Re: [NTG-context] Angle braces?

2006-06-11 Thread Steven Robertson
Mojca Miklavec wrote:
 On 6/10/06, Steven Robertson wrote:
 
Hi Mojca,

It is more than two months old; the tetex i'm using is version 2.0.2 or
somesuch. So an upgrade is definitely due.
 
 
 Well, if you want to say that texexec --version (now ctxtools
 --contextversion) returns something around 2002, please don't ever try
 to mention that on this list if you want to stay alive ;)

Thanks for the safety tip :)

 
 Best download justtext.zip and linuxtex.zip from www.pragma-ade.com,
 extract them to some folder of your choice and execute . setuptex in
 your .bashrc. And then do ctxtools --update every tho weeks ;)
 
 teTeX isn't maintaind any more.

And thanks for these two tips too. I've since sorted out the original
angles problem by explicitly loading a font - which I think to do
otherwise, since the default worked for the most part.

Thanks for the help,
-Steven

 
 Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Angle braces?

2006-06-10 Thread Steven Robertson
Hi Mojca,

It is more than two months old; the tetex i'm using is version 2.0.2 or
somesuch. So an upgrade is definitely due.

On the dvi v pdf question, I'm a bit confused, because I didn't mention
my actual output format. I have actually been outputting things as dvi
for reading on my computer, but printing pdfs. The same problems have
been occurring in both formats, but I might be missing the point of your
question here.

Using \char60 and \char62 gives the same results as using the characters
 and  in the text, which is are upside down question mark and
explanation mark (which I can't easily type into this email to demonstrate).

I will have a try at updating the fonts, and failing that, the whole
tetex system.

Thanks for the tip on the mirrors, and the help.
-Steven

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The angle braces I'm after are the ones that go around URLs in
citations, as in

[12] Smith, `Article on Things', available at www.smith.com.

It's been suggested to me elsewhere that I upgrade my ConTeXt version,
so hopefully that will help.
 
 
 Well ... if it's more than two months old, it might already be ancient ;)
 Also consider updating the fonts.
 
 Why are you using dvi instead of PDF?
 
 
I'll have a look around and see if there
are particular angle braces that should be used for the above purpose
(i.e. not greater-than/less-than or guillemots--they are `double', but
Ithe suggestion is appreciated).
 
 
 The example works OK here. Which font are you using? Most probably
 either the font is old/broken or the two characters are active.
 
 What do you get if you type:
 foo \char60 bar\char62 foo?
 (You may never type like that, but just for debugging puposes.)
 
 Mojca
 
 Btw: there are two mirrors of Pragma website (see links on
 wiki.contextgarden.net).
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Re: [NTG-context] Angle braces?

2006-06-10 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On 6/10/06, Steven Robertson wrote:
 Hi Mojca,

 It is more than two months old; the tetex i'm using is version 2.0.2 or
 somesuch. So an upgrade is definitely due.

Well, if you want to say that texexec --version (now ctxtools
--contextversion) returns something around 2002, please don't ever try
to mention that on this list if you want to stay alive ;)

Best download justtext.zip and linuxtex.zip from www.pragma-ade.com,
extract them to some folder of your choice and execute . setuptex in
your .bashrc. And then do ctxtools --update every tho weeks ;)

teTeX isn't maintaind any more.

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Angle braces?

2006-06-09 Thread Steven Robertson
Hi Matthias, thanks for your reply.

The angle braces I'm after are the ones that go around URLs in
citations, as in

[12] Smith, `Article on Things', available at www.smith.com.

It's been suggested to me elsewhere that I upgrade my ConTeXt version,
so hopefully that will help. I'll have a look around and see if there
are particular angle braces that should be used for the above purpose
(i.e. not greater-than/less-than or guillemots--they are `double', but
Ithe suggestion is appreciated).

Thanks,
Steven

Matthias Weber wrote:
 Hi,
 
 this depends -- different fonts contain different kinds of 'angle  
 braces',
 depending on their purpose. Do you want them for (french style)
 quotations, or for typesetting math?
 
 The following is a set of examples -- they might look very different
 with other fonts.
 
 Matthias
 
 
 (\langle and \rangle is math mode only I believe)
 
 \setuplanguage [en] [rightquote=\rightguillemot,leftquote= 
 \leftguillemot]
 
 
 \starttext
 
 foo \leftguillemot bar\rightguillemot{} foo
 \leftsubguillemot bar\rightsubguillemot{}
 foo $\langle \text{bar}\rangle$ foo.
 
 
 foo \quote{bar} foo
 \stoptext
 
 
 On Jun 7, 2006, at 3:35 AM, Steven Robertson wrote:
 
 
Hi,

Annoyingly simple question -- apologies -- but I'm having no luck from
the web. The ConTeXt wiki isn't turning up anything, and the pragma  
site
seems to be broken, so I can't access the ConTeXt manual. So:

What are the commands in ConTeXt to get angled braces, i.e. `' and  
''?
I've got is \langle and \rangle respectively, but these aren't  
resulting
in output -- the dvi has nothing where they should be - foo bar foo
instead of foo bar foo. Using the braces themselves, eg

\starttext
foo bar foo
\stoptext

gives me upside-down exclamation and question marks, for left and  
right
braces respectively.

Thanks for any help.

-Steven
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Re: [NTG-context] Angle braces?

2006-06-09 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On 6/10/06, Steven Robertson wrote:
 Hi Matthias, thanks for your reply.

 The angle braces I'm after are the ones that go around URLs in
 citations, as in

 [12] Smith, `Article on Things', available at www.smith.com.

 It's been suggested to me elsewhere that I upgrade my ConTeXt version,
 so hopefully that will help.

Well ... if it's more than two months old, it might already be ancient ;)
Also consider updating the fonts.

Why are you using dvi instead of PDF?

 I'll have a look around and see if there
 are particular angle braces that should be used for the above purpose
 (i.e. not greater-than/less-than or guillemots--they are `double', but
 Ithe suggestion is appreciated).

The example works OK here. Which font are you using? Most probably
either the font is old/broken or the two characters are active.

What do you get if you type:
foo \char60 bar\char62 foo?
(You may never type like that, but just for debugging puposes.)

Mojca

Btw: there are two mirrors of Pragma website (see links on
wiki.contextgarden.net).
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[NTG-context] Angle braces?

2006-06-08 Thread Steven Robertson
Hi,

Annoyingly simple question -- apologies -- but I'm having no luck from
the web. The ConTeXt wiki isn't turning up anything, and the pragma site
seems to be broken, so I can't access the ConTeXt manual. So:

What are the commands in ConTeXt to get angled braces, i.e. `' and ''?
I've got is \langle and \rangle respectively, but these aren't resulting
in output -- the dvi has nothing where they should be - foo bar foo
instead of foo bar foo. Using the braces themselves, eg

\starttext
foo bar foo
\stoptext

gives me upside-down exclamation and question marks, for left and right
braces respectively.

Thanks for any help.

-Steven
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Re: [NTG-context] Angle braces?

2006-06-08 Thread Matthias Weber
Hi,

this depends -- different fonts contain different kinds of 'angle  
braces',
depending on their purpose. Do you want them for (french style)
quotations, or for typesetting math?

The following is a set of examples -- they might look very different
with other fonts.

Matthias


(\langle and \rangle is math mode only I believe)

\setuplanguage [en] [rightquote=\rightguillemot,leftquote= 
\leftguillemot]


\starttext

foo \leftguillemot bar\rightguillemot{} foo
\leftsubguillemot bar\rightsubguillemot{}
foo $\langle \text{bar}\rangle$ foo.


foo \quote{bar} foo
\stoptext


On Jun 7, 2006, at 3:35 AM, Steven Robertson wrote:

 Hi,

 Annoyingly simple question -- apologies -- but I'm having no luck from
 the web. The ConTeXt wiki isn't turning up anything, and the pragma  
 site
 seems to be broken, so I can't access the ConTeXt manual. So:

 What are the commands in ConTeXt to get angled braces, i.e. `' and  
 ''?
 I've got is \langle and \rangle respectively, but these aren't  
 resulting
 in output -- the dvi has nothing where they should be - foo bar foo
 instead of foo bar foo. Using the braces themselves, eg

 \starttext
 foo bar foo
 \stoptext

 gives me upside-down exclamation and question marks, for left and  
 right
 braces respectively.

 Thanks for any help.

 -Steven
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