Re: [NTG-context] 3D PDF support (AKA asymptote support)

2009-06-05 Thread Michail Vidiassov

Dear Luigi,

On Fri, 5 Jun 2009, luigi scarso wrote:


Asymptote may be a better choice since it supports newer PRC 3D 
format



Ouch, another new 3D format! This will never end. I bet no valuable Open Source 
modeler (i.e. blender) support this one. The fact that asy
supports PRC is good but I have no illusion about the conclusion of the 3d 
formats' war (just an endless pain for developpers)...

Asymptote has a prc dir
 asymptote-1.75/prc
maybe can be a lib too..


To say the truth Adobe Acrobat SDK has PRC API in it, but it is 
Windows-only, goes for big-$$$ and for that is "Not licensed to run in a 
batch or server mode".


As to the role of Adobe in 3D formats war - it reminds me of a quote 
attributed to a North Vietnamese general: "You Americans have fast 
choppers and jeeps, so you can rapidly move troops to the point of 
engagemment. But we are _already_ there!". The installed base of Adobe 
Readers may be a new factor in that endless Tweedle D.* free-for-all ;)


Sincerely, Michail



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Re: [NTG-context] Font sizes in item group

2009-06-05 Thread Wolfgang Schuster


Am 05.06.2009 um 23:04 schrieb Michael Bynum:


I am trying to find out it there is a way to set the font size for
each level of an item group so that as you go down the item group, the
font decreases a small amount.  I assume there must be a way, but I
haven't found anything looking around the manuals.  Here is my current
item group.

\defineitemgroup[bullet][levels=3]
\setupitemgroup[bullet][1][1]
\setupitemgroup[bullet][2][2]
\setupitemgroup[bullet][3][3]


\setupitemgroup[bullet][...][...][inner={\switchtobodyfont[xxpt]}]

Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] \from query

2009-06-05 Thread Bowen Alan C.

Thanks, Hans! That’s exactly what I needed.

Alan

On Jun 5, 2009, at 17;29,03 , Hans Hagen wrote:


Bowen Alan C. wrote:
Is there a way to configure \from[MyExternalDocument] or  
\useexternaldocument so that when the link to MyExternalDocument is  
selected in the PDF output file, Acrobat opens a new window?


\setupinteraction[display=new]


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Re: [NTG-context] 3D PDF support (AKA asymptote support)

2009-06-05 Thread Hans Hagen

Michail Vidiassov wrote:

Dear Hans, Mojca and All,

a draft for an analog of LaTeX movie15 package for including Adobe Reader
compatible 3d models into PDF files is at


i'll have a look at it next week; the interface needs some more thinking 
from my side; in principle we should not use externalfigure here but the 
rendering mechanism


i'll see if i can provide some more helpers in the backend module (i 
have to find back some pdf constructor functions)


it's anyway a good starting point; thanks

Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] \from query

2009-06-05 Thread Hans Hagen

Bowen Alan C. wrote:
Is there a way to configure \from[MyExternalDocument] or 
\useexternaldocument so that when the link to MyExternalDocument is 
selected in the PDF output file, Acrobat opens a new window?


\setupinteraction[display=new]


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[NTG-context] Font sizes in item group

2009-06-05 Thread Michael Bynum
I am trying to find out it there is a way to set the font size for
each level of an item group so that as you go down the item group, the
font decreases a small amount.  I assume there must be a way, but I
haven't found anything looking around the manuals.  Here is my current
item group.

\defineitemgroup[bullet][levels=3]
\setupitemgroup[bullet][1][1]
\setupitemgroup[bullet][2][2]
\setupitemgroup[bullet][3][3]


Thanks,
Mike
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[NTG-context] \from query

2009-06-05 Thread Bowen Alan C.
Is there a way to configure \from[MyExternalDocument] or  
\useexternaldocument so that when the link to MyExternalDocument is  
selected in the PDF output file, Acrobat opens a new window?


Alan


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[NTG-context] unicode no-break spaces

2009-06-05 Thread Peter Münster
Hello,

This used to work with MKIV, but with today's version, it does not:

\starttext
X X THIN SPACE (U+2009)\blank
X X NARROW NO-BREAK SPACE (U+202F)\blank
X X NO-BREAK SPACE (U+00A0)\blank
\stoptext

Should this work, or should we rather use "~" and "\," as in the past?

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Re: [NTG-context] 3D PDF support (AKA asymptote support)

2009-06-05 Thread luigi scarso
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 9:28 PM, Renaud Aubin  wrote:

> Michail Vidiassov a écrit :
>
>> While MeshLab may be of great use if you have to convert old data or
>> process output from some existing tool, in cases when you make your model
>> from scratch by hand or create 3D model file in your own program Asymptote
>> may be a better choice since it supports newer PRC 3D format, that is much
>> richer in features and has better prospects when it comes to support and
>> development by Adobe. On the minus side Asymptote is under active
>> development and some of its advantages are not there yet - but so is
>> ConTeXt.
>>
> Ouch, another new 3D format! This will never end. I bet no valuable Open
> Source modeler (i.e. blender) support this one. The fact that asy supports
> PRC is good but I have no illusion about the conclusion of the 3d formats'
> war (just an endless pain for developpers)...
>
Asymptote has a prc dir
 asymptote-1.75/prc
maybe can be a lib too..
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Re: [NTG-context] 3D PDF support (AKA asymptote support)

2009-06-05 Thread Michail Vidiassov

Dear Renaud,

On Fri, 5 Jun 2009, Renaud Aubin wrote:

Asymptote may be a better choice since it supports newer PRC 3D 
format, that is much richer in features and has better prospects when 
it comes to support and development by Adobe.
Ouch, another new 3D format! This will never end. I bet no valuable Open 
Source modeler (i.e. blender) support this one. The fact that asy 
supports PRC is good but I have no illusion about the conclusion of the 
3d formats' war (just an endless pain for developpers)...


IMHO the major difference is that Adobe Reader is a 3D viewer with quite a 
userbase and lots of support resources behind. While the failure of 3D 
community to accept U3D as 3D JPEG is deplorable, PRC prospects in Adobe 
seem bright - they have bought the format together with the authors, make 
noises about submitting it to ISO, released documentation...


From my experience of work with U3D, writing an exporter turned out to be 
not that difficult, since for U3D there is VRML-like intermediate text 
format, but figuring out what are the limitations of Adobe viewer takes a 
lot of time.


I do not remember if that applies to Blender, but googling showed me that
in 2006-2007 people asked questions in lists/forums of 3D software 
pieces about 3D PDF output, but neither users were interested, nor 
developers excited.


   Sincrely, Michail

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Re: [NTG-context] 3D PDF support (AKA asymptote support)

2009-06-05 Thread Renaud Aubin

Michail Vidiassov a écrit :
While MeshLab may be of great use if you have to convert old data or 
process output from some existing tool, in cases when you make your 
model from scratch by hand or create 3D model file in your own program 
Asymptote may be a better choice since it supports newer PRC 3D 
format, that is much richer in features and has better prospects when 
it comes to support and development by Adobe. On the minus side 
Asymptote is under active development and some of its advantages are 
not there yet - but so is ConTeXt.
Ouch, another new 3D format! This will never end. I bet no valuable Open 
Source modeler (i.e. blender) support this one. The fact that asy 
supports PRC is good but I have no illusion about the conclusion of the 
3d formats' war (just an endless pain for developpers)...


Renaud
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Re: [NTG-context] 3D PDF support (AKA asymptote support)

2009-06-05 Thread luigi scarso
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 8:02 PM, Michail Vidiassov wrote:

> Dear Luigi,
>
> On Fri, 5 Jun 2009, luigi scarso wrote:
>
>   a draft for an analog of LaTeX movie15 package for including Adobe
>> Reader
>>  compatible 3d models into PDF files is at
>>
>> hi michael
>> some time ago Renaud Aubin discover
>> http://meshlab.sourceforge.net/
>> 2008-11-22 19:132008-11-22 18:13 +100UTC
>> Re: [NTG-context] embedding 3d pdf
>>
>
> Sorry, I fail to understand your comment.
>
ah, it's not a comment at all.
Just to keep 3d things under the same subject

>
> On one hand, MeshLab can convert from other 3D formats to U3D (older Adobe
> format) and embed U3D into PDF files via LaTeX with movie15 package, thus
> it may be useful in 3D PDF workflow in general, on the other hand it does
> not have anything to do with ConTeXt.
>


>
>
> While MeshLab may be of great use if you have to convert old data or
> process output from some existing tool, in cases when you make your model
> from scratch by hand or create 3D model file in your own program Asymptote
> may be a better choice since it supports newer PRC 3D format, that is much
> richer in features and has better prospects when it comes to support and
> development by Adobe. On the minus side Asymptote is under active
> development and some of its advantages are not there yet - but so is
> ConTeXt.
>
yes just now with blender
http://www.blender.org/features-gallery/features/
and meshlib
one can (in theory) embed 3d models
using
\executesystemcommand
and your macros.
BTW
I'm not aware of any opensource tools (apart asymptote)
that are PRC 3D-able: do you ?


>
>
>Sincerely,, Michail
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Re: [NTG-context] 3D PDF support (AKA asymptote support)

2009-06-05 Thread Michail Vidiassov

Dear Luigi,

On Fri, 5 Jun 2009, luigi scarso wrote:


  a draft for an analog of LaTeX movie15 package for including Adobe Reader
  compatible 3d models into PDF files is at

hi michael
some time ago Renaud Aubin discover
http://meshlab.sourceforge.net/
2008-11-22 19:132008-11-22 18:13 +100UTC
Re: [NTG-context] embedding 3d pdf


Sorry, I fail to understand your comment.

On one hand, MeshLab can convert from other 3D formats to U3D (older Adobe 
format) and embed U3D into PDF files via LaTeX with movie15 package, thus
it may be useful in 3D PDF workflow in general, on the other hand it does 
not have anything to do with ConTeXt.


As to the module Renaud Aubin wrote to support 3D annotations - it is 
mkii thing, for example it uses "definefileinsertion" that did not find 
its way into mkiv IMHO.


While MeshLab may be of great use if you have to convert old data or 
process output from some existing tool, in cases when you make your model 
from scratch by hand or create 3D model file in your own program Asymptote 
may be a better choice since it supports newer PRC 3D format, that is much 
richer in features and has better prospects when it comes to support and 
development by Adobe. On the minus side Asymptote is under active 
development and some of its advantages are not there yet - but so is ConTeXt.



Sincerely,, Michail
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Re: [NTG-context] Bug in mkiv math mode: missing \longrightarrow

2009-06-05 Thread Otared Kavian


On 5 juin 09, at 14:38, Aditya Mahajan wrote:


On Fri, 5 Jun 2009, Otared Kavian wrote:

[…]
In mkiv nothing appears for \longrightarrow, although the  
typesetting goes through.


Currently, \longrightarrow (and few other composed symbols) only  
work with unicode fonts (cambria and asana math). We need to figure  
out a clean way to deal with composed symbols in mkiv.


Aditya


Thanks Aditya, I understand.
Should I gather such bugs in a file and submit it later, without  
cluttering the mailing list with each of them?


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Re: [NTG-context] 3D PDF support (AKA asymptote support)

2009-06-05 Thread luigi scarso
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Michail Vidiassov wrote:

> Dear Hans, Mojca and All,
>
> a draft for an analog of LaTeX movie15 package for including Adobe Reader
> compatible 3d models into PDF files is at
>
> http://www.iaas.msu.ru/tmp/movie15context.tgz .
>
> Almost no docs/comments inside, but questions are of course welcome.
>
> You'd better take a brief look at part 5.2 of movie15 docs
>
>
> http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/movie15/doc/movie15.pdf
>
> and part 13.6 of ISO/Adobe PDF spec
>
> http://www.adobe.com/devnet/acrobat/pdfs/PDF32000_2008.pdf
>
> to understand what are the settings.
>
> Since I lack understanding of ConTeXt/luatex combo and have to pass data
> for dictionaries containing other dictionaries to 3D model embedder I had
> to abuse two existing parameters, "control" and "display" and rely on sane
> lua code being put there.
> And even the limited parameter correctness checks do not report problems,
> they just silently fail to execute.
>
> One more option to deal with 3D models is not to embed them as annotations
> in the main PDF file, but to make a PDF with only 3D model in it and
> attach it to the main PDF, linking to a clickable 2D image (like
> attachfile2 LaTeX package). Donno if that functionality is in working
> condition now and how to use it.
>
>  Sincerely, Michail
>
hi michael
some time ago Renaud Aubin discover
http://meshlab.sourceforge.net/

cfr
Renaud Aubin
2008-11-22 19:132008-11-22 18:13 +100UTC
Re: [NTG-context] embedding 3d pdf


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[NTG-context] 3D PDF support (AKA asymptote support)

2009-06-05 Thread Michail Vidiassov
Dear Hans, Mojca and All,

a draft for an analog of LaTeX movie15 package for including Adobe Reader
compatible 3d models into PDF files is at

http://www.iaas.msu.ru/tmp/movie15context.tgz .

Almost no docs/comments inside, but questions are of course welcome.

You'd better take a brief look at part 5.2 of movie15 docs

http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/movie15/doc/movie15.pdf

and part 13.6 of ISO/Adobe PDF spec

http://www.adobe.com/devnet/acrobat/pdfs/PDF32000_2008.pdf

to understand what are the settings.

Since I lack understanding of ConTeXt/luatex combo and have to pass data
for dictionaries containing other dictionaries to 3D model embedder I had
to abuse two existing parameters, "control" and "display" and rely on sane
lua code being put there.
And even the limited parameter correctness checks do not report problems,
they just silently fail to execute.

One more option to deal with 3D models is not to embed them as annotations
in the main PDF file, but to make a PDF with only 3D model in it and
attach it to the main PDF, linking to a clickable 2D image (like
attachfile2 LaTeX package). Donno if that functionality is in working
condition now and how to use it.

  Sincerely, Michail


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Re: [NTG-context] LilyPond module 2009-06-05

2009-06-05 Thread Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky

Thanks, Hraban

But my problem (under Windows) persists: no eps or pdfs are created. 
Only "lily1-lilypond-1.tmp" and "lily1-lilypond-1.tmp.md5" in "lilytemp" 
folder.

Installing GhostScript didn't help.

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Re: [NTG-context] simple-slides: Last slide not formatted

2009-06-05 Thread Michael Bynum
ConTeXt  ver: 2008.05.21 15:21 MKII  fmt: 2009.4.16  int: english/english
texexec --version:  TeXExec | version 6.2.0 - 1997-2006 - PRAGMA ADE/POD

See my previous message for the attached pdf file.

Mike



On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 10:58 PM, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Jun 2009, Michael Bynum wrote:
>
>> I am having a problem with the last slide of my presentation using the
>> simple-slide module.  No matter what style I use, the last slide
>> doesn't follow the style chosen and doesn't contain the specified
>> title.  In the example below, the title slide and slides 1 - 3 are
>> correctly formatted, but slide 4 only displays the text "This is the
>> forth slide" in black text on a white background.  Is there something
>> I'm doing wrong?
>>
>> \usemodule[simpleslides][style=BigNumber]
>> \setupTitle
>>        [ title={Title of Presentation},
>>         author={Author of Presentation},
>>          date={Today},
>>        ]
>>
>> \starttext
>> \placeTitle
>>
>> \SlideTitle {The first slide}
>> This is the first slide.
>>
>> \SlideTitle {The second slide}
>> This is the second slide.
>>
>> \SlideTitle {The third slide}
>> This is the third slide.
>>
>> \SlideTitle {The forth slide}
>> This is the forth slide.
>>
>> \stoptext
>
> This works fine here for both mkii and mkiv. I am using the beta from
> 2009.05.26. What is the version that you are using?
>
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Re: [NTG-context] accented characters (UTF) in filename

2009-06-05 Thread Taco Hoekwater


Peter Münster wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> It seems, that one cannot use accented characters in file-names. Example:
> 
> "context état.tex" fails with:
> 
> This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.40.1-2009051420 (Web2C 7.5.7)
>  \write18 enabled.
> ! I can't find file `./?at.tex'.
> <*> ./état.tex
>
> Please type another input file name:
> 
> Is it possible to resolve this problem?

It is a bug in luatex, to be fixed in 0.40.3 (on monday).

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Re: [NTG-context] Bug in mkiv math mode: missing \longrightarrow

2009-06-05 Thread Aditya Mahajan

On Fri, 5 Jun 2009, Otared Kavian wrote:


Hi Hans,

Testing your last night's beta,
LuaTeX, Version beta-0.40.1-2009050813 (Web2C 7.5.7)
	ConTeXt  ver: 2009.06.04 22:20 MKIV  fmt: 2009.6.4  int: 
english/english
I noticed that \longrightarrow is missing in mkiv, while everything is 
correct in mkii.

Here is a minimal example:

%%% begin example
\starttext
Consider a continuous function $f : (0,1) \longrightarrow E$, where $E$ is a 
Banach space, as above.


Consider a continuous function $f : (0,1) \rightarrow E$, where $E$ is a 
Banach space, as above.

\stoptext

%%% end example

In mkiv nothing appears for \longrightarrow, although the typesetting goes 
through.


Currently, \longrightarrow (and few other composed symbols) only work with 
unicode fonts (cambria and asana math). We need to figure out a clean way 
to deal with composed symbols in mkiv.


Aditya
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[NTG-context] accented characters (UTF) in filename

2009-06-05 Thread Peter Münster
Hello,

It seems, that one cannot use accented characters in file-names. Example:

"context état.tex" fails with:

This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.40.1-2009051420 (Web2C 7.5.7)
 \write18 enabled.
! I can't find file `./?at.tex'.
<*> ./état.tex
   
Please type another input file name:

Is it possible to resolve this problem?

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Re: [NTG-context] Bug in treatment of spaces in mathmode mkiv

2009-06-05 Thread Hans Hagen

Aditya Mahajan wrote:

colon needs a bit more care. The literal : should be a mathrel, while 
\colon should be a punctuation. I do not know how to set this using 
mathspec.


hm, we had two mathname=colon's, so i removed the 0x003A


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[NTG-context] LilyPond module 2009-06-05

2009-06-05 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm

Just released the latest version with some fixes:
- pstopdf is only called if there's no pdf created (seems like  
LilyPond creates PDFs by itself even in EPS mode now)
- before trying to move a file, the target gets deleted if it already  
exists

- some more code cleanup

Is someone in need of a MkII version? (I could make that, but only  
without the file system features.)


BTW Mojca is planning for a general tempdir feature for all modules;  
probably the setup syntax will change a bit if it's ready.



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[NTG-context] Bug in mkiv math mode: missing \longrightarrow

2009-06-05 Thread Otared Kavian

Hi Hans,

Testing your last night's beta,
LuaTeX, Version beta-0.40.1-2009050813 (Web2C 7.5.7)
	ConTeXt  ver: 2009.06.04 22:20 MKIV  fmt: 2009.6.4  int: english/ 
english
I noticed that \longrightarrow is missing in mkiv, while everything is  
correct in mkii.

Here is a minimal example:

%%% begin example
\starttext
Consider a continuous function $f : (0,1) \longrightarrow E$, where $E 
$ is a Banach space, as above.


Consider a continuous function $f : (0,1) \rightarrow E$, where $E$ is  
a Banach space, as above.

\stoptext

%%% end example

In mkiv nothing appears for \longrightarrow, although the typesetting  
goes through.


Thanks for your attention: OK
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[NTG-context] Substititute ?

2009-06-05 Thread Nicolas Girard
Hi,

shouldn't "substititute" be substi..., err..., replaced with
"substitute", in rlxtools.rb, lines 115, 148 and 207 ?

Cheers,
Nicolas
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