Re: [NTG-context] \setupmathematics[lcgreek=normal] problem with default font
Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote: Hello friends, I look at the conversations on the list and begin feeling scared. I have a serious project with very tough deadline and heavy use of math. Our publishing department reject everything that does not meet their standards. Initially, I relied upon to possibilities: a) use standard LM fonts, but with upright greek b) use Times (Termes) letters for math, but with italized Latin Never thought that either could ever be a serious problem. Does anybody control the situation? Or my hopes are delusive and my project doomed? as with all these font relate issues keep in mind that the people involved in math support in mkiv (i.e. going unicode) already spent quite some time on it and matching unicode slots to whatevere font that might provided missing glyphs takes a lot of time; if you miss things, you can try to locate what matching fonts has it and provide us the information (mapping) so that we can look at it and possibly integrate it (also keep in mind that eventually we will have new lm and gyre math fonts so getting everything 100% complete now is not our main objective) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \setupmathematics[lcgreek=normal] problem with default font
On Wed, 11 Nov 2009, Mojca Miklavec wrote: On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 01:12, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote: Hello friends, I look at the conversations on the list and begin feeling scared. I have a serious project with very tough deadline and heavy use of math. Our publishing department reject everything that does not meet their standards. Initially, I relied upon to possibilities: a) use standard LM fonts, but with upright greek What do all the other LaTeX users do? Do you have link to any TeX-generated document as example? You can also try creating a virtual math font that uses a text font that has upright greek letters (CM Unicode maybe). LM fonts don't have upright greek, so there is little that ConTeXt can do. Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \setupmathematics[lcgreek=normal] problem with default font
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 01:12, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote: > Hello friends, > > I look at the conversations on the list and begin feeling scared. I have a > serious project with very tough deadline and heavy use of math. Our > publishing department reject everything that does not meet their standards. > Initially, I relied upon to possibilities: > > a) use standard LM fonts, but with upright greek What do all the other LaTeX users do? Do you have link to any TeX-generated document as example? > b) use Times (Termes) letters for math, but with italized Latin > > Never thought that either could ever be a serious problem. Times math should work in mkii, but I don't know if you are able to use it or not or if you really need some MKIV features. You may try the font created by Khaled or Cambria Math. Fixing italic latin letters in txmath should not be too difficult, but it nevertheless takes some work and it's not ready yet. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \setupmathematics[lcgreek=normal] problem with default font
Hello friends, I look at the conversations on the list and begin feeling scared. I have a serious project with very tough deadline and heavy use of math. Our publishing department reject everything that does not meet their standards. Initially, I relied upon to possibilities: a) use standard LM fonts, but with upright greek b) use Times (Termes) letters for math, but with italized Latin Never thought that either could ever be a serious problem. Does anybody control the situation? Or my hopes are delusive and my project doomed? P.S. This is really sad, no whimpering :( Regards, Vyatcheslav ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \setupmathematics[lcgreek=normal] problem with default font
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009, Hans Hagen wrote: Aditya Mahajan wrote: On Mon, 9 Nov 2009, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote: BTW, after setting \setupmathematics[lcgreek=normal] with default TeX math font, all low case greek letters are disappeared :( Hans, any idea why ConTeXt is looking for U+03B1 in font LMMath12-Regular rather than in LMRoman12-Regular? Vyatcheslav, if you want upright greek letters, you should really consider using an opentype math font (cambria, asana, irianis ADF math). we could (for the moment) map the lower range greek to italic (unless we have a matching font with upright) I see. LM fonts do not have upright greek characters. In that case then lcgreek=normal should not be used. Extra remappings can be tricky (we then should also be checking sans serif and bold fonts, and remapping them if the font is incomplete. Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \setupmathematics[lcgreek=normal] problem with default font
Aditya Mahajan wrote: On Mon, 9 Nov 2009, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote: BTW, after setting \setupmathematics[lcgreek=normal] with default TeX math font, all low case greek letters are disappeared :( Hans, any idea why ConTeXt is looking for U+03B1 in font LMMath12-Regular rather than in LMRoman12-Regular? Vyatcheslav, if you want upright greek letters, you should really consider using an opentype math font (cambria, asana, irianis ADF math). we could (for the moment) map the lower range greek to italic (unless we have a matching font with upright) - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \setupmathematics[lcgreek=normal] problem with default font
Hello, Vyatcheslav, if you want upright greek letters, you should really consider using an opentype math font (cambria, asana, irianis ADF math). Aditya, I'm trying to use math provided with Termes (don't know what math fonts are used). But the first thing I stuck is just the opposite -- I cannot get Latin letters italized. How I can setup this? Vyatcheslav ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \setupmathematics[lcgreek=normal] problem with default font
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 8:44 PM, Aditya Mahajan wrote: > On Mon, 9 Nov 2009, luigi scarso wrote: > >> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Aditya Mahajan wrote: >>> >>> The NOTICE file says that it does (but I don't even know how to check >>> that >>> in the font) >> >> fontforge ? >> ttx ? > > Let me rephrase. I am not motivated enough to learn how to check a MATH > table in a font :) # ttx -t MATH Asana-Math.otf Dumping "Asana-Math.otf" to "Asana-Math.ttx"... Dumping 'MATH' table... # ttx -t MATH IrianisADFMath-Regular.otf Dumping "IrianisADFMath-Regular.otf" to "IrianisADFMath-Regular#1.ttx"... No 'MATH' table found. -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \setupmathematics[lcgreek=normal] problem with default font
On Mon, 9 Nov 2009, luigi scarso wrote: On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Aditya Mahajan wrote: The NOTICE file says that it does (but I don't even know how to check that in the font) fontforge ? ttx ? Let me rephrase. I am not motivated enough to learn how to check a MATH table in a font :) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \setupmathematics[lcgreek=normal] problem with default font
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Aditya Mahajan wrote: > On Mon, 9 Nov 2009, Khaled Hosny wrote: > >> On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 12:18:55PM -0500, Aditya Mahajan wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, 9 Nov 2009, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote: >>> >>> Vyatcheslav, if you want upright greek letters, you should really >>> consider using an opentype math font (cambria, asana, irianis ADF math). >> >> Do Irianis ADF Math include MATH table? I just checked 1.005 version and >> I see math glyphs but no MATH table. > > The NOTICE file says that it does (but I don't even know how to check that > in the font) fontforge ? ttx ? -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \setupmathematics[lcgreek=normal] problem with default font
On Mon, 9 Nov 2009, Khaled Hosny wrote: On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 12:18:55PM -0500, Aditya Mahajan wrote: On Mon, 9 Nov 2009, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote: Vyatcheslav, if you want upright greek letters, you should really consider using an opentype math font (cambria, asana, irianis ADF math). Do Irianis ADF Math include MATH table? I just checked 1.005 version and I see math glyphs but no MATH table. The NOTICE file says that it does (but I don't even know how to check that in the font) RELEASE 1.000 - Initial release (June 2008) 1.001 - letterlike symbols and presentation symbols addition 1.002 - mathematic letter 1.003 - Math table addition 1.004 - Greek and Turkish, SansSerif and sript glyph addition in the Mathematical Alphanumeric Symbols, kern by kerning class 1.005 - Math table completed with big variantes. Arrows glyhs set completed with some dingbat ghyphs. Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \setupmathematics[lcgreek=normal] problem with default font
On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 12:18:55PM -0500, Aditya Mahajan wrote: > On Mon, 9 Nov 2009, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote: > > Vyatcheslav, if you want upright greek letters, you should really > consider using an opentype math font (cambria, asana, irianis ADF math). Do Irianis ADF Math include MATH table? I just checked 1.005 version and I see math glyphs but no MATH table. Regards, Khaled -- Khaled Hosny Arabic localiser and member of Arabeyes.org team Free font developer signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \setupmathematics[lcgreek=normal] problem with default font
On Mon, 9 Nov 2009, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote: BTW, after setting \setupmathematics[lcgreek=normal] with default TeX math font, all low case greek letters are disappeared :( Hans, any idea why ConTeXt is looking for U+03B1 in font LMMath12-Regular rather than in LMRoman12-Regular? Vyatcheslav, if you want upright greek letters, you should really consider using an opentype math font (cambria, asana, irianis ADF math). Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] \setupmathematics[lcgreek=normal] problem with default font
Hello, BTW, after setting \setupmathematics[lcgreek=normal] with default TeX math font, all low case greek letters are disappeared :( Vyatcheslav ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
