Re: [NTG-context] Ideas for restructuring the ConTeXt garden?
2011/3/12 Florian Wobbe florian.wo...@awi.de Maybe we should start a discussion in a new thread to find out: 5) how to better promote context to new/latex users? I think is needed a installation guide for non-technical. A guide not only for programmers but a simple guide for dummies. Like me, I write law books. Latex installation and update is very simple for beginners. On Windows with MiKTeX, everyone can write very soon his first document. Not so with ConTeXt, except old stand-alone installation. It's cause of frustration and after several attempts they give up. Then they return to LaTeX (like me too). ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Ideas for restructuring the ConTeXt garden?
2011/3/12 Florian Wobbe florian.wo...@awi.de Maybe we should start a discussion in a new thread to find out: 5) how to better promote context to new/latex users? I think is needed a installation guide for non-technical. A guide not only for programmers but a simple guide for dummies. Like me, I am no-developer, I write law books. Latex installation and update is very simple for beginners. On Windows with MiKTeX, everyone can write very soon his first document. Not so with ConTeXt, except old stand-alone installation. It's cause of frustration and after several attempts they give up. Then they return to LaTeX (like me too). ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] setupinmargin?
Well, I guess there is not a solution readily at hand. Awaiting that, I will pursue for the moment an alternative route to pseudo margin notes. Hans van der Meer On 15 mrt 2011, at 22:41, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Am 15.03.2011 um 16:00 schrieb Hans van der Meer: Step by step I am making progress. Now I have the problem that the margin note is generated from inside a framedtext. As a matter of fact, all elements of the text I am producing are a series of framedtext's with nothing in between. The problem then is, that the margin notes are withheld until something is typeset after a \stopframedtext. And that then coalesces all notes accumulated sofar. Example! My question therefore: can I force placing the note from within a \startframedtext-\stopframedtext pair? There is indeed a problem with margintexts in a box when they are used in horizontal mode. \starttext text\inmargin{1} text \vbox{\inmargin{2}text} \vbox{text\inmargin{3}} text text\inmargin{4} text \stoptext Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What are the best fonts to use
Cecil, thanks for asking this question. Even though the answers may/will be subjective, it is quite likely that there are people here who have given some thought to font choice. I agree with previous responses that reading a book on typography would certainly be helpful. Nevertheless, I am interested in hearing what fonts people like (if they do not mind sharing). I, and perhaps some others, may learn about a few fonts. Bharat On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 8:31 PM, David Rogers davidandrewrog...@gmail.com wrote: * Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com [2011-03-14 12:44]: At the moment I use for my ebook: \usetypescript[palatino][texnansi] \setupbodyfont[palatino,rm,12pt] Does not look to bad, but layout is not my forte. So if people have tips about the fonts to use, I like to hear them. Do you use other fonts when using a printed book? I don't think this question can have one answer. There are many good answers, depending on the kind of book (or other printed material). 1. I think the layout of the page itself can have a great deal to do with whether a certain font looks good (e.g. amount of white space, length of lines, etc). Paying proper attention to the gross aspects of your layout, such as margins and line heights, goes a long way to improving the appearance of the whole work, and brings out the best in whichever font you choose. 2. To some extent, different fonts can suit different material (e.g. a book of poems vs a financial report, or a textbook vs a novel). For extended reading, the conventional wisdom is to choose a normal-looking font that doesn't call attention to itself too much, but obviously you also want one that is at least somewhat attractive to look at. 3. Frankly, giving people what they are already used to is often the best plan - probably more often than typographers would care to admit. In my opinion, variation for its own sake is over-rated and over-used. -- David ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Ideas for restructuring the ConTeXt garden?
2011/3/14 Carlos Breton Besnier breton.car...@gmail.com 2011/3/12 Florian Wobbe florian.wo...@awi.de Maybe we should start a discussion in a new thread to find out: 5) how to better promote context to new/latex users? I think is needed a installation guide for non-technical. A guide not only for programmers but a simple guide for dummies. Like me, I am no-developer, I write law books. Latex installation and update is very simple for beginners. On Windows with MiKTeX, everyone can write very soon his first document. Not so with ConTeXt, except old stand-alone installation. It's cause of frustration and after several attempts they give up. Then they return to LaTeX (like me too). Well, with TeX Live 2010 it's very simple to use MkII with both pdfTeX and XeTeX. Hopefully, some future version of TeX Live (2011?) will offer the same for MkIV. Script is already there, it's just not integrated with TeXworks in TeX Live yet. Regards, Vedran Miletić ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Creation of PDF Oddly Differs on Ubuntu and Mac OS X
All, I am using ConTeXt to create a PDF for upload to Lulu.com. I am getting the following exception using the LuLu Python publication API on Mac OS X 10.6.6 with Python 2.6.6 or 2.7.1: ServiceError: Couldn't create Lulu project. '{error_type: LFilesystemException, error_value: shell command failed: rm -rf \'/opt/stable/stable/htdocs/items/volume_69/1029/10290657\' 21\\nrm: cannot remove directory `/opt/stable/stable/htdocs/items/volume_69/1029/10290657/1/cover\': Directory not empty, HTTPErrorCode: 500}' Oddly, the exact same code works fine on Ubuntu 10.04 LTS with Python 2.6.5. I have track down the issue to the difference between the _cover_ PDF created on Ubuntu with ConTeXt ver: 2009.11.26 16:28 MKIV and on Mac OS X with ConTeXt ver: 2010.05.24 13:05 MKIV, although the cover PDF generated on either platform appears correctly in Preview. I have posted an archive that illustrates the issue at http://www.synterein.com/lulu_context_issues/lulu_context_issue_01.zip Any wisdom out there? What should I look for next? Ray. 978-621-5755 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What are the best fonts to use
Dear all, In light of the question on fonts I have wondered how ConTeXt deals with this Monotype Baskerville 11/12.5 pt or Monotype 11 on 12 point Bembo that I see at the beginning of books. Are there commands to achieve this. There probably are but I haven't recognised them. Thanks, Charlie On 16 Mar 2011, at 11:45, Curiouslearn wrote: Cecil, thanks for asking this question. Even though the answers may/will be subjective, it is quite likely that there are people here who have given some thought to font choice. I agree with previous responses that reading a book on typography would certainly be helpful. Nevertheless, I am interested in hearing what fonts people like (if they do not mind sharing). I, and perhaps some others, may learn about a few fonts. Bharat ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What are the best fonts to use
Hi, Graphic designers describe in this way the font-size and linespacing. So one can do things like this: \definedfont[Baskerville at 11pt]\setupinterlinespace[line=12.5pt]... Willi On 16 Mar 2011, at 13:50, Charles Doherty wrote: Dear all, In light of the question on fonts I have wondered how ConTeXt deals with this Monotype Baskerville 11/12.5 pt or Monotype 11 on 12 point Bembo that I see at the beginning of books. Are there commands to achieve this. There probably are but I haven't recognised them. Thanks, Charlie On 16 Mar 2011, at 11:45, Curiouslearn wrote: Cecil, thanks for asking this question. Even though the answers may/will be subjective, it is quite likely that there are people here who have given some thought to font choice. I agree with previous responses that reading a book on typography would certainly be helpful. Nevertheless, I am interested in hearing what fonts people like (if they do not mind sharing). I, and perhaps some others, may learn about a few fonts. Bharat ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What are the best fonts to use
Ah Willi, It is quite clear now. I did think along those lines but wasn't sure. Thank you very much, Charlie On 16 Mar 2011, at 12:59, Willi Egger wrote: Hi, Graphic designers describe in this way the font-size and linespacing. So one can do things like this: \definedfont[Baskerville at 11pt]\setupinterlinespace[line=12.5pt]... Willi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What are the best fonts to use
Am 2011-03-16 um 13:59 schrieb Willi Egger: Graphic designers describe in this way the font-size and linespacing. So one can do things like this: \definedfont[Baskerville at 11pt]\setupinterlinespace[line=12.5pt]... But use bp instead of pt - TeX's point is smaller than a PostScript point, we had that recently... see also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_(typography) Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] (RSFS) font installation
Hi, like others before, I tried to get the script alphabet from Ralph Smith's Formal Font to work in MkIV (minimals) and failed. There seems to be only outdated or unclear and unspecific information about where to start with fonts available. Or: there is information everywhere but I can't put it together. I downloaded a rsfs.zip from [1] containing .mf, .pfb, .afm, .pfm files and a .map file. It seems to be a type1 font. The manual [2] states, that a script texfont.pl can do install the font. Mojca said [3] on the mailing list that texfont is not the way to go, so I didn't try to go further in that direction. Do I need .tfm files? If so, how to get them? I put the rsfs directory with its subdirs from the .zip to the folder c:\context\tex\texmf-fonts\fonts\data\ as Wolfgang suggested [4] and ran context --generate. I seems as if this did not install the font, but I have no idea. How can I check this? \definefont[rsfs][file:rsfs*default] \starttext \rsfs ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ \stoptext just gave me the alphabet in default font. Is there a way to ask ConTeXt which fonts (or does ConTeXt know typescripts?) it knows? In addition, I tried the example from Hans and Otared at [5] which crashes on my installation (error log appended at the end). I don't know how to proceed here. Hopefully someone from this list can assist me. Thanks in advance. Kind regards, Stefan [1] http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/fonts/rsfs/ [2] http://pmrb.free.fr/contextref.pdf [3] http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20101213.120015.795450f2.en.html [4] http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20101214.102347.a6a2216f.en.html [5] http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20100414.122529.bc3ba584.en.html mtx-context | warning: syntex is enabled mtx-context | run 1: luatex --synctex=1 --fmt=C:/context/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/5fe67e0bfe781ce0dde776fb1556f32e/formats/cont-en --lua=C:/context/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/5fe67e0bfe781ce0dde776fb1556f32e/formats/cont-en.lui --backend=pdf ./rsfs_test.tex This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.66.0-2011021923 (rev 4086) \write18 enabled. (rsfs_test.tex ConTeXt ver: 2011.02.25 22:03 MKIV fmt: 2011.3.16 int: english/english system cont-new.mkiv loaded (C:/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/cont-new.mkiv system beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.mkiv ) system rsfs_test.top loaded (rsfs_test.top) fontslatin modern fonts are not preloaded languageslanguage en is active (C:/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/type-siz.mkiv) (C:/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/type-otf.mkiv){C:/context/tex/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/lm/lm-math.map}{C:/context/tex/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/lm/lm-rm.map}{C:/context/tex/texmf-context/fonts/map/pdftex/context/mkiv-base.map} system begin file rsfs_test.tex at line 41 backend xmp using file 'C:/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/lpdf-pdx.xml' pagesflushing realpage 1, userpage 1, subpage 1 system end file rsfs_test.tex at line 57 ){C:/context/tex/texmf/fonts/enc/dvips/lm/lm-mathsy.enc}{C:/context/tex/texmf/fonts/enc/dvips/lm/lm-mathit.enc}C:/context/tex/texmf/fonts/opentype/public/lm/lmroman10-regular.otfC:/context/tex/texmf-fonts/fonts/data/rsfs/type1/rsfs10.pfbType1: Could not understand Type1 font: C:/context/tex/texmf-fonts/fonts/data/rsfs/type1/rsfs10.pfb mtx-context | fatal error: return code: 1 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What are the best fonts to use
Thank you Hraban, It is falling into place now. Charlie On 16 Mar 2011, at 13:18, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: But use bp instead of pt - TeX's point is smaller than a PostScript point, we had that recently... see also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_(typography) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] (RSFS) font installation
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 09:00, Stefan Müller warrence@gmx.de wrote: like others before, I tried to get the script alphabet from Ralph Smith's Formal Font to work in MkIV (minimals) and failed. There seems to be only outdated or unclear and unspecific information about where to start with fonts available. Or: there is information everywhere but I can't put it together. I downloaded a rsfs.zip from [1] containing .mf, .pfb, .afm, .pfm files and a .map file. It seems to be a type1 font. The manual [2] states, that a script texfont.pl can do install the font. Mojca said [3] on the mailing list that texfont is not the way to go, so I didn't try to go further in that direction. Do I need .tfm files? If so, how to get them? You don't need tfm files and you don't need to use texfont.pl. I put the rsfs directory with its subdirs from the .zip to the folder c:\context\tex\texmf-fonts\fonts\data\ as Wolfgang suggested [4] and ran context --generate. I seems as if this did not install the font, but I have no idea. How can I check this? For mkiv minimals, the following should work: a) Install font as appropriate for your OS. b) Make sure OS font directory containing font pfb file is included in OSFONTDIR c) Update LuaTeX's font info by running mtxrun --script fonts --reload d) Check the list of fonts using mtxrun --script fonts --list --all --pattern=* At that point you have the font known to LuaTeX. Then you need to set it up in your document; I posted a full example of that a while back, it's at http://pastebin.tlhiv.org/9GeRRcI4 but I haven't put it into the wiki yet. mathew -- URL:http://www.pobox.com/~meta/ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Does MKIV take more time as MKII
On 14-3-2011 8:52, Mojca Miklavec wrote: PS: You would get the same kind of behaviour in MKII (however if MKII only runs twice and if there is a speed factor of 1.5, you could declare MKII being three times faster which does make some difference when compilation time is long). depends on the changes ... in an automated flow, if you knwo what happens you can limit it with a flag PPS (not to be taken (too) seriously): But I wouldn't be surprized if, say, two years from now you would try to repeat the experiment just to find out that MKIV became faster. (Unlikely to happen, but imaging sure, i'm current redoing the font code a bit and gain some time (and memory in mkiv) .. but don't expect miracles Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Ctx running once?
On 14-3-2011 11:08, Procházka Lukáš wrote: Hello, is there a possibility how to let Ctx run just once, not three times (as usually), keeping in mind that TOC and/or page numbers may be wrong, just to check correctness of the document? - I have a longer document with enough MP code and I'm interested often just whether there is no error in the Ctx/MP code, so in this case a successful (= the first) run of Ctx is enough for me for that moment. - So is there a switch, e.g. context.exe --err-check or context.exe --once or something like this? how about running context --help ... - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What are the best fonts to use
Hi, I recently started to dabble in typography. There's a lot to learn there. The proposed book sure is a good start, but there are also lots of online resources (e.g. www.typophile.com - their forum is filled with interesting discussions about your question). What I've learned in the last months is that there are no hard rules - only guidelines. When it comes to choosing a font for a book, it depends (like already mentioned) on the kind of book. A dragon-fantasy book may take a different font than a childrens book or a futuristic novel. Compare for example Monotype Centaur to ITC Stone Serif. Then again, the font should not distract from the contents of the book, but it can help adding a little soul to it. You also have to consider the features you need. Do you need greek or russian characters? Do you need small caps? How is the ligature support? Maybe oldstyle numbers would be nice? Do the italics please you or are they too fancy and somehow don't fit in? How many cuts (italic, semibold, bold) do you need? Another tip would be: go to the library or check the books you own for a pleasing design and adopt it (I think in this case, copying/ stealing is a good thing ;). Sometimes the typeface used is mentioned on the publishing information on the first couple of pages. If not, use www.whatthefont.com and a scan/photo to identify or use www.identifont.com with the QA system. And theres always the list of more or less safe fonts (no claim to be complete): Arnhem Bembo Caslon Dante Fournier Garamond Goudy (Old Style) Hoefler Text Janson Text Minion Palatino Sabon Stone And finally: Your budget. Are you willing to buy fonts? That would probably come in at 30-60 bucks (but that's nothing if you are serious aboutt your book). If not, some of the above can be obtained for free (still being commercial fonts, e.g. Minion with Adobe Reader, Hoefler Text is on Mac OSX...) but only a few are really free. Apart from the TeX-fonts I can thing of Linux Libertine (not resticted to Linux, despite the name), Vollkorn or some from The League of moveable type. As a final inspiration, this beauty: http://fontsinuse.com/moby-dick-the-arion-press-edition/ Take care, Christian Am 20:59, schrieb Curiouslearn: Cecil, thanks for asking this question. Even though the answers may/will be subjective, it is quite likely that there are people here who have given some thought to font choice. I agree with previous responses that reading a book on typography would certainly be helpful. Nevertheless, I am interested in hearing what fonts people like (if they do not mind sharing). I, and perhaps some others, may learn about a few fonts. Bharat On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 8:31 PM, David Rogers davidandrewrog...@gmail.com wrote: * Cecil Westerhofcldwester...@gmail.com [2011-03-14 12:44]: At the moment I use for my ebook: \usetypescript[palatino][texnansi] \setupbodyfont[palatino,rm,12pt] Does not look to bad, but layout is not my forte. So if people have tips about the fonts to use, I like to hear them. Do you use other fonts when using a printed book? I don't think this question can have one answer. There are many good answers, depending on the kind of book (or other printed material). 1. I think the layout of the page itself can have a great deal to do with whether a certain font looks good (e.g. amount of white space, length of lines, etc). Paying proper attention to the gross aspects of your layout, such as margins and line heights, goes a long way to improving the appearance of the whole work, and brings out the best in whichever font you choose. 2. To some extent, different fonts can suit different material (e.g. a book of poems vs a financial report, or a textbook vs a novel). For extended reading, the conventional wisdom is to choose a normal-looking font that doesn't call attention to itself too much, but obviously you also want one that is at least somewhat attractive to look at. 3. Frankly, giving people what they are already used to is often the best plan - probably more often than typographers would care to admit. In my opinion, variation for its own sake is over-rated and over-used. -- David ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive :
Re: [NTG-context] Does MKIV take more time as MKII
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 5:39 PM, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote: On 14-3-2011 8:52, Mojca Miklavec wrote: PS: You would get the same kind of behaviour in MKII (however if MKII only runs twice and if there is a speed factor of 1.5, you could declare MKII being three times faster which does make some difference when compilation time is long). depends on the changes ... in an automated flow, if you knwo what happens you can limit it with a flag PPS (not to be taken (too) seriously): But I wouldn't be surprized if, say, two years from now you would try to repeat the experiment just to find out that MKIV became faster. (Unlikely to happen, but imaging sure, i'm current redoing the font code a bit and gain some time (and memory in mkiv) .. but don't expect miracles Maybe luajit can improve things considerably. -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] 620 pages limit?
On 14-3-2011 10:35, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Am 14.03.2011 um 18:02 schrieb luigi scarso: \starttext \dorecurse{5000} {\input knuth \page } \stoptext A little bit faster but with the same error message: \count0=0 \loop\ifnum\count05000 \advance\count0 by 1 \shipout\vbox{} \repeat \end \starttext \dorecurse{1} {test: \recurselevel\page} \stoptext pdftex + mkii : 35 sec xetex + mkii : 35 sec luatex + mkiv : 40 sec no crashes. - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Does MKIV take more time as MKII
On 16-3-2011 5:52, luigi scarso wrote: Maybe luajit can improve things considerably. i wonder ... we don't do that many calculations light userdata might help some (is on the agenda to be looke dinto) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] setupinmargin?
On 16-3-2011 9:01, Hans van der Meer wrote: Well, I guess there is not a solution readily at hand. Awaiting that, I will pursue for the moment an alternative route to pseudo margin notes. scope=local - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] 620 pages limit? (SOLVED)
Taco found the bug (thanks!): There is a fix luatex rev. 4093. Steffen ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What are the best fonts to use
On 16 mrt. 2011, at 17:51, Christian meta...@gmx.de wrote: And finally: Your budget. Are you willing to buy fonts? That would probably come in at 30-60 bucks (but that's nothing if you are serious aboutt your book). If not, some of the above can be obtained for free (still being commercial fonts, e.g. Minion with Adobe Reader, Hoefler Text is on Mac OSX...) Be sure to read the license for those: many of these bundled fonts are only 'free' for use within the application they came with. I am pretty sure that is the case for the Adobe Reader fonts. Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Creation of PDF Oddly Differs on Ubuntu and Mac OS X
All, I could have phrased my question better ... here is another attempt: I use ConTeXt to generate a PDF for upload using the command context filename on either Mac OS X or Ubuntu. I have installed ConTeXt by installing a TeX Live distribution on each platform. The command completes without error on either platform. The PDFs open in Preview (a Mac OS X application for viewing PDFs) and appear to be correct, regardless of on which platform the PDFs were created. However, the upload of the PDF created on Mac OS X fails, while the upload of the PDF created on Ubuntu works. So, there is something different about these two PDFs which I cannot determine by opening them in an application for viewing PDFs. But I do not know what is different, or how to find out. I have posted an archive that illustrates the issue at http://www.synterein.com/lulu_context_issues/lulu_context_issue_01.zip Any and all ideas would be appreciated. Ray. On Mar 16, 2011, at 8:49 AM, Raymond LeClair wrote: All, I am using ConTeXt to create a PDF for upload to Lulu.com. I am getting the following exception using the LuLu Python publication API on Mac OS X 10.6.6 with Python 2.6.6 or 2.7.1: ServiceError: Couldn't create Lulu project. '{error_type: LFilesystemException, error_value: shell command failed: rm -rf \'/opt/stable/stable/htdocs/items/volume_69/1029/10290657\' 21\\nrm: cannot remove directory `/opt/stable/stable/htdocs/items/volume_69/1029/10290657/1/cover\': Directory not empty, HTTPErrorCode: 500}' Oddly, the exact same code works fine on Ubuntu 10.04 LTS with Python 2.6.5. I have track down the issue to the difference between the _cover_ PDF created on Ubuntu with ConTeXt ver: 2009.11.26 16:28 MKIV and on Mac OS X with ConTeXt ver: 2010.05.24 13:05 MKIV, although the cover PDF generated on either platform appears correctly in Preview. I have posted an archive that illustrates the issue at http://www.synterein.com/lulu_context_issues/lulu_context_issue_01.zip Any wisdom out there? What should I look for next? Ray. 978-621-5755 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What are the best fonts to use
Good point. Metadata of the font says its licene can be found here: http://www.adobe.com/type/legal.html Be sure to read it. It's probably best to check with Adobe before using it commercially or just buying it. But at least you can try out the font in context, which is already a plus. Other commercial fonts can only be judged from specimen, and not in your own text environment. Cheers, Christian Am 20:59, schrieb Taco Hoekwater: On 16 mrt. 2011, at 17:51, Christianmeta...@gmx.de wrote: And finally: Your budget. Are you willing to buy fonts? That would probably come in at 30-60 bucks (but that's nothing if you are serious aboutt your book). If not, some of the above can be obtained for free (still being commercial fonts, e.g. Minion with Adobe Reader, Hoefler Text is on Mac OSX...) Be sure to read the license for those: many of these bundled fonts are only 'free' for use within the application they came with. I am pretty sure that is the case for the Adobe Reader fonts. Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___