Re: [NTG-context] What should I learn?
I also like to write programs (I use a really nice language named Haskell). Do you thing I could get what I want if I write or translate typography functions to that language, and then write programs to generate documents? You will reinvent the wheel (TeX) -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Feature Request: \startitemize[text]
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 7:01 PM, Aditya Mahajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Wolfgang,
On Fri, 17 Oct 2008, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
On Sun, Jan 13, 2008 at 11:41 PM, Aditya Mahajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Hans,
I have always found the space at the beginning of each item in
\startitemize[text] to be too large. Currently, this is hard coded to be
\emwidth plus \intertwordstretch minus \interwordshrink (line 1132 of
core-itm.tex with the comment new per 2006/10/20). I always end of
copying the definition of complexdoitemgroupitem to my private modules and
changing the emwidth in the definition to 0.5\emwidth. Can you please keep
this key to be configurable with a key (textinbetween)?
BTW, any particular reason not to simply say
\removeunwantedspaces\space\ignorespaces instead of
\removeunwantedspaces\hskip\emwidth\!!plus\interwordstretch\!!minus\interwordshrink\relax
\stopitemgroup uses just the first variant.
Thanks,
Aditya
Hi Aditya,
what do you about the following solution, the space between each
item is configurable with the space key, the fourth parameter
\dostartitemgroup gobbles we get from \startitemize if we use two
parameters.
Thank you for looking into this old request. This does exactly what I
want. I just have one comment regarding the default. Maybe, for
consistency, the space key should behave as in \setupinterlinespace
space=none|small|medium|big|dimension
\processaction
[\getitemparameter\currentitemlevel\c!space]
[ \v!none=\let\textitemdistance\zeropoint,
\s!unknown=\assignvalue\commalistelement\textitemdistance{.5\interwordspace\!!plus.5\emwidth}{\interwordspace\!!plus\emwidth}{\emwidth\!!plus\interwordstretch\!!minus\interwordshrink}]%
\removeunwantedspaces\hskip\textitemdistance\relax
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with itemize with arranging pages
Aditya Mahajan wrote: On Tue, 21 Oct 2008, Marcin Borkowski wrote: Hi all, itemize won't work with page arrangement. Is this connected with this: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Imposition#Caveat:_common_troubles ? (In other words: feature, not bug; and resolvable using texexec --arrange?) (I just want to be sure.) Itemize uses two pass data (so that \startitemize[reverse] can work). Therefore itemize not working with page arrangements seems reasonable. (I haven't checked yet). it will work but the last pass (arranging) has to be done without tui generation (try to run texexec with --arrange which will do the extra pass) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Changing margins mid-page?
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 10:28 PM, Alexandros Frantzis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 08:50:20AM +0200, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 7:31 AM, Rory Molinari
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
I'm sorry that the subject isn't clearer.
I'm learning ConTeXt at the moment by trying to typeset a copy of my
resume.
I'd like the format to be something like this (view in fixed width):
Address line 1 phone number
Address line 2 email
address
MY NAME IN LARGE SIZE
---
EDUCATION Details
of Degree 1
Details
of Degree 2
WORK EXPERIENCE Details
of
most
recent
job
many lines here
Details
of
another
job
Yet another job
ANOTHER SECTION More information
appropriate for this
section
My first thought was to have EDUCATION, WORK EXPERIENCE, etc as
unnumbered sections, and to arrange that section titles would appear
in a (very large) left margin. But then I couldn't work out how to
have normal margins for the top of the page containing my contact
information and name. Margins appear to apply to the whole document.
[snip]
What is the right way to typeset this?
Use descriptions, it's possible to set a left margin and break the text
across pages.
Hello,
I, too, am trying to create a similar CV layout. As I have already
reported in other emails to the list, I have been having trouble when
the first thing after the title is an enumeration. More specifically,
the first item of the enumeration is not aligned with the title in the
margin (it is always placed a bit below). Unfortunately, this still
happens when using descriptions.
A way around this is to use something like \setupitemize[before=\vskip -20pt].
But this is specific to the font sizes I am using and a bit ugly. I have tried
suppressing the whitespace around itemizations (nowhite, joinedup) and/or
using
stuff like \blank[disable] and \blank[back] but to no avail.
Does anyone know of a better, more generic way of doing this or even if
it is possible (judging from the lack of answers to my previous posts I
am guessing this is not something trivial)?
Thanks,
Alexandros
--- START CODE
\definedescription[desc][location=inmargin,width=broad]
\starttext
\startdesc{Description1}
This is the text of desc1.
This is the text of desc1.
This is the text of desc1.
This is the text of desc1.
This is the text of desc1.
This is the text of desc1.
This is the text of desc1.
\stopdesc
\startdesc{Description2}
\startitemize[packed,nowhite,joinedup]
\settrue\concatnextitem
\item First item (should be right next to title)
\item Second item
\item Third item
\stopitemize
\stopdesc
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with itemize with arranging pages
Marcin Borkowski wrote: itemize won't work with page arrangement. Is this connected with this: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Imposition#Caveat:_common_troubles ? (In other words: feature, not bug; and resolvable using texexec --arrange?) Quite likely - I must say that I didn't notice, but that's probably because I found the problem on the first page when my Table of Contents didn't turn up; never got as far as to the first itemize... I use WinConteXt with SciTe and at least there *everything* falls in place in my A5 booklet layout when I remember to command Process and Arrange instead of just Process. AFAIK, that command is an equivalent of texexec --arrange; at least it does the trick... (I'm still mainly running ConteXt mkII, but I tested this in WinConteXt mkIV a while back and it worked.) Mari (Motto: Never upgrade software just before deadline unless you really have to.) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] mkiv: Bug in Right to Left numerals?
Hi Hans, Taco, Idriss and the mkiv team,
Since I have been unable to use mkiv until very recently I am not
aware whether the following bug has been addressed or not (Luigi
Scarso taught me how to install and use mkiv on Mac OS, last Sunday…).
Below is a minimal file which shows that the numerals in Right-to-Left
text are reversed, while they shouldn't.
XeTeX and XeConTeXt behave correctly in this respect.
If the bug is known, pardon me for the noise…
Best regards: OK
%% begin file bug-RL-numerals.tex
\starttext
\definefontfeature
[testPersian]
[analyze=yes,
mode=node,
language=dflt,
script=arab,
aalt=yes,
init=yes,
medi=yes,
fina=yes,
isol=yes,
liga=yes,
mset=yes]
\font\FaarsiA=arabtype*testPersian at 36pt
\startbuffer[faarsi]
این متن در سال ۲۰۰۸ مسیحی نوشته شده است.
\stopbuffer
\pardir TLT
\textdir TLT
This file has been typeset on \currentdate{} at \currenttime, mkiv,
ConTeXt version \contextversion,
% LuaTeX version \luatexversion,
LuaTeX revision \luatexrevision,
(LuaTeX date stamp \luatexdatestamp).
\blank[6*big]
The number input as « 2008 » in Persian is written in the output as
« 8002 » in the following Persian text:
\blank[6*big]
\pardir TRT
\textdir TRT
\FaarsiA
\getbuffer[faarsi]
\blank[6*big]
\stoptext
%% end file bug-RL-numerals.tex
bug-RL-numerals.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document
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Re: [NTG-context] mkiv
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 10:41 AM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, at the context meeting it was concluded that there is no reason for mkiv to be fully downward compatible. one thing that i consider removing is the 'background=screen' option from \framed. After all, screens internally already are just grayscales and the old 'method' mechanism is no longer valid given postscript and pdf technologies in practice it means that those who use it (in mkiv) will have to use colors (grayscales) instead (the last time that i used screens myself is sometime last century) Can you now add left|right|top|bottomoffset to \framed. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] mkiv
Wolfgang Schuster wrote: On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 10:41 AM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, at the context meeting it was concluded that there is no reason for mkiv to be fully downward compatible. one thing that i consider removing is the 'background=screen' option from \framed. After all, screens internally already are just grayscales and the old 'method' mechanism is no longer valid given postscript and pdf technologies in practice it means that those who use it (in mkiv) will have to use colors (grayscales) instead (the last time that i used screens myself is sometime last century) Can you now add left|right|top|bottomoffset to \framed. maybe when core-rul gets two versions, mkii and mkiv (and even then i need to check for interferences); the whole structure system comes first (sectioning, lists, references, numbering, blocks etc) - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] What's the difference between \dodoubleargument and \dodoubleempty?
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Re: [NTG-context] What's the difference between \dodoubleargument and \dodoubleempty?
Ruini Xue wrote: It's difficult to understand them from the code. the first one issues a warning when no argument is given - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What's the difference between \dodoub leargument and \dodoubleempty?
Hans Hagen pragma at wxs.nl writes:
Ruini Xue wrote:
It's difficult to understand them from the code.
the first one issues a warning when no argument is given
You mean both of them ask the following \command to take two mandatory
arguments? I try this example:
==
\def\test
{\dodoubleargument\dotest} % use \dodoubleempty
\def\dotest[#1][#2]
{\iffirstargument
First arg: #1
\fi
\ifsecondargument
Second arg: #2
\fi}
\test[ok][ok] % 1. this is ok
\test [ok] [] % 2. warning?
\test [wrong] % 3. Error: lack one arg
==
both 1 and 2 can print First arg and Second arg, so I am confused what's
no argument is given
-- ruini
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Re: [NTG-context] What's the difference between \dodoubleargument and \dodoubleempty?
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 2:03 PM, Ruini Xue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hans Hagen pragma at wxs.nl writes:
Ruini Xue wrote:
It's difficult to understand them from the code.
the first one issues a warning when no argument is given
You mean both of them ask the following \command to take two mandatory
arguments? I try this example:
==
\def\test
{\dodoubleargument\dotest} % use \dodoubleempty
\def\dotest[#1][#2]
You need a comment sign at the end of the line.
\def\dotest[#1][#2]%
{\iffirstargument
First arg: #1
\fi
\ifsecondargument
Second arg: #2
\fi}
\test[ok][ok] % 1. this is ok
\test [ok] [] % 2. warning?
This is just a empty argument.
\test [wrong] % 3. Error: lack one arg
==
both 1 and 2 can print First arg and Second arg, so I am confused what's
no argument is given
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] What's the difference between \dodoub leargument and \dodoubleempty?
Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfgang at googlemail.com writes: You need a comment sign at the end of the line. \def\dotest[#1][#2]% All my faults come from the last comment sign! :) Thanks -- ruini ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What's the difference between \dodoubleargument and \dodoubleempty?
Ruini Xue wrote: Hans Hagen pragma at wxs.nl writes: Ruini Xue wrote: It's difficult to understand them from the code. the first one issues a warning when no argument is given You mean both of them ask the following \command to take two mandatory arguments? I try this example: we use optimized variants for #args =3 but the error messags still shows up for \doquadrupleargument\relax \doquadrupleargument\relax[1] \doquadrupleargument\relax[1][2] \doquadrupleempty\relax \doquadrupleempty\relax[1] \doquadrupleempty\relax[1][2] - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] mkiv: Bug in Right to Left numerals?
This isn't actually a bug, \textdir TRT will reverse all text, try
setting \setupdirection[bidi=global] to enable the experimental
auto-bidi support.
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 11:02 PM, Otared Kavian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Hans, Taco, Idriss and the mkiv team,
Since I have been unable to use mkiv until very recently I am not aware
whether the following bug has been addressed or not (Luigi Scarso taught me
how to install and use mkiv on Mac OS, last Sunday…).
Below is a minimal file which shows that the numerals in Right-to-Left text
are reversed, while they shouldn't.
XeTeX and XeConTeXt behave correctly in this respect.
If the bug is known, pardon me for the noise…
Best regards: OK
%% begin file bug-RL-numerals.tex
\starttext
\definefontfeature
[testPersian]
[analyze=yes,
mode=node,
language=dflt,
script=arab,
aalt=yes,
init=yes,
medi=yes,
fina=yes,
isol=yes,
liga=yes,
mset=yes]
\font\FaarsiA=arabtype*testPersian at 36pt
\startbuffer[faarsi]
این متن در سال ۲۰۰۸ مسیحی نوشته شده است.
\stopbuffer
\pardir TLT
\textdir TLT
This file has been typeset on \currentdate{} at \currenttime, mkiv, ConTeXt
version \contextversion,
% LuaTeX version \luatexversion,
LuaTeX revision \luatexrevision,
(LuaTeX date stamp \luatexdatestamp).
\blank[6*big]
The number input as « 2008 » in Persian is written in the output as « 8002 »
in the following Persian text:
\blank[6*big]
\pardir TRT
\textdir TRT
\FaarsiA
\getbuffer[faarsi]
\blank[6*big]
\stoptext
%% end file bug-RL-numerals.tex
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[NTG-context] Persian interface
Hi everyone, I want to be able to use persian interface in context. So I tried to create two files cont-pe.xml and cont-pe.tex for this purpose. Now my questions are: 1- Am I supposed to just create these two files and then run context --make cont-pe. 2- Can context accept these two files in UTF-8 encoding. Thanks ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What should I learn?
Thanks. But typography books are not the problem. I've seen many, many, many of them, and each one makes me unhappy because I have nowhere to try what they say. My dad is very good at typesetting, but he can draw very well (everything he writes is manuscript, he don't drust a computer to do anything after a few bad experiences). I can't draw, so I need software that gets what I describe and makes it into PDF. The problem is: understanding everything about PDF file format, reading font files, knowing about all available implementations of typesetting algorithms is far beyond my habilities. Original Tex is not an option, since PDF, today's font formats (and Unicode) and many algorithms didn't exist when Knuth decided no features would be added anymore. Maybe I should hack the source code of pdftex or luatex? I can try that, but that's going to be hard work and I would like to know how far I can get before starting, or if there are easier options (like libraries to write PDF and read OpenType and books or example code of typesetting algorithms). Thanks for your tips, Maurício Hi Maurício, (...) Others will have different suggestions but you could start out reading the TeXbook by Knuth http://www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu/~uno/abcde.html and any basic book about typography. Enjoy the trip! Frans Hi, I would like to ask you some advice on what should I learn. (...) Context is where I get the best results, but what I really would like is something that allows me to do things in my own way, not something that's always great for reasons I don't understand. (...) Do you think I could get what I want if I write or translate typography functions to that language, and then write programs to generate documents? Where could I find or where could I learn about such functions? ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Persian interface
Mehdi Omidali wrote: Hi everyone, I want to be able to use persian interface in context. So I tried to create two files cont-pe.xml and cont-pe.tex for this purpose. Now my questions are: 1- Am I supposed to just create these two files and then run context --make cont-pe. 2- Can context accept these two files in UTF-8 encoding. you need to adapt mult-con and mult-com but at the same time we need to adapt mult-sys, so as an experiment if things work out ok, just play a bit with mult-con/com e.g. replace a few harmless commands in the english interface and see if things work ok for persian footnote: voetnoot footnote fussnote poznamkapodcarou notapdp notasubsol notepdp eventually persian can become the 8th entry footnote: voetnoot somethingpersian fussnote poznamkapodcarou notapdp notasubsol notepdp \somethingpersian then should give you a footnote (we never really tested it with utf8 input so far) (when i have time i will (for luatex) make this mechanism different i.e. just lua tables from which i then can generate the con/com files) - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What should I learn?
Mauricio wrote: Original Tex is not an option, since PDF, today's font formats (and Unicode) and many algorithms didn't exist when Knuth decided no features would be added anymore. Maybe I should hack the source code of pdftex or luatex? I can try that, but that's going to be hard work and I would like to know how far I can get before starting, or if there are easier options (like libraries to write PDF and read OpenType and books or example code of typesetting algorithms). you want to writ ea full blown macro package with advanced font support etc etc? well, it will take you a couple of man-years Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] \setuphead and horizontal rules
Hi, Let me prefix this first my saying that I'm new to ConTeXT, so apologies if there is an obvious solution to what I'm trying to do or I'm approaching it in the wrong way. I'm trying to style chapter headings so that they are right justified, with a line before them *on the same line*. In other words, the page should look like this, where vertical bars represent the edges of the text width: |--- 1.1 Some chapter --| Can anyone give me pointers on how to do this? I've trawled the wiki and the internet at large, but an inability to precisely word this leaves it difficult to find any previous example of this. Many thanks, Andrew ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] mkiv: Bug in Right to Left numerals?
On 21 oct. 08, at 15:13, Khaled Hosny wrote:
This isn't actually a bug, \textdir TRT will reverse all text, try
setting \setupdirection[bidi=global] to enable the experimental
auto-bidi support.
Thanks Khaled for your attention, but what I get is:
! Undefined control sequence.
l.21 \setupdirection
[bidi=global]
?
Process aborted
Is this feature so experimental that it is not yet included in the
latest beta?
Best regards: OK
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 11:02 PM, Otared Kavian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Hi Hans, Taco, Idriss and the mkiv team,
Since I have been unable to use mkiv until very recently I am not
aware
whether the following bug has been addressed or not (Luigi Scarso
taught me
how to install and use mkiv on Mac OS, last Sunday…).
Below is a minimal file which shows that the numerals in Right-to-
Left text
are reversed, while they shouldn't.
XeTeX and XeConTeXt behave correctly in this respect.
If the bug is known, pardon me for the noise…
Best regards: OK
%% begin file bug-RL-numerals.tex
\starttext
\definefontfeature
[testPersian]
[analyze=yes,
mode=node,
language=dflt,
script=arab,
aalt=yes,
init=yes,
medi=yes,
fina=yes,
isol=yes,
liga=yes,
mset=yes]
\font\FaarsiA=arabtype*testPersian at 36pt
\startbuffer[faarsi]
این متن در سال ۲۰۰۸ مسیحی نوشته شده
است.
\stopbuffer
\pardir TLT
\textdir TLT
This file has been typeset on \currentdate{} at \currenttime, mkiv,
ConTeXt
version \contextversion,
% LuaTeX version \luatexversion,
LuaTeX revision \luatexrevision,
(LuaTeX date stamp \luatexdatestamp).
\blank[6*big]
The number input as « 2008 » in Persian is written in the output
as « 8002 »
in the following Persian text:
\blank[6*big]
\pardir TRT
\textdir TRT
\FaarsiA
\getbuffer[faarsi]
\blank[6*big]
\stoptext
%% end file bug-RL-numerals.tex
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Re: [NTG-context] Feature Request: \startitemize[text]
Aditya Mahajan wrote: Hans, can this be included in the core? later, i'd rather not touch code now while i'm in the middle some major mkiv core code rework which will take a couple of weeks so, fro the moment, just collect extension code Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] new beta
Hi, I uploaded a new beta. There are changes in the cached font data but this should not affect runs (apart from some fonts being recached). The memory footprint of fonts is slightly smaller, in otf we now handle multiple unicode - one glyph situations. As part of redoing structure related code i rewrote the moveable block code which will be part of the major update later this year. It's not yet 100% functional compatible but faster and more flexible. I'm wondering, are there mkiv users out there who use the block features? Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] new beta
Hi, I uploaded a new beta. There are changes in the cached font data but this should not affect runs (apart from some fonts being recached). The memory footprint of fonts is slightly smaller, in otf we now handle multiple unicode - one glyph situations. As part of redoing structure related code i rewrote the moveable block code which will be part of the major update later this year. It's not yet 100% functional compatible but faster and more flexible. I'm wondering, are there mkiv users out there who use the block features? Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] PhD Thesis in ConTeXt
Hello, I have spent some time with google in order to find an answer to the following questions. Unfortunatly, I was not satisfied with the answers, which I now hope to find here. It is my plan not to use the MS Office suite for the production of my PhD thesis (in chemistry). I have used Miktex some years ago during my studies for some project reports, and I remember beeing quite satisfied with the results. My Master thesis, on the other hand, I wrote in word.. and although I remember not having too many difficulties, there were some nasty obstacles to be overcome. Obstacles which I simply do not want to risk having repeated a second time on a much bigger scale. I this mailing list I read several reports of people who either had written their thesis in Latex or ConTeXt. There was a mention of Latex beeing designed for mathematic purposes, while ConTeXt was said to be better suited for the intergration of graphics or larger/more complex layout changes. 1) Finding the right context For now I had quite some difficulties to find that proper Latex distribution - a problem that actually led me to the existence of ConTeXt. I am wondering which latex distribution I should choose in order to work with ConTeXt? I am running Windows Vista (64-bit). Or is there a ConTeXt stand alone package that will absolutely satisfy my me in my needs? In principle, all I need is 2) The right editor What is the preferred editor for ConTeXt? for such a project? Is there any loss in functionality when using Texniccenter with ConTeXt than with MikTex instead? 3) I have seen some thesis templates/examples in this mailinglist. Can anyone point me to additional sources regarding the creation of a PhD Thesis with ConTeXt? What is the advantage over Latex, what are the disadvantages? Is there a win-win distribution somewhere on the table? 4) Has anyone used a typesetting suite like ContTeXt with CVS? 5) Is the ConTeXt reference system compatible with Endnote? Is there any point to have latex installed, when context can do the trick? Or lets ask the devils advocate the other way around: What is the point of installing context, when latex could do the trick? Apart that I have to re-learn latex anyway.. what is better with Context? Regards, Piotr Jakubowicz ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] PhD Thesis in ConTeXt
Hi, I will let the other, more experienced posters answer the bulk of your questions, as they will do better than I. But about Endnote, which I happen to use, alongside my own own doctoral dissertation writing under ConTeXt, I can share some of my experience. Although Endnote can export into BibTeX format, the result seems not to be directly usable by BibTeX. Not familiar at all with BibTeX and stuff in the beginning, I had look hard to find my answer, and I finally did with the following link, although it's in a different context: http://www.mackichan.com/index.html?techtalk/558.htm~mainFrame So I wrote a small Python program converting the keys that Endnote exports -- and now everything works like a charm. I have no idea what are your options, and what you are willing to do, but the bottom line is, there is a slight obstacle going from Endnote to BibTeX, despite appearances. Jeff On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 13:56, Piotr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I have spent some time with google in order to find an answer to the following questions. Unfortunatly, I was not satisfied with the answers, which I now hope to find here. It is my plan not to use the MS Office suite for the production of my PhD thesis (in chemistry). I have used Miktex some years ago during my studies for some project reports, and I remember beeing quite satisfied with the results. My Master thesis, on the other hand, I wrote in word.. and although I remember not having too many difficulties, there were some nasty obstacles to be overcome. Obstacles which I simply do not want to risk having repeated a second time on a much bigger scale. I this mailing list I read several reports of people who either had written their thesis in Latex or ConTeXt. There was a mention of Latex beeing designed for mathematic purposes, while ConTeXt was said to be better suited for the intergration of graphics or larger/more complex layout changes. 1) Finding the right context For now I had quite some difficulties to find that proper Latex distribution - a problem that actually led me to the existence of ConTeXt. I am wondering which latex distribution I should choose in order to work with ConTeXt? I am running Windows Vista (64-bit). Or is there a ConTeXt stand alone package that will absolutely satisfy my me in my needs? In principle, all I need is 2) The right editor What is the preferred editor for ConTeXt? for such a project? Is there any loss in functionality when using Texniccenter with ConTeXt than with MikTex instead? 3) I have seen some thesis templates/examples in this mailinglist. Can anyone point me to additional sources regarding the creation of a PhD Thesis with ConTeXt? What is the advantage over Latex, what are the disadvantages? Is there a win-win distribution somewhere on the table? 4) Has anyone used a typesetting suite like ContTeXt with CVS? 5) Is the ConTeXt reference system compatible with Endnote? Is there any point to have latex installed, when context can do the trick? Or lets ask the devils advocate the other way around: What is the point of installing context, when latex could do the trick? Apart that I have to re-learn latex anyway.. what is better with Context? Regards, Piotr Jakubowicz ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What should I learn?
Mauricio wrote: Original Tex is not an option, since PDF, today's font formats (and Unicode) and many algorithms didn't exist when Knuth decided no features would be added anymore. Maybe I should hack the source code of pdftex or luatex? I can try that, but that's going to be hard work and I would like to know how far I can get before starting, or if there are easier options (like libraries to write PDF and read OpenType and books or example code of typesetting algorithms). you want to writ ea full blown macro package with advanced font support etc etc? well, it will take you a couple of man-years I'll never use macros, whatever the task is :) I think I want to have enough available libraries so that I could write small programs to generate documents. Most of the time I would probably insert the text in the source code, or create specialized programs that could deal with specific series of documents (I remember reading in an interview with Donald Knuth that this is the way TeX was supposed to be used when it was designed.) If that's not possible today, maybe I could at least write a nice library of general purpose typesetting algorithms that someone could use in the future to do what I want. Although I don't think giants should be on top of dwarfs... Best, Maurício ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] PhD Thesis in ConTeXt
Am 2008-10-21 um 19:56 schrieb Piotr: 1) Finding the right context For now I had quite some difficulties to find that proper Latex distribution - a problem that actually led me to the existence of ConTeXt. I am wondering which latex distribution I should choose in order to work with ConTeXt? I am running Windows Vista (64-bit). Or is there a ConTeXt stand alone package that will absolutely satisfy my me in my needs? In principle, all I need is If you don't need LaTeX or PlainTeX and just ConTeXt, go for the minimals (see wiki). I don't know about Win64 versions, though. (I'm on OSX) 2) The right editor What is the preferred editor for ConTeXt? for such a project? Is there any loss in functionality when using Texniccenter with ConTeXt than with MikTex instead? Some ConTeXters use SciTE, others Emacs. I guess the ConTeXt modes of those are most evolved. I mostly use TextWrangler (Mac only), that has only a rudimentary syntax highlighting, but it's enough for me. see http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Text_Editors Be sure to use an editor with proper Unicode abilities and (I'd suggest to) write in UTF-8 encoding. 3) I have seen some thesis templates/examples in this mailinglist. Can anyone point me to additional sources regarding the creation of a PhD Thesis with ConTeXt? What is the advantage over Latex, what are the disadvantages? Is there a win-win distribution somewhere on the table? What you need depends on the requirements of your university... I'm no academic, so don't know what would be special with a PhD thesis. Did you look through http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Sample_documents ? Did you find http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Chemistry ? 4) Has anyone used a typesetting suite like ContTeXt with CVS? Do you mean your sources or ConTeXt itself? Of course all TeX files are simple text files, so any versioning system is usable. But I'd suggest to use SVN or another less ancient system than CVS. 5) Is the ConTeXt reference system compatible with Endnote? Jeff answered that. Is there any point to have latex installed, when context can do the trick? No. Or lets ask the devils advocate the other way around: What is the point of installing context, when latex could do the trick? Apart that I have to re-learn latex anyway.. what is better with Context? - ConTeXt's scripts know how often your sources need to be run - more freedom in design (but some prefer LaTeX's fixed document classes) - more coherent interface (key=value syntax) - better support for modern features, esp. with LuaTeX - integration of external packages like MetaPost, GNUplot etc., see http://modules.contextgarden.net/ - easy font installation (or no installation at all with XeTeX or LuaTeX) - ... Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What should I learn?
Hi, On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 07:14:50 -0600, Mauricio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Original Tex is not an option, since PDF, today's font formats (and Unicode) and many algorithms didn't exist when Knuth decided no features would be added anymore. Maybe I should hack the source code of pdftex or luatex? I can try that, but that's going to be hard work and I would like to know how far I can get before starting, or if there are easier options (like libraries to write PDF and read OpenType and books or example code of typesetting algorithms). The beginning of the above paragraph is confused, but I have no time to disambiguate :-) What you are looking for sounds like a pipe dream. OTOH, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lout It is apparently a Haskell-like language that seems to roughly correspond to what you are looking for. Best wishes -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Vertically centered title page
Dear all, I am trying to build a presentation with specific requirements. I would like to have the title of the presentation on the middle (both vertical and horizontal) of the first page. I tried, on one hand, two \vfill, and, on the other hand, \framed[location=middle,align=middle] but without success. The title is always on the top of the text area. Any help is welcome ! -- Flavien. Quantum objects are completely crazy but, at least, they are all crazy in the same way. R.P. Feynman. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] PhD Thesis in ConTeXt
2008/10/21 Henning Hraban Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Or lets ask the devils advocate the other way around: What is the point of installing context, when latex could do the trick? Apart that I have to re-learn latex anyway.. what is better with Context? - ConTeXt's scripts know how often your sources need to be run - more freedom in design (but some prefer LaTeX's fixed document classes) - more coherent interface (key=value syntax) - better support for modern features, esp. with LuaTeX - integration of external packages like MetaPost, GNUplot etc., see http://modules.contextgarden.net/ - easy font installation (or no installation at all with XeTeX or LuaTeX) Please don't forget... this wonderful and helpful mailing list :-) Welcome. -- Diego Depaoli ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Vertically centered title page
On Oct 21, 2008, at 10:22 PM, Flavien Lambert wrote:
Dear all, I am trying to build a presentation with specific
requirements. I would like to have the title of the presentation on
the middle (both vertical and horizontal) of the first page. I
tried, on one hand, two \vfill, and, on the other hand,
\framed[location=middle,align=middle] but without success. The title
is always on the top of the text area. Any help is welcome !
--
Flavien.
\starttext
\framed[width=\textwidth,
height=\textheight,
top=\vss,
bottom=\vss,
align=middle]
{Hi! I'm centered!}
\stoptext
HTH
Thomas
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Re: [NTG-context] Vertically centered title page
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008, Flavien Lambert wrote: Dear all, I am trying to build a presentation with specific requirements. I would like to have the title of the presentation on the middle (both vertical and horizontal) of the first page. I tried, on one hand, two \vfill, and, on the other hand, \framed[location=middle,align=middle] but without success. The title is always on the top of the text area. Any help is welcome ! Try either \null\vfill ...content... \vfill\page or \startstandardmakeup ...content... \stopstandardmakeup Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Vertically centered title page
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 14:22:08 -0600, Flavien Lambert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear all, I am trying to build a presentation with specific requirements. I would like to have the title of the presentation on the middle (both vertical and horizontal) of the first page. I tried, on one hand, two \vfill, and, on the other hand, \framed[location=middle,align=middle] but without success. The title is always on the top of the text area. Any help is welcome ! You may play with \starttext \startstandardmakeup \startalignment[middle] test \stopalignment \stopstandardmakeup \stoptext Best wishes -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] PhD Thesis in ConTeXt
Dnia Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 07:56:27PM +0200, Piotr napisa#322;(a):
Hello,
I have spent some time with google in order to find an answer to the
following questions. Unfortunatly, I was not satisfied with the
answers, which I now hope to find here.
It is my plan not to use the MS Office suite for the production of my
PhD thesis (in chemistry). I have used Miktex some years ago during my
studies for some project reports, and I remember beeing quite
satisfied with the results. My Master thesis, on the other hand, I
wrote in word.. and although I remember not having too many
difficulties, there were some nasty obstacles to be overcome.
Obstacles which I simply do not want to risk having repeated a second
time on a much bigger scale.
I this mailing list I read several reports of people who either had
written their thesis in Latex or ConTeXt. There was a mention of Latex
beeing designed for mathematic purposes, while ConTeXt was said to be
better suited for the intergration of graphics or larger/more complex
layout changes.
I'm also rather a ConTeXt newbie (and I daresay that I am more of an
expert as far as plain TeX and LaTeX go), but I'll butt in with my
$3*10^{-2};). I guess I have some right to say something here, too,
since I was first a long-time plain TeX user (about 6 years'
experience), then a LaTeX user (another 6 years or so) and now I've been
trying hard to use ConTeXt for some months.
1) Finding the right context
For now I had quite some difficulties to find that proper Latex
distribution - a problem that actually led me to the existence of
ConTeXt. I am wondering which latex distribution I should choose in
order to work with ConTeXt? I am running Windows Vista (64-bit). Or is
there a ConTeXt stand alone package that will absolutely satisfy my me
in my needs? In principle, all I need is
Well, *the* TeX distribution is texlive (AFAIK, it works under unices,
windows mac). MikTeX is a popular alternative for windows; it should
also contain ConTeXt, although not necessarily the state-of-the-art one.
Nowadays texlive has an automatic package update (much like MikTeX).
And if you want to use the latest-and-greatest ConTeXt, the so-called
minimals are for you. (On a day to day basis, I use ConTeXt MkII
which came with texlive, and it's enough for me; I don't use all these
fancy things like xml, opentype fonts etc. OTOH, I have some newer
version, too, just in case I need it some day.)
2) The right editor
What is the preferred editor for ConTeXt? for such a project? Is there
any loss in functionality when using Texniccenter with ConTeXt than
with MikTex instead?
Well, my heart is breaking when I type this, but my beloved emacs;) has
rather poor ConTeXt support... I use Emacs 22 with AUCTeX 11.84. Well,
although it *works*, it is by no means convenient - at least not that
convenient as an emacs should be;). Hans uses SciTE, which should
therefore be a good answer.
3) I have seen some thesis templates/examples in this mailinglist. Can
anyone point me to additional sources regarding the creation of a PhD
Thesis with ConTeXt? What is the advantage over Latex, what are the
disadvantages? Is there a win-win distribution somewhere on the table?
Well, recently I'm starting to prefer ConTeXt over LaTeX very much. The
are quite a few reasons. (I blogged about some of them some time ago;
you may find this post here:
http://mbork.pl/2008-08-26_Dlaczego_nie_lubię_LaTeXa; notice it's in
Polish, so of no use to most people on this list;). I plan to translate
this into English, but this not very high on my priority list...)
To sum it up (especially for non-Polish people here;) - I assume that my
answer *might* be of interest not only to the author of this thread;)),
the problems are as follows: while LaTeX is very nice when you write a
scientific paper, it's not that nice when you write a test for students
or a letter to Aunt Henrietta;). Another thing is an always possible
package clash, which is highly improbable in a monolithic system like
ConTeXt. And yet another is that many, many things in LaTeX have a
somehow hacky feeling about them, and in ConTeXt they are much more
natural (take the enumerate/enumitem packages, for instance, or text
floating around graphics, or multicolumn typestting...). And last but
not least - in LaTeX, writing content is easy, changing the way things
look is difficult (I know, this is an oversimplification and need not
always be the case, but this is my general feeling); in ConTeXt, both
are easy.
There are some caveats, too. More about them in a moment.
4) Has anyone used a typesetting suite like ContTeXt with CVS?
As it was pointed out, you write just plain text files, so it's not a
problem (and I would consider it highly recommended!). Personally, I
use (another) ancient system (RCS); since I write my documencts mainly
by myself, it suffices for me.
5) Is the ConTeXt reference system compatible with Endnote?
That I have no
Re: [NTG-context] PhD Thesis in ConTeXt
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 7:56 PM, Piotr wrote:
For now I had quite some difficulties to find that proper Latex
distribution
You only have MikTeX and TeX Live. (I used to be a big MikTeX fan. Not
much difference, but MikTeX is more user friendly for my biased
taste; sadly lacking ConTeXt at the moment.)
- a problem that actually led me to the existence of
ConTeXt. I am wondering which latex distribution I should choose in
order to work with ConTeXt?
I like the wording a lot (which *LaTeX* distribution to choose) :) :) :)
There are three options:
a) TeX Live
b) MikTeX, but you need quite some manual tweaking and non-trivial
settings to make ConTeXt run
c) ConTeXt minimals (you can have them installed in addition to the
other distribution), no LaTeX, but (almost) no GUI, frequent updates
Is there any point to have latex installed, when context can do the
trick?
If you plan to use ConTeXt exclusively, you don't need to have LaTeX
installed unless you compile other people's documents.
Or lets ask the devils advocate the other way around:
What is the point of installing context, when latex could do the trick?
If LaTeX can do what you need, none ;)
And I seriously mean it.
Apart
that I have to re-learn latex anyway.. what is better with Context?
(others have answered rather well)
There was a mention of Latex
beeing designed for mathematic purposes, while ConTeXt was said to be
better suited for the intergration of graphics or larger/more complex
layout changes.
Speaking with a bit of irony highly biased:
In LaTeX you accept the fact that you cannot do any complex layout
modifications.
Consequently you don't even try to adapt anything, so you can devote
more time to contents and don't need to fight with bugs (unless you
start including 5 packages :)
In ConTeXt it's easy to be more creative with layouts, easy to reach
the limits of what's possible, but also possible to ask for adding
some missing functionality and some bugs\footnote{also possible to ask
to remove them of course} :) :) :)
If you need some creative distraction while writing your thesis, you
have just arrived to the perfect place :)
Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] What should I learn?
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008, Maurício wrote: I also like to write programs (I use a really nice language named Haskell). Do you thing I could get what I want if I write or translate typography functions to that language, and then write programs to generate documents? Where could I find or where could I learn about such functions? You can also have a look at ant http://ant.berlios.de/. It is not as big as TeX and is written in Ocaml, so you may find it easier to understand than the source code of TeX (a mixture of pascal, change files, and C). Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] PhD Thesis in ConTeXt
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008, Piotr wrote: Hello, I have spent some time with google in order to find an answer to the following questions. Unfortunatly, I was not satisfied with the answers, which I now hope to find here. It is my plan not to use the MS Office suite for the production of my PhD thesis (in chemistry). I have used Miktex some years ago during my studies for some project reports, and I remember beeing quite satisfied with the results. My Master thesis, on the other hand, I wrote in word.. and although I remember not having too many difficulties, there were some nasty obstacles to be overcome. Obstacles which I simply do not want to risk having repeated a second time on a much bigger scale. I this mailing list I read several reports of people who either had written their thesis in Latex or ConTeXt. There was a mention of Latex beeing designed for mathematic purposes, while ConTeXt was said to be better suited for the intergration of graphics or larger/more complex layout changes. 1) Finding the right context For now I had quite some difficulties to find that proper Latex distribution - a problem that actually led me to the existence of ConTeXt. I am wondering which latex distribution I should choose in order to work with ConTeXt? I am running Windows Vista (64-bit). Or is there a ConTeXt stand alone package that will absolutely satisfy my me in my needs? In principle, all I need is 2) The right editor What is the preferred editor for ConTeXt? for such a project? Is there any loss in functionality when using Texniccenter with ConTeXt than with MikTex instead? Depends on what functions you need. There are a few editors which have basic support for ConTeXt (compile document, view pdf, jump to error, etc.). Hans uses Scite and includes a context enabled scite in the windows distribution available on prama-ade.com. Irdis has written support for Notepad++. Vim and emacs have some basic support. I do not know what features texniccenter and winedit provide for context. 3) I have seen some thesis templates/examples in this mailinglist. Can anyone point me to additional sources regarding the creation of a PhD Thesis with ConTeXt? Each institute has different requirements for phd thesis, so one template is not going to fit the bill. I did my thesis in context, and you can have a look at the sources and the output: http://www.eecs.umich.edu/~adityam/publications/thesis/thesis.pdf http://www.eecs.umich.edu/~adityam/publications/thesis/thesis.tar.gz The easier way to go about this will be to look at the formatting specifications of the thesis, and try to understand how to implement them in context one by one. What is the advantage over Latex, what are the disadvantages? Is there a win-win distribution somewhere on the table? Advantage: In most cases, others have written a style for what you want, so you don't have to create a style on your own. Disadvantage: When you do have to create a style on your own, it can be difficult, even in packages which are supposed to be easy to configure 4) Has anyone used a typesetting suite like ContTeXt with CVS? As others have said, the source files are simply text files. So you can use any version control that you want. 5) Is the ConTeXt reference system compatible with Endnote? I have no experience with endnote. I have seen endnote to bibtex converters. If you can convert to bibtex, then using the references with context is relatively easy. Is there any point to have latex installed, when context can do the trick? As Mojca said, you may want to submit something to a journal which accepts latex files. Or lets ask the devils advocate the other way around: What is the point of installing context, when latex could do the trick? Again I agree with what Mojca said. If latex can do the job, use it. If you are happy with one of the defaul latex styles, do not use too many figures in your document, do not want text wrapping around figures, use latex. Apart that I have to re-learn latex anyway.. what is better with Context? Context has a more consistent interface to all the commands. This makes it easier to remember how to configure things. Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] emacs (was: Re: PhD Thesis in ConTeXt)
On Wed, Oct 22 2008, Marcin Borkowski wrote: Well, my heart is breaking when I type this, but my beloved emacs;) has rather poor ConTeXt support... I use Emacs 22 with AUCTeX 11.84. Well, although it *works*, it is by no means convenient - at least not that convenient as an emacs should be;). Hello Marcin, What are the problems with emacs? Cheers, Peter -- http://pmrb.free.fr/contact/ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] PhD Thesis in ConTeXt
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