Mailman already has settings for this, but one is advised not to use the 
‘munging’ option.

My guess is that if you leave the change of body in place, participants that 
are sending through mail servers that support SPF will fail (because of the 
resend by the list) and support for DKIM will fail (because of the changed body)

You will still receive the 'list-forwarded’ messages from senders who do not 
use DMARC, you will start missing those that do. It is unlikely that you will 
suddenly stop receiving all messages from the list (e.g. mine will go through 
as I haven’t yet turned DMARC fully on, but as soon as I do, I will be unable 
to send messages via this list to those at the receiving end that do DMARC 
checking, and that holds for more and more users.).

The sender’s email manager will also get unnecessary reports of the list server 
illegally sending messages on their behalf.

Most list these days that I am on already have removed the footer, and leave 
the Subject: line alone. Sorting can be done on other headers than Subject.

Using dmarc_moderation_action (mailman setting) means that you start to munge 
headers etc, which is not optimal:

https://begriffs.com/posts/2018-09-18-dmarc-mailing-list.html 
<https://begriffs.com/posts/2018-09-18-dmarc-mailing-list.html> writes about 
munging:
However this is a poor use of email, since it’s misrepresenting who originated 
the message. Also email clients often have a degraded interface with respect to 
the Reply-To header. It’s usually not visible in the message list, not used for 
sorting, and not added to the address book.

But whatever you guys do, make sure you are DMARC-proof to prevent running into 
these issues later on. Either munge, or remove the footer and the change of 
Subject (I would prefer the latter).

Gerben Wierda
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Mastering ArchiMate <https://ea.rna.nl/the-book-edition-iii/>
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> On 16 Sep 2019, at 22:46, Henri Menke <henrime...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I think this is better reported to Mailman.  I'm not sure to what extent list
> administrators have control over DKIM settings.
> https://gitlab.com/groups/mailman/-/issues
> 
> On 9/17/19 1:34 AM, Gerben Wierda wrote:
>> In addition: Lists should keep the From address, the Subject, and the 
>> Message totally unchanged. They should add a Sender header to indicate their 
>> relay role, and set at least the List-Id and List-Unsubscribe headers for 
>> mailbox rules and subscription management.
>> 
>> 
>> Gerben Wierda
>> Chess and the Art of Enterprise Architecture <https://ea.rna.nl/the-book/>
>> Mastering ArchiMate <https://ea.rna.nl/the-book-edition-iii/>
>> Architecture for Real Enterprises 
>> <https://www.infoworld.com/blog/architecture-for-real-enterprises/> at 
>> InfoWorld
>> On Slippery Ice <https://eapj.org/on-slippery-ice/> at EAPJ
>> 
>>> On 16 Sep 2019, at 15:21, Gerben Wierda <gerben.wie...@rna.nl 
>>> <mailto:gerben.wie...@rna.nl>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The footer that is added to each message in this list is not DKIM (and thus 
>>> DMARC) compatible. DKIM requires the ability to create a signature on a set 
>>> of headers and the body. By changing the body, the DKIM signature fails and 
>>> the resulting messages sent by the mail list may in the future be blocked 
>>> by  more and more mail servers.
>>> 
>>> Gerben Wierda
>>> Chess and the Art of Enterprise Architecture <https://ea.rna.nl/the-book/>
>>> Mastering ArchiMate <https://ea.rna.nl/the-book-edition-iii/>
>>> Architecture for Real Enterprises 
>>> <https://www.infoworld.com/blog/architecture-for-real-enterprises/> at 
>>> InfoWorld
>>> On Slippery Ice <https://eapj.org/on-slippery-ice/> at EAPJ
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