does it come from?
Surprise! :)

It comes whenever I run luatools.cmd from the latest build.

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Re: [NTG-context] New build problems

2007-11-01 Thread Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
Hello Hans,

To be more specific, it is texlua.exe that causes that awful crash, even run 
alone.

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Re: [NTG-context] New build problems

2007-11-01 Thread Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
Hello Hans,

 hm, something wrong with the binary then

Very probably it is.

Meanwhile, two questions:

1) Where LUANPUTS should point to? Or it is of no use in the new build?

2) Is the folder texmf-context\scripts\context\lua really needed? It seems 
like all that files are found in texmf-win\bin folder. (At least, should I 
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Re: [NTG-context] New build problems

2007-11-01 Thread Hans Hagen
Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote:
 Hello Hans,
 
 To be more specific, it is texlua.exe that causes that awful crash, even run 
 alone.

hm, something wrong with the binary then

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[NTG-context] LuaTeX/MKIV on OS X 10.5 Leopard

2007-11-01 Thread David Wooten
Greetings all,

I'm curious whether anyone using MKIV on a Mac has upgraded to 10.5?  
Any problems after doing so?

Regards,
David
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[NTG-context] \quotation

2007-11-01 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid
Dear gang,

This has bugged me for years but I never said anything since the  
workaround is so easy. OTOH I am working on something I'd like to share  
with others and an official solution would be better:

\starttext
\input knuth
\startquotation
\input knuth
\stopquotation
\input knuth
\stoptext

I. \start-\stopquotation surrounds the block quote in double-quotes marks.  
I don't know about other European languages but in English this is  
redundant; I've hardly ever seen block quotes use dbl-quote marks.

We at least need a setup option to turn this off.

II. There should be some default whitespace between the block quote and  
the surrounding text, just as \start-stopitemize has. Or at least this  
should be configurable in the setups.

If these two are already there (not in the manual) then please let us know  
how to set this up. Otherwise could you add configuration options for this?

FYI: Here is what I use

===
\definestartstop
   [quote]
   [before={\startnarrower[2*left,2*right]\blank[big]\noindenting},
 after={\stopnarrower\blank[big]}]
===

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[NTG-context] ConTeXt Package for Notepad++ v. 4.5

2007-11-01 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid
Dear cabal,

I have uploaded an updated version of the ConTeXt-support package for  
Notepad++ (Npp):

http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Image:Npp_ConTeXt.zip

For details, see the Readme as well as

http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20070813.050137.7a5796f0.en.html

There are lots of small improvements. One nice feature is that from any  
text
selection (such as a control sequence) you may do a ConTeXt Wiki search
 from the RUN menu or ALT-F2. In addition there is Google and Wikipedia
search. Also, I have included the wonderful Explorer plugin.

Most of the Scite ConTeXt commands are included (same shortcuts), in both  
RUN and script versions (for the console F6).

Npp is one of the most powerful and useful text editors around. For  
windows users (you can also use it under wine) wanting a more modern  
interface with loads of included features (see especially the TextFX  
menu), it deserves a close look.

I hope that someone will wikify this under the Text-Editor page. Enjoy!

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Re: [NTG-context] LuaTeX/MKIV on OS X 10.5 Leopard

2007-11-01 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz

On Nov 1, 2007, at 5:47 PM, David Wooten wrote:

 Greetings all,

 I'm curious whether anyone using MKIV on a Mac has upgraded to 10.5?
 Any problems after doing so?

 Regards,
 David

Yup, here. Upgraded to 10.5 day before yesterday; no problems with  
Mkiv so far. Except that the latest luatex snapshot won't compile on  
OS X, but beta 0.11.2 works normally here.

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Re: [NTG-context] project structure and dissertations

2007-11-01 Thread Peter Münster
On Thu, 1 Nov 2007, Jesse Alama wrote:

 It seems natural to regard the dissertation as a project and the
 chapters as products (which sounds strange to my mind, in this case).
 But then I have no idea what would correspond to components; it seems
 like excessive, unnecessary structuring to regard sections of chapters
 as components.  And if sections aren't components, I don't know what
 they would be.

You can have just one product (your dissertation) in a project. And if you
put your chapters into components, then you can compile each chapter
individually.
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[NTG-context] MathML in Metafun

2007-11-01 Thread Maurí­cio
Hi,

Is it possible to use MathML inside
a Metapost or Metafun label?

Thanks,
Maurício

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[NTG-context] +1 ConTeXt noobie/user

2007-11-01 Thread Matija Šuklje
OK, so far I've been reluctant, but from what I saw so far, I think you can 
call me a new ConTeXt user or more accurately a noobie.

I think I figured out how to tweak Kile into being usable (not perfect yet 
though) as a ConTeXt editor ...kudos to the devs who put so many options to 
tweak into Kile and to Michael Krauss for the Kate highlighting to make this 
possible.

Now all I have to do is wait for TeX Live to become stable on amd64 in 
Gentoo's portage tree and I'll finish the switch. :)

I still have a lot of questions and as of yet didn't manage to write a 
document in ConTeXt, but I'll try not to bug the list too often and plan to 
search the wiki et al. before I feel I am able to question anything really.


best regards and thanks for ConTeXt,

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Re: [NTG-context] New build problems

2007-11-01 Thread Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
Hello Hans,

Is some additional info needed from me to fix this issue?

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Re: [NTG-context] New build problems

2007-11-01 Thread Mojca Miklavec
Hello Vyatcheslav,

First: thanks a lot for your patience and for testing.

Just to explain it: Hans is only indirectly involved in this, so if
anyone is to be blamed for non-functionality, that's me or Arthur (who
will probably deny everything :-) on the first place. Hans is only
responsible for those parts which are already working :)

Last time when it failed to work in a similar manner on windows, it
has been a problem with rsync (some builds simply fail to work
properly) and I kept getting errors related to some knd of
permissions. (read as: when I downloaded the binaries with rsync under
mac and saved them on a shared partition, they worked OK on windows,
but they didn't work when I downloaded them with rsync on windows).

The most weird thing is that it already worked on your computer, and
it kind-of-works on mine, and I don't remember doing anything except
changing folder names (perhaps I missed some details inbetween), so I
have absolutely no idea where things could go wrong. What if you
change directory names manually (after downloading) back to the
original ones?

Mojca

On 11/1/07, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote:
 Hello Hans,

  hm, something wrong with the binary then

 Very probably it is.

 Meanwhile, two questions:

 1) Where LUANPUTS should point to? Or it is of no use in the new build?

LUAINPUTS is set in texmf.cnf already, so you don't need any
environmental variable.

 2) Is the folder texmf-context\scripts\context\lua really needed? It seems 
 like all that files are found in texmf-win\bin folder. (At least, should I 
 include it into my path?)

You don't need to include texmf-context\scripts\context\lua in PATH.
In any case, that folder is the true source. texmf-win\bin is composed
of:
- texmfstart.exe
- different standard binaries (pdfTeX, XeTeX, LuaTeX, metapost, ...)
- .bat/.cmd files
- lua files (Hans said they're needed, so I copied them there from
\scripts\context\lua)

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Package for Notepad++ v. 4.5

2007-11-01 Thread Joel C. Salomon
On 11/1/07, Idris Samawi Hamid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have uploaded an updated version of the ConTeXt-support package for
 Notepad++ (Npp):

Thanks!  I'm trying to make it work with my np++ installation without
losing my tweaks  configurations, so I've been manually merging
config files rather than copying—but I seem not to have access to a
few features.

Actually, all I can tell is that I have ConTeXt-aware syntax
highlighting.  Auto-completion doesn't work either.

Basically, I need to know what parts of the distribution do what.  For example:

 One nice feature is that from any text selection (such as a control sequence)
 you may do a ConTeXt Wiki search from the RUN menu or ALT-F2.

How does that get enabled?

 Most of the Scite ConTeXt commands are included (same shortcuts), in both
 RUN and script versions (for the console F6).

I can get a console with F6; can you give an example of what to do with it?

--Joel
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Package for Notepad++ v. 4.5

2007-11-01 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid
Hi,

I uploaded a new package just now; just a couple of minor tweaks.

On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 15:21:25 -0600, Joel C. Salomon  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 11/1/07, Idris Samawi Hamid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have uploaded an updated version of the ConTeXt-support package for
 Notepad++ (Npp):

 Thanks!  I'm trying to make it work with my np++ installation without
 losing my tweaks  configurations, so I've been manually merging
 config files rather than copying—but I seem not to have access to a
 few features.

I understand, though in my experience it's quite error prone... In your  
kind of case I usually backup my C:\Documents and  
Settings\user\Application Data\Notepad++ directory and just start fresh.

 Actually, all I can tell is that I have ConTeXt-aware syntax
 highlighting.  Auto-completion doesn't work either.

What about folding? There's an example file in the ConTeXt zip.

The context api is in the Program_Files zip. CTRL-SPACE activates it while  
typing, or else go to Settings-Preferences-Backup/AutoCompletion to make  
it automatic.

 Basically, I need to know what parts of the distribution do what.  For  
 example:

 One nice feature is that from any text selection (such as a control  
 sequence)
 you may do a ConTeXt Wiki search from the RUN menu or ALT-F2.

 How does that get enabled?

You need shortcuts.xml. You can mix and match with your old one.

See the readme also.

A nice little trick lies in Plugins-ConvertExt-Options: Bracket Auto  
Completion.

 Most of the Scite ConTeXt commands are included (same shortcuts), in  
 both
 RUN and script versions (for the console F6).

 I can get a console with F6; can you give an example of what to do with  
 it?

It's basically there to run multiline scripts. Install the new  
Program_Files zip (just uploaded), close and reopen, and press F6 for an  
example. The RUN commands are static, but with the console you can  
experiment with different settings, options, etc. It's one of my favorite  
utilities, actually. I use it much more than I use RUN.

Best
Idris

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International Journal of Shi`i Studies
Department of Philosophy
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Re: [NTG-context] New build problems

2007-11-01 Thread Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
Hello Mojca,

Thank you.

I'm not in position to change dir names because it doesn't help with that error 
(I tried), and I updated my environment variables for the new build.

Really, it is not important which part doesn't work if they don't work at all. 
:) Who compiled texlua?

Thank you for explanations again and I will have them in mind. 

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Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky

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[NTG-context] Fatal format file error; I'm stymied

2007-11-01 Thread Ernesto Schirmacher

After many years as a LaTeX user I'm attempting to switch over to ConTeXt.  

I recently upgraded my operating system to Ubuntu 7.10 (on an AMD64 machine) 
and got the TeXLive and ConTeXt packages from the Ubuntu repositories.  I tried 
compiling a very simple document:

\starttext

Hello this is \ConTeXt.

\stoptext

using the command: texexec simple.tex and got the following output on my 
terminal:

TeXExec | processing document 'simple.tex'
TeXExec | no ctx file found
TeXExec | tex processing method: context
TeXExec | TeX run 1
TeXExec | writing option file simple.top
TeXExec | using randomseed 898
TeXExec | tex engine: pdftex
TeXExec | tex format: cont-en
This is pdfTeXk, Version 3.141592-1.40.3 (Web2C 7.5.6)
%$-line parsing enabled.
(/usr/share/texmf/web2c/natural.tcx)
---! cont-en.fmt was written by pdfetex
(Fatal format file error; I'm stymied)
TeXExec | runtime: 0.177424


Clearly something is not working properly and I suspect the incompatibility 
between 
   This is pdfTeXk...
and
   ---! cont-en.fmt was written by pdfetex 
is the source of all trouble here.

Could someone please point me in the right direction to resolve this?

Thanks in advance, 

Ernesto
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