Re: [NTG-context] Setting up a project
Joel C. Salomon wrote: Does a project with a single product really require the full hierarchy? Is there a dummy layout I can put into the environment file to test the set-up? no, you could stick to a product but maybe later on you want for instance a screen version which then can make another product \startenvironment env_firefly \definepapersize[sixbynine][width=6in,height=9in] \setuppapersize[sixbynine][sixbynine] \setuplayout[... ...] \stopenvironment Do I need to define name the paper size, or is putting it in the \setuplayout sufficient? looks ok to me; it depends on your papersize also try: \setuppapersize[sixbynine][oversized] \setuplayout[marking=on] What are the offset scale in the paper size? special purpose, tweaking, seldom needed I want to have 6″×9″ trim, inner margin of 48pt, outer margin 96pt, top margin 72pt, bottom margin 144pt for starters. Headers and footers, when they exist, are allocated 12 points height and are 12pt away from the text. (See the linked-to example.) I have read several of the manuals, I'm just having trouble putting it all together. Also, I'm not looking for a recipe but guides on developing the layout myself so I can understand it. use \showframe stat with defining headers and footers and then set topspace and backspace dimensions - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] a question about s-pre-61.tex
Dalyoung Jeong wrote: Dear all, I tried to compile s-pre-61.tex to see the interaction. At the first time, I got the font error. It had a problem to use Optima-nova font. I changed the bodyfont to pagella in type-gyr.tex file and tried again. It runs without the error, but it didn't make pdf output. I checked the log file and found the following strange message (1),(2), and (3). (/usr/local/texlive/2007/../texmf-local/tex/context/base/type-gyr.tex) interaction : active color : mpcmyk color space is supported color : mpspot color space is supported color : system rgb is global activated system : mark Topic defined [chapter] system : mark Topicnumber defined [chapternumber] system : mark Nopic defined [title] system : mark Nopicnumber defined [titlenumber] ) systems : invalid \starttext...\stoptext structure (1) texexec --mode=demo ... it's a style, not a document, but some have demo sections - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Setting up a project
On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 18:04:57 -0500 Joel C. Salomon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying a fairly ambitious project to teach myself practical ConTeXt -- typesetting a book I'm writing. As per http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Project_structure, I've created files for the project, environment, product, and component. The component file (preface.tex) is the only one with (dummy) content right now. Side questions: Does a project with a single product really require the full hierarchy? Is there a dummy layout I can put into the environment file to test the set-up? you can omit the project file, I use it myself only for documents where I use the same layout for more than one product/Dokument. Now I want to set up the layout. An example of what I'm trying to achieve is at http://typophile.com/files/Layout.pdf, currently done in OpenOffice. I'm not yet asking about fonts; I just want to put the text in the correct places. It doesn't seem that 6×9 (inches) is a built-in size, so my environment file (env_firefly.tex) needs to look something like: How to use th Gentium fonts with ConTeXt have been asked not so long ago, I could also send you a typescript file to use the DejaVo fonts with XeTeX but I had a few problems to use them with LuaTeX in the last time. \startenvironment env_firefly \definepapersize[sixbynine][ width=6in,height=9in, offset=???,scale=???] \setuppapersize[sixbynine][sixbynine] \setuplayout[... ...] \stopenvironment Do I need to define name the paper size, or is putting it in the \setuplayout sufficient? What are the offset scale in the paper size? You need \definepapersize to set the width and height of your page. I never the used the offset and scale keys for \definepapersize but the offset key sems to change the with and height of the papersize by the given value, positive value means reduce the size by this dimension. Don't know what the scale key is for, I tried to use it but got no change in the output. \setuplayout is meant to set the margin on your page. You forgot \setuppagenumbering[location=doublesided] in your environment to get a doublesided document. I want to have 6″×9″ trim, inner margin of 48pt, outer margin 96pt, top margin 72pt, bottom margin 144pt for starters. Headers and footers, when they exist, are allocated 12 points height and are 12pt away from the text. (See the linked-to example.) \setuplayout [backspace=48pt, cutspace=96pt, width=fit, height=fit, %topspace=72pt, topspace=60pt, header=12pt, headerdistance=12pt, %bottomspace=144pt, bottomspace=132pt, footer=12pt, footerdistance=12pt] I have read several of the manuals, I'm just having trouble putting it all together. Also, I'm not looking for a recipe but guides on developing the layout myself so I can understand it. You could try to read the example layouts on the wiki. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] luatex not compiling
2007/12/20, Hans van der Meer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Probably changing the code into: #include signal.h #ifndef _SIGNAL_H_ #include sys/signal.h #endif might help, but I have not tested this (some of the pie should be left for Taco c.s. ;-) Just curious: What does the man page of signal.h say how to include it on OSX? On linux it's signal.h ... Best Martin ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] bib module in pdftex and luatex
Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
Hi all (esp. Taco ;-),
here's a very fundamental question about the bib-module: my main bib
file now has ~ 1,700 entries. When I tried to compile a file which
includes bibliographic references in mkii, I got this error:
! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [hash size=6].
\@@shortsectionnumber ...\c!conversion \endcsname
\relax [EMAIL PROTECTED]
\ifx
\csname \...
\@@longsectionnumber ...\@@shortsectionnumber {#1}
\fi
\finalsectionnumber ...alue {\@@sectie \c!number }
\fi \fi
\dodododoconstructhead ...er {\someheadconversion
}\getvalue {\??ko
#1\c!inb...
l.162 \section{Textausgaben}
! == Fatal error occurred, no output PDF file produced!
The same file compiles without errors in mkiv. So I'm curious: Is it
possible that the bib file is just too large for mkii? Or is it more
probable that there's some error in it such as missing crossref etc?
Does anyone have experience with large bib files and the bib module?
you can increase the hash size in texmf.cnf ... if so, then also remake
the format
in mkiv we need less hash space if only because it got rid of encodings
and regimes
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] bib module in pdftex and luatex
On Dec 21, 2007, at 1:47 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: you can increase the hash size in texmf.cnf ... if so, then also remake the format in mkiv we need less hash space if only because it got rid of encodings and regimes Indeed, increasing the hash_extra size and rebuilding the formats worked. Remarkable that mkiv is already more efficient wrt hash space! Thanks, and best Thomas ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] bib module in pdftex and luatex
Hi all (esp. Taco ;-),
here's a very fundamental question about the bib-module: my main bib
file now has ~ 1,700 entries. When I tried to compile a file which
includes bibliographic references in mkii, I got this error:
! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [hash size=6].
\@@shortsectionnumber ...\c!conversion \endcsname
\relax [EMAIL PROTECTED]
\ifx
\csname \...
\@@longsectionnumber ...\@@shortsectionnumber {#1}
\fi
\finalsectionnumber ...alue {\@@sectie \c!number }
\fi \fi
\dodododoconstructhead ...er {\someheadconversion
}\getvalue {\??ko
#1\c!inb...
l.162 \section{Textausgaben}
! == Fatal error occurred, no output PDF file produced!
The same file compiles without errors in mkiv. So I'm curious: Is it
possible that the bib file is just too large for mkii? Or is it more
probable that there's some error in it such as missing crossref etc?
Does anyone have experience with large bib files and the bib module?
Thanks, and best wishes
Thomas
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Re: [NTG-context] luatex not compiling
Hi guys, On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 03:50:04 -0700, Martin Schröder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2007/12/20, Hans van der Meer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Probably changing the code into: #include signal.h #ifndef _SIGNAL_H_ #include sys/signal.h #endif might help, but I have not tested this (some of the pie should be left for Taco c.s. ;-) Just curious: What does the man page of signal.h say how to include it on OSX? On linux it's signal.h ... Should'nt this discssion go to the dev-luatex list? :-) Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] luatex not compiling
Idris Samawi Hamid wrote: Hi guys, On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 03:50:04 -0700, Martin Schröder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2007/12/20, Hans van der Meer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Probably changing the code into: #include signal.h #ifndef _SIGNAL_H_ #include sys/signal.h #endif might help, but I have not tested this (some of the pie should be left for Taco c.s. ;-) Just curious: What does the man page of signal.h say how to include it on OSX? On linux it's signal.h ... Should'nt this discssion go to the dev-luatex list? :-) But did not CC the list himself. :-) This: http://www.hmug.org/man/2/sigaltstack.php looks like a Mac OS X manual page. However, Thomas reported that using stack_t (as the man page says) did not actually help either. I do not have a recent Macintosh, so I can not test this. If this issue can not be resolved, I will simply remove the signal trapping code in the next beta. Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] bib module in pdftex and luatex
Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: The same file compiles without errors in mkiv. So I'm curious: Is it possible that the bib file is just too large for mkii? Just to be complete: In general, the answer to that is yes, even for mkiv. Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] bib module in pdftex and luatex
Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: On Dec 21, 2007, at 2:37 PM, Taco Hoekwater wrote: Just to be complete: In general, the answer to that is yes, even for mkiv. Best wishes, Taco Hmm, okay, thanks, Taco. Any rule of thumb for just how big is too big? Depends on your texmf.cnf. IIRC, I have twenty or so csnames per entry, and the baseline for mkii is a bit over 40.000 csnames, so you need about 40.000 + 20 * (numberofentries) And what do people do in cases like this? One of the wonderful Increase hash_extra, as Hans said. There is (virtuallly) no limit to that. Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] bib module in pdftex and luatex
On Dec 21, 2007, at 2:37 PM, Taco Hoekwater wrote: Just to be complete: In general, the answer to that is yes, even for mkiv. Best wishes, Taco Hmm, okay, thanks, Taco. Any rule of thumb for just how big is too big? And what do people do in cases like this? One of the wonderful things about bibtex for me was that I could build up one big database which I could reuse for all my needs. Best Thomas ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] (mkii) language-specific options for \placeregister[index] ?
On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 22:01:14 +0100
Steffen Wolfrum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Am 19.12.2007 um 14:45 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
2007/12/19, Steffen Wolfrum [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi,
the following (with mkii) is probably not the most pressuring topic
to most of you ... apologies!
Although I have set \mainlanguage[de] the register seems
to be
unaffected. All my cultural heritage (i.e. the Umaut) is ignored!!!
o(
The problem is the sorting – keywords containing umlauts seem to be
sorted after e:
Bestimmung
Bühler
Bildung
Are there language-specific arguments/options for
\placeregister[index]?
Thanks,
Steffen
Hi Steffen,
Can you post a example where this did happen for you.
Hi Hans and all others,
I found the reason for the wrong index sorting in Steffens files.
The correct sorted file contains something like this.
\enableregime[utf]
\starttext
text\index{Bestimmung} text\index{Bühler} text\index{Bildung} text
\placeindex
\stoptext
The text is enclosed by the normal start/stoptext pair and the document
setup is written before the start of the document while the wrong file
contains this:
\starttext
\enableregime[utf]
text\index{Bestimmung} text\index{Bühler} text\index{Bildung} text
\placeindex
\stoptext
The files did not really contain start/stop but use ConTeXts document
structure and \everystarttext is executed by \startpoduct, the first
command in the product file.
The problem is now, ConTeXt write information for the index sorting
into the tui file and a few additional entries for every spcifiec file
encoding, in this utf-8.
This works quite well in the first example because \enableregime is
writte before \starttext while in the second example the sorting
information are written before ConTeXt knows the file encoding.
A workaround for the moment is to write \enableregime before
\startproduct in the main file but I hope this coule be fiyed in the
next release.
I still wonder why nobody noticed this untill now.
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Setting up a project
Joel C. Salomon wrote: On Dec 21, 2007 3:19 AM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: \setuppapersize[sixbynine][oversized] \setuplayout[marking=on] Cool! Is there a way to center the 6″×9″ page on 8½″×11″ paper? I've tried \setuppapersize[sixbynine][letter] but that puts the page in the upper-left corner. Right now I'm using \setuppapersize[sixbynine][sixbynine] and having Acrobat Reader center this on the printed page. (Which might well be the best way to do this.) location=middle (in setuplayout) - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] bib module in pdftex and luatex
On Dec 21, 2007, at 4:56 PM, Taco Hoekwater wrote: Depends on your texmf.cnf. IIRC, I have twenty or so csnames per entry, and the baseline for mkii is a bit over 40.000 csnames, so you need about 40.000 + 20 * (numberofentries) And what do people do in cases like this? One of the wonderful Increase hash_extra, as Hans said. There is (virtuallly) no limit to that. Best wishes, Taco Ah, okay! Thanks a lot. So I will pit my ever larger and larger bib files against the ever more powerful computers that we will have in the future and let them fight it out! Thomas ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] bib module in pdftex and luatex
Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: Ah, okay! Thanks a lot. So I will pit my ever larger and larger bib files against the ever more powerful computers that we will have in the future and let them fight it out! we can manage the bib data in lua and do all bibtex actions there, Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Setting up a project
On Dec 21, 2007 3:19 AM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: \setuppapersize[sixbynine][oversized] \setuplayout[marking=on] Cool! Is there a way to center the 6″×9″ page on 8½″×11″ paper? I've tried \setuppapersize[sixbynine][letter] but that puts the page in the upper-left corner. Right now I'm using \setuppapersize[sixbynine][sixbynine] and having Acrobat Reader center this on the printed page. (Which might well be the best way to do this.) use \showframe stat with defining headers and footers and then set topspace and backspace dimensions Thanks; now I can see what I'm doing. On Dec 21, 2007 3:55 AM, Wolfgang Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you can omit the project file, I use it myself only for documents where I use the same layout for more than one product/Dokument. I assume that I'd replace every instance of \project firefly_novelization_proj with \environment firefly_novelization_env, correct? But keeping the project file isn't much hassle, and there might be two volumes, so... How to use th Gentium fonts with ConTeXt have been asked My use of Gentium is a temporary thing for the OpenOffice mockup; I'm asking for type suggestions on Typophile. For the nonce I'l be satisfied with the Latin Modern fonts. You forgot \setuppagenumbering[location=doublesided] in your environment to get a doublesided document. Thanks; that was not obvious from any sample document I've seen. \setuplayout [backspace=48pt, snip footerdistance=12pt] I'm using \setuplayout [marking=on %backspace=48pt, cutspace=96pt, backspace=36pt, cutspace=84pt, width=fit, height=fit, %topspace=72pt, topspace=48pt, header=12pt, headerdistance=12pt, %bottomspace=144pt, bottomspace=120pt, footer=12pt, footerdistance=12pt] right now. Notice the backspace cutspace values; the values you gave me defined some sort of left and right marginal areas with a separation between them and the main text area, and I wanted the text area to be 6″×9″. Now I'm thinking there must be a clearer way to express it, something like: width=288pt, height=432pt, header=12pt, headerdistance=12pt, footer=12pt, footerdistance=12pt, left**=48pt, right**=96pt, top**=72pt, bottom**=144pt, something to define an outer marginal area; I don't intend to put anything in the inner margin] where the left** c. define the distance between the paper's edge and the edge of the text area. Is this what the edgedistance values are? You could try to read the example layouts on the wiki. I'm using those for ideas too; I'm still missing some important things though. --Joel ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Keeping up-to-date under TeXLive
My new Ubuntu installation includes TeXLive version 2007-10. Is there a way for me to keep the ConTeXt part of this up-to-date with current (stable) versions? Considering that I have XeTeX 0.996, do I want to, or should I stick with what currently works? --Joel ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Setting up a project
On Dec 21, 2007 12:29 PM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: location=middle (in setuplayout) Is there a problem with having location=middle in setuplayout and location=doublesided in setuppagenumbering? --Joel ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] \setuplayout with marking but WITHOUT number
Hi,
see the following example, please:
\definepapersize[Small][width=15cm,height=7.5cm]
\setuppapersize[Small][A46,landscape]
\setuplayout
[width=15cm,height=7.5cm,backspace=-0cm,
location=middle,marking=on,grid=no]
\starttext\setupheadertexts[]
\centerline{TEXT}
\stoptext
How do I get rid of the four little 1 ???
Steffen
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Re: [NTG-context] luatex not compiling
Should'nt this discssion go to the dev-luatex list? :-) I think no, at least not now. Luatex is actually very 'tangled' with context mkiv and context users . -- luigi http://wiki.contextgarden.net/User:Luigi.scarso/Merry_Christmas_2007 it's new . it's powerful . it's luatex . http://www.luatex.org ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] (mkii) language-specific options for \placeregister[index] ?
Wolfgang Schuster wrote: The problem is now, ConTeXt write information for the index sorting into the tui file and a few additional entries for every spcifiec file encoding, in this utf-8. writing the sort vector is hooked into starttext This works quite well in the first example because \enableregime is writte before \starttext while in the second example the sorting information are written before ConTeXt knows the file encoding. A workaround for the moment is to write \enableregime before \startproduct in the main file but I hope this coule be fiyed in the next release. i'll find another hook I still wonder why nobody noticed this untill now. maybe because of \expanded names, \eacute still sorts somewhat right - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Keeping up-to-date under TeXLive
On Dec 21, 2007 6:22 PM, Joel C. Salomon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My new Ubuntu installation includes TeXLive version 2007-10. Is there a way for me to keep the ConTeXt part of this up-to-date with current (stable) versions? Considering that I have XeTeX 0.996, do I want to, or should I stick with what currently works? I don't have the answer, but I can tell you how I'm actually using context and luatex. First , i don't install anything fromt ubuntu about TeX: I only use last TeXLive under /opt/texlive I keep a mkii version of context here, and i have update with last pdftex and metapost. Second, for mkiv I always use new context files from pragma; I compile last metapost and luatex and put all stuff under /opt/luatex I feel good with this, because i can change/update distro without pain, and manage stuffs under /opt is also easy. I admit that this is not a 'debian' or ubunto way, but i use linux from 0.99 kernel, and the only things i have found stable is filesystem hierarchy -- luigi http://wiki.contextgarden.net/User:Luigi.scarso/Merry_Christmas_2007 it's new . it's powerful . it's luatex . http://www.luatex.org ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \setuplayout with marking but WITHOUT number
On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 18:40:08 +0100
Steffen Wolfrum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
see the following example, please:
\definepapersize[Small][width=15cm,height=7.5cm]
\setuppapersize[Small][A46,landscape]
\setuplayout
[width=15cm,height=7.5cm,backspace=-0cm,
location=middle,marking=on,grid=no]
\starttext\setupheadertexts[]
\centerline{TEXT}
\stoptext
How do I get rid of the four little 1 ???
\let\pagecutmarksymbol\relax
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Setting up a project
On Dec 21, 2007 12:49 PM, Joel C. Salomon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a problem with having location=middle in setuplayout and location=doublesided in setuppagenumbering? Never mind; I had done something dumb with the margin widths. Anyhow, I'm trying the environment shown below, but I'm evidently not understanding what the various *space values are. Only cutspace seems to work as I expected it to; even the text area isn't the right size (unless the rectangle isn't around the text area itself). \definepapersize[sixbynine][width=6in,height=9in] \setuppapersize[sixbynine][letter] \setuplayout [marking=on, location=middle, textwidth=288pt, textheight=432pt, header=12pt, headerdistance=12pt, topspace=72pt, footer=12pt, footerdistance=12pt, bottomspace=144pt, leftmargindistance=12pt, leftmargin=24pt, backspace=48pt, rightmargindistance=12pt, rightmargin=24pt, cutspace=96pt] \setuppagenumbering[location=doublesided] \showframe --Joel ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] (mkii) language-specific options for \placeregister[index] ?
On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 18:34:32 +0100 Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wolfgang Schuster wrote: The problem is now, ConTeXt write information for the index sorting into the tui file and a few additional entries for every spcifiec file encoding, in this utf-8. writing the sort vector is hooked into starttext I realized this myself, because the only difference between both version had been the file size of the tui files. This works quite well in the first example because \enableregime is writte before \starttext while in the second example the sorting information are written before ConTeXt knows the file encoding. A workaround for the moment is to write \enableregime before \startproduct in the main file but I hope this coule be fiyed in the next release. i'll find another hook I still wonder why nobody noticed this untill now. maybe because of \expanded names, \eacute still sorts somewhat right I found this solution also but it is easier to write ä, ü ... instead of \aumlaut, \uumlaut etc. BTW, why could I use only \aumlaut in macros but not \adiaresis. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Setting up a project
On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 12:49:04 -0500 Joel C. Salomon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 21, 2007 12:29 PM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: location=middle (in setuplayout) Is there a problem with having location=middle in setuplayout and location=doublesided in setuppagenumbering? No problem, the doublesided option for \setuppagenumbering take care of left and right pages in your real document while the location key for \setuplayout place the document only on the larger paper according to the given position. The command for doublesided documents should be \setuppagenumbering [alternative=doublesided] and not [location=doublesided], sorry for the wrong information. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \setuplayout with marking but WITHOUT number
Or even worse, how do I get rid of those fat white numbers in the
nice color fields:
\setupcolors[state=start]
\definepapersize[Small][width=15cm,height=7.5cm]
\setuppapersize[Small][A46,landscape]
\setuplayout
[width=15cm,height=7.5cm,backspace=-0cm,
location=middle,marking=color,grid=no]
\starttext\setupheadertexts[]
\centerline{TEXT}
\stoptext
Steffen
Am 21.12.2007 um 18:40 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum:
Hi,
see the following example, please:
\definepapersize[Small][width=15cm,height=7.5cm]
\setuppapersize[Small][A46,landscape]
\setuplayout
[width=15cm,height=7.5cm,backspace=-0cm,
location=middle,marking=on,grid=no]
\starttext\setupheadertexts[]
\centerline{TEXT}
\stoptext
How do I get rid of the four little 1 ???
Steffen
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Re: [NTG-context] (mkii) language-specific options for \placeregister[index] ?
Wolfgang Schuster wrote: BTW, why could I use only \aumlaut in macros but not \adiaresis. diae - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \setuplayout with marking but WITHOUT number
On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 19:05:04 +0100
Steffen Wolfrum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Or even worse, how do I get rid of those fat white numbers in the
nice color fields:
\setupcolors[state=start]
\definepapersize[Small][width=15cm,height=7.5cm]
\setuppapersize[Small][A46,landscape]
\setuplayout
[width=15cm,height=7.5cm,backspace=-0cm,
location=middle,marking=color,grid=no]
\starttext\setupheadertexts[]
\centerline{TEXT}
\stoptext
Steffen
This is not possible, the numbers are hard coded in the colorfield
macros, the only solution is to change the original macros, grep
for \colormarkbox in core-vis :-(
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] (mkii) language-specific options for \placeregister[index] ?
On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 19:35:32 +0100 Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wolfgang Schuster wrote: BTW, why could I use only \aumlaut in macros but not \adiaresis. diae D’oh! Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Setting up a project
On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 13:15:22 -0500 Joel C. Salomon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 21, 2007 12:49 PM, Joel C. Salomon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a problem with having location=middle in setuplayout and location=doublesided in setuppagenumbering? Never mind; I had done something dumb with the margin widths. Anyhow, I'm trying the environment shown below, but I'm evidently not understanding what the various *space values are. Only cutspace seems to work as I expected it to; even the text area isn't the right size (unless the rectangle isn't around the text area itself). \definepapersize[sixbynine][width=6in,height=9in] \setuppapersize[sixbynine][letter] \setuplayout [marking=on, location=middle, textwidth=288pt, textheight=432pt, header=12pt, headerdistance=12pt, topspace=72pt, footer=12pt, footerdistance=12pt, bottomspace=144pt, leftmargindistance=12pt, leftmargin=24pt, backspace=48pt, rightmargindistance=12pt, rightmargin=24pt, cutspace=96pt] \setuppagenumbering[location=doublesided] \showframe http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Layout you should also set only backspace and textwidth ond no cutspace or you set backspace and cutspace and let ConTeXt calculate the textwidth. What do you mean by the rectangle around the text area. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Setting up a project
On Dec 21, 2007 2:01 PM, Wolfgang Schuster
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What do you mean by the rectangle around the text area.
Here's the project I'm compiling (as it currently stands), condensed
into a single file:
\definepapersize[sixbynine][width=6in,height=9in]
\setuppapersize[sixbynine][letter]
\setuplayout
[marking=on, location=middle,
textwidth=288pt, textheight=432pt,
header=12pt, headerdistance=12pt, topspace=72pt,
footer=12pt, footerdistance=12pt, bottomspace=144pt,
leftmargindistance=12pt, leftmargin=24pt, backspace=48pt,
rightmargindistance=12pt, rightmargin=24pt]
\setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]
\showframe
\starttext
\title{Preface}
A few paragraphs of {\em Lorem ipsum} text.
\stoptext
The center rectangle, surrounding the text area, seems to have its
left right margins some distance from the actual text. How do I set
that distance, and why is it different from the leftmargindistance?
--Joel
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Re: [NTG-context] Setting up a project
On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 15:09:26 -0500
Joel C. Salomon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Dec 21, 2007 2:01 PM, Wolfgang Schuster
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What do you mean by the rectangle around the text area.
Here's the project I'm compiling (as it currently stands), condensed
into a single file:
\definepapersize[sixbynine][width=6in,height=9in]
\setuppapersize[sixbynine][letter]
\setuplayout
[marking=on, location=middle,
textwidth=288pt, textheight=432pt,
replace these two lines with
width=288pt and height=432pt
don't use textwidth and textheight in \setuplayout.
header=12pt, headerdistance=12pt, topspace=72pt,
footer=12pt, footerdistance=12pt, bottomspace=144pt,
leftmargindistance=12pt, leftmargin=24pt, backspace=48pt,
rightmargindistance=12pt, rightmargin=24pt]
\setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]
\showframe
\starttext
\title{Preface}
A few paragraphs of {\em Lorem ipsum} text.
\stoptext
The center rectangle, surrounding the text area, seems to have its
left right margins some distance from the actual text. How do I set
that distance, and why is it different from the leftmargindistance?
leftmargindistance is only the distance between the textarea and the
left box for the left margin, the layout concept could be a little bit
confusing.
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Keeping up-to-date under TeXLive
On Dec 21, 2007 6:22 PM, Joel C. Salomon wrote: My new Ubuntu installation includes TeXLive version 2007-10. Is there a way for me to keep the ConTeXt part of this up-to-date with current (stable) versions? ctxtools --updatecontext One (unofficial) way to update (only ConTeXt) is also: rsync -rvzctlp rsync://contextgarden.net/minimals/current/context/current/ your-texmf-tree and then remake the formats manually. Considering that I have XeTeX 0.996, do I want to, or should I stick with what currently works? For XeTeX it's probably advisable to have a recent ConTeXt version, but not neccessary the latest SVN binaries (it's nice to have them, but not obligatory). 0.996 still works OK, only a bit slower (new important fixes might also come out soon). In the case of LuaTeX you really need the latest binary. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Keeping up-to-date under TeXLive
On Fri, 21 Dec 2007, Joel C. Salomon wrote: My new Ubuntu installation includes TeXLive version 2007-10. Is there a way for me to keep the ConTeXt part of this up-to-date with current (stable) versions? I am in the same situation. Ubuntu 7.10, but the context version of the latest texlive is too old for my needs. Considering that I have XeTeX 0.996, do I want to, or should I stick with what currently works? In most cases (except if you want to test mkiv) the current binaries are ok. So, for pdftex (1.40.3-2.2), metapost (0.993) and xetex (0.996), I stick with the version provided by ubuntu. So far I have not run into a bug that was fixed in a higher version. If I do, I will download the latest binaries. For me, the more important thing is to have an uptodate context files. After a bit of trial and error, this is what I settled on. Create $HOME/texmf. Download justtex.zip, and cont-tmf.zip, cont-fnt.zip from pragma's website, and unzip them inside $HOME/texmf. Download the font files from TeX Gyre and unzip then in $HOME/texmf. Remake the formats, move the stubs and few programs to the path, and you are done. The only drawback of this is that you have to update manually. ctxtools --updatecontext unzip the file in TEXMFLOCAL, and not TEXMFHOME, so it does not work with this setup. I used $HOME/texmf rather than TEXMFLOCAL because there are some other programs that install stuff at TEXMFLOCAL. With the current mechanism, I can just mv $HOME/texmf to another directory, and go back to the context that comes with unbuntu. Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
