Re: [NTG-context] beta

2010-09-11 Thread Zhichu Chen
Fine, I see what's the problem: I can't find my fonts.

I run
mtxrun --script fonts --reload
and
luatools AdobeSongStd-Light.otf
get
d:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-fonts/fonts/opentype/public/Adobe/AdobeSongStd-Light.otf
But when I run
mtxrun --script fonts --list --file Adobe
I get nothing ironically.

Did I miss something? I've put the texmfcnf.lua under texmf/web2c.

On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Zhichu Chen  wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 11:59 PM, Hans Hagen  wrote:
>
>> On 10-9-2010 10:43, Zhichu Chen wrote:
>>
>>> My apology. I attach the test file here and hope that's gonna help.
>>> I extract everything from the font package to
>>> $texmf-fonts/fonts/data/bh/lucida
>>> and that's it.
>>>
>>
>> works ok here
>>
>> did you run mtxrun --generate etc?
>
> Yes, I did. But weird thing happened when I run the command manually again.
> I
> got the following message:
> ===
> systems : begin file untitled-2.tex at line 3
>
> {d:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-fonts/fonts/map/dvips/bh/lucida/lucida.map}
>
> fontnames > font database does not match configuration and file hashes
>
> fontnames > warnings are disabled (tracker 'fonts.warnings')
>
> fontnames > identifying tree font files with suffix otf
> ===
>
>
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Re: [NTG-context] pdf file not found (final question)

2010-09-11 Thread Peter Münster
On Fri, Sep 10 2010, Peter Münster wrote:

> Can anybody reproduce the following problem (Taco can't ...):
> 
> \startbuffer[pdf-pages]
>   \starttext
> page 1 \page page 2
>   \stoptext
> \stopbuffer
> \savebuffer[pdf-pages][pdf-pages.tex]
> \executesystemcommand{context pdf-pages; mkdir testdir;
>   mv pdf-pages.pdf testdir/2*8.pdf}
> \starttext
> \setupexternalfigures[directory={./testdir}]
> \externalfigure[2*8][page=2]
> \stoptext
> 
> -> !LuaTeX error: PDF inclusion: required page <2> does not exist
> 
> No problem with page=1.
> 
> No problem with other name for pdf-file (for example "pdftest.pdf"
> instead of "2*8.pdf").
> 
> No problem, if pdf-file is in current directory instead of "testdir".

Hello,

After some further investigation, I've found that the reason for this problem
is a pdf file in my installation:
/opt/context/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/peter/samples/unten-21478.pdf

So please try "o*w" instead of "2*8", and you'll be able to reproduce the
problem!

But there is still a difference:
texmf-local:
  when using "\externalfigure[2*8][page=1]" on my installation, I get really
  the first page of 2*8.pdf and not the "unten-21478.pdf".

texmf-context:
  when using "\externalfigure[o*w][page=1]" you'll get the cow.

So the question is:
- bug?
- or don't ever use "*" in a filename?

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[NTG-context] numbers missing in subsubsubsubsubsubsection

2010-09-11 Thread Steffen Wolfrum

Hi all,

how do I get my numbers in level nine (and higher) back?
See example below please.

Did someone change module[subsub] ??


Thanks in advance,
Steffen

[2010.09.05 13:23 MKIV]

=

\usemodule[subsub]

\starttext

\definehead [LevelSeven] [subsubsubsubsection]

\definehead [LevelNine] [subsubsubsubsubsubsection]


\setuphead
  [LevelSeven]
  [sectionsegments=7:7]

\setuphead
  [LevelNine]
  [sectionsegments=9:9]
   
   
\LevelSeven{Seven}

\LevelNine{Nine}

\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] [OT] Mensis

2010-09-11 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 08:23:32PM +0200, luigi scarso wrote:
> http://mensis.sourceforge.net/

It is clearly off-topic, but off-topic in what topic. It is not a new
tool (it have been around longer than I have been using computers
myself), so what is special about it :)

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Re: [NTG-context] [OT] Mensis

2010-09-11 Thread Martin Schröder
2010/9/11 luigi scarso :
> http://mensis.sourceforge.net/

Interesting. And a perfect example how NOT to structure the home page
of an open source program: What's it all about? Well, we have this
link here which will tell you everything if you click it, but we don't
want to put a para on the main page ... :-(

Best
   Martin
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[NTG-context] [OT] Mensis

2010-09-11 Thread luigi scarso
http://mensis.sourceforge.net/

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Re: [NTG-context] weather forecast

2010-09-11 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 11.09.2010 um 19:18 schrieb Alan BRASLAU:

> On Saturday 11 September 2010 18:22:39 Jano Kula wrote:
>> Weather forecast is improving. Indian summer is here! Rain only on
>> Wednesday.
>> 
>> week temperatures:
>> day: 18-22 Celsius (in shadow, of course)
>> night: 7-12 Celsius
>> 
>> Jano
> 
> 18-22°C

18–22\,°C

> - or -
> 18-22$^{\circ}$C
> - or -
> 18-22\degree\Celsius

18–22 \Degree\Celsius

Wolfgang :)

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Re: [NTG-context] weather forecast

2010-09-11 Thread Alan BRASLAU
On Saturday 11 September 2010 18:22:39 Jano Kula wrote:
> Weather forecast is improving. Indian summer is here! Rain only on
> Wednesday.
> 
> week temperatures:
> day: 18-22 Celsius (in shadow, of course)
> night: 7-12 Celsius
> 
> Jano

18-22°C
- or -
18-22$^{\circ}$C
- or -
18-22\degree\Celsius
- or -
291-295\,K
?

Alan

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Re: [NTG-context] Units fonts and spacing

2010-09-11 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 11.09.2010 um 16:24 schrieb Alan BRASLAU:

> My two bits, for what it is worth...
> 
> I have never liked the \kilo\gram\meter\per\square\second
> particularly as we now have utf8 input.
> 
> To be most readable, kg.m/s² is far superior.
>   (and to be digestable by non-TeX users, as yes,
>   I do often share my document source with collegues
>   who do not use TeX, and they even often edit
>   them using MS-Word, for example, as a text editor)
> 
> I should use some sort of units module,
> as writing, as I do, 0{,}2\,nm$^2$ is pretty ugly!

We can discuss this next week. It’s also interesting what’s
Hans opinion about different input methods/modules.

Wolfgang

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[NTG-context] weather forecast

2010-09-11 Thread Jano Kula
Weather forecast is improving. Indian summer is here! Rain only on 
Wednesday.


week temperatures:
day: 18-22 Celsius (in shadow, of course)
night: 7-12 Celsius

Jano

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[NTG-context] natural tables -- split 'n grid

2010-09-11 Thread Philipp Gesang
Hi,

line correction leads to unwanted vertical spacing in split
natural tables. Example (in both MkII and MkIV):

··8<·
%\setuplayout[grid=yes] % not required to reproduce it
\starttext
\dorecurse{4}{\input knuth\par}
\startlinecorrection% fine without line correction
\bTABLE[split=yes]  % fine with split=no
\bTABLEhead
\bTR\bTH p\eTH\bTH q\eTH\bTH p or q\eTH\eTR
\eTABLEhead
\bTABLEbody
\bTR\bTC False\eTC\bTC False\eTC\bTC False\eTC\eTR
\bTR\bTC True\eTC\bTC False\eTC\bTC True\eTC\eTR
\bTR\bTC False\eTC\bTC True\eTC\bTC True\eTC\eTR
\bTR\bTC True\eTC\bTC True\eTC\bTC True\eTC\eTR
\eTABLEbody
\eTABLE
\stoplinecorrection
\stoptext
··8<·

What am I missing here? Is line correction even recommended for
use with tables? Why isn't it ignored if grid typesetting is
switched off? Thanks in advance,

Philipp

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Re: [NTG-context] Units fonts and spacing

2010-09-11 Thread Alan BRASLAU
On Saturday 11 September 2010 16:00:58 Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> 
> I’m not a friend of the ”m/s” input because you can’t say where a units
> starts/ends without adding separators between them, here is a example from
> latex’s siunitx package which supports both methods but although the first
> is shorter we should rely on the tex method
> 
> - si{kg.m/s^2}
> - si{\kilo\gram\metre\per\square\second}
> 

My two bits, for what it is worth...

I have never liked the \kilo\gram\meter\per\square\second
particularly as we now have utf8 input.

To be most readable, kg.m/s² is far superior.
(and to be digestable by non-TeX users, as yes,
I do often share my document source with collegues
who do not use TeX, and they even often edit
them using MS-Word, for example, as a text editor)

I should use some sort of units module,
as writing, as I do, 0{,}2\,nm$^2$ is pretty ugly!

Alan
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Re: [NTG-context] Units fonts and spacing

2010-09-11 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 11.09.2010 um 11:33 schrieb Hans Hagen:

>> Will siunits module be used as a base for this or will this be
>> something completely new?
> 
> I don't know what you mean with siunits. Wolfgangs module?  We have unit 
> support in context for along time (also as part of some mathml extensions). 
> So, we're more talking of an upgrade of the current module (units and digits) 
> and I will have a look at Wolfgangs code to see what additional support is in 
> there and we can merge things if needed.

He’s talking about my module. The difference between our modules is that your 
use “10 \Meter \Per \Second” for the input while i use 
”\siunit{10\meter\per\second}”.

There is nothing wrong about two modules with the same function as long as both 
do not cause a problem for the module (and i took care of this in my module).

Parts like the number parsing can become part of the core and you provide a 
function which others can use to integrate it in their own macros.

> The fundamentals of units are not going to change much, apart from the fact 
> that we can now parse m/s if needed instead of using the verbose names).

I’m not a friend of the ”m/s” input because you can’t say where a units 
starts/ends without adding separators between them, here is a example from 
latex’s siunitx package which supports both methods but although the first is 
shorter we should rely on the tex method

- si{kg.m/s^2}
- si{\kilo\gram\metre\per\square\second}

> Keep in mind that the units module runs on top of synonyms so that one can 
> ask for lists of used units and meanings of them.

Adding this function is no problem, synonyms can also be integrated in any 
other system.

Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] Units fonts and spacing

2010-09-11 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 11.09.2010 um 00:40 schrieb Vedran Miletić:

> To add a bit to this thread: just checked the siunits module, it's
> awesome. Spacing is right, sans font units work out of the box, no
> need for \ after the units and syntax for adding new units is very
> simple.

You should notice the module is beta (i haven't done anything since 10 months)
and more a concept of a new module for units than a working solution.

> I have a couple of questions:
> 1. How to change decimal separator and thousand separator?

decimal separator  : decimalpoint=...
thousand separator : thousandsseparator=...

> 2. Should'nt \siunit[thousandgroup=4]{1} produce 1 instead of
> 1. to be consistent with default thousandgroup=3?

dunno, i’m a least interested where it’s required to set thousandgroup to 4

> 3. \ss $\siunit{\square\kilo\meter}$ will produce all roman, but
> square will be sans. Why?

The module is configured to produce roman text, the number can be a side effect 
of math mode

Wolfgang


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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt meeting luggage

2010-09-11 Thread Jano Kula

On 09/11/2010 10:19 AM, Jaroslav Hajtmar wrote:
:-)

I fear that without the neoprene in the river no one will swim - unless
some excellent fan ice water ..

Jaroslav



Is the water really that cold?
Of course, we all hope that the weather for the week should be excellent!

Alan


A year ago when arranging the accomodation, I was swimming in the river 
without problems. It was very hot, so cooling was even needed. The water 
isn't crystal clear, so diving has no sense, but swimming a bit, is OK.


The weather is getting better, Tuesday sunny without clouds with 22 
degrees. Slightly colder with some rain (or vice versa) on Wednesday and 
Thursday. Then improving again on Friday and Saturday.


Jano



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Re: [NTG-context] [OT] Re: ConTeXt meeting luggage

2010-09-11 Thread Hans Hagen

On 11-9-2010 12:00, Taco Hoekwater wrote:

On 09/11/2010 11:50 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:


I thought that you were a specialist in LaTeX apparel?


well, you know what happened with yandy when they deciced no longer to
focus on tex backends and fonts ... (yandy dot com) ... a more
profitable kind of latex I guess


Creating beautiful latex garments is at least as challenging as creating
beautiful LaTeX documents (I tried, in earlier days). And
just like in LaTeX, the problem areas are glue control and insert
placement. Selling latex garments is also similar to selling LaTeX
books: it is quite a niche market and your clients are considered
fetishists by most other people.


indeed -)

btw, googling for mojca and latex brings me to

http://video.filestube.com/watch,348a09a53e47c2e803e9/ConTeXt-LaTeX-v-novi-preobleki-Mojca-Miklavec.html

now that is some garments she has on her back

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[NTG-context] [OT] Re: ConTeXt meeting luggage

2010-09-11 Thread Taco Hoekwater

On 09/11/2010 11:50 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:


I thought that you were a specialist in LaTeX apparel?


well, you know what happened with yandy when they deciced no longer to
focus on tex backends and fonts ... (yandy dot com) ... a more
profitable kind of latex I guess


Creating beautiful latex garments is at least as challenging as creating 
beautiful LaTeX documents (I tried, in earlier days). And

just like in LaTeX, the problem areas are glue control and insert
placement. Selling latex garments is also similar to selling LaTeX
books: it is quite a niche market and your clients are considered 
fetishists by most other people.



Best wishes,
Taco

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt meeting luggage

2010-09-11 Thread Hans Hagen

On 11-9-2010 11:46, Alan BRASLAU wrote:

On Saturday 11 September 2010 11:35:56 Mojca Miklavec wrote:

On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 10:19, Jaroslav Hajtmar wrote:

I fear that without the neoprene in the river no one will swim  - unless
some excellent fan ice water ..


So should we put neoprene clothes in the luggage then? How "warm" is the
water?

Mojca


I thought that you were a specialist in LaTeX apparel?


well, you know what happened with yandy when they deciced no longer to 
focus on tex backends and fonts ... (yandy dot com) ... a more 
profitable kind of latex I guess


Hans


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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt meeting luggage

2010-09-11 Thread luigi scarso
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Mojca Miklavec
 wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 10:19, Jaroslav Hajtmar wrote:
>>
>> I fear that without the neoprene in the river no one will swim  - unless
>> some excellent fan ice water ..
>
> So should we put neoprene clothes in the luggage then? How "warm" is the 
> water?
And a  resilni pas for sure ?

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt meeting luggage

2010-09-11 Thread Alan BRASLAU
On Saturday 11 September 2010 11:35:56 Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 10:19, Jaroslav Hajtmar wrote:
> > I fear that without the neoprene in the river no one will swim  - unless
> > some excellent fan ice water ..
> 
> So should we put neoprene clothes in the luggage then? How "warm" is the
> water?
> 
> Mojca

I thought that you were a specialist in LaTeX apparel?

Alan
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt meeting luggage

2010-09-11 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 10:19, Jaroslav Hajtmar wrote:
>
> I fear that without the neoprene in the river no one will swim  - unless
> some excellent fan ice water ..

So should we put neoprene clothes in the luggage then? How "warm" is the water?

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Units fonts and spacing

2010-09-11 Thread Hans Hagen

On 11-9-2010 12:13, Vedran Miletić wrote:

2010/9/10 Hans Hagen:

Is the new module with the old syntax (10 \Meter etc.) or a new one.


first I'm redoing digits

with regards to the units themselves, we can do both: \Meter \Per \Second
and m/s) .. i'm still considering doing it at the node end .. typical dark
winternight work with a movie/talkshow on tv in the background

Hans


Will siunits module be used as a base for this or will this be
something completely new?


I don't know what you mean with siunits. Wolfgangs module?  We have unit 
support in context for along time (also as part of some mathml 
extensions). So, we're more talking of an upgrade of the current module 
(units and digits) and I will have a look at Wolfgangs code to see what 
additional support is in there and we can merge things if needed.


The fundamentals of units are not going to change much, apart from the 
fact that we can now parse m/s if needed instead of using the verbose 
names).


Keep in mind that the units module runs on top of synonyms so that one 
can ask for lists of used units and meanings of them.


Anyhow, Wolfgang and I will look into it when we have time (and energy) 
so eventually something upgraded will show up.


Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt meeting luggage

2010-09-11 Thread Jaroslav Hajtmar

Dne 11.9.2010 1:05, luigi scarso napsal(a):

On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 11:37 PM, Jano Kula  wrote:
   

The river is only 2 meters away, so there will be more swimming this time.
 

This is why I still have not bought  new glasses

   

Think glasses for diving? :-)
I fear that without the neoprene in the river no one will swim  - unless 
some excellent fan ice water ..


Jaroslav

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