Re: [NTG-context] PDF viewer poll
> On 13 Oct 2019, at 12:43, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: > > Hi, I’d like to update my list of (usable!) PDF viewers. > Which one do you use? (Current version?) There is TeXShop that comes with the Mac TeX Live distribution. It can be set up to compile ConTeXt. > What are its pros and cons? You might let us know, if you so will. :-) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] PDF viewer poll
Hello, I am using SumatraPDF at school (Windows). Lightweight, opens where it was closed last time (very convenient when you've got presentations up to 100 slides or more that takes several weeks to be discussed). Self actualizes when the ConTeXt source is compiled. At home (OpenBSD), mupdf and zathura. Rather for ratpoisons or Vim fans (keyboard-driven). Regards, Damien Thiriet ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] PDF viewer poll
- Okular v1.8.1 on my linux machines. - SumatraPDF on windows at work (that never use for my ConTeXT related work) Le dim. 13 oct. 2019 à 17:49, Pablo Rodriguez a écrit : > On 10/13/19 12:43 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: > > Hi, I’d like to update my list of (usable!) PDF viewers. > > 1. Evince-3.28.5, MuPDF-1.16.1 and (sometimes) acroread-9.5.5 on Linux. > 2. SumatraPDF, MuPDF and Acrobat Reader DC on Windows. > > From MuPDF, I use mupdf-gl (just in case it might be relevant). > > They are zero cost programs. Except Acrobat, all of them are FLOSS. > > SumatraPDF is Windows only. > mupdf runs on Linux, Windows, Android and iOS. > > mupdf has an English-only help. All the other programs have localized > interfaces. > > Evince can handle comments and attachments. > mupdf can handle comments, but not attachments. > Sumatra cannot handle comments, but it does handle embedded files. > > Evince can handle forms without JS (support is on the way). > mupdf can handle forms with JS (but I would say that JS support in MuPDF > is incomplete). > SumatraPDF cannot handle forms. > > I don’t use SyncTeX myself, so I don’t know whether it is supported or not. > > Evince and SumatraPDF reload modified documents automatically. > mupdf-gl allows document reloading with the 'r' key. > > My basic features are bookmarks, links and attachments. Evince and > SumatraPDF can handle all of them. mupdf-gl cannot handle attachments > and partial implementation for bookmarks. > > Just in case it helps, > > Pablo > -- > http://www.ousia.tk > > ___ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > > ___ > -- Dr YAHYAOUI Mohamed Kaddour, cardiologue . ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] PDF viewer poll
On 10/13/19 12:43 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: > Hi, I’d like to update my list of (usable!) PDF viewers. 1. Evince-3.28.5, MuPDF-1.16.1 and (sometimes) acroread-9.5.5 on Linux. 2. SumatraPDF, MuPDF and Acrobat Reader DC on Windows. From MuPDF, I use mupdf-gl (just in case it might be relevant). They are zero cost programs. Except Acrobat, all of them are FLOSS. SumatraPDF is Windows only. mupdf runs on Linux, Windows, Android and iOS. mupdf has an English-only help. All the other programs have localized interfaces. Evince can handle comments and attachments. mupdf can handle comments, but not attachments. Sumatra cannot handle comments, but it does handle embedded files. Evince can handle forms without JS (support is on the way). mupdf can handle forms with JS (but I would say that JS support in MuPDF is incomplete). SumatraPDF cannot handle forms. I don’t use SyncTeX myself, so I don’t know whether it is supported or not. Evince and SumatraPDF reload modified documents automatically. mupdf-gl allows document reloading with the 'r' key. My basic features are bookmarks, links and attachments. Evince and SumatraPDF can handle all of them. mupdf-gl cannot handle attachments and partial implementation for bookmarks. Just in case it helps, Pablo -- http://www.ousia.tk ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] PDF viewer poll
On 10/13/19 5:26 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: > [...] > xpdf I found a bit too basic for my taste. And it’s also based on > poppler nowadays, like Qpdfview and several others. Hi Hraban, just for the record, poppler is a fork of xpdf-3 (from https://poppler.freedesktop.org/). Pablo -- http://www.ousia.tk ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] PDF viewer poll
> Am 2019-10-13 um 16:50 schrieb Rudolf Bahr : > > Hello Hraban, > > I'm working with only 2 pdf-viewers, "okular" and "xpdf". My main-viewer is > "okular", but > at the moment it doesn't work with my context-pdfs, I don't know why, but I > don't care. > Then it's good to have "xpdf" which is simpler than "okular" but works > especially in > this case. And before sending pdf-data to a printing-house I use "qpdf" not > to view, > but to transform my pdf files as rotate them to get them binded at a book > side not > offered by printers. > > All 3 programs are open source on Linux and because I'm updating regularly my > OS, those > programs are regularly updated too. > JS? Form support? PDF/X/A/UA? Convert colors? SyncTex? Handle comments? I'm > not using > any of these. To some of them I can't say anything, because I dont't even > know, what they > are good for. So, I'm sorry not to be able to say more to those possible > properties > of my used programs: Thank you! xpdf I found a bit too basic for my taste. And it’s also based on poppler nowadays, like Qpdfview and several others. Of course there are a lot of features that one could compare, e.g. presentation control or printing options. Since I regularly need to send pdfs to the printers, I need to check if they will print correctly. That’s what PDF/X is for. Often it’s easier to convert colors in the PDF instead of finding and converting the elements separately. (I don’t convert RGB to CMYK, printshop workflows can handle this, but e.g. ensuring everything’s grayscale can save costs in digital printing. And sometimes I get logos in spot colors...) I never used SyncTeX myself, but I guess it would make my correction workflows easier. And I usually get corrections as comments in PDFs. Forms support I usually need only to fill in some official forms, but I got one customer with a ConTeXt-set form of >30 pages… And that’s one area where ConTeXt is a bit buggy (e.g. radiobuttons don’t work), and I’d like to debug that. I was only asking for "current version", because some folks still use acroread on Linux, and that was last updated in 2005 (I think), and some other readers aren’t updated any more, e.g. Nitro. Greetlings, Hraban --- https://www.fiee.net http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.dreiviertelhaus.de GPG Key ID 1C9B22FD ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] PDF viewer poll
On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 12:43:14PM +0200, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: > Hi, I’d like to update my list of (usable!) PDF viewers. > Which one do you use? (Current version?) > What are its pros and cons? > Is it free (open source, freeware)? > Does it work on Win/Lin/Mac? > Does it have a localized interface? (I don’t care, but I work with people who > don’t understand a lot of English.) > Can it handle comments, attachments? > Can it handle forms with or without JavaScript? > Does it support SyncTeX? (Who uses that anyway?) > Does it update changed PDFs on its own (or does it even block overwriting)? > Which other features are essential for your choice? > > E.g. I’m working with: > - Preview.app (Mac) > Default on MacOS, fast & easy. No JS, bad forms support, updates > "sometimes". Usable as a previewer, not as a PDF toolbox. > - Adobe Reader DC (Mac) > I use it only to check forms or as reference. Unusable GUI. > - Acrobat Pro 9 (Mac) > Was my workhorse, but works on MacOS Mojave only partly; slow & > crash-prone; no updates. Can check PDF/X<4 and convert colors. > - PDF Studio Pro (on Mac & Linux) > Bought to replace AcroPro9; JS support broken; slow startup; no updates. > Can check PDF/X, A, UA and convert colors. > Ok with forms, but doesn’t support LiveCycle forms (deprecated, but used by > German boards). > - Qpdfview (Linux) > Fast and easy; reliably updates. > - PDF.js (Browser or Atom) > Is said to do SyncTeX (never tried). Easy, but slow. Updates. > > > Curious: Hraban Hello Hraban, I'm working with only 2 pdf-viewers, "okular" and "xpdf". My main-viewer is "okular", but at the moment it doesn't work with my context-pdfs, I don't know why, but I don't care. Then it's good to have "xpdf" which is simpler than "okular" but works especially in this case. And before sending pdf-data to a printing-house I use "qpdf" not to view, but to transform my pdf files as rotate them to get them binded at a book side not offered by printers. All 3 programs are open source on Linux and because I'm updating regularly my OS, those programs are regularly updated too. JS? Form support? PDF/X/A/UA? Convert colors? SyncTex? Handle comments? I'm not using any of these. To some of them I can't say anything, because I dont't even know, what they are good for. So, I'm sorry not to be able to say more to those possible properties of my used programs: "okular": version: 1.6.3 Manual in German "xpdf": version: 3.04 Manual in English "qpdf": version: 8.4.0 Manual in English Best wishes, Rudolf ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] PDF viewer poll
Hi, I’d like to update my list of (usable!) PDF viewers. Which one do you use? (Current version?) What are its pros and cons? Is it free (open source, freeware)? Does it work on Win/Lin/Mac? Does it have a localized interface? (I don’t care, but I work with people who don’t understand a lot of English.) Can it handle comments, attachments? Can it handle forms with or without JavaScript? Does it support SyncTeX? (Who uses that anyway?) Does it update changed PDFs on its own (or does it even block overwriting)? Which other features are essential for your choice? E.g. I’m working with: - Preview.app (Mac) Default on MacOS, fast & easy. No JS, bad forms support, updates "sometimes". Usable as a previewer, not as a PDF toolbox. - Adobe Reader DC (Mac) I use it only to check forms or as reference. Unusable GUI. - Acrobat Pro 9 (Mac) Was my workhorse, but works on MacOS Mojave only partly; slow & crash-prone; no updates. Can check PDF/X<4 and convert colors. - PDF Studio Pro (on Mac & Linux) Bought to replace AcroPro9; JS support broken; slow startup; no updates. Can check PDF/X, A, UA and convert colors. Ok with forms, but doesn’t support LiveCycle forms (deprecated, but used by German boards). - Qpdfview (Linux) Fast and easy; reliably updates. - PDF.js (Browser or Atom) Is said to do SyncTeX (never tried). Easy, but slow. Updates. Curious: Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
