Re: [NTG-context] Options for \column (was: Columns with non-equal width; nested columns)

2019-09-25 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm

> Am 2019-09-25 um 22:29 schrieb Procházka Lukáš Ing. :
> 
> NB: I've noticed many changes on wiki 
> (https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Special:RecentChanges) in last days issued by 
> you, Hraban, so thank you for maintaining wiki.

You’re welcome!
I’m working on my ConTeXt book as well as two books typeset with ConTeXt, so I 
use the wiki a lot. If I see something’s wrong or missing, I change that – if 
it’s not too much work, that is: Therefore, columns are a big todo.

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Re: [NTG-context] poem as a sidefloat

2019-09-25 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm

> Am 2019-09-25 um 22:10 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster 
> :
> 
> Henning Hraban Ramm schrieb am 25.09.2019 um 21:37:
>> The following works, except:
>> - There’s too much space (2 lines?) within the frame before the poem.
> Use the framedtext environment.

Ah, I didn’t expect \startframedtext to behave differently than \framedtext.

>> - I’d like to insert some space below the float, spaceafter doesn’t work.
> You nee sidespacebefore/after but you can only set it for *all* floats.

Not good, but I’ll just setup my special case in a group.

Thank you again & all the best,
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[NTG-context] Options for \column (was: Columns with non-equal width; nested columns)

2019-09-25 Thread Procházka Lukáš Ing .

Hello,

I extended the "Description" section at 
https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/column#Description by an incomplete list of 
options.


Please try it and report back, i.e. document it in the wiki. Someone has to do 
it…


The only effect I can see is when I use \column (= go to next column) and 
\column[last] (go to last column);
just guessing what other options mean;
and no idea what [3*5] does.


I only ever used plain \column.


So did I. And I tried \column[last] this time, too.

So - anyone with better knowledge to fill meaning of the unknown \column 
options?

BTW, what effect has using \column more times than \startcolumns[n=...] 
predicts?

Best,

Lukas

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Re: [NTG-context] poem as a sidefloat

2019-09-25 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Henning Hraban Ramm schrieb am 25.09.2019 um 21:37:

The following works, except:
- There’s too much space (2 lines?) within the frame before the poem.

Use the framedtext environment.

- I’d like to insert some space below the float, spaceafter doesn’t work.

You nee sidespacebefore/after but you can only set it for *all* floats.

\definefloat [poem]

% \setupfloat
%   [sidespacebefore=medium]

\setupfloat
  [poem]
  [background=color,
   backgroundcolor=cyan]

\setupcaption
  [poem]
  [number=none]

\starttext

\dorecurse{2}{\samplefile{knuth}}

\startplacefloat [poem] [location=left]
  \startframedtext [frame=off,width=fit,offset=0.25ex]
    \startlines [style=mono]
    lichtung

    manche meinen
    lechts und rinks
    kann man nicht
    velwechsern.
    werch ein illtum!
    \wordright{ernst jandl}
    \stoplines
  \stopframedtext
\stopplacefloat

\dorecurse{2}{\samplefile{knuth}}

\stoptext

Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] poem as a sidefloat

2019-09-25 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm

> Am 2019-09-25 um 20:45 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster 
> :
> 
> Henning Hraban Ramm schrieb am 25.09.2019 um 19:35:
>> Hi, I’d like to have a small poem beside my text.
>> My approach doesn’t work, with or without \framed:
>> 
>> Since I need this only once, I thought I don’t need to define or setup my 
>> own float.
>> 
>> \setupfloat inherits from \setupframed, but the parameters width, style and 
>> background(color) don’t work.
>> Aren’t they supposed to work in \startplacefloat?
>> 
>> How can I suppress the caption? ("none" is supposed to work with 
>> \placefloat, but at least doesn’t in \startplacefloat)
> The first argument of \startplacefloat takes the name of the float instance, 
> e.g. figure (\startplacefloat [figure]) and the second argument a limited 
> list of keys. All other options like the background color have to be set with 
> \setupfloat and \setupcation.
>> With or without framed, vbox and lines didn’t change much. (Of course 
>> \framed adds a frame, but the text isn’t within).
> You have to put the poem in a framed or framedtext environment with the 
> setting width=fit. There is no way to to do this with the float environment 
> alone.

Thank you!
The following works, except:
- There’s too much space (2 lines?) within the frame before the poem.
- I’d like to insert some space below the float, spaceafter doesn’t work.


\definefloat[poem]
\setupfloat[poem][
  location=left, % doesn’t work
  width=0.33\textwidth,
  background=color,backgroundcolor=cyan,
  spaceafter=1em, % doesn’t work
]
\setupcaption[poem][
  location=none,
  number=no,
]

\starttext

\dorecurse{2}{\input knuth}
\startplacefloat[poem][location=left,]%
\framedtext[
  frame=off,
  width=fit,
  style=\tt,
  %background=color,backgroundcolor=yellow,
]{%
\startlines%
lichtung

manche meinen
lechts und rinks
kann man nicht
velwechsern.
werch ein illtum!
\wordright{ernst jandl}
\stoplines
}
\stopplacefloat
\dorecurse{2}{\input knuth}

\stoptext



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Re: [NTG-context] poem as a sidefloat

2019-09-25 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Henning Hraban Ramm schrieb am 25.09.2019 um 19:35:

Hi, I’d like to have a small poem beside my text.
My approach doesn’t work, with or without \framed:

Since I need this only once, I thought I don’t need to define or setup my own 
float.

\setupfloat inherits from \setupframed, but the parameters width, style and 
background(color) don’t work.
Aren’t they supposed to work in \startplacefloat?

How can I suppress the caption? ("none" is supposed to work with \placefloat, 
but at least doesn’t in \startplacefloat)
The first argument of \startplacefloat takes the name of the float 
instance, e.g. figure (\startplacefloat [figure]) and the second 
argument a limited list of keys. All other options like the background 
color have to be set with \setupfloat and \setupcation.

With or without framed, vbox and lines didn’t change much. (Of course \framed 
adds a frame, but the text isn’t within).
You have to put the poem in a framed or framedtext environment with the 
setting width=fit. There is no way to to do this with the float 
environment alone.


Wolfgang

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[NTG-context] poem as a sidefloat

2019-09-25 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Hi, I’d like to have a small poem beside my text.
My approach doesn’t work, with or without \framed:

Since I need this only once, I thought I don’t need to define or setup my own 
float.

\setupfloat inherits from \setupframed, but the parameters width, style and 
background(color) don’t work.
Aren’t they supposed to work in \startplacefloat?

How can I suppress the caption? ("none" is supposed to work with \placefloat, 
but at least doesn’t in \startplacefloat)

With or without framed, vbox and lines didn’t change much. (Of course \framed 
adds a frame, but the text isn’t within).


\starttext

\dorecurse{2}{\input knuth}

\startplacefloat[
  title=none, % doesn’t work
  numbering=no, % wrong
  location=left,
  width=.33\textwidth, % doesn’t work
  style=\tt, % doesn’t work
  background=color,backgroundcolor=cyan, % doesn’t work
]%
%\framed[
%  width=.33\textwidth,
%  style=\tt,
%  background=color,backgroundcolor=yellow,
%]{\vbox{%
\startlines
lichtung

manche meinen
lechts und rinks
kann man nicht
velwechsern.
werch ein illtum!
\wordright{ernst jandl}
\stoplines
%}}
\stopplacefloat

\dorecurse{2}{\input knuth}

\stoptext



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Re: [NTG-context] This mailing list is not DKIM (DMARC) compatible

2019-09-25 Thread Taco Hoekwater


> On 16 Sep 2019, at 15:34, Gerben Wierda  wrote:
> 
> In addition: Lists should keep the From address, the Subject, and the Message 
> totally unchanged. They should add a Sender header to indicate their relay 
> role, and set at least the List-Id and List-Unsubscribe headers for mailbox 
> rules and subscription management.

Well, we leave From alone, add Sender, List-Id, and List-Unsubscribe.

That leaves Subject and Body, but I agree with Hraban in that I like both those 
features. I could turn
munging on and see what happens?

Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] Columns with non-equal width; nested columns

2019-09-25 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm

> Am 2019-09-25 um 13:48 schrieb Procházka Lukáš Ing. :
> 
> BTW, following "columnsets.pdf", \column has many options, unfortunately not 
> so clear for me; so:
> 
> \column-> go to next column?
> \column[]  -> = \column?
> \column[yes]   -> = \column?
> \column[page]  -> go to first column on the new page?
> \column[3] -> go to 3rd column - or skip 3 columns?
> \column[first] -> go to first column, also go to next page if currently on 
> 2+th column?
> \column[last]  -> go to last column?
> \column[3*5]   -> ???
> 
> Any explanation would be nice.

Please try it and report back, i.e. document it in the wiki. Someone has to do 
it…

I only ever used plain \column.

Maybe the source helps further: 
https://source.contextgarden.net/tex/context/base/mkiv/page-cst.mkiv



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Re: [NTG-context] Columns with non-equal width; nested columns

2019-09-25 Thread Procházka Lukáš Ing .

Hello Hraban,

On Wed, 25 Sep 2019 13:07:50 +0200, Henning Hraban Ramm  wrote:


If your ConTeXt installation is quite recent, you have 
texmf-context/doc/context/documents/general/manuals/pagecolumns.pdf
This is quite new and I don’t know how usable.


useful, thanks.


(Hint for everyone: the "manuals" directory is a tresure trove!)


(I can confirm!)

BTW, following "columnsets.pdf", \column has many options, unfortunately not so 
clear for me; so:

\column-> go to next column?
\column[]  -> = \column?
\column[yes]   -> = \column?
\column[page]  -> go to first column on the new page?
\column[3] -> go to 3rd column - or skip 3 columns?
\column[first] -> go to first column, also go to next page if currently on 2+th 
column?
\column[last]  -> go to last column?
\column[3*5]   -> ???

Any explanation would be nice.

Best regards,

Lukas



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Re: [NTG-context] Columns with non-equal width; nested columns

2019-09-25 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 2019-09-25 um 11:39 schrieb Procházka Lukáš Ing. :
> 
> - Altough I found some wiki material about column sets (e.g. 
> https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setupcolumnsetstart or columns.pdf), I 
> found nothing about "page columns" - can you give me a link?

Sorry, the wiki is very outdated and confusing in this regard.
I’m planning to research and document columns better (my talk in Bassenge 
covered only a few aspects of old/new columns and columnsets), but have a lot 
of other things at hand…

If your ConTeXt installation is quite recent, you have 
texmf-context/doc/context/documents/general/manuals/pagecolumns.pdf
This is quite new and I don’t know how usable.

(Hint for everyone: the "manuals" directory is a tresure trove!)

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Re: [NTG-context] Columns with non-equal width; nested columns

2019-09-25 Thread Procházka Lukáš Ing .

Hello,

thanks for reaction - so I'm starting with column sets (@Wolfgang: text from 
column 2a may flow into 2b).

My code so far:


\definecolumnset[example][n=3,balancing=no]
\definecolumnsetspan[wide][n=2,background=contrast]

\setupexternalfigures[location=default]

\setuphead[subsubsubsubsubject][style=bold]

\starttext
  \startcolumnset[example]
\startcolumnsetspan[wide]
  \externalfigure[hacker][width=95mm]
\stopcolumnsetspan

\dorecurse{2}{
  \subsubsubsubsubject{Sub}
  \input ward
}

\column
\column

\darkred
  \starttabulate[|rB|lp|]
\NC a
  \NC
AA
\NC\NR
\NC aa
  \NC
AAA
\NC\NR
  \stoptabulate
  \stopcolumnset
\stoptext


produces overlapping lines at the end of the first column.
- How to avoid this?

- Being in a columnset environment, is there a way to tell context "go to third 
column" (regardless in which column I am currently typing)?

- Altough I found some wiki material about column sets (e.g. 
https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setupcolumnsetstart or columns.pdf), I found 
nothing about "page columns" - can you give me a link?

- All wiki examples use "1" at the place of "nesting level":

"
\setupcolumnsetstart[...][...][...][...]
[...]   columnset name
[...]   nesting level
[...]   number of individual column in columnset
[...]   starting line (1 = start at the top)

...

\setupcolumnsetstart[three][1][1][15]
^
| -- HERE
"

Is there a sample which would use an other number? - I'm asking as I guess my 
task has to do with nested column sets.

Best regards,

Lukas


On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 18:47:18 +0200, Henning Hraban Ramm  wrote:




Am 2019-09-24 um 15:44 schrieb Procházka Lukáš Ing. :

I need to get columns like this:


| | 1b |
| 1a  ||
+-+|
|  2a  |  2b  ||
|  |  ||

I tried the following:


\starttext
 \startcolumns[n=2] % How to tell that ratio between columns should be 2:1?
   \input knuth % Be 1a


Such a layout is not possible with simple old columns.
Try columnsets or page columns (see manuals of the same name).


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