Re: [NTG-context] Angle braces?
Mojca Miklavec wrote: On 6/10/06, Steven Robertson wrote: Hi Mojca, It is more than two months old; the tetex i'm using is version 2.0.2 or somesuch. So an upgrade is definitely due. Well, if you want to say that texexec --version (now ctxtools --contextversion) returns something around 2002, please don't ever try to mention that on this list if you want to stay alive ;) Thanks for the safety tip :) Best download justtext.zip and linuxtex.zip from www.pragma-ade.com, extract them to some folder of your choice and execute . setuptex in your .bashrc. And then do ctxtools --update every tho weeks ;) teTeX isn't maintaind any more. And thanks for these two tips too. I've since sorted out the original angles problem by explicitly loading a font - which I think to do otherwise, since the default worked for the most part. Thanks for the help, -Steven Mojca ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Angle braces?
Hi Mojca, It is more than two months old; the tetex i'm using is version 2.0.2 or somesuch. So an upgrade is definitely due. On the dvi v pdf question, I'm a bit confused, because I didn't mention my actual output format. I have actually been outputting things as dvi for reading on my computer, but printing pdfs. The same problems have been occurring in both formats, but I might be missing the point of your question here. Using \char60 and \char62 gives the same results as using the characters and in the text, which is are upside down question mark and explanation mark (which I can't easily type into this email to demonstrate). I will have a try at updating the fonts, and failing that, the whole tetex system. Thanks for the tip on the mirrors, and the help. -Steven [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The angle braces I'm after are the ones that go around URLs in citations, as in [12] Smith, `Article on Things', available at www.smith.com. It's been suggested to me elsewhere that I upgrade my ConTeXt version, so hopefully that will help. Well ... if it's more than two months old, it might already be ancient ;) Also consider updating the fonts. Why are you using dvi instead of PDF? I'll have a look around and see if there are particular angle braces that should be used for the above purpose (i.e. not greater-than/less-than or guillemots--they are `double', but Ithe suggestion is appreciated). The example works OK here. Which font are you using? Most probably either the font is old/broken or the two characters are active. What do you get if you type: foo \char60 bar\char62 foo? (You may never type like that, but just for debugging puposes.) Mojca Btw: there are two mirrors of Pragma website (see links on wiki.contextgarden.net). ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Angle braces?
On 6/10/06, Steven Robertson wrote: Hi Mojca, It is more than two months old; the tetex i'm using is version 2.0.2 or somesuch. So an upgrade is definitely due. Well, if you want to say that texexec --version (now ctxtools --contextversion) returns something around 2002, please don't ever try to mention that on this list if you want to stay alive ;) Best download justtext.zip and linuxtex.zip from www.pragma-ade.com, extract them to some folder of your choice and execute . setuptex in your .bashrc. And then do ctxtools --update every tho weeks ;) teTeX isn't maintaind any more. Mojca ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Angle braces?
Hi Matthias, thanks for your reply. The angle braces I'm after are the ones that go around URLs in citations, as in [12] Smith, `Article on Things', available at www.smith.com. It's been suggested to me elsewhere that I upgrade my ConTeXt version, so hopefully that will help. I'll have a look around and see if there are particular angle braces that should be used for the above purpose (i.e. not greater-than/less-than or guillemots--they are `double', but Ithe suggestion is appreciated). Thanks, Steven Matthias Weber wrote: Hi, this depends -- different fonts contain different kinds of 'angle braces', depending on their purpose. Do you want them for (french style) quotations, or for typesetting math? The following is a set of examples -- they might look very different with other fonts. Matthias (\langle and \rangle is math mode only I believe) \setuplanguage [en] [rightquote=\rightguillemot,leftquote= \leftguillemot] \starttext foo \leftguillemot bar\rightguillemot{} foo \leftsubguillemot bar\rightsubguillemot{} foo $\langle \text{bar}\rangle$ foo. foo \quote{bar} foo \stoptext On Jun 7, 2006, at 3:35 AM, Steven Robertson wrote: Hi, Annoyingly simple question -- apologies -- but I'm having no luck from the web. The ConTeXt wiki isn't turning up anything, and the pragma site seems to be broken, so I can't access the ConTeXt manual. So: What are the commands in ConTeXt to get angled braces, i.e. `' and ''? I've got is \langle and \rangle respectively, but these aren't resulting in output -- the dvi has nothing where they should be - foo bar foo instead of foo bar foo. Using the braces themselves, eg \starttext foo bar foo \stoptext gives me upside-down exclamation and question marks, for left and right braces respectively. Thanks for any help. -Steven ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Angle braces?
On 6/10/06, Steven Robertson wrote: Hi Matthias, thanks for your reply. The angle braces I'm after are the ones that go around URLs in citations, as in [12] Smith, `Article on Things', available at www.smith.com. It's been suggested to me elsewhere that I upgrade my ConTeXt version, so hopefully that will help. Well ... if it's more than two months old, it might already be ancient ;) Also consider updating the fonts. Why are you using dvi instead of PDF? I'll have a look around and see if there are particular angle braces that should be used for the above purpose (i.e. not greater-than/less-than or guillemots--they are `double', but Ithe suggestion is appreciated). The example works OK here. Which font are you using? Most probably either the font is old/broken or the two characters are active. What do you get if you type: foo \char60 bar\char62 foo? (You may never type like that, but just for debugging puposes.) Mojca Btw: there are two mirrors of Pragma website (see links on wiki.contextgarden.net). ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] Angle braces?
Hi, Annoyingly simple question -- apologies -- but I'm having no luck from the web. The ConTeXt wiki isn't turning up anything, and the pragma site seems to be broken, so I can't access the ConTeXt manual. So: What are the commands in ConTeXt to get angled braces, i.e. `' and ''? I've got is \langle and \rangle respectively, but these aren't resulting in output -- the dvi has nothing where they should be - foo bar foo instead of foo bar foo. Using the braces themselves, eg \starttext foo bar foo \stoptext gives me upside-down exclamation and question marks, for left and right braces respectively. Thanks for any help. -Steven ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Angle braces?
Hi, this depends -- different fonts contain different kinds of 'angle braces', depending on their purpose. Do you want them for (french style) quotations, or for typesetting math? The following is a set of examples -- they might look very different with other fonts. Matthias (\langle and \rangle is math mode only I believe) \setuplanguage [en] [rightquote=\rightguillemot,leftquote= \leftguillemot] \starttext foo \leftguillemot bar\rightguillemot{} foo \leftsubguillemot bar\rightsubguillemot{} foo $\langle \text{bar}\rangle$ foo. foo \quote{bar} foo \stoptext On Jun 7, 2006, at 3:35 AM, Steven Robertson wrote: Hi, Annoyingly simple question -- apologies -- but I'm having no luck from the web. The ConTeXt wiki isn't turning up anything, and the pragma site seems to be broken, so I can't access the ConTeXt manual. So: What are the commands in ConTeXt to get angled braces, i.e. `' and ''? I've got is \langle and \rangle respectively, but these aren't resulting in output -- the dvi has nothing where they should be - foo bar foo instead of foo bar foo. Using the braces themselves, eg \starttext foo bar foo \stoptext gives me upside-down exclamation and question marks, for left and right braces respectively. Thanks for any help. -Steven ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context