Re: [NTG-context] \setupheadertexts for chapters with different authors
Thanks for the bits and pieces to the puzzle. I'll do my best to make
sense of them and solve the problem.
Julian
On 19/3/22 20:18, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote:
Hi Julian,
you’re right, the example didn’t do what you wanted, and it didn’t
intend to.
Using \getmarking you can get a section title (or another “mark”), you
can’t combine it with the variable commands, and you don’t need it for
your case.
https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/getmarking isn’t really helpful
since there’s no example with section titles, but it shows you can
also get previous or next “marks”.
BTW, I can’t remember when you need \structurevariable vs.
\namedstructurevariable...
Hraban
Am 19.03.22 um 03:16 schrieb jbf via ntg-context:
I might need a little more help just to understand how best to adapt
this to my situation:
One thing is clear: I was attempting to use a 'list' variable, and I
can see why that was an error, since it is headertexts, not TOC that
I want to influence.
But let me simplify my situation:
You seem to suggest initially that I could use \structureuservariable
(or \structurevariable) instead, especially since I already have a
variable to call on, e.g \startchapter[title={My title}][author={A.
uthor}]. But in the example you then gave, you made no use of either
of these.
My current setting is:
\setupheadertexts [{\hfill\getmarking[chapter]\hfill}][]
[{\hfill\documentvariable{metadata:title}\hfill}][]
which gives me the book title centred on verso pages, and the chapter
title centred on recto pages. All I want to do is to have the chapter
contributors' name for each chapter instead of the chapter title.
So why can't I create a setups along the lines of:
\startsetups[contributor] \getmarking[\structureuservariable{author}]
\stopsetups
Then just swap 'chapter' in \setupheadertexts, with 'contributor'? I
tried it but it doesn't work. I thought it would be logical. Clearly
I'm wrong but don't appreciate why.
Julian
On 18/3/22 18:52, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote:
The *list* variables work only in lists.
There’s also \structurevariable and \structureuservariable.
Make sure you use setups for the header, otherwise the variable gets
expanded only once at the beginning.
Like in:
\setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]
\setupheadertexts[] % empty
\setupheadertexts[\setups{text right}][][][\setups{text left}]
\startsetups[text right]
\rlap{\pagenumber}
\hfill
\getmarking[chapter]
\hfill
\llap{Un Nom}
\stopsetups
\startsetups[text left]
\rlap{Una Person}
\hfill
\getmarking[section]
\hfill
\llap{\pagenumber}
\stopsetups
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Re: [NTG-context] \setupheadertexts for chapters with different authors
On 3/19/2022 10:18 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote: BTW, I can’t remember when you need \structurevariable vs. \namedstructurevariable... the first is the current, the second a specific one ... so current can be subsubsubsubsubsection but with named you can still get the current chapter BTW, best write it down (your book) some place as it can come in handy ... Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \setupheadertexts for chapters with different authors
Hi Julian,
you’re right, the example didn’t do what you wanted, and it didn’t
intend to.
Using \getmarking you can get a section title (or another “mark”), you
can’t combine it with the variable commands, and you don’t need it for
your case.
https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/getmarking isn’t really helpful
since there’s no example with section titles, but it shows you can also
get previous or next “marks”.
BTW, I can’t remember when you need \structurevariable vs.
\namedstructurevariable...
Hraban
Am 19.03.22 um 03:16 schrieb jbf via ntg-context:
I might need a little more help just to understand how best to adapt
this to my situation:
One thing is clear: I was attempting to use a 'list' variable, and I can
see why that was an error, since it is headertexts, not TOC that I want
to influence.
But let me simplify my situation:
You seem to suggest initially that I could use \structureuservariable
(or \structurevariable) instead, especially since I already have a
variable to call on, e.g \startchapter[title={My title}][author={A.
uthor}]. But in the example you then gave, you made no use of either of
these.
My current setting is:
\setupheadertexts [{\hfill\getmarking[chapter]\hfill}][]
[{\hfill\documentvariable{metadata:title}\hfill}][]
which gives me the book title centred on verso pages, and the chapter
title centred on recto pages. All I want to do is to have the chapter
contributors' name for each chapter instead of the chapter title.
So why can't I create a setups along the lines of:
\startsetups[contributor] \getmarking[\structureuservariable{author}]
\stopsetups
Then just swap 'chapter' in \setupheadertexts, with 'contributor'? I
tried it but it doesn't work. I thought it would be logical. Clearly I'm
wrong but don't appreciate why.
Julian
On 18/3/22 18:52, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote:
The *list* variables work only in lists.
There’s also \structurevariable and \structureuservariable.
Make sure you use setups for the header, otherwise the variable gets
expanded only once at the beginning.
Like in:
\setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]
\setupheadertexts[] % empty
\setupheadertexts[\setups{text right}][][][\setups{text left}]
\startsetups[text right]
\rlap{\pagenumber}
\hfill
\getmarking[chapter]
\hfill
\llap{Un Nom}
\stopsetups
\startsetups[text left]
\rlap{Una Person}
\hfill
\getmarking[section]
\hfill
\llap{\pagenumber}
\stopsetups
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Re: [NTG-context] \setupheadertexts for chapters with different authors
Sorry, of course I meant swap 'chapter' with \setups{contributor}
J
On 19/3/22 13:16, jbf wrote:
Then just swap 'chapter' in \setupheadertexts, with 'contributor'?
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Re: [NTG-context] \setupheadertexts for chapters with different authors
I might need a little more help just to understand how best to adapt
this to my situation:
One thing is clear: I was attempting to use a 'list' variable, and I can
see why that was an error, since it is headertexts, not TOC that I want
to influence.
But let me simplify my situation:
You seem to suggest initially that I could use \structureuservariable
(or \structurevariable) instead, especially since I already have a
variable to call on, e.g \startchapter[title={My title}][author={A.
uthor}]. But in the example you then gave, you made no use of either of
these.
My current setting is:
\setupheadertexts [{\hfill\getmarking[chapter]\hfill}][]
[{\hfill\documentvariable{metadata:title}\hfill}][]
which gives me the book title centred on verso pages, and the chapter
title centred on recto pages. All I want to do is to have the chapter
contributors' name for each chapter instead of the chapter title.
So why can't I create a setups along the lines of:
\startsetups[contributor] \getmarking[\structureuservariable{author}]
\stopsetups
Then just swap 'chapter' in \setupheadertexts, with 'contributor'? I
tried it but it doesn't work. I thought it would be logical. Clearly I'm
wrong but don't appreciate why.
Julian
On 18/3/22 18:52, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote:
The *list* variables work only in lists.
There’s also \structurevariable and \structureuservariable.
Make sure you use setups for the header, otherwise the variable gets
expanded only once at the beginning.
Like in:
\setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]
\setupheadertexts[] % empty
\setupheadertexts[\setups{text right}][][][\setups{text left}]
\startsetups[text right]
\rlap{\pagenumber}
\hfill
\getmarking[chapter]
\hfill
\llap{Un Nom}
\stopsetups
\startsetups[text left]
\rlap{Una Person}
\hfill
\getmarking[section]
\hfill
\llap{\pagenumber}
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Re: [NTG-context] \setupheadertexts for chapters with different authors
Am 18.03.22 um 10:13 schrieb jbf via ntg-context: Off list for the moment. Late at night where I am. I will take a look at this more closely on the morrow. Thanks. You’re welcome. BTW I answered with some German last time since I mixed up jbf and juh – the latter I know to be German. Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \setupheadertexts for chapters with different authors
Off list for the moment. Late at night where I am. I will take a look at
this more closely on the morrow. Thanks.
Julian
On 18/3/22 18:52, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote:
\setupheadertexts[] % empty
\setupheadertexts[\setups{text right}][][][\setups{text left}]
\startsetups[text right]
\rlap{\pagenumber}
\hfill
\getmarking[chapter]
\hfill
\llap{Un Nom}
\stopsetups
\startsetups[text left]
\rlap{Una Person}
\hfill
\getmarking[section]
\hfill
\llap{\pagenumber}
\stopsetups
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Re: [NTG-context] \setupheadertexts for chapters with different authors
Am 18.03.22 um 01:48 schrieb jbf via ntg-context:
I thought this should work, since \structurelistuservariable{author}
works fine to call the author name into the TOC, but the same does not
work for header texts it seems:
\setupheadertexts
[{\hfill\getmarking[\structurelistuservariable{author}]\hfill}][]
[{\hfill\documentvariable{metadata:title}\hfill}][]
But it doesn't. What am I doing wrong?
The *list* variables work only in lists.
There’s also \structurevariable and \structureuservariable.
Make sure you use setups for the header, otherwise the variable gets
expanded only once at the beginning.
Like in:
\setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]
\setupheadertexts[] % empty
\setupheadertexts[\setups{text right}][][][\setups{text left}]
\startsetups[text right]
\rlap{\pagenumber}
\hfill
\getmarking[chapter]
\hfill
\llap{Un Nom}
\stopsetups
\startsetups[text left]
\rlap{Una Person}
\hfill
\getmarking[section]
\hfill
\llap{\pagenumber}
\stopsetups
HTH
Hraban
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[NTG-context] \setupheadertexts for chapters with different authors
I thought this should work, since \structurelistuservariable{author}
works fine to call the author name into the TOC, but the same does not
work for header texts it seems:
\setupheadertexts
[{\hfill\getmarking[\structurelistuservariable{author}]\hfill}][]
[{\hfill\documentvariable{metadata:title}\hfill}][]
But it doesn't. What am I doing wrong?
Julian
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