Re: [NTG-context] [Context] Xindy

2008-09-13 Thread Hans Hagen
Gour wrote:
 Mojca == Mojca Miklavec [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Mojca Hello Gour, This is not a question for this mailing list, but
 Mojca rather for Hans himself.
 
 OK.
 
 Mojca ConTeXt doesn't use makeindex, so I don't really understand your
 Mojca complaints about makeindex.
 
 Well, I mentioned 'makeindex' in the context of the tool which cannot
 properly handle Unicode, afaik.
 
 Mojca What features exactly do you miss? 
 
 I'm not sure if indexing-feature in ConTeXt allow me to use English,
 Croatian and Sanskrit diacritics (not Devanagari) all in one document and 
 define that I
 want e.g. that \'{s}, \d{s} has to be sorted under 'Š' ?
 
 In short, xindy allows one to define his own sort-rules.

you can define your own sort order (in mkiv this is somewhat easier 
because there we're in unicode space)

 Mojca It makes no sense to discuss distributing something before it can
 Mojca be used with ConTeXt.)
 
 Right, that's why also asked Now I'm interested how is support for
 Xindy in ConTeXt hoping that the context-distribution list has enough
 knowledgeable people able to answer it.
 
 Excuse me for the noise...redirecting to other list...

personally i have no plans for using xindy (i looked into it real long 
ago but at that time it was rather latex oriented and could not carry 
enough info around which i want in context)

currently the index mechanism in mkiv still uses the same tex interface 
when typesetting the index itself, but i will provide a more extensive 
mechanism (first i redo the sectioning and list); at that point we will 
also have one-pass index handling

of course, if someone wants to write a m-xindy, i can provide additional 
interfaces/hooks if needed

Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] [Context] Xindy

2008-09-13 Thread Gour
 Hans == Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Hans you can define your own sort order (in mkiv this is somewhat
Hans easier because there we're in unicode space)

Well, Xindy works with utf-8, but it 's nice to hear about mkiv's
features.

Hans personally i have no plans for using xindy (i looked into it real
Hans long ago but at that time it was rather latex oriented and could
Hans not carry enough info around which i want in context)

Hmm, iirc, (it was long ago when I read Xindy's docs), Xindy is quite
markup agnostic. The very web site says:

xindy is an index processor that can be used to generate book-like
indexes for arbitrary document-preparation systems. This includes
systems such as TeX and LaTeX, the roff-family, SGML/XML-based systems
(e.g., HTML) that process some kind of text and generate indexing
information. The kernel system is not fixed to any specific system, but
can be configured to work together with such systems.

You can also read http://xindy.sourceforge.net/features.html page...

Can ConTeXt process e.g. indexes like Bible's example mentioned under
Manage Non-Standard Locations section in the above page?

Hans of course, if someone wants to write a m-xindy, i can provide
Hans additional interfaces/hooks if needed

I'll be definitely interested to have it. However, probably not enough
time before the end of the year.

m-xindy is tsupposed to be written in TeX macro or Lua?


Sincerely,
Gour

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Re: [NTG-context] [Context] Xindy

2008-09-12 Thread Gour
 Mojca == Mojca Miklavec [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Mojca Hello Gour, This is not a question for this mailing list, but
Mojca rather for Hans himself.

OK.

Mojca ConTeXt doesn't use makeindex, so I don't really understand your
Mojca complaints about makeindex.

Well, I mentioned 'makeindex' in the context of the tool which cannot
properly handle Unicode, afaik.

Mojca What features exactly do you miss? 

I'm not sure if indexing-feature in ConTeXt allow me to use English,
Croatian and Sanskrit diacritics (not Devanagari) all in one document and 
define that I
want e.g. that \'{s}, \d{s} has to be sorted under 'Š' ?

In short, xindy allows one to define his own sort-rules.

Mojca It makes no sense to discuss distributing something before it can
Mojca be used with ConTeXt.)

Right, that's why also asked Now I'm interested how is support for
Xindy in ConTeXt hoping that the context-distribution list has enough
knowledgeable people able to answer it.

Excuse me for the noise...redirecting to other list...


Sincerely,
Gour

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