Re: [NTG-context] Include SVG pictures with ConTeXt

2008-06-29 Thread Taco Hoekwater
TeXWorld wrote:
 TeXWorld a écrit :
 Hello,

 I wonder if it is possible to include SVG picture directly in ConTeXt 
 without conversion.
 Thank you.


 Jack
   
 No answer.  Does it mean that it's not possible ?

Not that I know of, but I was hoping someone else did.

Best wishes,
Taco

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[NTG-context] Total number of figures/tables, etc.

2008-06-29 Thread Oleg Kolosov
Hi!

Is there are an easy way to get total number of pages/tables/figures
etc.? \getnumber[table] of \getnumber[figure] returns 0,
\getnumber[page] gives some irrelevant number. I've found command
\totalnumberofpages, is there are something similar for others? It would
be great to also automatically change the following word as in:

1 figure, but 2 figures

Is there support for that in ConTeXt?

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Re: [NTG-context] AUCTeX and ConTeXt

2008-06-29 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz

On Jun 28, 2008, at 8:08 PM, Charles P. Schaum wrote:

 yields the message buffer:

 Updating define menu...
 Updating setup menu...
 Updating other macro's menu...
 Updating project structure menu...
 Updating section block menu...
 Updating section menu...
 Updating...done
 Type `C-c C-l' to display results of compilation.
 ConTeXt: problems after {1} page.

 The pdf generated is, however, entirely satisfactory, as are all  
 texted
 documents.

 My strategy is to ignore it. This appears specific to AUCTeX, in this
 case running on GTK Emacs 22 / Ubuntu 8.04. By contrast, I have  
 minimal
 to no problems on my OS X installation.

 Charles

I think this is a problem in context.el. David Kastrup helped me with  
this problem at last year's ConTeXt meeting. Open the file auctex/ 
context.el in your favorite text editor. Now search for this line:

((re-search-forward ^ TeX\\(Exec\\|Util\\) nil t) ;; strange regexp  
--pg


Insert a question mark right before TeX, so the line reads

((re-search-forward ^ ?TeX\\(Exec\\|Util\\) nil t) ;; strange  
regexp --pg


That should fix your problem. pg, a.k.a. Patrick Gundelach, are you  
reading this? :-)

Thomas
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[NTG-context] context manuals sources

2008-06-29 Thread Alan Stone
Hi,

I'm trying to figure out the meaning and use
of the c! and v! prefixes in commands in, for
example, the layo-xx.tex source files at
http://context.aanhet.net/svn/manuals/context/
aka...

\setupcolors
  [\c!state=\v!start]

\setupsystem
  [\c!random=\v!big]

\setuplayout
  [\c!location=\v!middle,
   \c!style=\ss,
   \c!backspace=2.5cm,
   \c!topspace=1.5cm,
   \c!width=16cm,
   \c!margindistance=.25cm,
   \c!margin=2.5cm,
   \c!height=\v!middle]

:Oo ?

Alan
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Re: [NTG-context] context manuals sources

2008-06-29 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Alan Stone wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm trying to figure out the meaning and use
 of the c! and v! prefixes in commands in, for
 example, the layo-xx.tex source files at
 http://context.aanhet.net/svn/manuals/context/
 aka...

c is a constant (LHS), v is a variable (RHS enumeration).

Best wishes,
Taco

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Re: [NTG-context] pdf bizareness...

2008-06-29 Thread Alan Stone
Jonathan Kew's response...

---
You can't use \pdfminorversion in XeTeX, that's a pdfTeX-specific
command. I think you need to pass the -V command-line option to
xdvipdfmx (I expect this can be done somewhere in the ConTeXt
scripts, but don't know any details), or else set it in the
dvipdfmx.cfg configuration file. AFAIK, the usual default is 4, but
you can set it higher if you need to embed other PDFs that use a
higher version.

JK
---

 you need to pass the -V command-line option to
 xdvipdfmx (I expect this can be done somewhere in the ConTeXt
 scripts, but don't know any details),

Somebody knows the details ?

Alan

At Saturday 28/06/2008 13:45, you wrote:
On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Alan Stone
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Yep Hans, that one. Ok I won't bother about it any longer.
 
  Any clues regarding the other issues, i.e.
 
  (1) the scrambled PDF headers ?
 
  (2) the inability to lower the \pdfminorversion setting ?

For XeTeX it's set in tex.rb:
 @@runoptions['xetex']   = ['--8bit','-output-driver=xdvipdfmx
-E -d 4 -V 5']
you can modify that one, but it will be replaced next time when you
update ConTeXt.

Can you please ask on the XeTeX mailing list if there is some command
to specify PDF version with a command? Then, -V 5 could go out of
tex.rb into the format. But I'm not sure if that functionality has
already been implemented (though it should probably be trivial to do).

Mojca

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Re: [NTG-context] context manuals sources

2008-06-29 Thread Alan Stone
Euuuh, other than constant and variable...

LHS, RHS and enumeration are like klingon to me.  :O)

Are these terms important to understand the code ?

Alan


On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Alan Stone wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm trying to figure out the meaning and use
 of the c! and v! prefixes in commands in, for
 example, the layo-xx.tex source files at
 http://context.aanhet.net/svn/manuals/context/
 aka...

 c is a constant (LHS), v is a variable (RHS enumeration).

 Best wishes,
 Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] [Dev-luatex] Unicode in \pdfinfo

2008-06-29 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 11:39:07PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:
 Khaled Hosny wrote:
 On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 02:15:38PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:
 Khaled Hosny wrote:

 Thanks for the clarification, I'm trying to understand how stuff works
 and this helps definitely.
 So, could we've this support at context level, and every one will be
 happy :)
 you can try the beta ... (best move the discussion to the context 
 list  since it's not related that much to luatex)

 Now I can get pdfinfo correctly, but bookmarks are now just long strings
 starting with feff0, see the attached example.

 ah, due to loading order something gets overloaded

 i'll upload a new beta (a bit hackery)

 i wonder what bidi does in bookmarks and so ... maybe more is needed

 I don't think it'll need any special treatment since it'll rendered by
 the viewer UI widget, may be we need to strip formating commands if not
 done already.

 btw, for the moment do ...

 \startbackmatter
 \chapter{Index}
 \bookmark{Index}
 \placeindex
 \stopbackmatter

 headtexts are not expanded (but in mkiv this is no problem so i'll  
 change it there

Cool, it does work now :)

Regards,
 Khaled


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[NTG-context] problem with ligatures in MKIV

2008-06-29 Thread Peter Münster
Hello,

There are no ligatures in the frame in the header:

% engine=luatex
\setupheadertexts[X --- fl -- X\startframedtext X --- fl -- X \stopframedtext]
\starttext
X --- fl -- X\startframedtext X --- fl -- X \stopframedtext
\stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] context manuals sources

2008-06-29 Thread Charles P. Schaum
In a parser, a piece of code that interprets a set of structured rules
(grammar) from a (partially or fully) tokenized input stream from the
lexical analyzer at the front end, LHS is something on the left hand
side of an equation or term (thus, on the left-hand parse tree) and RHS
is on the right hand side.

There are free sources out there to find stuff on parsing so you don't
have to go and buy the Dragon book (Aho, Sethi, Ullmann), which I
nevertheless consider a vade mecum. You will find links to such
documentation under the computer - reference category at:

http://yoel.info/links.htm

Best wishes, and welcome to the world of artificial languages.

Charles

On Sun, 2008-06-29 at 13:09 +0200, Alan Stone wrote:
 Euuuh, other than constant and variable...
 
 LHS, RHS and enumeration are like klingon to me.  :O)
 
 Are these terms important to understand the code ?
 
 Alan
 
 
 On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Alan Stone wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I'm trying to figure out the meaning and use
  of the c! and v! prefixes in commands in, for
  example, the layo-xx.tex source files at
  http://context.aanhet.net/svn/manuals/context/
  aka...
 
  c is a constant (LHS), v is a variable (RHS enumeration).
 
  Best wishes,
  Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] Total number of figures/tables, etc.

2008-06-29 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Sun, 29 Jun 2008, Oleg Kolosov wrote:

 Hi!

 Is there are an easy way to get total number of pages/tables/figures
 etc.? \getnumber[table] of \getnumber[figure] returns 0,
 \getnumber[page] gives some irrelevant number. I've found command
 \totalnumberofpages, is there are something similar for others? It would
 be great to also automatically change the following word as in:

 1 figure, but 2 figures

 Is there support for that in ConTeXt?

No, but it is easy to define this on your own. To Hans: Is 
reading utilities not implemented in mkiv? The following works fine with 
mkii but not with mkiv.

\def\noffigures {1}

\def\savenoffigures
   {\savecurrentvalue{\noffigures}{\getnumber[figure]}}

\appendtoks \savenoffigures \to \everystoptext

\def\shownoffigures
   {\noffigures\ %
\doifelse{\noffigures}{1}{figure}{figures}}

\starttext

This text has \shownoffigures.

\dorecurse{10}{\placefigure{something}{} \input knuth \endgraf }

\stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] context manuals sources

2008-06-29 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Sun, 29 Jun 2008, Alan Stone wrote:

 Euuuh, other than constant and variable...

See http://wiki.contextgarden.net/System_Macros/Scratch_Variables

 LHS, RHS and enumeration are like klingon to me.  :O)

 Are these terms important to understand the code ?

While reading code you can simply ignore them. You can also ignore them 
while writing code (at least initially). The advantage of these \v! \c! 
thingies is that it makes it easier to catch typos and write a 
multi-lingual interface.

Aditya


 Alan


 On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Alan Stone wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm trying to figure out the meaning and use
 of the c! and v! prefixes in commands in, for
 example, the layo-xx.tex source files at
 http://context.aanhet.net/svn/manuals/context/
 aka...

 c is a constant (LHS), v is a variable (RHS enumeration).

 Best wishes,
 Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] context manuals sources

2008-06-29 Thread Alan Stone
On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 5:53 PM, Aditya Mahajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sun, 29 Jun 2008, Alan Stone wrote:

 Euuuh, other than constant and variable...

 See http://wiki.contextgarden.net/System_Macros/Scratch_Variables

Ahaa... I thought they were Scratch_Your_Head_Variables.  :O)

Thanks all for your enlightening comments.

Alan
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Re: [NTG-context] pdf bizareness...

2008-06-29 Thread Hans Hagen
Alan Stone wrote:
 Jonathan Kew's response...
 
 ---
 You can't use \pdfminorversion in XeTeX, that's a pdfTeX-specific
 command. I think you need to pass the -V command-line option to
 xdvipdfmx (I expect this can be done somewhere in the ConTeXt
 scripts, but don't know any details), or else set it in the
 dvipdfmx.cfg configuration file. AFAIK, the usual default is 4, but
 you can set it higher if you need to embed other PDFs that use a
 higher version.

maybe it makes sense to support the \pdfminotversion primitive in xetex; 
after all, its' determined by what trickery happens in the macro package

Hans


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Re: [NTG-context] pdf bizareness...

2008-06-29 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 12:56 PM, Alan Stone wrote:
 Jonathan Kew's response...

 ---
 You can't use \pdfminorversion in XeTeX, that's a pdfTeX-specific
 command. I think you need to pass the -V command-line option to
 xdvipdfmx (I expect this can be done somewhere in the ConTeXt
 scripts, but don't know any details), or else set it in the
 dvipdfmx.cfg configuration file. AFAIK, the usual default is 4, but
 you can set it higher if you need to embed other PDFs that use a
 higher version.

 JK
 ---

  you need to pass the -V command-line option to
  xdvipdfmx (I expect this can be done somewhere in the ConTeXt
  scripts, but don't know any details),

 Somebody knows the details ?

On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 9:28 PM, Hans Hagen wrote
 maybe it makes sense to support the \pdfminotversion primitive in xetex;
 after all, its' determined by what trickery happens in the macro package

At the moment the only reasonable answer is to edit tex.rb (every time
when you update ConTeXt) I'm affraid. Hans doesn't provide any command
line opton to change that, and apparently Jonathan didn't provide any
primitive to change that either. You could create or edit a
configuration file for dvipdfmx, but I'm affraid that passing an
option to xdvipdfmx (which is done by default in ConTeXt already)
would overwrite that setting anyway.

You have two options if you really really need that:
1.) bribe Hans for command-line option and volunteer to write man
pages for TeX Live (for ConTeXt they are still missing)
2.) bribe Jonathan to add a primitive
(but have a good excuse for it :)

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Total number of figures/tables, etc.

2008-06-29 Thread Hans Hagen
Aditya Mahajan wrote:
 On Sun, 29 Jun 2008, Oleg Kolosov wrote:
 
 Hi!

 Is there are an easy way to get total number of pages/tables/figures
 etc.? \getnumber[table] of \getnumber[figure] returns 0,
 \getnumber[page] gives some irrelevant number. I've found command
 \totalnumberofpages, is there are something similar for others? It would
 be great to also automatically change the following word as in:

 1 figure, but 2 figures

 Is there support for that in ConTeXt?
 
 No, but it is easy to define this on your own. To Hans: Is 
 reading utilities not implemented in mkiv? The following works fine with 
 mkii but not with mkiv.

in mkiv i load at everyjob time instead of everystarttext

this should work (patch in core-uti.mkiv) but i wonder why i used everyjob

% \to \everyjob
\to \everystarttext

 \def\noffigures {1}
 
 \def\savenoffigures
{\savecurrentvalue{\noffigures}{\getnumber[figure]}}
 
 \appendtoks \savenoffigures \to \everystoptext
 
 \def\shownoffigures
{\noffigures\ %
 \doifelse{\noffigures}{1}{figure}{figures}}
 
 \starttext
 
 This text has \shownoffigures.
 
 \dorecurse{10}{\placefigure{something}{} \input knuth \endgraf }
 
 \stoptext
 
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Re: [NTG-context] Include SVG pictures with ConTeXt

2008-06-29 Thread TeXWorld
Hans Hagen a écrit :
 Taco Hoekwater wrote:
   
 TeXWorld wrote:
 
 TeXWorld a écrit :
   
 Hello,

 I wonder if it is possible to include SVG picture directly in ConTeXt 
 without conversion.
 Thank you.


 Jack
   
 
 No answer.  Does it mean that it's not possible ?
   
 Not that I know of, but I was hoping someone else did.
 

 \usemodule[res-08] \setups[rl:manipulate]

 \setupexternalfigures[location=local,directory=.,conversion=pdf] % 
 lowres,prefix=lowres/]

 \starttext

 \externalfigure[svg/ausmap.svg][frame=on]

 \stoptext

 it assumes inkscape being present

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Sorry but I've got problems to compile this code. Inkscape is present.
Besides, with this solution, will Context format the labels of my SVG 
picture with the right font ?


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Re: [NTG-context] distro info

2008-06-29 Thread Jesse Alama
Mojca Miklavec [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 6:35 PM, Jesse Alama wrote:
 Thomas A. Schmitz writes:

 The basis for my own comments in this thread do not lie in a preference
 for graphical tools, but rather for a straightforward way to stay
 up-to-date with the whole of ConTeXt in a way that ctxtools does not
 currently provide.  A command-line interface for that would be great,
 and so would a graphical tool.

 That's not a general solution, but if you need it for yourself, you
 can put the following to some file and execute it whenever you want:

 rsync -av rsync://contextgarden.net/minimals/current/context/beta/
 /path/to/your/texmf/
 rsync -av rsync://contextgarden.net/minimals/current/bin/luatex/linux/bin/
 /path/to/your/binaries/
 etc.

 There's a limited set of folders that you need to update, and it will
 only update new files, you don't need to update everything.

Two questions:

1. What's the difference between getting the texmf tree using rsync, as
you suggest, and using ctxtools --updatecontext?  Are those equivalent?

2. It looks like the subdirectories that I want are

  common
  context
  luatex
  man
  metapost

if I want to follow only luatex development.  (The only subdirectories
that aren't in that list are mswin, which doesn't apply to me, and
pdftex and xetex.)  I'd like to just put this on top of my TeXLive
(2007) distribution.  Once I copy thse binaries to my TeXLive binary
directory, what's the next step?  Do I need to rebuild the ConTeXt
format, for example?

What I'm looking for is a way to keep up-to-date with ConTeXt and LuaTeX
development; I'd rather not keep a separate installation with all and
only ConTeXt in it, together with a shell script that sets up *only*
ConTeXt.  I'm happy to keep up-to-date by overwriting the relevant parts
of my TeXLive distribution with the freshest texmf and binaries.  That
way, within a single shell I can use the freshest ConTeXt as well as
LaTeX and pacakges from the TeX Collection.  Perhaps I am going against
the intention of the minimal installation; but the discussion of how
to get a minimal ConTeXt installation overlaps with the discussion of
how to stay up-to-date.  I'm more interested in the latter than the
former.  Perhaps the best thing for such a user would be to just track
the TeXLive development tree using cvs or rsync.  I'm curious to hear
any suggetions.

Thanks,

Jesse

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Jesse Alama ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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