Re: [NTG-context] update

2021-09-13 Thread Hans Hagen via ntg-context

On 9/13/2021 10:14 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:



Am 13.09.2021 um 11:12 schrieb Hans Hagen :

On 9/13/2021 10:37 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:

Am 13.09.2021 um 10:07 schrieb Hans Hagen via ntg-context :

Hi,

I uploaded a new lmtx (had forgotten to to it friday) . There are not that many 
visible changes but on is that i'm playing with some 'improvements' to inserts. 
Hopefully there are no side effects but the idea is to have somewhat better 
(more robust and predictable) support for e.g. footnotes in situations that are 
not natural to tex (like columns). The first mechanism to benefit from that is 
page columns but all that is a stepwise process. I keep track of that in yet 
another lowlevel manual. These column things are on the agenda for next month 
and beyond.

(In a next upload the new marking and tabulate optimization might become 
default but for now i test that locally.)

Hi, thank you!
I’m looking forward to these improvements, even if they won’t be in effect for 
my talk in Bassenge.
Running a project with this version, I get tons of messages like:
4:10:  
\penalty[userpenalty][color=1,colormodel=4,marks=334,snapmethod=3,breakpoint=1] 
1
4:10:  
\glue[userskip][color=1,colormodel=4,marks=334,snapmethod=3,breakpoint=1] 0.0pt 
plus 0.83287pt minus 0.41644pt
4:10:  
\penalty[userpenalty][color=1,colormodel=4,marks=334,snapmethod=3,breakpoint=1] 
1
4:10:  \glyph[32768][color=1,colormodel=4,marks=334,snapmethod=3,breakpoint=1], hyphenationmode 
"79F3F, options "80, font <36: lmmono10-regular @ 10.0pt>, glyph U+70 p
4:10:  
\penalty[userpenalty][color=1,colormodel=4,marks=334,snapmethod=3,breakpoint=1] 
1
Is this some debugging leftover or am I supposed to understand what’s wrong? ;)

hm, what command triggers that?


I don’t know yet. It seems to start in the middle of a section title in the 
first chapter of my book.


Oveefull boxes?


The footnotes unfortunately became only worse so far – often they’re 
overprinted by the running text, even without columns or grid.

I’ll try to come up with good examples, but this week is quite stuffed.

Ok.

Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] Setting up the double pages of part beginnings

2021-09-13 Thread Wolfgang Schuster via ntg-context

Bruce Horrocks via ntg-context schrieb am 13.09.2021 um 22:18:

In the absence of any other replies I think...

(a) your example is a good one. The only improvement would be to turn it into a 
2 across, 3 or 4 down set of mini pages imposed onto a larger one so that it 
can be rendered on the Wiki page without taking too much space. (I don't know 
how to do that - my experiments didn't go well!)

(b) the Titles page seems to be the right place for it, but that page is 
already quite long. Maybe your example could be put into its own page with a 
link from the Titles page examples section?


In the past the titles page was spread over many smaller pages with 
AFAIR a separate page for each layout.


Going to back to this doesn't seem to be the best idea but creating a 
new page for all examples can be useful.


Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] Setting up the double pages of part beginnings

2021-09-13 Thread Bruce Horrocks via ntg-context
In the absence of any other replies I think...

(a) your example is a good one. The only improvement would be to turn it into a 
2 across, 3 or 4 down set of mini pages imposed onto a larger one so that it 
can be rendered on the Wiki page without taking too much space. (I don't know 
how to do that - my experiments didn't go well!)

(b) the Titles page seems to be the right place for it, but that page is 
already quite long. Maybe your example could be put into its own page with a 
link from the Titles page examples section?


> On 12 Sep 2021, at 19:58, Christian Dekant via ntg-context 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thank you, this works nicely. I put up a (minimal) working example of the 
> adapted code (it inserts an empty page, if the peceding chapter ends on an 
> even page) on the wiki, see
> 
> https://wiki.contextgarden.net/User_talk:Christian.Dekant
> 
> Is this interesting for other users as well? (Maybe on 
> https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Titles?) If not ... I guess it will do no harm 
> on my discussion page.
> 
> All the best
> Christian
> 
> Am 11.09.21 um 13:25 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
>> Christian Dekant via ntg-context schrieb am 10.09.2021 um 19:25:
>>> Dear List,
>>> 
>>> I am trying to set up double pages at the beginning of a new part in such a 
>>> way that:
>>> - on an odd/right-hand page there will be number and the title typeset in 
>>> some fashion, and
>>> - on the even/left-hand page there should be a full (printpaper)size image.
>> 
>> https://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context@ntg.nl/msg94581.html
>> 
>> Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] update

2021-09-13 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context

> Am 13.09.2021 um 11:12 schrieb Hans Hagen :
> 
> On 9/13/2021 10:37 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
>>> Am 13.09.2021 um 10:07 schrieb Hans Hagen via ntg-context 
>>> :
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I uploaded a new lmtx (had forgotten to to it friday) . There are not that 
>>> many visible changes but on is that i'm playing with some 'improvements' to 
>>> inserts. Hopefully there are no side effects but the idea is to have 
>>> somewhat better (more robust and predictable) support for e.g. footnotes in 
>>> situations that are not natural to tex (like columns). The first mechanism 
>>> to benefit from that is page columns but all that is a stepwise process. I 
>>> keep track of that in yet another lowlevel manual. These column things are 
>>> on the agenda for next month and beyond.
>>> 
>>> (In a next upload the new marking and tabulate optimization might become 
>>> default but for now i test that locally.)
>> Hi, thank you!
>> I’m looking forward to these improvements, even if they won’t be in effect 
>> for my talk in Bassenge.
>> Running a project with this version, I get tons of messages like:
>> 4:10:  
>> \penalty[userpenalty][color=1,colormodel=4,marks=334,snapmethod=3,breakpoint=1]
>>  1
>> 4:10:  
>> \glue[userskip][color=1,colormodel=4,marks=334,snapmethod=3,breakpoint=1] 
>> 0.0pt plus 0.83287pt minus 0.41644pt
>> 4:10:  
>> \penalty[userpenalty][color=1,colormodel=4,marks=334,snapmethod=3,breakpoint=1]
>>  1
>> 4:10:  
>> \glyph[32768][color=1,colormodel=4,marks=334,snapmethod=3,breakpoint=1], 
>> hyphenationmode "79F3F, options "80, font <36: lmmono10-regular @ 10.0pt>, 
>> glyph U+70 p
>> 4:10:  
>> \penalty[userpenalty][color=1,colormodel=4,marks=334,snapmethod=3,breakpoint=1]
>>  1
>> Is this some debugging leftover or am I supposed to understand what’s wrong? 
>> ;)
> hm, what command triggers that?

I don’t know yet. It seems to start in the middle of a section title in the 
first chapter of my book.

The footnotes unfortunately became only worse so far – often they’re 
overprinted by the running text, even without columns or grid.

I’ll try to come up with good examples, but this week is quite stuffed.

Hraban
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Re: [NTG-context] update

2021-09-13 Thread Garulfo via ntg-context

  
  

> Hopefully there are no side effects but the idea is to have somewhat
> better (more robust and predictable) support for e.g. footnotes in 
> situations that are not natural to tex (like columns). The first 
> mechanism to benefit from that is page columns but all that is a
> stepwise process. I keep track of that in yet another lowlevel manual.
> These column things are on the agenda for next month and beyond.


Good news, thank you very much ! 
I'm fond of typesetting in columns (with footnotes and margin notes)


Garulfo




  

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Re: [NTG-context] Image cropped

2021-09-13 Thread Fabrice Couvreur via ntg-context
Hi Wolfgang,
I had done the same thing but I thought this solution was not the most
elegant, and I wanted to know what the specialists were going to do.
Thank you.
Fabrice

Le dim. 12 sept. 2021 à 16:50, Wolfgang Schuster via ntg-context <
ntg-context@ntg.nl> a écrit :

> Fabrice Couvreur via ntg-context schrieb am 12.09.2021 um 12:10:
>
> Hi Wolfgang,
> That's what I understood but the problem is that if I reduce the margin,
> the logo is too small in my opinion : what would you do ?
>
>
> Place the logo with a layer or shift is inwards.
>
> \setuplayout
>   [width=middle,
>height=middle]
>
> \setupfootertexts
>   [margin]
>   []
>   [{\offset[x=-1cm,y=\strutdp]{\externalfigure[logo.pdf][factor=max]}}]
>   []
>   [{\offset[x=1cm,y=\strutdp]{\externalfigure[logo.pdf][factor=max]}}]
>
> %\showframe
>
> \starttext
> \dorecurse{8}{\samplefile{knuth}}
> \stoptext
>
> Wolfgang
>
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Re: [NTG-context] Headline with numbers in margin doubleside layout

2021-09-13 Thread Wolfgang Schuster via ntg-context

juh via ntg-context schrieb am 13.09.2021 um 13:07:

Hi all,

I have a doubleside layout with a big outer margin.

When I set alternative=margin in setuphead the chapter numbers appear in
the left margin which is the outer margin on left pages, but the inner
margin on right pages.

While this looks good on left pages, there is much free space on right
pages.

I would like to use this space for headlines to balance the impression.

Is it possible to assign headlines to the textarea+margin somehow only
on right pages so that headlines would run into the outermargin o right
pages??


Like this?

\setuphead
  [chapter]
  [page=yes,
   alternative=inmargin,
   location=outer,
   align=outer]

\setuppagenumbering
  [alternative=doublesided]

\showframe

\starttext
\dorecurse{10}{\expanded{\chapter{Chapter 
\convertnumber{word}{\recurselevel

\stoptext

Wolfgang

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[NTG-context] Headline with numbers in margin doubleside layout

2021-09-13 Thread juh via ntg-context
Hi all,

I have a doubleside layout with a big outer margin.

When I set alternative=margin in setuphead the chapter numbers appear in
the left margin which is the outer margin on left pages, but the inner
margin on right pages.

While this looks good on left pages, there is much free space on right
pages.

I would like to use this space for headlines to balance the impression.

Is it possible to assign headlines to the textarea+margin somehow only
on right pages so that headlines would run into the outermargin o right
pages??

TIA
juh

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Re: [NTG-context] update

2021-09-13 Thread Hans Hagen via ntg-context

On 9/13/2021 10:37 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:



Am 13.09.2021 um 10:07 schrieb Hans Hagen via ntg-context :

Hi,

I uploaded a new lmtx (had forgotten to to it friday) . There are not that many 
visible changes but on is that i'm playing with some 'improvements' to inserts. 
Hopefully there are no side effects but the idea is to have somewhat better 
(more robust and predictable) support for e.g. footnotes in situations that are 
not natural to tex (like columns). The first mechanism to benefit from that is 
page columns but all that is a stepwise process. I keep track of that in yet 
another lowlevel manual. These column things are on the agenda for next month 
and beyond.

(In a next upload the new marking and tabulate optimization might become 
default but for now i test that locally.)


Hi, thank you!

I’m looking forward to these improvements, even if they won’t be in effect for 
my talk in Bassenge.


Running a project with this version, I get tons of messages like:

4:10:  
\penalty[userpenalty][color=1,colormodel=4,marks=334,snapmethod=3,breakpoint=1] 
1
4:10:  
\glue[userskip][color=1,colormodel=4,marks=334,snapmethod=3,breakpoint=1] 0.0pt 
plus 0.83287pt minus 0.41644pt
4:10:  
\penalty[userpenalty][color=1,colormodel=4,marks=334,snapmethod=3,breakpoint=1] 
1
4:10:  \glyph[32768][color=1,colormodel=4,marks=334,snapmethod=3,breakpoint=1], hyphenationmode 
"79F3F, options "80, font <36: lmmono10-regular @ 10.0pt>, glyph U+70 p
4:10:  
\penalty[userpenalty][color=1,colormodel=4,marks=334,snapmethod=3,breakpoint=1] 
1

Is this some debugging leftover or am I supposed to understand what’s wrong? ;)

hm, what command triggers that?


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Re: [NTG-context] update

2021-09-13 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context

> Am 13.09.2021 um 10:07 schrieb Hans Hagen via ntg-context 
> :
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I uploaded a new lmtx (had forgotten to to it friday) . There are not that 
> many visible changes but on is that i'm playing with some 'improvements' to 
> inserts. Hopefully there are no side effects but the idea is to have somewhat 
> better (more robust and predictable) support for e.g. footnotes in situations 
> that are not natural to tex (like columns). The first mechanism to benefit 
> from that is page columns but all that is a stepwise process. I keep track of 
> that in yet another lowlevel manual. These column things are on the agenda 
> for next month and beyond.
> 
> (In a next upload the new marking and tabulate optimization might become 
> default but for now i test that locally.)

Hi, thank you!

I’m looking forward to these improvements, even if they won’t be in effect for 
my talk in Bassenge.


Running a project with this version, I get tons of messages like:

4:10:  
\penalty[userpenalty][color=1,colormodel=4,marks=334,snapmethod=3,breakpoint=1] 
1
4:10:  
\glue[userskip][color=1,colormodel=4,marks=334,snapmethod=3,breakpoint=1] 0.0pt 
plus 0.83287pt minus 0.41644pt
4:10:  
\penalty[userpenalty][color=1,colormodel=4,marks=334,snapmethod=3,breakpoint=1] 
1
4:10:  \glyph[32768][color=1,colormodel=4,marks=334,snapmethod=3,breakpoint=1], 
hyphenationmode "79F3F, options "80, font <36: lmmono10-regular @ 10.0pt>, 
glyph U+70 p
4:10:  
\penalty[userpenalty][color=1,colormodel=4,marks=334,snapmethod=3,breakpoint=1] 
1

Is this some debugging leftover or am I supposed to understand what’s wrong? ;)

Hraban
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[NTG-context] update

2021-09-13 Thread Hans Hagen via ntg-context

Hi,

I uploaded a new lmtx (had forgotten to to it friday) . There are not 
that many visible changes but on is that i'm playing with some 
'improvements' to inserts. Hopefully there are no side effects but the 
idea is to have somewhat better (more robust and predictable) support 
for e.g. footnotes in situations that are not natural to tex (like 
columns). The first mechanism to benefit from that is page columns but 
all that is a stepwise process. I keep track of that in yet another 
lowlevel manual. These column things are on the agenda for next month 
and beyond.


(In a next upload the new marking and tabulate optimization might become 
default but for now i test that locally.)


Hans

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2021-09-13 Thread Jano Kula via ntg-context

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