Re: [NTG-context] \cite command (bib-module)

2008-09-11 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz

On Sep 12, 2008, at 8:25 AM, Taco Hoekwater wrote:

> Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
>> I had a quick look at the source, and it doesn't look like you can
>> have three [] arguments after \cite. So you can't have \cite[STYLE]
>> [EXTRAS][KEY],
>
> But you can do:
>
>   \cite[KEY][alternative=STYLE,extras=EXTRAS]
>
> Best wishes,
> Taco

Ah, I should have taken a longer look! Very elegant, thanks Taco. But  
maybe hooking the \setupcite setup into the \setufootnotes "before"  
option is more efficient than adding the style manually every time.

All best

Thomas 
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Re: [NTG-context] span ROWS in \starttables?

2008-09-11 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 8:13 AM, Alan BRASLAU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Is there any mechanism to span ROWS in (\start)tables
> similar to column spanning through \use{3}{}?
> The aim is to produce a multi-row column entry
> as can be done via \bTD[nr=3] in \bTABLE.

\NC \use{3} ... \NC ...

or

\NC \THREE ... \NC ...

You can find more information on the wiki page:
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Table

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Re: [NTG-context] width of cell in TABLE

2008-09-11 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 10:58 PM, Peter Münster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> How could I get a column with 0 width (useful for dummy columns).
>
> Example, that shows, that the width is not 0:
>
> \starttext
> \setupTABLE[width=0pt, offset=0pt, height=1cm]
> \bTABLE
> \bTR\bTD\eTD\eTR
> \eTABLE
> \framed[width=0pt, offset=0pt, height=1cm]{}
> \stoptext

use offset=overlay

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Re: [NTG-context] One very silly question

2008-09-11 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 8:13 AM, Yue Wang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi, Hans:
>
>> no, in such cases, just create another typeface with relevant fonts
>> using smallcaps and then switch to that typeface
>
> OK. I see. Thanks.
>
>> hm, it's nbot that complex, just define a featureset and use it; one can
>> even adapt features in between if needed (dynamic features)
>
> How to use dynamic features? it is not documented in co-typography and 
> co-fonts.
> is there such interface like:
>
> \definefeature[onum][onum=yes]
> \definefeature[smcp][smcp=yes]

\def\onum{\setfontfeature{onum}}

> {\rm\bf\onum\smcp Hello 2008!}

Don't do this, this has nothing to do with logical markup and the
better way is to
write {\definedfont[SerifBold*onum]Hello 2008!} ...

>> you can be pretty sure that whatever you 'predefine'
>> (font-blabla-using-oldstyle-and-smallcaps) will have exceptions and then
>> we end up with n! possible combinations
>
> not n!, but 2^n.
>
> last question: is it possible to add fontconfig-like interface? if I
> define to use minion famaily, then all the alternatives are
> automatically defined like xetex?

Hans need fonts to test this but I could provide you a typescript
based solution,
it's not so elegant as the XeTeX method but it works.

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Re: [NTG-context] \cite command (bib-module)

2008-09-11 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
> I had a quick look at the source, and it doesn't look like you can  
> have three [] arguments after \cite. So you can't have \cite[STYLE] 
> [EXTRAS][KEY], 

But you can do:

   \cite[KEY][alternative=STYLE,extras=EXTRAS]

Best wishes,
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Re: [NTG-context] One very silly question

2008-09-11 Thread Yue Wang
Hi, Hans:

> no, in such cases, just create another typeface with relevant fonts
> using smallcaps and then switch to that typeface

OK. I see. Thanks.

> hm, it's nbot that complex, just define a featureset and use it; one can
> even adapt features in between if needed (dynamic features)

How to use dynamic features? it is not documented in co-typography and co-fonts.
is there such interface like:

\definefeature[onum][onum=yes]
\definefeature[smcp][smcp=yes]
{\rm\bf\onum\smcp Hello 2008!}

>
> you can be pretty sure that whatever you 'predefine'
> (font-blabla-using-oldstyle-and-smallcaps) will have exceptions and then
> we end up with n! possible combinations

not n!, but 2^n.

last question: is it possible to add fontconfig-like interface? if I
define to use minion famaily, then all the alternatives are
automatically defined like xetex?

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[NTG-context] span ROWS in \starttables?

2008-09-11 Thread Alan BRASLAU
Hello,

Is there any mechanism to span ROWS in (\start)tables
similar to column spanning through \use{3}{}?
The aim is to produce a multi-row column entry
as can be done via \bTD[nr=3] in \bTABLE.

Thanks

Alan

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Re: [NTG-context] installation of ConTeXt

2008-09-11 Thread Goebel, Juergen
Mojca Miklavec wrote:

> There are two alternatives for installing ruby. Take this one:
> http://rubyinstaller.rubyforge.org/wiki/wiki.pl?RubyInstaller

Thanks, I'll give it a try (installation is already running).

Juergen
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Re: [NTG-context] installation of ConTeXt

2008-09-11 Thread Goebel, Juergen
Hans Hagen wrote:

> no, try to avoid cygwin

\absoluterelief

Thanks,

Juergen
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Re: [NTG-context] fitting a picture to the available space

2008-09-11 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz

On Sep 11, 2008, at 7:59 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:

>
> On Sep 11, 2008, at 6:20 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
>
>>> \starttext
>>>
>>> \start
>>>
>>> \setbox\scratchbox\vbox{\externalfigure[mill]}
>>>
>>> \dimen0=\wd\scratchbox
>>> \dimen2=\ht\scratchbox
>>>
>>> \framed[frame=on,strut=no,width=8cm,height=2cm]
>>> {\dimen1=\hsize \divide\dimen1 by \dimen0
>>> \dimen3=\vsize \divide\dimen3 by \dimen2
>>> \ifdim\dimen1>\dimen3
>>>   \externalfigure[mill][height=\vsize]
>>> \else
>>>   \externalfigure[mill][width=\hsize]
>>> \fi}
>>>
>>> \framed[frame=on,strut=no,width=2cm,height=8cm]
>>> {\dimen1=\hsize \divide\dimen1 by \dimen0
>>> \dimen3=\vsize \divide\dimen3 by \dimen2
>>> \ifdim\dimen1>\dimen3
>>>   \externalfigure[mill][height=\vsize]
>>> \else
>>>   \externalfigure[mill][width=\hsize]
>>> \fi}
>>>
>>> \stop
>>>
>>> \stoptext
>>>
>>> Wolfgang
>>
>> Wolfgang,
>>
>> as always, you're a source of wisdom and knowledge... Just I
>> understand this correctly and can adapt it to my macro: \dimen1=
>> \hsize: here \hsize refers to the size of the \framed inside which
>> we're operating, right?
>
> And another question: I get an error "! Illegal unit of measure (pt
> inserted)." Is it really possible to divide a dimension by another
> dimension? Not according to what I read here: 
> http://www.tug.org/utilities/plain/cseq.html#divide-rp
>  "must be a nonzero integer." See, I'm far from being a native
> speaker of TeX...
>
I now have something along these lines (ugly code ahead!):

\setbox\scratchbox\vbox{\externalfigure[mill]%
\dimen0=\wd\scratchbox%
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
\def\@@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
\dimen4=\textwidth \divide\dimen4 by \@@WD%
\dimen2=\ht\scratchbox%
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
\def\@@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
\dimen6=\textheight \divide\dimen6 by \@@HT%
\ifdim\dimen4>\dimen6%
  \def\Myheight{\textheight}\def\Mywidth{}%
\else%
  \def\Mywidth{\textwidth}\def\Myheight{}%
\fi

and then use height=\Myheight,width=\Mywidth. Bu there's still a  
problem... Anyway, does it make sense in general?

Thomas
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Re: [NTG-context] rows and columns in TABLE (fwd)

2008-09-11 Thread Peter Münster
Hello,

I would like to adjust the height of each row. But I manage to get the
desired result only with a seventh dummy column. Consider this example with
and without the mode "seven":

%\enablemode[seven]
\starttext
\setupTABLE[r][2,3,4,5,6,7][height=6ex]
\bTABLE[width=0.125\textwidth]
\bTR
\bTH 1. col\eTH
\bTH 2. col\eTH
\bTH 3. col\eTH
\bTH 4. col\eTH
\bTH 5. col\eTH
\bTH 6. col\eTH
\doifmode{seven}{\bTH 7. col\eTH}
\eTR
\bTR
\bTD[nr=6]6 rows in 1. col\eTD
\bTD[nr=2]2 rows in 2. col\eTD
\bTD[nr=6]6 rows in 3. col\eTD
\bTD[nr=2]2 rows in 4. col\eTD
\bTD 1 row in 5. col\eTD
\bTD[nr=2]2 rows in 6. col\eTD
\doifmode{seven}{\bTD\eTD}
\eTR
\bTR
\bTD[nr=2] 2 rows in 5. col\eTD
\doifmode{seven}{\bTD\eTD}
\eTR
\bTR
\bTD[nr=2]2 rows in 2. col\eTD
\bTD[nr=2]2 rows in 4. col\eTD
\bTD[nr=4]4 rows in 6. col\eTD
\doifmode{seven}{\bTD\eTD}
\eTR
\bTR
\bTD[nr=2] 2 rows in 5. col\eTD
\doifmode{seven}{\bTD\eTD}
\eTR
\bTR
\bTD[nr=2]2 rows in 2. col\eTD
\bTD[nr=2]2 rows in 4. col\eTD
\doifmode{seven}{\bTD\eTD}
\eTR
\bTR
\bTD 1 row in 5. col\eTD
\doifmode{seven}{\bTD\eTD}
\eTR
\eTABLE
\stoptext

Any hints, you to adjust the heights without the dummy column?

TIA for any help!
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[NTG-context] width of cell in TABLE

2008-09-11 Thread Peter Münster
Hello,

How could I get a column with 0 width (useful for dummy columns).

Example, that shows, that the width is not 0:

\starttext
\setupTABLE[width=0pt, offset=0pt, height=1cm]
\bTABLE
\bTR\bTD\eTD\eTR
\eTABLE
\framed[width=0pt, offset=0pt, height=1cm]{}
\stoptext

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[NTG-context] \mathop inside \sometxt in MKIV

2008-09-11 Thread Aditya Mahajan
Hi,

I am using ConTeXt  ver: 2008.09.10 14:01 MKIV  fmt: 2008.9.11 and the 
following file

\starttext
\startMPcode
   label.bot(\sometxt{$\mathop{}$}, origin) ;
\stopMPcode

\stoptext

gives


! Missing number, treated as zero.

##
\purenumber ...firstofoneargument [EMAIL PROTECTED] {\number #1
   }
\PDFobjref #1->\purenumber {#1}
 0 R
l.46 \def\PDFobjref#
 1{\purenumber{#1} 0 R}
?
! Missing number, treated as zero.

##


It runs correctly with MKII. Any ideas?

Aditya
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[NTG-context] frameoffset in textbackground

2008-09-11 Thread Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini
Hallo,

I asked this question a week ago, but got no answer.

Does anybody know what is 'frameoffset' for?

I can not see any difference with and without this parameter.

--
\setupcolors[state=start]
\definetextbackground[strong]
  [backgroundcolor=lightgray,
   location=paragraph,
   frame=on,
   frameoffset=5mm]

\starttext
bla

\starttextbackground[strong]
zack
\stoptextbackground

blub
\stoptext


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Re: [NTG-context] fitting a picture to the available space

2008-09-11 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz

On Sep 11, 2008, at 6:20 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:

>> \starttext
>>
>> \start
>>
>> \setbox\scratchbox\vbox{\externalfigure[mill]}
>>
>> \dimen0=\wd\scratchbox
>> \dimen2=\ht\scratchbox
>>
>> \framed[frame=on,strut=no,width=8cm,height=2cm]
>> {\dimen1=\hsize \divide\dimen1 by \dimen0
>>  \dimen3=\vsize \divide\dimen3 by \dimen2
>>  \ifdim\dimen1>\dimen3
>>\externalfigure[mill][height=\vsize]
>>  \else
>>\externalfigure[mill][width=\hsize]
>>  \fi}
>>
>> \framed[frame=on,strut=no,width=2cm,height=8cm]
>> {\dimen1=\hsize \divide\dimen1 by \dimen0
>>  \dimen3=\vsize \divide\dimen3 by \dimen2
>>  \ifdim\dimen1>\dimen3
>>\externalfigure[mill][height=\vsize]
>>  \else
>>\externalfigure[mill][width=\hsize]
>>  \fi}
>>
>> \stop
>>
>> \stoptext
>>
>> Wolfgang
>
> Wolfgang,
>
> as always, you're a source of wisdom and knowledge... Just I
> understand this correctly and can adapt it to my macro: \dimen1=
> \hsize: here \hsize refers to the size of the \framed inside which
> we're operating, right?

And another question: I get an error "! Illegal unit of measure (pt  
inserted)." Is it really possible to divide a dimension by another  
dimension? Not according to what I read here: 
http://www.tug.org/utilities/plain/cseq.html#divide-rp 
  "must be a nonzero integer." See, I'm far from being a native  
speaker of TeX...

Best

Thomas
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Re: [NTG-context] One very silly question

2008-09-11 Thread Hans Hagen
Yue Wang wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I read the manual, and it said:
> 
> rm, ss,tt,hw,cg are styles, bf,it,bi,sl,bs, sc, os, tf are alternatives.
> one can use one alternative in one style like \rm\bf.
> However, I think we should add more alternatives like boldsmallcaps or
> bold old style number?

no, in such cases, just create another typeface with relevant fonts 
using smallcaps and then switch to that typeface

> in opentype, smcp, onum are just features, and every alternatives
> (like bold, bold italic) have them.
> 
> btw, I think there should be a (fontconfig like) mechanism for setting
> up opentype fonts easier?

hm, it's nbot that complex, just define a featureset and use it; one can 
even adapt features in between if needed (dynamic features)

you can be pretty sure that whatever you 'predefine' 
(font-blabla-using-oldstyle-and-smallcaps) will have exceptions and then 
we end up with n! possible combinations

Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] fitting a picture to the available space

2008-09-11 Thread Hans Hagen
Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
> On Sep 11, 2008, at 4:13 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 3:28 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> On Sep 11, 2008, at 10:04 AM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
>>>
 On Sep 11, 2008, at 9:28 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:

> \starttext
>
> \framed[width=5cm,height4cm]{\externalfigure[mill.png]
> [maxwidth=3cm,maxheight=4cm,width=10cm]}
>
> \stoptext
>
> seems to work
 Ah of course! I could set the width to an absurdly high number and  
 so
 make sure that it will always reach the maxheight/maxwidth, no  
 matter
 what the ratio! This seems to work, thanks a lot!

>>> Alas, I spake too soon. Here is an example:
>>>
>>> \starttext
>>>
>>> \framed[frame=on,strut=no,width=8cm,height=2cm]
>>> {\externalfigure[mill.png][maxwidth=8cm,maxheight=2cm,width=10cm]}
>>>
>>> \stoptext
>>>
>>> I would expect the picture to stay within the maxheight, but it  
>>> doesn't.
>> You could write your own macros and comapre the width/height ration  
>> of the
>> picture with the reation of the box, is simple example is shown below.
>>
>> \starttext
>>
>> \start
>>
>> \setbox\scratchbox\vbox{\externalfigure[mill]}
>>
>> \dimen0=\wd\scratchbox
>> \dimen2=\ht\scratchbox
>>
>> \framed[frame=on,strut=no,width=8cm,height=2cm]
>>  {\dimen1=\hsize \divide\dimen1 by \dimen0
>>   \dimen3=\vsize \divide\dimen3 by \dimen2
>>   \ifdim\dimen1>\dimen3
>> \externalfigure[mill][height=\vsize]
>>   \else
>> \externalfigure[mill][width=\hsize]
>>   \fi}
>>
>> \framed[frame=on,strut=no,width=2cm,height=8cm]
>>  {\dimen1=\hsize \divide\dimen1 by \dimen0
>>   \dimen3=\vsize \divide\dimen3 by \dimen2
>>   \ifdim\dimen1>\dimen3
>> \externalfigure[mill][height=\vsize]
>>   \else
>> \externalfigure[mill][width=\hsize]
>>   \fi}
>>
>> \stop
>>
>> \stoptext
>>
>> Wolfgang
> 
> Wolfgang,
> 
> as always, you're a source of wisdom and knowledge... Just I  
> understand this correctly and can adapt it to my macro: \dimen1= 
> \hsize: here \hsize refers to the size of the \framed inside which  
> we're operating, right?

be careful ... use \dimen4 and 6 instead of 1 and 3, by convention odd 
registers < 10 are used global

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Re: [NTG-context] fitting a picture to the available space

2008-09-11 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 12:06 AM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I'm pulling my hair out. I'm trying to set up an automatism to fit
> pictures to the available space on a slide.

Hello,

I'm probably talking about something else, though highly related.
There's one thing that I often miss on slides:

*Here's a title*

- here are
- some items

[and I want the picture to fill up all the remaining space on slide]

Or even if there' only title + image. I tried option=max (or something
similar), but always ended up setting image size manually. Most often
I got title on one page and image on another (It would be less painful
to have image on the same page, even if it hangs much over the lower
border - is there something similar to \placefigure[thispage] option
(puts the figure on the same page, even if there's no space left)?)

Mojca

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Re: [NTG-context] installation of ConTeXt

2008-09-11 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Goebel, Juergen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Do I really have to install ruby?  I downloaded it, but can't find
> anything like install, setup or something like this.

There are two alternatives for installing ruby. Take this one:
http://rubyinstaller.rubyforge.org/wiki/wiki.pl?RubyInstaller

> Even the
> readme is not very helpful at all.  And another question: for
> using Ruby - and therefore ConTeXt - do I need cygwin?

No. It does more harm than good.

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Re: [NTG-context] fitting a picture to the available space

2008-09-11 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz

On Sep 11, 2008, at 4:13 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 3:28 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> On Sep 11, 2008, at 10:04 AM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Sep 11, 2008, at 9:28 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:
>>>
 \starttext

 \framed[width=5cm,height4cm]{\externalfigure[mill.png]
 [maxwidth=3cm,maxheight=4cm,width=10cm]}

 \stoptext

 seems to work
>>>
>>> Ah of course! I could set the width to an absurdly high number and  
>>> so
>>> make sure that it will always reach the maxheight/maxwidth, no  
>>> matter
>>> what the ratio! This seems to work, thanks a lot!
>>>
>>
>> Alas, I spake too soon. Here is an example:
>>
>> \starttext
>>
>> \framed[frame=on,strut=no,width=8cm,height=2cm]
>> {\externalfigure[mill.png][maxwidth=8cm,maxheight=2cm,width=10cm]}
>>
>> \stoptext
>>
>> I would expect the picture to stay within the maxheight, but it  
>> doesn't.
>
> You could write your own macros and comapre the width/height ration  
> of the
> picture with the reation of the box, is simple example is shown below.
>
> \starttext
>
> \start
>
> \setbox\scratchbox\vbox{\externalfigure[mill]}
>
> \dimen0=\wd\scratchbox
> \dimen2=\ht\scratchbox
>
> \framed[frame=on,strut=no,width=8cm,height=2cm]
>  {\dimen1=\hsize \divide\dimen1 by \dimen0
>   \dimen3=\vsize \divide\dimen3 by \dimen2
>   \ifdim\dimen1>\dimen3
> \externalfigure[mill][height=\vsize]
>   \else
> \externalfigure[mill][width=\hsize]
>   \fi}
>
> \framed[frame=on,strut=no,width=2cm,height=8cm]
>  {\dimen1=\hsize \divide\dimen1 by \dimen0
>   \dimen3=\vsize \divide\dimen3 by \dimen2
>   \ifdim\dimen1>\dimen3
> \externalfigure[mill][height=\vsize]
>   \else
> \externalfigure[mill][width=\hsize]
>   \fi}
>
> \stop
>
> \stoptext
>
> Wolfgang

Wolfgang,

as always, you're a source of wisdom and knowledge... Just I  
understand this correctly and can adapt it to my macro: \dimen1= 
\hsize: here \hsize refers to the size of the \framed inside which  
we're operating, right?

Thomas
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[NTG-context] Request for "digested" readers: please change subject

2008-09-11 Thread Mojca Miklavec
Hello,

ConTeXt mailing list is really a huge one and an overkill to follow it
as a whole.

But to all those of you who read mail in digested mode: feel free to
hit reply and answer there, but then please:
a) delete all the other non-relevant 24 messages in the digest
b) If original subject was "ConTeXt rules!", please change the subject from
"ntg-context Digest, Vol X, Issue Y"
into
"Re: ConTeXt rules!" or "Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt rules!"

It will still mess up the threading a bit (this happens a lot anyway),
but simplify matters to all other readers of the mailing list.

I think that gmane offers some possibility to answer via their
interface as well, but I have never tried it.

Thanks a lot,
 Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] \cite command (bib-module)

2008-09-11 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz

On Sep 11, 2008, at 5:01 PM, Martin Hoher wrote:

> Thank you for your answer. The first example works.
>
> The result is: "Goldstein (2003)" but unfortunately it is impossible  
> to
> combine it with the [extras={:95}] option to get the page number  
> behind
> the citation.
> If you type \cite [authoryear][extras={:95}] it won't work.
> Although I've tried it with the [authoryear,page] nothing works.
> The result of the second example is "Goldstein (vgl. 2003)". I've  
> tried
> to use the left={} option instead, but nothing changed.
> \setupcite
> [authoryear]
> [pubsep={, },
>  lastpubsep={ und },
>  compress=yes,
>  inbetween={},
>  left={(vgl. },
>  right={)}]
>
> still leads to the result Goldstein (vgl. 2003) when I type in the
> command \cite [authoryear][G:2003]. It seems to be impossible to place
> something (like "vgl.") in front of the name of the author and  
> inside of
> the brackets like (vgl. Goldstein 2003:95)

Sorry, in the second case, you'll need the option "authoryears":

\setupcite
[authoryears]
[pubsep={, },
 lastpubsep={ und },
 compress=yes,
 inbetween={ },
 left={(vgl. },
 right={)}]


I had a quick look at the source, and it doesn't look like you can  
have three [] arguments after \cite. So you can't have \cite[STYLE] 
[EXTRAS][KEY], you must use the \setuppublications command and set the  
default. If you want to have a different citation style in the  
footnotes and in the main text, you will probably want to have a  
\setuppublications[refcommand=authoryears] in the setup of your  
footnotes (see p. 101 of cont-eni.pdf).

Thomas
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Re: [NTG-context] A ConTeXt bug tracker to keep track of reported bugs?

2008-09-11 Thread Hans Hagen
Khaled Hosny wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 09:24:52AM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:
>> Khaled Hosny wrote:
>>> I've reported several bugs (mostly Arabic related) and I'm afraid it
>>> might get lost as time goes, I wonder if there is a bug tracker for
>> they're still in my mailbox ... time ...
> I'm afraid that I'm the one who is going to lose track of them :) So, 
> should I report those bugs to the tracker.luatex.org or there is no
> need?

if bugs are collected and come with proper test files i normally look at 
them (otherwise remind me); with regards to arabic, best coordinate this 
  with idris as well bcause eventually he will write the manual and also 
because the oriental tex project is closely related to luatex

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Re: [NTG-context] ntg-context Digest, Vol 51, Issue 44

2008-09-11 Thread Martin Hoher
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:13:59 +0200
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> Subject: Re: [NTG-context] ntg-context Digest, Vol 51, Issue 36
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> 
> No, not with my oldtimer.
> 
>> (J?rgen, in case that you are still using the old version of ConTeXt -
>> *many* aspects have improved since then, including encodings and
>> regimes, so before starting complaining that something doesn't work,
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:19:59 +0200
> From: Martin Hoher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [NTG-context] use of the \cite command (bib-module)
> To: ntg-context@ntg.nl
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> 
> Hello,
> 
> concerning the bib-module and the \cite command I've got two questions:
> 
> (1)   The output in the text of the document should look like this:
> Goldstein (2003:95).
>   The name of the author should be located on the outside of the  
> brackets.
> 
>   
>   Goldstein refers to the name of the author, 2003 is the year of 
> publication and 95 is the relevant page number.
>   My approach until now:  \cite[extras={:95}][G:2003] It generates
> the
> following output: (Goldstein 2003:95)
> 
> 
> (2)   The output in the text should look like this:
>   (vgl. Goldstein 2003:95)
>   My intention is to place the expression "vgl." in front of the  
> authorname and inside of the brackets.
> 
> If someone has an idea to solve this little problem, it will be great to
> here from you soon.
> 
> Greetings
> Martin
>> Hello,
>>
>> concerning the bib-module and the \cite command I've got two  
>> questions:
>>
>> (1)  The output in the text of the document should look like this:
>>Goldstein (2003:95).
>>  The name of the author should be located on the outside of the  
>>  
>> brackets.
>>
>>  
>>  Goldstein refers to the name of the author, 2003 is the year of 
>> publication and 95 is the relevant page number.
>>  My approach until now:  \cite[extras={:95}][G:2003] It generates
>> the
>> following output: (Goldstein 2003:95)
>>
> \setupcite
> [authoryear]
> [pubsep={, },
>  lastpubsep={ und },
>  compress=yes,
>  inbetween={ (},
>  left={},
>  right={)}]
> 
> (chapter 2.3 of the bib manual)
> 
>> (2)  The output in the text should look like this:
>>  (vgl. Goldstein 2003:95)
>>  My intention is to place the expression "vgl." in front of the  
>> authorname and inside of the brackets.
> 
> \setupcite
> [authoryear]
> [pubsep={, },
>  lastpubsep={ und },
>  compress=yes,
>  inbetween={ (vgl. },
>  left={},
>  right={)}]
> 
> HTH
> 
> Thomas

Hello,
I've found my fault:

\setupcite
   [authoryears]
   [pubsep={, },
  lastpubsep={ und },
  compress=yes,
  inbetween={ (vgl. },
  left={},
  right={)}]

with this you'll get
(vgl. Goldstein 2003)

The only problem left is the use of the [extras={:10}] option in
combination with [authoryears] to include the page number.

Martin

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[NTG-context] One very silly question

2008-09-11 Thread Yue Wang
Hi,

I read the manual, and it said:

rm, ss,tt,hw,cg are styles, bf,it,bi,sl,bs, sc, os, tf are alternatives.
one can use one alternative in one style like \rm\bf.
However, I think we should add more alternatives like boldsmallcaps or
bold old style number?

in opentype, smcp, onum are just features, and every alternatives
(like bold, bold italic) have them.

btw, I think there should be a (fontconfig like) mechanism for setting
up opentype fonts easier?

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Re: [NTG-context] \cite command (bib-module)

2008-09-11 Thread Martin Hoher

> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:35:59 +0200
> From: "Thomas A. Schmitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [NTG-context] use of the \cite command (bib-module)
> To: mailing list for ConTeXt users 
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
> 
> 
> On Sep 11, 2008, at 12:19 PM, Martin Hoher wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>>
>> concerning the bib-module and the \cite command I've got two  
>> questions:
>>
>> (1)  The output in the text of the document should look like this:
>>Goldstein (2003:95).
>>  The name of the author should be located on the outside of the  
>>  
>> brackets.
>>
>>  
>>  Goldstein refers to the name of the author, 2003 is the year of 
>> publication and 95 is the relevant page number.
>>  My approach until now:  \cite[extras={:95}][G:2003] It generates the
>> following output: (Goldstein 2003:95)
>>
> \setupcite
> [authoryear]
> [pubsep={, },
>  lastpubsep={ und },
>  compress=yes,
>  inbetween={ (},
>  left={},
>  right={)}]
> 
> (chapter 2.3 of the bib manual)
> 
>> (2)  The output in the text should look like this:
>>  (vgl. Goldstein 2003:95)
>>  My intention is to place the expression "vgl." in front of the  
>> authorname and inside of the brackets.
> 
> \setupcite
> [authoryear]
> [pubsep={, },
>  lastpubsep={ und },
>  compress=yes,
>  inbetween={ (vgl. },
>  left={},
>  right={)}]
> 
> HTH
> 
> Thomas

Thank you for your answer. The first example works.

The result is: "Goldstein (2003)" but unfortunately it is impossible to
combine it with the [extras={:95}] option to get the page number behind
the citation.
If you type \cite [authoryear][extras={:95}] it won't work.
Although I've tried it with the [authoryear,page] nothing works.

The result of the second example is "Goldstein (vgl. 2003)". I've tried
to use the left={} option instead, but nothing changed.
\setupcite
 [authoryear]
 [pubsep={, },
  lastpubsep={ und },
  compress=yes,
  inbetween={},
  left={(vgl. },
  right={)}]

 still leads to the result Goldstein (vgl. 2003) when I type in the
command \cite [authoryear][G:2003]. It seems to be impossible to place
something (like "vgl.") in front of the name of the author and inside of
the brackets like (vgl. Goldstein 2003:95)

I couldn't find anything specific about these problems in the
bib-manual. Perhaps you or someone else can help me?

Regards
Martin









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Re: [NTG-context] fitting a picture to the available space

2008-09-11 Thread Hans Hagen
Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
> On Sep 11, 2008, at 4:01 PM, Peter Rolf wrote:
> 
>> Hi Thomas,
>>
>> I tried the above solution for the creation of figure libraries a few
>> hours ago... with the same result. Using 'height=10cm' instead of
>> 'width=10cm' should work in this case. At least this workaround gives
>> the right results for my squared graphics (icons). Anyhow, this is no
>> general solution...
>>
>> Best, Peter
> 
> Hi Peter,
> 
> yes, unfortunately I'm looking for a general solution for images whose  
> dimensions and ratio are not known beforehand. Looks like we're all  
> hitting the same snag...

the problem is that in mkii the macros involved in this are rather 
complex; i'm considering a pure lua solution but that would not be fully 
  compatible with mkii (i.e. it would be more clever and precise)

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Re: [NTG-context] fitting a picture to the available space

2008-09-11 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz

On Sep 11, 2008, at 4:01 PM, Peter Rolf wrote:

> Hi Thomas,
>
> I tried the above solution for the creation of figure libraries a few
> hours ago... with the same result. Using 'height=10cm' instead of
> 'width=10cm' should work in this case. At least this workaround gives
> the right results for my squared graphics (icons). Anyhow, this is no
> general solution...
>
> Best, Peter

Hi Peter,

yes, unfortunately I'm looking for a general solution for images whose  
dimensions and ratio are not known beforehand. Looks like we're all  
hitting the same snag...

Best

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Re: [NTG-context] installation of ConTeXt

2008-09-11 Thread Hans Hagen
Goebel, Juergen wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Do I really have to install ruby?  I downloaded it, but can't find
> anything like install, setup or something like this.  Even the
> readme is not very helpful at all.  And another question: for
> using Ruby - and therefore ConTeXt - do I need cygwin?

no, try to avoid cygwin

just download ruby (mswin version), unzip/install it in say c:\ruby and 
then add c:\ruby\bin to your windows path

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[NTG-context] installation of ConTeXt

2008-09-11 Thread Goebel, Juergen
Hi,

Do I really have to install ruby?  I downloaded it, but can't find
anything like install, setup or something like this.  Even the
readme is not very helpful at all.  And another question: for
using Ruby - and therefore ConTeXt - do I need cygwin?

Regards,

Juergen


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Re: [NTG-context] fitting a picture to the available space

2008-09-11 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 3:28 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Sep 11, 2008, at 10:04 AM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
>
>>
>> On Sep 11, 2008, at 9:28 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:
>>
>>> \starttext
>>>
>>> \framed[width=5cm,height4cm]{\externalfigure[mill.png]
>>> [maxwidth=3cm,maxheight=4cm,width=10cm]}
>>>
>>> \stoptext
>>>
>>> seems to work
>>
>> Ah of course! I could set the width to an absurdly high number and so
>> make sure that it will always reach the maxheight/maxwidth, no matter
>> what the ratio! This seems to work, thanks a lot!
>>
>
> Alas, I spake too soon. Here is an example:
>
> \starttext
>
> \framed[frame=on,strut=no,width=8cm,height=2cm]
>  {\externalfigure[mill.png][maxwidth=8cm,maxheight=2cm,width=10cm]}
>
> \stoptext
>
> I would expect the picture to stay within the maxheight, but it doesn't.

You could write your own macros and comapre the width/height ration of the
picture with the reation of the box, is simple example is shown below.

\starttext

\start

\setbox\scratchbox\vbox{\externalfigure[mill]}

\dimen0=\wd\scratchbox
\dimen2=\ht\scratchbox

\framed[frame=on,strut=no,width=8cm,height=2cm]
  {\dimen1=\hsize \divide\dimen1 by \dimen0
   \dimen3=\vsize \divide\dimen3 by \dimen2
   \ifdim\dimen1>\dimen3
 \externalfigure[mill][height=\vsize]
   \else
 \externalfigure[mill][width=\hsize]
   \fi}

\framed[frame=on,strut=no,width=2cm,height=8cm]
  {\dimen1=\hsize \divide\dimen1 by \dimen0
   \dimen3=\vsize \divide\dimen3 by \dimen2
   \ifdim\dimen1>\dimen3
 \externalfigure[mill][height=\vsize]
   \else
 \externalfigure[mill][width=\hsize]
   \fi}

\stop

\stoptext

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] fitting a picture to the available space

2008-09-11 Thread Peter Rolf
Thomas A. Schmitz schrieb:
> On Sep 11, 2008, at 10:04 AM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
> 
>> On Sep 11, 2008, at 9:28 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:
>>
>>> \starttext
>>>
>>> \framed[width=5cm,height4cm]{\externalfigure[mill.png]
>>> [maxwidth=3cm,maxheight=4cm,width=10cm]}
>>>
>>> \stoptext
>>>
>>> seems to work
>> Ah of course! I could set the width to an absurdly high number and so
>> make sure that it will always reach the maxheight/maxwidth, no matter
>> what the ratio! This seems to work, thanks a lot!
>>
> 
> Alas, I spake too soon. Here is an example:
> 
> \starttext
> 
> \framed[frame=on,strut=no,width=8cm,height=2cm]
>   {\externalfigure[mill.png][maxwidth=8cm,maxheight=2cm,width=10cm]}
> 
> \stoptext
> 
> I would expect the picture to stay within the maxheight, but it doesn't.
>

Hi Thomas,

I tried the above solution for the creation of figure libraries a few
hours ago... with the same result. Using 'height=10cm' instead of
'width=10cm' should work in this case. At least this workaround gives
the right results for my squared graphics (icons). Anyhow, this is no
general solution...

Best, Peter


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Re: [NTG-context] ntg-context Digest, Vol 51, Issue 36

2008-09-11 Thread Goebel, Juergen
Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

> Can you try my updated version of the two buggy files, I think I found
> the problem and want to be sure.

Both versions still show no sharp s,
but it's the oldtimer running.  The
download of the new version will soon
be finished and tomorrow I'll install
it - hopefully successfull!

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Re: [NTG-context] A ConTeXt bug tracker to keep track of reported bugs?

2008-09-11 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 09:24:52AM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:
> Khaled Hosny wrote:
> > I've reported several bugs (mostly Arabic related) and I'm afraid it
> > might get lost as time goes, I wonder if there is a bug tracker for
> 
> they're still in my mailbox ... time ...
I'm afraid that I'm the one who is going to lose track of them :) So, 
should I report those bugs to the tracker.luatex.org or there is no
need?

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Re: [NTG-context] fitting a picture to the available space

2008-09-11 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz

On Sep 11, 2008, at 10:04 AM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:

>
> On Sep 11, 2008, at 9:28 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:
>
>> \starttext
>>
>> \framed[width=5cm,height4cm]{\externalfigure[mill.png]
>> [maxwidth=3cm,maxheight=4cm,width=10cm]}
>>
>> \stoptext
>>
>> seems to work
>
> Ah of course! I could set the width to an absurdly high number and so
> make sure that it will always reach the maxheight/maxwidth, no matter
> what the ratio! This seems to work, thanks a lot!
>

Alas, I spake too soon. Here is an example:

\starttext

\framed[frame=on,strut=no,width=8cm,height=2cm]
  {\externalfigure[mill.png][maxwidth=8cm,maxheight=2cm,width=10cm]}

\stoptext

I would expect the picture to stay within the maxheight, but it doesn't.

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Re: [NTG-context] modes questions

2008-09-11 Thread Alan Stone
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>> Hans Hagen wrote:
 (1.2) Is there a way to call the modelist and submit it to conditional
 testing within ConTeXt ? For example, to lookup (true/false) the
 presence of modes containing/starting with (an) alphannumeric
>
> \doifinstring
>
 string(s) ?
>>> \doifmodeelse{somemode} { } { } etc etc etc
>>
>> This presumes that you actually know the list of enabled modes, so
>> I think a commalist of "set modes" would be useful as well. Modules
>> could use that to set up keyword-based behaviours.
>
> there is already such a mechanism (thomas uses it in his module)

Is this mechanism documented somewhere ?

> maybe at some point in mkiv we can provide the list because then i can
> use lua for keeping track of things; maintaining a comma separated list
> is tex is not that fast (and i use modes a lot to control styles that
> need a high performance); think of
>
> \enablemode[a,b,c]
>
> and a large list of enabled modes that we need to check for already set
> nodes (in lua it's just a hash and a the fill list a list-of-keys)
>
> btw, this would make mkiv incompatible with mkii

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Re: [NTG-context] ntg-context Digest, Vol 51, Issue 36

2008-09-11 Thread Hans Hagen
Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 12:13 PM, Goebel, Juergen
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>>
>>> But as far as I understood, the problem got resolved, right? Didn't
>>> the umlaut-utf work OK?
>> No, not with my oldtimer.
>>
>>> (Jürgen, in case that you are still using the old version of ConTeXt -
>>> *many* aspects have improved since then, including encodings and
>>> regimes, so before starting complaining that something doesn't work,
>>> try upgrading first. And I really mean it.)
>> ACK.
> 
> Can you try it again with my new test files.

to whoever started this tread ... next time don't use "Digest..." as 
subject since it does not reflect the thread's topic

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Re: [NTG-context] modes questions

2008-09-11 Thread Alan Stone
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Taco Hoekwater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hans Hagen wrote:
>>
>>> (1.2) Is there a way to call the modelist and submit it to conditional
>>> testing within ConTeXt ? For example, to lookup (true/false) the
>>> presence of modes containing/starting with (an) alphannumeric
>>> string(s) ?
>>
>> \doifmodeelse{somemode} { } { } etc etc etc
>
> This presumes that you actually know the list of enabled modes, so
> I think a commalist of "set modes" would be useful as well. Modules
> could use that to set up keyword-based behaviours.

That's what I meant. Thanks for clarifying.

> Best wishes,
> Taco

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Re: [NTG-context] ntg-context Digest, Vol 51, Issue 36

2008-09-11 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Goebel, Juergen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>
>> Can you try it again with my new test files.
>
> umlaut-iso-8859-1.tex -->   no sharp s
> umlaut-utf-8.tex  -->   sharp s
> umlaut-windows-1250.tex   -->   no sharp s

Can you try my updated version of the two buggy files, I think I found
the problem
and want to be sure.

Wolfgang


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Re: [NTG-context] ntg-context Digest, Vol 51, Issue 36

2008-09-11 Thread Goebel, Juergen
Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

> Can you try it again with my new test files.

umlaut-iso-8859-1.tex -->   no sharp s
umlaut-utf-8.tex  -->   sharp s
umlaut-windows-1250.tex   -->   no sharp s

BTW: The download is running (or should I say 
crawling) with a gargantuan data rate of
about 25 kbit/s ...

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Re: [NTG-context] modes questions

2008-09-11 Thread Hans Hagen
Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> Hans Hagen wrote:
>>> (1.2) Is there a way to call the modelist and submit it to conditional
>>> testing within ConTeXt ? For example, to lookup (true/false) the
>>> presence of modes containing/starting with (an) alphannumeric

\doifinstring

>>> string(s) ?
>> \doifmodeelse{somemode} { } { } etc etc etc
> 
> This presumes that you actually know the list of enabled modes, so
> I think a commalist of "set modes" would be useful as well. Modules
> could use that to set up keyword-based behaviours.

there is already such a mechanism (thomas uses it in his module)

maybe at some point in mkiv we can provide the list because then i can 
use lua for keeping track of things; maintaining a comma separated list 
is tex is not that fast (and i use modes a lot to control styles that 
need a high performance); think of

\enablemode[a,b,c]

and a large list of enabled modes that we need to check for already set 
nodes (in lua it's just a hash and a the fill list a list-of-keys)

btw, this would make mkiv incompatible with mkii

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Re: [NTG-context] ntg-context Digest, Vol 51, Issue 36

2008-09-11 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 12:13 PM, Goebel, Juergen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>
>> But as far as I understood, the problem got resolved, right? Didn't
>> the umlaut-utf work OK?
>
> No, not with my oldtimer.
>
>> (Jürgen, in case that you are still using the old version of ConTeXt -
>> *many* aspects have improved since then, including encodings and
>> regimes, so before starting complaining that something doesn't work,
>> try upgrading first. And I really mean it.)
>
> ACK.

Can you try it again with my new test files.

Wolfgang


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Re: [NTG-context] first steps with \dosingleempty

2008-09-11 Thread Goebel, Juergen
Patrick Gundlach wrote:

> http://distribution.contextgarden.net/

Hmm, is there a zip-file or something like this, which 
I can download via http or ftp for use with windows?  I 
think of something like context-setup-mswin.zip, only 
not minimal.  I would very much appreciated a link to
this resource.

TIA,

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Re: [NTG-context] modes questions

2008-09-11 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Hans Hagen wrote:
> 
>> (1.2) Is there a way to call the modelist and submit it to conditional
>> testing within ConTeXt ? For example, to lookup (true/false) the
>> presence of modes containing/starting with (an) alphannumeric
>> string(s) ?
> 
> \doifmodeelse{somemode} { } { } etc etc etc

This presumes that you actually know the list of enabled modes, so
I think a commalist of "set modes" would be useful as well. Modules
could use that to set up keyword-based behaviours.

Best wishes,
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Re: [NTG-context] modes questions

2008-09-11 Thread Hans Hagen
Alan Stone wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> (1) --mode=modelist
> 
> (1.1) Is there a limit to the number of modes in modelist ?

no, just what the console and memory permit

> (1.2) Is there a way to call the modelist and submit it to conditional
> testing within ConTeXt ? For example, to lookup (true/false) the
> presence of modes containing/starting with (an) alphannumeric
> string(s) ?

\doifmodeelse{somemode} { } { } etc etc etc

> (2) --modefile=file
> 
> (2.1) What's the syntax of a modefile ?

this concerns examodes stuff that we use for process control at pragma

> (2.2) How does ConTeXt handle a modefile ? Are the modes parsed into a
> modelist ( re: question 1.2 ) ?

best use ctx files instead, like in

== somefile.ctx ===




 
 
 texengine=luatex
 interface=en
 
 
 
 proofing
 somestyle.tex
 
 
 


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Re: [NTG-context] first steps with \dosingleempty

2008-09-11 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Goebel, Juergen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Patrick Gundlach wrote:
>
>> http://distribution.contextgarden.net/
>
> Hmm, is there a zip-file or something like this, which
> I can download via http or ftp for use with windows?  I
> think of something like context-setup-mswin.zip, only
> not minimal.  I would very much appreciated a link to
> this resource.

http://www.pragma-ade.com/download-1.htm

mswincontext.zip

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Re: [NTG-context] use of the \cite command (bib-module)

2008-09-11 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz

On Sep 11, 2008, at 12:19 PM, Martin Hoher wrote:

> Hello,
>
> concerning the bib-module and the \cite command I've got two  
> questions:
>
> (1)   The output in the text of the document should look like this:
>Goldstein (2003:95).
>   The name of the author should be located on the outside of the  
>  
> brackets.
>
>   
>   Goldstein refers to the name of the author, 2003 is the year of 
> publication and 95 is the relevant page number.
>   My approach until now:  \cite[extras={:95}][G:2003] It generates
> the
> following output: (Goldstein 2003:95)
>
\setupcite
[authoryear]
[pubsep={, },
 lastpubsep={ und },
 compress=yes,
 inbetween={ (},
 left={},
 right={)}]

(chapter 2.3 of the bib manual)

>
> (2)   The output in the text should look like this:
>   (vgl. Goldstein 2003:95)
>   My intention is to place the expression "vgl." in front of the  
> authorname and inside of the brackets.

\setupcite
[authoryear]
[pubsep={, },
 lastpubsep={ und },
 compress=yes,
 inbetween={ (vgl. },
 left={},
 right={)}]

HTH

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[NTG-context] use of the \cite command (bib-module)

2008-09-11 Thread Martin Hoher
Hello,

concerning the bib-module and the \cite command I've got two questions:

(1) The output in the text of the document should look like this:
Goldstein (2003:95).
The name of the author should be located on the outside of the  
brackets.


Goldstein refers to the name of the author, 2003 is the year of 
publication and 95 is the relevant page number.
My approach until now:  \cite[extras={:95}][G:2003] It generates
the
following output: (Goldstein 2003:95)


(2) The output in the text should look like this:
(vgl. Goldstein 2003:95)
My intention is to place the expression "vgl." in front of the  
authorname and inside of the brackets.

If someone has an idea to solve this little problem, it will be great to
here from you soon.

Greetings
Martin



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[NTG-context] modes questions

2008-09-11 Thread Alan Stone
Hi,

(1) --mode=modelist

(1.1) Is there a limit to the number of modes in modelist ?

(1.2) Is there a way to call the modelist and submit it to conditional
testing within ConTeXt ? For example, to lookup (true/false) the
presence of modes containing/starting with (an) alphannumeric
string(s) ?

(2) --modefile=file

(2.1) What's the syntax of a modefile ?

(2.2) How does ConTeXt handle a modefile ? Are the modes parsed into a
modelist ( re: question 1.2 ) ?

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Re: [NTG-context] ntg-context Digest, Vol 51, Issue 36

2008-09-11 Thread Goebel, Juergen
Mojca Miklavec wrote:

> But as far as I understood, the problem got resolved, right? Didn't
> the umlaut-utf work OK?

No, not with my oldtimer.

> (Jürgen, in case that you are still using the old version of ConTeXt -
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> regimes, so before starting complaining that something doesn't work,
> try upgrading first. And I really mean it.)

ACK.

Regards,

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Re: [NTG-context] fitting a picture to the available space

2008-09-11 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz

On Sep 11, 2008, at 9:28 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:

> \starttext
>
> \framed[width=5cm,height4cm]{\externalfigure[mill.png] 
> [maxwidth=3cm,maxheight=4cm,width=10cm]}
>
> \stoptext
>
> seems to work

Ah of course! I could set the width to an absurdly high number and so  
make sure that it will always reach the maxheight/maxwidth, no matter  
what the ratio! This seems to work, thanks a lot!

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Re: [NTG-context] ntg-context Digest, Vol 51, Issue 40

2008-09-11 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz

On Sep 11, 2008, at 10:23 AM, Taco Hoekwater wrote:

> Actually I no longer have the source for syst-gen-doc, so the wiki
> page is "leading" now. But anyway, this low-level reference
> documentation stuff is on hold while we try to sort out a new
> infrastructure for texshow.
>
> Best wishes,
> Taco

Hey, I was kidding, right? Think of all the millions of ConTeXt users  
holding their breath because you ended with such a cliffhanger...

All best

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Re: [NTG-context] ntg-context Digest, Vol 51, Issue 36

2008-09-11 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 9:04 AM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 8:56 AM, Goebel, Juergen wrote:
>> Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>>
>>> Which file do you used for test3 and which for test4?
>>
>> I'm sorry, seems to be too early in the morning.
>>
>> test3: umlaut-utf.tex
>> test4: umlaut-latin.tex
>
> Can you try this
>
> \enableregime[windows]
> \starttext
> \SS\space\ssharp\space\number`ß
> \stoptext

[windows] is a bad nomenclature. Either [windows-1252] or [cp1252].

But as far as I understood, the problem got resolved, right? Didn't
the umlaut-utf work OK?

From the original post: \setupencoding is not supposed to be used this way:
\setupencoding[texnansi]
maybe
\setupencoding[default=texnansi]
but that won't have any effect on default font that is loaded.

Mojca

(Jürgen, in case that you are still using the old version of ConTeXt -
*many* aspects have improved since then, including encodings and
regimes, so before starting complaining that something doesn't work,
try upgrading first. And I really mean it.)
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Re: [NTG-context] ntg-context Digest, Vol 51, Issue 40

2008-09-11 Thread Taco Hoekwater


Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
> You should  really read the wiki section I recommended (there is also a
> pdf version at http://tex.aanhet.net/context/syst-gen-doc.pdf, so if you  
> want to read it offline, just download it. Hey Taco, we're still  
> waiting for part 2...) 

Actually I no longer have the source for syst-gen-doc, so the wiki
page is "leading" now. But anyway, this low-level reference
documentation stuff is on hold while we try to sort out a new
infrastructure for texshow.

Best wishes,
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Re: [NTG-context] first steps with \dosingleempty

2008-09-11 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 9:56 AM, Goebel, Juergen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hans Hagen wrote:
>
>> \unexpanded\def\Geb{\dosingleempty\doMyGeb}
>>
>> \def\doMyGeb[#1]#2#3%
>>{, x \iffirstargument Aha \fi
>> \doifsomethingelse{#2}{#2}{...}\space
>> \doifsomethingelse{#3}{#3}{...}%
>> \par}
>
> Thanks a lot, elegant and much shorter.
> But, alas, I can't test it yet since the
> \doifsomethingelse seems to be somewhat
> newer.  My oldtimer (according to Hraban)
> shall really be updated during the next
> days or weeks ...

You could use \doifelsenothing with reverse order for the second
and third argument, \doifsomethingelse was included after the
TL 2008 ConTeXt release.

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Strange behaviour with tikz

2008-09-11 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 7:44 PM, Eric DÉTREZ wrote:
> Hello again
>
> I don't understand a strange thing.
>
> Patterns in tikz become black in some case.
>
> Here is a minimal example :
> ***
> \usemodule[tikz]
> \usetikzlibrary[patterns]
> \starttext
>
> blabla
>
> \chapter {blabla}
>
> \starttikzpicture
> \draw [pattern=north west lines](0,0) rectangle +(1,2);
> \stoptikzpicture
>
> \stoptext
> *
>
> Without any text before the chapter or without the chapter command I
> see the patterns.
> With these commands I just see a black rectangle.
>
> Can I get my patterns back ?

What version of ConTeXt and TikZ are you using?

I first tried your example with TeX Live 2008, and it looked like a
ConTeXt-related problem in TikZ. The patterns only worked on the first
page.

But then I checked with the latest version of both ConTeXt and TikZ
(http://minimals.contextgarden.net/current/modules/t-tikz/ - you can
fetch it with rsync)

rsync -av rsync://contextgarden.net/minimals/current/modules/t-tikz/
place-on-your-computer

And it worked fine.

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] first steps with \dosingleempty

2008-09-11 Thread Patrick Gundlach
Hi,

> Does anyone know when the TL 2008 will be
> distributed to the DANTE-members?

very likely, but you should consider trying out the official context
distribution:

http://distribution.contextgarden.net/


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Re: [NTG-context] A ConTeXt bug tracker to keep track of reported bugs?

2008-09-11 Thread Hans Hagen
Khaled Hosny wrote:
> I've reported several bugs (mostly Arabic related) and I'm afraid it
> might get lost as time goes, I wonder if there is a bug tracker for

they're still in my mailbox ... time ...


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Re: [NTG-context] first steps with \dosingleempty

2008-09-11 Thread Goebel, Juergen
Hans Hagen wrote:

> \unexpanded\def\Geb{\dosingleempty\doMyGeb}
> 
> \def\doMyGeb[#1]#2#3%
>{, x \iffirstargument Aha \fi
> \doifsomethingelse{#2}{#2}{...}\space
> \doifsomethingelse{#3}{#3}{...}%
> \par}

Thanks a lot, elegant and much shorter.
But, alas, I can't test it yet since the
\doifsomethingelse seems to be somewhat
newer.  My oldtimer (according to Hraban)
shall really be updated during the next 
days or weeks ... 

Does anyone know when the TL 2008 will be
distributed to the DANTE-members?

Juergen
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Re: [NTG-context] fitting a picture to the available space

2008-09-11 Thread Hans Hagen
Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
> Hi guys,
> 
> I'm pulling my hair out. I'm trying to set up an automatism to fit  
> pictures to the available space on a slide. I need to consider three  
> parameters:
> 
> 1. If the user supplies a value for width= or height= , use this value  
> (captured in a macro);
> 
> 2. respect the maxwidth and maxheight which must not exceed the frame;
> 
> 3. if the picture is smaller than the available space, blow it up so  
> that it reaches the maxwidth or maxheight (but doesn't exceed either).
> 
> factor=max or =fit does not work because it allows pictures to exceed  
> one of the maximum values. About a year ago Giuseppe Bilotta wrote a  
> message which I append; it describes my problem. Is there a generic  
> solution for this problem? If there is, I'll gladly take it; if there  
> isn't, I thought I had a solution but may need help with expanding and  
> conditionals, then I'll be back with more questions.
> 
> Anyway, good night all, and thanks.

\starttext

\framed[width=5cm,height4cm]{\externalfigure[mill.png][maxwidth=3cm,maxheight=4cm,width=10cm]}

\stoptext

seems to work

> Thomas
> 
>> Subject: Re: [NTG-context] factor=fit images don't fit
>> Sunday, July 22, 2007 Hans Hagen wrote:
>>
>>> the fit assumes operating on a page not in a box;
>> Ah, didn't know that. I couldn't even tell from the sources,
>> since it uses enclosing box dimensions and not page or paper
>> sizes. I suspect the logic is broken at the page level too
>> though, let me explain why.
>>
>> Currently, if I understand the code correctly, factor=fit
>> expands the figure to have its major direction fit, while
>> factor=max expands the figure to have its minor direction
>> fit.
>>
>> Instead, the behavior I would expect from fit (resp. max) is
>> for the *expansion ratio* to be the minimum (resp. maximum)
>> of the expansion ratios in the two directions (not the sizes
>> in those directions, but the ratio between the sizes of the
>> figure and the container). The difference is noticeable when
>> the container and contained have different aspect ratios.
>>
>> Consider for example a 20x30mm figure in a 50x150mm page
>> (strange numbers, just used to show what I mean): with the
>> current code, using 'fit' would consider the largest
>> dimension (30) and thus calculate a factor of 150/30 = 5,
>> but this gives us an image which is 100x150mm, i.e. an image
>> that doesn't fit! Whereas, if we computed the ratios 50/20 =
>> 2.5 and 150/30 = 5, we would know that the ratio to be
>> picked was 2.5 in 'fit' and 5 in 'max'.
>>
>> Or I misintepreting the meaning of 'fit' and 'max'?
>>
>>> an alternative is:
>>> \framed[width=5cm,height4cm]
>>>
>>> {\externalfigure[mill.png][maxwidth=4cm,maxheight=5cm,width=10cm]}
>>> i.e. setting the maximum values
>> I hadn't thought about using width and maxwidth (and
>> maxheight) at the same time, thanks. Of course, I'd rather
>> have 'fit' and 'max' usable in boxes :)
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Re: [NTG-context] A ConTeXt bug tracker to keep track of reported bugs?

2008-09-11 Thread Hans Hagen
Patrick Gundlach wrote:
> Hi,
> 
>> I've reported several bugs (mostly Arabic related) and I'm afraid it
>> might get lost as time goes, I wonder if there is a bug tracker for
>> ConTeXt where we can track reported bugs? I searched the wiki and I
>> didn't find any thing.
> 
> There used to be a public bug tracker at foundry.supelec.fr somewhere.
> But I have removed the links from the wiki page, since it seems to be
> outdated.
> 
> There is an internal bug tracker for the developers which Yue Wang
> mentioned.

there is atracker running at

http://tracker.luatex.org/login_page.php

which has an context subtracker as well

Hans


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Re: [NTG-context] first steps with \dosingleempty

2008-09-11 Thread Hans Hagen
Goebel, Juergen wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Regarding the following example I've got two questions.
> 
> (1) Why don't I ever see the argument #2 in the output?
> (2) What do I have to do to suppress the unwanted space
> after the end of the output of this macro (as can be seen
> in the result before the following comma)?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Juergen
> 
> 
> \def\Geb{\dosingleempty\doMyGeb}
> \def\doMyGeb[#1]#2#3{, x %
>\iffirstargument%
>   Aha
>\else
>  \ifsecondargument%
>#2
>  \else%
>... %C%
>  \fi
>\fi
>\ifthirdargument%
>  #3%
>\else%
>  ...%
>\fi}
> 
> \starttext
> 
> \Geb{Ulm}{11. 9. 2008} % should deliver x Ulm 11. 9. 2008
> \Geb[Ulm]{Ulm}{11. 9. 2008} % should deliver x Aha Ulm 11. 9. 2008
> \Geb{}{11. 9. 2008} % should deliver x ... 11. 9. 2008
> \Geb{Ulm}{} % should deliver x Ulm ...
> \Geb{}{} % should deliver x ...
> 
> \stoptext

\unexpanded\def\Geb{\dosingleempty\doMyGeb}

\def\doMyGeb[#1]#2#3%
   {, x \iffirstargument Aha \fi
\doifsomethingelse{#2}{#2}{...}\space
\doifsomethingelse{#3}{#3}{...}%
\par}


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