Re: [NTG-context] Strange new behaviour of the mailing list
> Am 31.07.2021 um 21:19 schrieb Bruce Horrocks : > > On 31 Jul 2021, at 14:56, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context > wrote: >> >> Ah, I didn’t recognize you mean this. >> >> Since the mail goes through the mailing list software, the sender must not >> be the original sender any more – ntg.nl is not allowed to send emails for a >> different domain. Many securely configured mail servers reject “faked” >> sender addresses, as they should. Look up DANE etc. > > That's all well and good but it obscures the sender in your mail client. If > you look at the screen shot you can see that the older emails all display the > sender's name in the list. Under the new system (just the topmost entry, > shown selected) every email comes from "ntg-context@ntg.nl" which is > completely useless when you want to visually scan down the list for a > particular person. It doesn’t make sense to argue about this, but it’s apparently a setting (or unchangeable behavior) of your Email app. My Apple Mail 12.4 on Mojave shows the same message like attached (dark mode). Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Code document and simpleslides and create in one go the document with simpleslides added
I worked around it, instead of simpleslides just use larger fonts to with regular pages \startbuffer[slides] \setuptolerance[ horizontal, tolerant, stretch] \setuppapersize[ A4,landscape] \setuplayout[ width=middle, backspace=35mm, cutspace=35mm, height=middle, topspace=5mm, bottomspace=20mm] \setuppagenumbering[ location={footer,center}] \setuphead [section] [page={yes}] \usetypescript[pagella] \setupbodyfont[pagella,18pt] \setupbodyfontenvironment[ 28pt][ % For body d=36pt, % For title a=12pt, % For author & date ] \setuptype[style=medium] \setuptyping[typing][bodyfont=16pt] \setupwhitespace[medium] \setbreakpoints[compound] \setuphead[chapter][style=\bfd] \setuphead[section][style=\bfc] \setuphead[subsection][style=\bfb] \setuphead[subsubsection][style=\bf] \setupitemize[autointro] % prevent orphan list intro \setupitemize[indentnext=no] \starttext \startsection[title={MySlideTitle},ref={myref1}] Body text \startitemize \item Item 1 \item Item 2 \stopitemize \stopsection \startsection[title={MySlideTitle},ref={myref2}] Body text \stopsection \stoptext\starttext text \stoptext \stopbuffer \savebuffer[list=slides, file=\jobname_slides.tex, prefix=no] \starttext \startbodymatter \dorecurse{25}{\input zapf\par} \typesetfile[\jobname_slides.tex][--purgeall][object=no, width=0pt] \stopbodymatter \startappendices \getfiguredimensions[\jobname_slides.pdf] \dorecurse{\noffigurepages} {\startTEXpage \externalfigure[\jobname_slides.pdf][page=\recurselevel] \stopTEXpage} \stopappendices \stoptext Op za 31 jul. 2021 om 16:22 schreef Thomas A. Schmitz via ntg-context < ntg-context@ntg.nl>: > > On 7/31/21 4:06 PM, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context wrote: > > BTW, I cannot get simpleslides working with LMTX. > > > I had to make some slight adjustments but have been to lazy to upload a > new and improved version. One reason being that I can't remember my > username and password for the modules section of the garden... I'll have > to ask Taco to reset it for me. > > Thomas > > ___ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > > ___ > ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Code document and simpleslides and create in one go the document with simpleslides added
On 7/31/21 4:06 PM, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context wrote: BTW, I cannot get simpleslides working with LMTX. I had to make some slight adjustments but have been to lazy to upload a new and improved version. One reason being that I can't remember my username and password for the modules section of the garden... I'll have to ask Taco to reset it for me. Thomas ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Code document and simpleslides and create in one go the document with simpleslides added
On 7/31/21 3:27 PM, Jeroen via ntg-context wrote: Is there an easy way to write a Context document and also code simpleslides in the same document so that the simpleslides are automatically added to the document as for example an appendix? Ie one tex document with Context code, perhaps with some \input and something like a two-pass job. I was thinking if the simpleslides could be saved as a number of png images and then with the recurse add them to the document with placefigure. "Easy" is an ambiguous term... I can tell you how I do this (I use xml, but with a bit of code, this can be adapted to TeX documents): I have the code for the slides and my own comments in the same documents; I pass a --mode to the compilation to filter and select content. When I have my presentation as a file "presentation.pdf," I save it and then have the slides included automatically via a counter, like this: function xml.functions.combined_slide(t) i = i + 1 local textwidth = tex.dimen.textwidth context.page() context.framed( { width=number.todimen(textwidth), frame="off", align="middle", height="10cm" }, function() context.externalfigure( { "presentation.pdf" }, { page=i, width="13cm" } ) end ) context.blank { "line" } end So, as others have said: no need to convert to png. Setting up a workflow takes some time and thought, but once it's in place, it works very well; I have now used my xml-based workflow for 12 years or so, for all my university lectures and talks. Thomas ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Code document and simpleslides and create in one go the document with simpleslides added
On 7/31/21 3:27 PM, Jeroen via ntg-context wrote: > Is there an easy way to write a Context document and also code > simpleslides in the same document so that the simpleslides are > automatically added to the document as for example an appendix? Ie > one tex document with Context code, perhaps with some \input and > something like a two-pass job. Hi Jeroen, not sure this might help you (I’m not sure you intend a single source file, in addition to a single PDF document), but here you have: \startbuffer[slides] \setuppapersize[CD] \setupbodyfont[60pt] \starttext \dorecurse{25} {\startmakeup[standard][pagestate=start, style={\ss\bf}, align=center] Slide \pagenumber \stopmakeup} \stoptext \stopbuffer \savebuffer[list=slides, file=\jobname_slides.tex, prefix=no] \starttext \startbodymatter \dorecurse{25}{\input zapf\par} \typesetfile[\jobname_slides.tex][--purgeall][object=no, width=0pt] \stopbodymatter \startappendices \getfiguredimensions[\jobname_slides.pdf] \dorecurse{\noffigurepages} {\startTEXpage \externalfigure[\jobname_slides.pdf][page=\recurselevel] \stopTEXpage} \stopappendices \stoptext BTW, I cannot get simpleslides working with LMTX. > I was thinking if the simpleslides could be saved as a number of png > images and then with the recurse add them to the document with > placefigure. \externalfigure is your friend here and there is no need to convert the slides to PNG (see above). Just in case it may help, Pablo -- http://www.ousia.tk ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Code document and simpleslides and create in one go the document with simpleslides added
> Am 31.07.2021 um 15:27 schrieb Jeroen via ntg-context : > > Is there an easy way to write a Context document and also code simpleslides > in the same document so that the simpleslides are automatically added to the > document as for example an appendix? Ie one tex document with Context code, > perhaps with some \input and something like a two-pass job. I was thinking if > the simpleslides could be saved as a number of png images and then with the > recurse add them to the document with placefigure. Why via PNG? And why recurse? You can include PDFs. Try \copypages or \filterpages. Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Strange new behaviour of the mailing list
> Am 31.07.2021 um 12:00 schrieb Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context > : > > message headers read now: > > From: Otared Kavian via ntg-context > To: mailing list for ConTeXt users > Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users > Cc: Otared Kavian > Errors-To: ntg-context-boun...@ntg.nl > Sender: "ntg-context" > > Before they read: > > From: Otared Kavian > To: mailing list for ConTeXt users > Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users > Errors-To: ntg-context-boun...@ntg.nl > Sender: "ntg-context" Ah, I didn’t recognize you mean this. Since the mail goes through the mailing list software, the sender must not be the original sender any more – ntg.nl is not allowed to send emails for a different domain. Many securely configured mail servers reject “faked” sender addresses, as they should. Look up DANE etc. Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Code document and simpleslides and create in one go the document with simpleslides added
Is there an easy way to write a Context document and also code simpleslides in the same document so that the simpleslides are automatically added to the document as for example an appendix? Ie one tex document with Context code, perhaps with some \input and something like a two-pass job. I was thinking if the simpleslides could be saved as a number of png images and then with the recurse add them to the document with placefigure. Jeroen ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Strange new behaviour of the mailing list
I read some lists (not this one) through game's nntp interface. So it's nice being notified if someone responds to your message. Also, I do t think I've ever received duplicate mails so I guess they are filtered out somehow. I think some lists do that automatically... Von: ntg-context im Auftrag von Thomas A. Schmitz via ntg-context Gesendet: Samstag, 31. Juli 2021 12:20:01 An: mailing list for ConTeXt users Cc: Thomas A. Schmitz Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] Strange new behaviour of the mailing list On 7/31/21 11:41 AM, Denis Maier via ntg-context wrote: > I think so too. Especially since the original sender's address isn't included > in "reply to all" messages. I think it's an improvement. I have never understood why the original sender needs an additional mail, on top of the one (s)he receives from the list. Thomas ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Strange new behaviour of the mailing list
On 7/31/21 11:41 AM, Denis Maier via ntg-context wrote: I think so too. Especially since the original sender's address isn't included in "reply to all" messages. I think it's an improvement. I have never understood why the original sender needs an additional mail, on top of the one (s)he receives from the list. Thomas ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Strange new behaviour of the mailing list
On 7/31/2021 11:31 AM, Otared Kavian via ntg-context wrote: On 31 Jul 2021, at 00:47, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl>> wrote: […] If you click on that name, you can see the actual address. Hraban Sure, but I don’t understand why the behaviour has changed. It seems to me a regression… probably some experiment or update ... nothing that Taco can't fix if needed (next week) ... btw, here 'reply all' just works fine Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Strange new behaviour of the mailing list
On 7/30/21 11:24 PM, Otared Kavian via ntg-context wrote: > Hi all, > > I noticed that beginning July 27th, the messages distributed by the > ConTeXt mailing list appear to be from > > Mailing list for ConTeXt users > > without the actual name of the sender appearing. It may be dependent > on the mail client I am using (Mail.app on MacOS 11.4), but I wonder > whether something has changed on mailing list server, and whether if > there is something I can do to have the old behaviour (which was > convenient when one wanted to follow up mails from some specific > contributors). > > Also has anybody else noticed this change? Hi Otared, message headers read now: From: Otared Kavian via ntg-context To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Cc: Otared Kavian Errors-To: ntg-context-boun...@ntg.nl Sender: "ntg-context" Before they read: From: Otared Kavian To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Errors-To: ntg-context-boun...@ntg.nl Sender: "ntg-context" I experience the same problem as yours. Before, replying in Thunderbird (Ctrl+r) generated a private reply. I needed to generate a reply to the list (Ctrl+Shif+l). Right now, Ctrl+r generates a reply to the list. It seems that there is no perfect solution to this. I mean, having both messages sent from original sender and replied by default to the list. I guess that this might be achieved finetuning Mailman (but I don’t know how). I hope it helps, Pablo -- http://www.ousia.tk ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] multimedia PDF in ConTeXt
On 7/31/21 1:08 AM, Michal Vlasák via ntg-context wrote: > [...] > By the way, Pablo, your issue > https://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context@ntg.nl/msg88204.html was also > solved in the last upload. Unfortunately it will probably not help you, > because Acrobat no longer supports this. > [...] > But, you can use renderings instead: > > \useexternalrendering[myaudiorendering] > [audio/mp3][audio.mp3][embed=yes] > > \definerenderingwindow[audiowindow] > [width=0sp, height=0sp] > > \definelayer[resources] > \setupbackgrounds[page][background=resources] > \setlayer[resources]{\placerenderingwindow[audiowindow][myaudiorendering]} > > \goto{PLAY SOUND}[StartRendering{myaudiorendering}] > > This is basically the example from "/back-swf.mkiv". Works in Acrobat. > And one can use either of the three possible file methods (embedded, > external, URL), not just external files. The layer is so that the empty > frame doesn't interfere with normal page content. No frame is drawn when > both dimensions are 0, not sure if that is a behaviour one can take as > granted. But currenntly the dimensions can't be zero. Many thanks for your code update, Michal. I’m extremely interested in investigating the possibilities this opens. But I’m afraid that I will have other things to do first. It will take me months to come back to this again. > Hans, I would omit the check for 0 dimensions of rendering window (as > already noted in the source, it is useful for sound). See patch below. Many thanks for the patch and for your help, Pablo -- http://www.ousia.tk ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Strange new behaviour of the mailing list
I think so too. Especially since the original sender's address isn't included in "reply to all" messages. Von: ntg-context im Auftrag von Otared Kavian via ntg-context Gesendet: Samstag, 31. Juli 2021 11:31:40 An: mailing list for ConTeXt users Cc: Otared Kavian Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] Strange new behaviour of the mailing list On 31 Jul 2021, at 00:47, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl>> wrote: […] If you click on that name, you can see the actual address. Hraban Sure, but I don’t understand why the behaviour has changed. It seems to me a regression… Best regards: Otared ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] multimedia PDF in ConTeXt
On 7/30/21 11:57 PM, Michal Vlasák via ntg-context wrote: > On Fri Jul 30, 2021 at 8:53 PM CEST, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context wrote: >> [...] >> Although I don’t read Czech, just out of curiosity, is your bachelor >> thesis available on the net, Michal? Thanks to theses.cz, I found >> https://is.muni.cz/th/t8qpp/DP_Vlasak_Michal_2015.pdf (only a name >> coincidence, I guess). > > Sorry, should have shared the link at the first place. > > https://dspace.cvut.cz/handle/10467/95065 Many thanks for your fast reply and the link to your thesis, Michal. >> [...] >> Is there no way to have the video as an embedded file in the PDF >> document? (I mean, that the file is listed when the attachment panel is >> displayed.) > > Currently, only attachments are added as "embedded files" (either as > "hidden", ending up in /EmbeddedFiles, or as "annotation" ending up as > /FileAttachment annotation). > > Maybe "codeinjections.embedfile" can have the option to force the > reference, so that the file also ends up in /EmbeddedFiles? Should it be > default for all \externalrenderings? > [...] > --- a/tex/context/base/mkxl/lpdf-wid.lmt > +++ b/tex/context/base/mkxl/lpdf-wid.lmt > [...] Many thanks for the patch. It would be also great to have an option not to list some files as embedded (adding a option "list" to "\useexternalrendering" such as in "\useexternalrendering[myvideo][video/mp4][video.mp4][embed=yes, list=no]"). Being the default to yes, I’m thinking of cases where there is a risk distributing the multimedia file without the embedding document, because of the lack of context (no pun indented) Many thanks for your help, Pablo -- http://www.ousia.tk ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Strange new behaviour of the mailing list
> On 31 Jul 2021, at 00:05, Bruce Horrocks wrote: > […] > I see the same thing, also on Macos. Looking at an older message, I see that > the Reply-To: header has changed from > > Reply to: Bruce Horrocks , > mailing list for ConTeXt users > > to > > Reply to: mailing list for ConTeXt users > > > So I suggest that there is little you can do as it appears to be a > configuration change on the mailing list server; and Apple Mail doesn't have > the facilities to easily allow you to re-write that header Hi Bruce, Thanks for your reply. I don’t know what has triggered this change, which seems to me strange and inconvenient. Best regards: Otared ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Strange new behaviour of the mailing list
> On 31 Jul 2021, at 00:47, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context > wrote: >> […] > > If you click on that name, you can see the actual address. > > Hraban Sure, but I don’t understand why the behaviour has changed. It seems to me a regression… Best regards: Otared ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Verbatim text in a frame
Hans Hagen via ntg-context schrieb am 31.07.2021 um 00:18: On 7/30/2021 9:12 PM, Jeroen via ntg-context wrote: I am using the following preamble to put a frame around verbatim text. How can I have all the text start some 5pt from the frame and how can I get rounded corners, corner=0 does not seem to work \setupcolors[state=start] \setupcolor[xwi] \definetextbackground [Code] [frame=on, framecolor=black, %corner=0, %offset=10pt, background=color, backgroundcolor=gray, location=paragraph] \setuptyping [before={\blank\starttextbackground[Code]}, after={\stoptextbackground\blank}] \starttext \starttyping example \stoptyping \stoptext \definetextbackground [Code] [frame=on, framecolor=black, corner=round, radius=10pt, topoffset=10pt, leftoffset=5pt, background=color, backgroundcolor=gray, location=paragraph] Both \blank settings can also be moved from \setuptyping to \setuptextbackground. \definetextbackground [Code] [frame=on, framecolor=black, corner=round, background=color, backgroundcolor=gray, location=paragraph, leftoffset=5mm, topoffset=5mm, before=\blank, after=\blank] \setuptyping [typing] [before={\starttextbackground[Code]}, after={\stoptextbackground}] Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___