Re: [NTG-context] LMTX: different output if dots are used in the file name

2021-07-07 Thread Marco Patzer
On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 12:25:29 -0600
Alan Braslau  wrote:

Thank you for your reply.

> Windows, I believe, does not take kindly to filenames containing
> multiple dots.

Disclaimer: I don't use Windows, I know nothing about Windows. But I
downloaded a Windows 10 VM and fired it up, installed LMTX, created
a file (in the default editor):

  # file name: 10.10.10.tex
  \starttext
  foo
  \stoptext

Then I ran

install.bat
setpath.bat

# LMTX
context 10.10.10.tex
  → 10.10.pdf
  → 10.log

# MkIV
context --luatex 10.10.10.tex
  → 10.10.10.pdf
  → 10.10.10.log

So I can't confirm your findings. MkIV works exactly the same on a
vanilla Windows 10 VM than it does on a Unix system and produces
correct output files with multiple dots. No issues there.

> Therefore, Hans never uses such filenames and does not expect them,
> either, so I am not surprised that this yields unpredictable results.
> 
> An unfortunate side-effect of dealing with Windows.

My short test above seems to suggest that it's not an OS issue since
Unix and Windows behave exactly the same. MkIV (which seems to work
fine on Windows) as well as the LMTX issue. But maybe I did
something wrong there, in that case please let me know.

And Hans said “I'll look at it” a while back, so I just wanted to
send a reminder.

Since it worked in MkIV it looks like a regression. I mean it used
to work. Several of my projects rely on source files with multiple
dots. I know it's not common to have multiple dots, but I hope
there's chance it might be fixed.

But maybe Hans can chime in and clarify.

Marco
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Re: [NTG-context] LMTX: different output if dots are used in the file name

2021-07-07 Thread Ulrike Fischer
Am Wed, 7 Jul 2021 12:25:29 -0600 schrieb Alan Braslau:

> Windows, I believe, does not take kindly to filenames containing
> multiple dots.
> 
> Therefore, Hans never uses such filenames and does not expect them,
> either, so I am not surprised that this yields unpredictable results.
> 
> An unfortunate side-effect of dealing with Windows.

Sorry but this is nonsense. I have seen many files with lots of dots
in windows and it works fine.

I wouldn't do it in tex, but not because of the OS but because until
a few years you could run into problems with some tex applications
or macros which didn't expect many dots.  




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Re: [NTG-context] LMTX: different output if dots are used in the file name

2021-07-07 Thread Alan Braslau
Windows, I believe, does not take kindly to filenames containing
multiple dots.

Therefore, Hans never uses such filenames and does not expect them,
either, so I am not surprised that this yields unpredictable results.

An unfortunate side-effect of dealing with Windows.

Alan


On Tue, 6 Jul 2021 20:08:22 -0400
"T. Kurt Bond"  wrote:

> This is something that has caused me problems in the past, too.
> 
> On Tue, Jul 6, 2021 at 4:51 PM Marco Patzer 
> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 28 May 2020 18:18:51 +0200
> > Hans Hagen  wrote:
> >  
> > > > LMTX:
> > > > 10.10.10.tex → 10.10 (not even a PDF suffix)
> > > > 10.10.11.tex → 10.10 (file 10.10 is over-written)
> > > > 11.10.11.tex → 11.10 (no suffix)  
> >
> > I've checked again with 2021.07.06 18:49 LMTX
> >
> >   10.10.10.tex → 10.10.pdf + 10.log
> >   10.10.11.tex → 10.10.pdf (file 10.10.pdf and 10.log are
> > over-written) 11.10.11.tex → 11.10.pdf
> >  
> > > > MkIV is way more predictable and consistent in that regard.  
> > > I'll look at it but not today ... first I need to play with some
> > > other (neat) stuff and run tests.  
> >
> > A gentle reminder.
> >
> > As by my tests, something has changed in the last months, but the
> > behaviour is still weird (e.g. log files differ from pdf file or
> > 10.10.10.tex results in 10.10.pdf).
> >
> > Is there a chance you can look at that at some point?
> >
> > Marco
> >
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[NTG-context] LMTX crashes with source

2021-07-07 Thread Pablo Rodriguez
Dear list,

I have the following source:

  \definefontfamily [malayalam] [rm] [RIT Rachana]
  %~ [features=malayalam-two]
  \setupbodyfont [malayalam]
  \starttext
  \startTEXpage
  \tf അദ്ധ്യായം\\
  \em അദ്ധ്യായം\\
  \em\bf അദ്ധ്യായം\\
  \em അദ്ധ്യായം
  \stopTEXpage
  \stoptext

Using latest from 2021.07.06 18:49 and the following fonts:

  http://rachana.org.in/downloads/RIT-Rachana-Regular.ttf
  http://rachana.org.in/downloads/RIT-Rachana-Italic.ttf
  http://rachana.org.in/downloads/RIT-Rachana-Bold.ttf
  http://rachana.org.in/downloads/RIT-Rachana-BoldItalic.ttf

I get a crash when using LMTX, but not with MkIV (in both Windows and
Linux). I’m afraid it might be a bug.

Could anyone confirm the issue?

Many thanks for your help,

Pablo
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Re: [NTG-context] Proper ligatures in Malayalam

2021-07-07 Thread Pablo Rodriguez
On 7/6/21 7:44 PM, Ajith R wrote:
> Hi Pablo,
>
> Just to be sure that you have the correct ligature, will you please
> share a picture or pdf of the rendered text?

Hi Ajith,

sure, the output from the following source:

  \setupinteraction[state=start]
  \setupinteractionscreen[option=max]
  \definefontfamily [malayalam] [rm] [RIT Rachana]
  [features=malayalam-two]
  \setupbodyfont [malayalam]
  \setupattachments[method=hidden]
  \attachment[file=\jobname.tex]
  \attachment[file=http://rachana.org.in/downloads/RIT-Rachana-Regular.ttf]
  \attachment[file=http://rachana.org.in/downloads/RIT-Rachana-Italic.ttf]
  \attachment[file=http://rachana.org.in/downloads/RIT-Rachana-Bold.ttf]

\attachment[file=http://rachana.org.in/downloads/RIT-Rachana-BoldItalic.ttf]
  \starttext
  \startTEXpage[offset=1ex]
  \tf അദ്ധ്യായം\\
  \em അദ്ധ്യായം\\
  \em\bf അദ്ധ്യായം\\
  \em അദ്ധ്യായം
  \stopTEXpage
  \stoptext

is located at https://pdf.ousia.tk/ml.pdf.

I hope it helps,

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Re: [NTG-context] Proper ligatures in Malayalam

2021-07-07 Thread Pablo Rodriguez
On 7/7/21 8:57 AM, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Jul 2021, Ajith R wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am running Debian 10 and context --version returns
>> [...]
>> mtx-context | current version: 2018.04.04 00:51
>
> This is more than 3 years old! You will need to update. Not sure if
> there is a debian package for LMTX. You can always install it in
> parallel to the system installation by following the instructions on the
> wiki.

Hi Ajith,

as Aditya mentioned, this version is too old (maybe it even lacks the
mlm2 script).

This old version won’t be fixed now (I’m afraid).

I hope it helps,

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