Re: [NTG-context] Small integral signes with Palatino
On May 27, 2012, at 7:27 PM, Aditya Mahajan wrote: BTW, what is the status of Pagella Math? Nearly complete from what I hear. Steve ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Math fonts in TeXLive 2012
On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Tim Steenvoorden wrote: Does anyone know if Millenial will be supported by TeXLive 2012? On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 3:58 AM, Mojca Miklavec mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com wrote: I don't find the font on CTAN. I guess that would be the main requirement. I hope to submit Millennial to CTAN this summer, but it probably won't be for another month or so. There's still several things to fix, and it would be nice to have some documentation. However, I wouldn't be opposed to the initial public release from 20110819 being used in TeXLive2012. Best wishes, Stephen ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] \setuplayout[location=duplex] not working? (probably since a year)
Hello there. I'm messing around with imposition schemas and I think I've
hit a bug or a dropped feature (but documented in the printed manual).
Minimal example:
\setuppapersize[A5][A4]
\setuplayout[location=duplex]
\starttext
\dorecurse{20}{
\input knuth
}
\stoptext
As far as I can see, the duplex location is ignored, as the page is
always put in the left corner. Am I doing something wrong? The behaviour
is the same with the one-year-old ConTeXt from TeXlive2011.
--
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Re: [NTG-context] How to typeset recipe symbol for a doctor's prescription pad
Dear Joel, For the next time, PLEASE don't try to reply to digest. Please, also don't try to reply to unrelated messages by changing their subject (just because it is easier that placing email of the mailing list into a new template) since that confuses message archives completely. Please, always start a NEW message for a new topic and write or copy-paste ntg-context at ntg.nl into the appropriate field. Don't try to cheat by replying to unrelated messages. (And even if you absolutely must do that, then please, at least DELETE everything else that is not related.) In particular - in case that you are reading ConTeXt mailing list in digest mode, please don't reply to digest, leaving thirty other unrelated messages in the same post. When using digest mode it might also help to add yourself to CC in your own message or to ask people to add you to CC, so that you get the answer directly, can reply in a clean way and don't have to wait for digest to arrive to solve your problem. Mojca On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 5:24 AM, yuji sakai wrote: Good day! ... From: ntg-context-request@... ntg-context-request@... To: ntg-context@... ntg-context@... Sent: May 29, 2012 3:27 AM Subject: ntg-context Digest, Vol 95, Issue 102 Send ntg-context mailing list submissions to ntg-context@... To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ntg-context-request@... You can reach the person managing the list at ntg-context-owner@... When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of ntg-context digest... ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Small integral signes with Palatino
Steve Peter schrieb: On May 27, 2012, at 7:27 PM, Aditya Mahajan wrote: BTW, what is the status of Pagella Math? Nearly complete from what I hear. it is available from CTAN: http://CTAN.ORG/tex-archive/fonts/tex-gyre-math Herbert ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \setuplayout[location=duplex] not working? (probably since a year)
Am 29.05.2012 um 10:10 schrieb Marco Pessotto:
Hello there. I'm messing around with imposition schemas and I think I've
hit a bug or a dropped feature (but documented in the printed manual).
Minimal example:
\setuppapersize[A5][A4]
\setuplayout[location=duplex]
\starttext
\dorecurse{20}{
\input knuth
}
\stoptext
As far as I can see, the duplex location is ignored, as the page is
always put in the left corner. Am I doing something wrong? The behaviour
is the same with the one-year-old ConTeXt from TeXlive2011.
You can set “location=doublesided” but “duplex” isn’t a valid argument and even
then it works only when you have a double sided document.
\setuppapersize[A5][A4]
\setuplayout[location=doublesided]
\setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]
\starttext
\dorecurse{20}{
\input knuth
}
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] Apology
Good day! I would like to apologize for whatever trouble my earlier post caused the message archive system. Rest assured that no ill intention was behind that. Honestly, I haven't been posting anything for quite a while now, and I have already forgotten how to... At least in a proper way. I was caught up in the middle of something earlier as I was trying to look for a solution to my problem when I posted my query. It was only after Mojca called my attention just now that I noticed that I have not deleted the rest of the unrelated posts in the bulletin that I used to reach the mailing list. Only now did I realize what a mess that has caused. I am still learning the ropes in using ConTeXt MKIV. But instead of asking questions about the things that I needed done, I have done my best to search for the answers myself. Only when I feel (at the time) that my search has been futile do I come to this mailing list for help... And that is as a last resort. To Aditya, thank you very much for your very prompt reply. I already knew the unicode for the recipe sign prior to posting my inquiry, and was hoping there would be another way to do it. At the time of posting, I was having problems typesetting unicode characters in MKIV but soon figured that out by the time I received Aditya's response. But nonetheless, I am grateful for Aditya's help. Cheating, I believe, has a connotation of one bypassing the norms to gain undue advantage over others. To that, I refuse to admit that what I did earlier was cheating. As I have said, I had no intention of disrupting this message board. It was a careless mistake on my part. Anyway, thank you all for your help. Joel ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \setuplayout[location=duplex] not working? (probably since a year)
Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com writes:
Am 29.05.2012 um 10:10 schrieb Marco Pessotto:
You can set “location=doublesided” but “duplex” isn’t a valid argument
and even then it works only when you have a double sided document.
Well, I took it from the printed manual (Layouts in ConTeXt, p.97), I
didn't invent it myself.
\setuppapersize[A5][A4]
\setuplayout[location=doublesided]
\setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]
\starttext
\dorecurse{20}{
\input knuth
}
\stoptext
This indeed works. Thanks.
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Re: [NTG-context] Small integral signes with Palatino
The integral sign is now big enough, but spacing between the sign and its bounds is too large... (In the px-font.) Cheers, Tim 2012/5/29 Herbert Voss herbert.v...@fu-berlin.de: Steve Peter schrieb: On May 27, 2012, at 7:27 PM, Aditya Mahajan wrote: BTW, what is the status of Pagella Math? Nearly complete from what I hear. it is available from CTAN: http://CTAN.ORG/tex-archive/fonts/tex-gyre-math Herbert ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Small integral signes with Palatino
The same is true for other mathfonts discussed in the thread Math fonts in TeXLive 2012. Cheers, Tim 2012/5/29 Tim Steenvoorden tim.steenvoor...@gmail.com: The integral sign is now big enough, but spacing between the sign and its bounds is too large... (In the px-font.) Cheers, Tim 2012/5/29 Herbert Voss herbert.v...@fu-berlin.de: Steve Peter schrieb: On May 27, 2012, at 7:27 PM, Aditya Mahajan wrote: BTW, what is the status of Pagella Math? Nearly complete from what I hear. it is available from CTAN: http://CTAN.ORG/tex-archive/fonts/tex-gyre-math Herbert ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] pushing margintext up
On 28.05.2012, at 19:02, Hans Hagen wrote: On 28-5-2012 18:44, Philipp Gesang wrote: Hi Andy, On 2012-05-27 17:57, Andy Thomas wrote: Hello, could someone point out to me, where in the standalone installation the 'margin float placement' algorithm lives. it depends: Floats: strc-flt.mkvi Side floats: page-sid.mkiv Margin data (as in your example): typo-mar.mkiv and their respective .lua companions. I suspect you will be interested in the function „inject()“ (part of the finalizer) in typo-mar.lua. keep in mind that this is not finished yet i.e. there is no api at the lua end yet is there a way for margintext to 'respect' the lower border of the page and push the margintext up, pushing other margintexts upwards while doing so? +1, I’m curious too whether this can be done. maybe some day when I'm looking into the page builder code Hans Is it possible, as a workaround for now, to make every \margintext call to virtually occur at the first line of the page? Then, they are stacked in sequence in the margin from the top of the page down, but on the page they occur. Thank you for help, Andy - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] pushing margintext up
On 29-5-2012 11:37, Andy Thomas wrote: On 28.05.2012, at 19:02, Hans Hagen wrote: On 28-5-2012 18:44, Philipp Gesang wrote: Hi Andy, On 2012-05-27 17:57, Andy Thomas wrote: Hello, could someone point out to me, where in the standalone installation the 'margin float placement' algorithm lives. it depends: Floats: strc-flt.mkvi Side floats: page-sid.mkiv Margin data (as in your example): typo-mar.mkiv and their respective .lua companions. I suspect you will be interested in the function „inject()“ (part of the finalizer) in typo-mar.lua. keep in mind that this is not finished yet i.e. there is no api at the lua end yet is there a way for margintext to 'respect' the lower border of the page and push the margintext up, pushing other margintexts upwards while doing so? +1, I’m curious too whether this can be done. maybe some day when I'm looking into the page builder code Hans Is it possible, as a workaround for now, to make every \margintext call to virtually occur at the first line of the page? Then, they are stacked in sequence in the margin from the top of the page down, but on the page they occur. not in the next few weeks as we don't change anything fundamental while in tex live code freeze / going current .. only fixes now Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] pushing margintext up
On 2012-05-29 11:37, Andy Thomas wrote: On 28.05.2012, at 19:02, Hans Hagen wrote: On 28-5-2012 18:44, Philipp Gesang wrote: Hi Andy, On 2012-05-27 17:57, Andy Thomas wrote: Hello, could someone point out to me, where in the standalone installation the 'margin float placement' algorithm lives. it depends: Floats: strc-flt.mkvi Side floats: page-sid.mkiv Margin data (as in your example): typo-mar.mkiv and their respective .lua companions. I suspect you will be interested in the function „inject()“ (part of the finalizer) in typo-mar.lua. keep in mind that this is not finished yet i.e. there is no api at the lua end yet is there a way for margintext to 'respect' the lower border of the page and push the margintext up, pushing other margintexts upwards while doing so? +1, I’m curious too whether this can be done. maybe some day when I'm looking into the page builder code Hans Is it possible, as a workaround for now, to make every \margintext call to virtually occur at the first line of the page? Then, they are stacked in sequence in the margin from the top of the page down, but on the page they occur. Don’t marginblocks behave like that? ···8··· \definepapersize[wissenschaft][width=170mm,height=240mm] \setuppapersize [wissenschaft] \setuplayout [topspace=40pt, header=0pt, headerdistance=0pt, backspace=42pt, leftmargin=0pt, width=280pt, height=560pt, rightmargindistance=20pt, rightmargin=100pt, footer=0pt] \setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided] %% Margin block setup. \setupmarginblock[ style=bold, align=outer, ] \startbuffer [mblock_demo] This is too low, if there are many words in this note. \stopbuffer \starttext \showframe \input tufte \input tufte %% first one’s at top of first page \input tufte\startmarginblock\getbuffer[mblock_demo]\stopmarginblock \page %% next one at top of second, third one immediately below \input tufte\startmarginblock\getbuffer[mblock_demo]\stopmarginblock \input tufte\startmarginblock\getbuffer[mblock_demo]\stopmarginblock \input tufte \stoptext ···8··· Regards, Philipp -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments pgp61UXngPQ8T.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Spacing for {\cal P} in XITS
Hi,
I just noticed that the spacing after ${\cal P}$ looks a bit too tight
(non-existent?) while using XITS fonts.
\setupbodyfont[xits]
\starttext
The spacing of ${\cal P}$ looks like this.
\stoptext
I'm not sure if the other calligraphic letters are totally fine
either, but this one caught my eye. I suppose it's a font issue. Any
ideas?
Best regards,
Janne Junnila
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Re: [NTG-context] Spacing for {\cal P} in XITS
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 01:19:00PM +0300, Janne Junnila wrote:
Hi,
I just noticed that the spacing after ${\cal P}$ looks a bit too tight
(non-existent?) while using XITS fonts.
\setupbodyfont[xits]
\starttext
The spacing of ${\cal P}$ looks like this.
\stoptext
I'm not sure if the other calligraphic letters are totally fine
either, but this one caught my eye. I suppose it's a font issue. Any
ideas?
Looks fine here (in my eyes at least), can you attach the resulting PDF?
Regards,
Khaled
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Re: [NTG-context] Math fonts in TeXLive 2012
On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 09:55:49PM +0200, Mojca Miklavec wrote: Euler is also used in the magazine ... but of course it is up to Khaled if he doesn't want to include the font. Khaled - would you at least be ready to offer tar.xz file (one sufficient for direct installation into TL) or put it into tlcontrib? I don't feel like encouraging people to use it, but feel free to pull it from git and package it if you really want to do so. Regards, Khaled ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Spacing for {\cal P} in XITS
On May 29, 2012, at 8:13 AM, Khaled Hosny wrote:
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 01:19:00PM +0300, Janne Junnila wrote:
Hi,
I just noticed that the spacing after ${\cal P}$ looks a bit too tight
(non-existent?) while using XITS fonts.
...
Looks fine here (in my eyes at least), can you attach the resulting PDF?
Regards,
Khaled
On this input:
\setupbodyfont[xits]
\starttext
The spacing of ${\cal P}$ looks like this.\par
The spacing of \vrule${\cal P}$\vrule looks like this.
\stoptext
I got similar to what Janne described. See attached (beta ver. 2012.05.29
00:12). Looks like the kerning might be a little off?
Michael
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Re: [NTG-context] Spacing for {\cal P} in XITS
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 12:29:02PM +, Rogers, Michael K wrote:
On May 29, 2012, at 8:13 AM, Khaled Hosny wrote:
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 01:19:00PM +0300, Janne Junnila wrote:
Hi,
I just noticed that the spacing after ${\cal P}$ looks a bit too tight
(non-existent?) while using XITS fonts.
...
Looks fine here (in my eyes at least), can you attach the resulting PDF?
Regards,
Khaled
On this input:
\setupbodyfont[xits]
\starttext
The spacing of ${\cal P}$ looks like this.\par
The spacing of \vrule${\cal P}$\vrule looks like this.
\stoptext
I got similar to what Janne described. See attached (beta ver.
2012.05.29 00:12). Looks like the kerning might be a little off?
Looks fine here, bot TL 2012 presets and up to date minimals.
Regards,
Khaled
x.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document
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Re: [NTG-context] Spacing for {\cal P} in XITS
Hello,
it looks off on my computer (Mac 10.6 with preview and acrobat) and with the
context-standalone (from 1 hour ago). However, it does work with TL2011 (not
12).
Then, I copied (overwrote) the fonts from TL into the standalone (from
/Library/TeX/Root/texmf-dist/fonts/opentype/public/xits/ to
~/context/tex/texmf/fonts/opentype/public/xits/) and deleted the cache. But
that did not help, the context standalone still produces the 'too-close P'. I
also tried the newest font files from yesterday, but still no luck. Hope that
help finding the bug.
Andy
P.S. Is there more to be considered than only the font files (the .otf s)?
On 29.05.2012, at 14:39, Khaled Hosny wrote:
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 12:29:02PM +, Rogers, Michael K wrote:
On May 29, 2012, at 8:13 AM, Khaled Hosny wrote:
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 01:19:00PM +0300, Janne Junnila wrote:
Hi,
I just noticed that the spacing after ${\cal P}$ looks a bit too tight
(non-existent?) while using XITS fonts.
...
Looks fine here (in my eyes at least), can you attach the resulting PDF?
Regards,
Khaled
On this input:
\setupbodyfont[xits]
\starttext
The spacing of ${\cal P}$ looks like this.\par
The spacing of \vrule${\cal P}$\vrule looks like this.
\stoptext
I got similar to what Janne described. See attached (beta ver.
2012.05.29 00:12). Looks like the kerning might be a little off?
Looks fine here, bot TL 2012 presets and up to date minimals.
Regards,
Khaled
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Re: [NTG-context] Spacing for {\cal P} in XITS
I'm using a Mac, too, with OSX 10.6, if that helps.
On May 29, 2012, at 9:43 AM, Andy Thomas wrote:
Hello,
it looks off on my computer (Mac 10.6 with preview and acrobat) and with the
context-standalone (from 1 hour ago). However, it does work with TL2011 (not
12).
Then, I copied (overwrote) the fonts from TL into the standalone (from
/Library/TeX/Root/texmf-dist/fonts/opentype/public/xits/ to
~/context/tex/texmf/fonts/opentype/public/xits/) and deleted the cache. But
that did not help, the context standalone still produces the 'too-close P'. I
also tried the newest font files from yesterday, but still no luck. Hope that
help finding the bug.
Andy
P.S. Is there more to be considered than only the font files (the .otf s)?
On 29.05.2012, at 14:39, Khaled Hosny wrote:
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 12:29:02PM +, Rogers, Michael K wrote:
On May 29, 2012, at 8:13 AM, Khaled Hosny wrote:
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 01:19:00PM +0300, Janne Junnila wrote:
Hi,
I just noticed that the spacing after ${\cal P}$ looks a bit too tight
(non-existent?) while using XITS fonts.
...
Looks fine here (in my eyes at least), can you attach the resulting PDF?
Regards,
Khaled
On this input:
\setupbodyfont[xits]
\starttext
The spacing of ${\cal P}$ looks like this.\par
The spacing of \vrule${\cal P}$\vrule looks like this.
\stoptext
I got similar to what Janne described. See attached (beta ver.
2012.05.29 00:12). Looks like the kerning might be a little off?
Looks fine here, bot TL 2012 presets and up to date minimals.
Regards,
Khaled
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Re: [NTG-context] Spacing for {\cal P} in XITS
Doesn't seem to be only macs, I'm on Linux using the latest beta. The PDF I get is like the one Michael sent earlier. I tried other calligraphic letters with the vrules, and it seems that some of them have similar issues, just not as striking as with P. - Janne ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
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[NTG-context] Is it possible to define a custom imposition schema? (sure it is, but how?)
Hello there.
I'd need a custom imposition schema, just like the 2*4*2, but first the
sheets will be folded, then inserted in signatures of 16 pages, and then
finally bound. (They said the machine can fold only one sheet).
I came up with 3 solutions (or 3 hacks, as you wish):
1. psutils/pstops
2. layers
3. hack page-imp.mkiv
1. The first solution would be the faster, but after spending a day on
it I gave up, because I have endless issue with cropped pages, paper
dimension not correctly set, and I only scratched the surface. I don't
know if exists some support for psutils (doesn't look so), but I have
the feeling that software is pretty dead.
2. Layers: I'm attaching the code below. Does it seem sensible, or is
there a better way to do it? (I'll create a template from that, and will
loop over every 16 pages with the usual perl hack). It seems to work,
even if visually it looks a bit shifted to right (I can adjust
it manually). [An alternate approach could be just various \hbox, but
maybe the layer solution is better for absolute positioning]
3. page-imp.mkiv would be the best solution (obviously). I've dug a bit
into the code, but I'm in deep waters. I can't understand where the
sequence of the pages is defined. the \pusharrangedpageSCHEMA seems just
to define the position inside the page, not the sequence of the shipped
out page. Also, what are \c_page_marks_nx and \c_page_marks_ny? Any
hint about how this machinery works?
Thanks
Best wishes
% start draft
\definepapersize[carta][width=320mm,height=440mm]
\setuppapersize[carta][carta]
\setuplayout
[topspace=0pt,
backspace=0pt,
header=0pt,
footer=0pt,
margin=0pt,
marking=on,
width=320mm,
height=440mm,
location=middle]
\setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided,location=]
\setuprotate[location=depth,rotation=180]
% \showframe
\starttext
% page one
\definelayer[PageLayer1][position=no]
\setuplayer
[PageLayer]
[preset=topleft,
height=\paperheight,width=\paperwidth]
\setlayer[PageLayer1][x=0mm,y=0mm]{
\rotate{
\externalfigure[libretto.pdf][page=13]
}
}
\setlayer[PageLayer1][x=160mm,y=0mm]{
\rotate{
\externalfigure[libretto.pdf][page=4]
}
}
\setlayer[PageLayer1][x=0mm,y=220mm]{
\externalfigure[libretto.pdf][page=16]
}
\setlayer[PageLayer1][x=160mm,y=220mm]{
\externalfigure[libretto.pdf][page=1]
}
\placelayer[PageLayer1]
%%% page 2
\definelayer[PageLayer2][position=no]
\setuplayer
[PageLayer]
[preset=topleft,
option=test,
height=\paperheight,width=\paperwidth]
\setlayer[PageLayer2][x=0mm,y=0mm]{
\rotate{
\externalfigure[libretto.pdf][page=3]
}
}
\setlayer[PageLayer2][x=160mm,y=0mm]{
\rotate{
\externalfigure[libretto.pdf][page=14]
}
}
\setlayer[PageLayer2][x=0mm,y=220mm]{
\externalfigure[libretto.pdf][page=2]
}
\setlayer[PageLayer2][x=160mm,y=220mm]{
\externalfigure[libretto.pdf][page=15]
}
\placelayer[PageLayer2]
%page 3
\definelayer[PageLayer3][position=no]
\setuplayer
[PageLayer]
[preset=topleft,
option=test,
height=\paperheight,width=\paperwidth]
\setlayer[PageLayer3][x=0mm,y=0mm]{
\rotate{
\externalfigure[libretto.pdf][page=9]
}
}
\setlayer[PageLayer3][x=160mm,y=0mm]{
\rotate{
\externalfigure[libretto.pdf][page=8]
}
}
\setlayer[PageLayer3][x=0mm,y=220mm]{
\externalfigure[libretto.pdf][page=12]
}
\setlayer[PageLayer3][x=160mm,y=220mm]{
\externalfigure[libretto.pdf][page=5]
}
\placelayer[PageLayer3]
% page 4
\definelayer[PageLayer4][position=no]
\setuplayer
[PageLayer]
[preset=topleft,
option=test,
height=\paperheight,width=\paperwidth]
\setlayer[PageLayer4][x=0mm,y=0mm]{
\rotate{
\externalfigure[libretto.pdf][page=7]
}
}
\setlayer[PageLayer4][x=160mm,y=0mm]{
\rotate{
\externalfigure[libretto.pdf][page=10]
}
}
\setlayer[PageLayer4][x=0mm,y=220mm]{
\externalfigure[libretto.pdf][page=6]
}
\setlayer[PageLayer4][x=160mm,y=220mm]{
\externalfigure[libretto.pdf][page=11]
}
\placelayer[PageLayer4]
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] Is it possible to define a custom imposition schema? (sure it is, but how?)
On 29-5-2012 19:06, Marco Pessotto wrote:
3. page-imp.mkiv would be the best solution (obviously). I've dug a bit
into the code, but I'm in deep waters. I can't understand where the
sequence of the pages is defined. the \pusharrangedpageSCHEMA seems just
to define the position inside the page, not the sequence of the shipped
out page. Also, what are \c_page_marks_nx and \c_page_marks_ny? Any
hint about how this machinery works?
You also need a popper as in:
\installpagearrangement 2*8
{\dosetuparrangement{4}{2}{8}{5}{3}%
\pusharrangedpageSIXTEEN\poparrangedpagesAB\relax}
how/what depends on the scheme
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Re: [NTG-context] Is it possible to define a custom imposition schema? (sure it is, but how?)
Hi Marco,
If I understand correctly what you need is a system which is basically based on
booklet-printing but each booklet should be restricted to 16 pages.
In this case you might try
\setuparranging[2*2*4]
This scheme put two pages on the front and two pages on the backside of a sheet
of paper. Then it uses 4 sheets to complete the section.
Willi
On May 29, 2012, at 7:06 PM, Marco Pessotto wrote:
Hello there.
I'd need a custom imposition schema, just like the 2*4*2, but first the
sheets will be folded, then inserted in signatures of 16 pages, and then
finally bound. (They said the machine can fold only one sheet).
I came up with 3 solutions (or 3 hacks, as you wish):
1. psutils/pstops
2. layers
3. hack page-imp.mkiv
1. The first solution would be the faster, but after spending a day on
it I gave up, because I have endless issue with cropped pages, paper
dimension not correctly set, and I only scratched the surface. I don't
know if exists some support for psutils (doesn't look so), but I have
the feeling that software is pretty dead.
2. Layers: I'm attaching the code below. Does it seem sensible, or is
there a better way to do it? (I'll create a template from that, and will
loop over every 16 pages with the usual perl hack). It seems to work,
even if visually it looks a bit shifted to right (I can adjust
it manually). [An alternate approach could be just various \hbox, but
maybe the layer solution is better for absolute positioning]
3. page-imp.mkiv would be the best solution (obviously). I've dug a bit
into the code, but I'm in deep waters. I can't understand where the
sequence of the pages is defined. the \pusharrangedpageSCHEMA seems just
to define the position inside the page, not the sequence of the shipped
out page. Also, what are \c_page_marks_nx and \c_page_marks_ny? Any
hint about how this machinery works?
Thanks
Best wishes
% start draft
\definepapersize[carta][width=320mm,height=440mm]
\setuppapersize[carta][carta]
\setuplayout
[topspace=0pt,
backspace=0pt,
header=0pt,
footer=0pt,
margin=0pt,
marking=on,
width=320mm,
height=440mm,
location=middle]
\setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided,location=]
\setuprotate[location=depth,rotation=180]
% \showframe
\starttext
% page one
\definelayer[PageLayer1][position=no]
\setuplayer
[PageLayer]
[preset=topleft,
height=\paperheight,width=\paperwidth]
\setlayer[PageLayer1][x=0mm,y=0mm]{
\rotate{
\externalfigure[libretto.pdf][page=13]
}
}
\setlayer[PageLayer1][x=160mm,y=0mm]{
\rotate{
\externalfigure[libretto.pdf][page=4]
}
}
\setlayer[PageLayer1][x=0mm,y=220mm]{
\externalfigure[libretto.pdf][page=16]
}
\setlayer[PageLayer1][x=160mm,y=220mm]{
\externalfigure[libretto.pdf][page=1]
}
\placelayer[PageLayer1]
%%% page 2
\definelayer[PageLayer2][position=no]
\setuplayer
[PageLayer]
[preset=topleft,
option=test,
height=\paperheight,width=\paperwidth]
\setlayer[PageLayer2][x=0mm,y=0mm]{
\rotate{
\externalfigure[libretto.pdf][page=3]
}
}
\setlayer[PageLayer2][x=160mm,y=0mm]{
\rotate{
\externalfigure[libretto.pdf][page=14]
}
}
\setlayer[PageLayer2][x=0mm,y=220mm]{
\externalfigure[libretto.pdf][page=2]
}
\setlayer[PageLayer2][x=160mm,y=220mm]{
\externalfigure[libretto.pdf][page=15]
}
\placelayer[PageLayer2]
%page 3
\definelayer[PageLayer3][position=no]
\setuplayer
[PageLayer]
[preset=topleft,
option=test,
height=\paperheight,width=\paperwidth]
\setlayer[PageLayer3][x=0mm,y=0mm]{
\rotate{
\externalfigure[libretto.pdf][page=9]
}
}
\setlayer[PageLayer3][x=160mm,y=0mm]{
\rotate{
\externalfigure[libretto.pdf][page=8]
}
}
\setlayer[PageLayer3][x=0mm,y=220mm]{
\externalfigure[libretto.pdf][page=12]
}
\setlayer[PageLayer3][x=160mm,y=220mm]{
\externalfigure[libretto.pdf][page=5]
}
\placelayer[PageLayer3]
% page 4
\definelayer[PageLayer4][position=no]
\setuplayer
[PageLayer]
[preset=topleft,
option=test,
height=\paperheight,width=\paperwidth]
\setlayer[PageLayer4][x=0mm,y=0mm]{
\rotate{
\externalfigure[libretto.pdf][page=7]
}
}
\setlayer[PageLayer4][x=160mm,y=0mm]{
\rotate{
\externalfigure[libretto.pdf][page=10]
}
}
\setlayer[PageLayer4][x=0mm,y=220mm]{
\externalfigure[libretto.pdf][page=6]
}
\setlayer[PageLayer4][x=160mm,y=220mm]{
\externalfigure[libretto.pdf][page=11]
}
\placelayer[PageLayer4]
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] Is it possible to define a custom imposition schema? (sure it is, but how?)
Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl writes:
On 29-5-2012 19:06, Marco Pessotto wrote:
3. page-imp.mkiv would be the best solution (obviously). I've dug a bit
into the code, but I'm in deep waters. I can't understand where the
sequence of the pages is defined. the \pusharrangedpageSCHEMA seems just
to define the position inside the page, not the sequence of the shipped
out page. Also, what are \c_page_marks_nx and \c_page_marks_ny? Any
hint about how this machinery works?
You also need a popper as in:
\installpagearrangement 2*8
{\dosetuparrangement{4}{2}{8}{5}{3}%
\pusharrangedpageSIXTEEN\poparrangedpagesAB\relax}
how/what depends on the scheme
Hello Hans, thanks for the reply.
I looked at the poppers and I can't understand what they do. I think
I'll go with the layers solution :-) (I'm good at workarounds and
hacking there is an overkill for what I'm trying to do)
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Re: [NTG-context] Is it possible to define a custom imposition schema? (sure it is, but how?)
Willi Egger cont...@boede.nl writes: Hi Marco, If I understand correctly what you need is a system which is basically based on booklet-printing but each booklet should be restricted to 16 pages. In this case you might try \setuparranging[2*2*4] This scheme put two pages on the front and two pages on the backside of a sheet of paper. Then it uses 4 sheets to complete the section. Willi Hello Willi, thanks for your reply. No, the scheme is quite complicated (from 1 to 16) because the pages are first folded, then the two *folded* sheets are inserted one into the other, and then signature is bound and trimmed. So the scheme looks so (R means rotated 180°): 13 R | 4 R --- 16 | 1 3 R | 14 R --- 2| 15 9 R | 8 R --- 12 | 5 7R | 10R -- 6| 11 Yes, that's crazy (if you ask me). As I said, I'll go with the layers and a perl helper, the outcome looks almost fine. Best wishes -- Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Is it possible to define a custom imposition schema? (sure it is, but how?)
To my knowledge the printer will have more hand-work than accepting that e.g. the 2*4*2 or the 2*2*4 scheme is used. - Again, if I understand you correctly, then the folding machine can only do a single fold. So after assembling the section with two folded sheets still a manual fold must be made along the spine. I expect that the assembly is quite unstable if it has to be stitched/sewn. In the first case one can pick two sheets and fold them twice, resulting in a 16 pages section. Such folded sections are stable for stitching/sewing. Even more easy is the 2*2*4 approach, with a single folding over the spine you end up with a section of 16 pages. This kind of section is reasonably stable for stitching/sewing. Willi On May 29, 2012, at 9:00 PM, Marco Pessotto wrote: Willi Egger cont...@boede.nl writes: Hi Marco, If I understand correctly what you need is a system which is basically based on booklet-printing but each booklet should be restricted to 16 pages. In this case you might try \setuparranging[2*2*4] This scheme put two pages on the front and two pages on the backside of a sheet of paper. Then it uses 4 sheets to complete the section. Willi Hello Willi, thanks for your reply. No, the scheme is quite complicated (from 1 to 16) because the pages are first folded, then the two *folded* sheets are inserted one into the other, and then signature is bound and trimmed. So the scheme looks so (R means rotated 180°): 13 R | 4 R --- 16 | 1 3 R | 14 R --- 2| 15 9 R | 8 R --- 12 | 5 7R | 10R -- 6| 11 Yes, that's crazy (if you ask me). As I said, I'll go with the layers and a perl helper, the outcome looks almost fine. Best wishes -- Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Is it possible to define a custom imposition schema? (sure it is, but how?)
Willi Egger cont...@boede.nl writes: To my knowledge the printer will have more hand-work than accepting that e.g. the 2*4*2 or the 2*2*4 scheme is used. - Again, if I understand you correctly, then the folding machine can only do a single fold. So after assembling the section with two folded sheets still a manual fold must be made along the spine. I expect that the assembly is quite unstable if it has to be stitched/sewn. In the first case one can pick two sheets and fold them twice, resulting in a 16 pages section. Such folded sections are stable for stitching/sewing. Even more easy is the 2*2*4 approach, with a single folding over the spine you end up with a section of 16 pages. This kind of section is reasonably stable for stitching/sewing. Hi Willi, thanks for your truly inshightful reply. I'll discuss this with the people doing the printing/folding/binding, because, as you noted, something here doesn't feel right. Thanks again Best wishes -- Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Spacing for {\cal P} in XITS
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 05:34:47PM +0300, Janne Junnila wrote:
Doesn't seem to be only macs, I'm on Linux using the latest beta. The
PDF I get is like the one Michael sent earlier. I tried other
calligraphic letters with the vrules, and it seems that some of them
have similar issues, just not as striking as with P.
It was a bit buzzling, but I think I found it, it seems the lines:
italics = {
[xits-math] = italics,
},
in xits-math.lfg (`mtxrun --find-file` to locate it), prevents the
application of italic correction for some reason, removing it resolves
the issue. I didn't experience it because I had a different
xits-math.lfg in my ~/texmf tree.
Hans, what those lines are supposed to do?
Regards,
Khaled
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Re: [NTG-context] Where is the documentation of the letter module
is there anyone else who knows where the current correspondence docu
resides? I tried again to locate it but to no avail.
There is some guidance about what's new in these messages:
http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2012/064695.html
http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2012/065039.html
Michael, thanks a lot. These were in fact the missing links! With the help of
the comments in the thread above and looking into the sources I was able to
reproduce most of my old letter template. However, I'm struggling to get the
enclosures into an itemized list. This used to work with the old letter module
but now fails:
\startletter[enclosure={A\\B\\C}, ...] -- encl: AcrlfBcrlfC
In http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2012/064721.html Wolfgang proposed
\startletter[enclosure={list:one,two,three}, ...] to get an itemized list. But
this does not seem to be implemented yet. How would I get this right?
Wolfgang, I believe I found a bug that introduces some extra space in the
backaddress: fromname, extra space, fromaddress. Here is the fix:
--- a/texmf-modules/tex/context/third/letter/base/s-cor-01.mkvi
+++ b/texmf-modules/tex/context/third/letter/base/s-cor-01.mkvi
@@ -297,7 +297,7 @@
\defineletterelement[\v!layer][\v!backaddress][\s!default]
{\def\\{\correspondencelayerparameter\c!separator}%
\correspondenceparameter\c!fromname
- \doifsomething{\correspondenceparameter\c!fromaddress}\\
+ \doifsomething{\correspondenceparameter\c!fromaddress}\\%
\correspondenceparameter\c!fromaddress}
\defineletterelement[\v!layer][\v!backaddress][\v!auto]
Cheers,
Florian
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[NTG-context] A bibliography difficulty
In my list of references, I can't get the author or title (of journal
article) to print. In my .tex file, I have the following lines:
\usemodule[bib]
\setuppublications[alternative=ams,refcommand=num,numbering=yes]
and in my .bbl file the (so far) only reference is:
\startpublication[k=birn06,
t=article,
a=D.~Birnbache,
y=1999]
\author{Dieter}{}{Birnbache}
\title{The Socratic method in teaching medical ethics: Potentials and
limitations}
\pubyear{1999}
\journal{Medicine, Health Care and Philosophy}
\volume{2}
\issue{3}
\pages{219-224}
\stoppublication
However, when I typeset the file, the reference list consists of
[1] , Medicine, Health Care and Philosophy 2, 219 (1999).
I'm a little confused about all the variables, commands and parameters. So
- first, what am I doing wrong? Second, are there somewhere out there some
example files of bibliography usage (I learn best by seeing what other
people have done, and adapting that to my own ends)? Third: can I include
the references in the body of the .tex file (as you can do with LaTeX and
the thebibliography environment)?
Thanks,
Alasdair
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