[NTG-context] Bibliographies in MkIV
Hi all,
I'm unable to get the andtext option to \setupsite working. According to the
old bib module manual, it should control the separation between two authors.
Thus the following:
\setupbibtex[database=sample,sort=author]
\setuppublications[alternative=num]
\setupcite[left=(,right=),inbetween={,},andsep={,}]
\starttext
This is a test of the context citation module in
MkIV\cite[hh2010a,Eijkhout1991].
\placepublications[criterium=text]
\stoptext
using the following sample.bib
@ARTICLE{hh2010a,
author = hh,
title = {The Font Name Mess},
journal = {MAPS},
year = {2010},
volume = {40},
pages = {2-8},
keywords = {context},
}
@BOOK{Eijkhout1991,
title = {\TeX\ by Topic. A \TeX nician's Reference},
publisher = {Addison-Wesley},
year = {1991},
author = {Victor Eijkhout},
address = {London},
keywords = {general},
}
Should produce in the output (1,2) but instead produces (1 and 2).
Is there a quick fix?
Regards.
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Re: [NTG-context] Bibliographies in mkiv - announcement and WARNING!
On 3/11/2015 9:50 AM, Robert Blackstone wrote: On 9 Mar 2015, at 21:28 , Alan BRASLAU alan.bras...@cea.fr mailto:alan.bras...@cea.fr ANNOUNCEMENT We introduced into the core of MKIV a dataset subsystem, not necessarily limited to the generation of bibliographic lists. This new subsystem has been part of the distribution for some time and an early first draft of its documentation had been made available. After putting the new system to heavy use in a real, bibliographic-intensive book project, and after much fighting back-and-forth over specifications and design choices, the upcoming beta standalone distribution will finally contain this completely revamped subsystem. Hans and Alan (also with the help of Thomas and Luigi). Hi Alan and Hans, Maybe it is a bit early to ask questions already about this new bibliography tool. But it really interests me and I do need it. First of all, I compiled the ME and added a number of my own .bib entries and they all came out well. It looks as if I can just continue use my existing BibTex database in the new system and continue using BibDesk for new items, which is a very good thing. No need to generate .bbl’s separately. (Though I hope that ConTeXt will keep the possibility to process .bbl’s as before.) you can load a bbl file and it will be converted into the internal format and can then be used, assuming the bbl is sane My questions are: 1 The ME contains no setup, no indication of a particular Bibliography style. What comes out in the ME looks like apa. Are there style files connected with this system? If so are they accessible for tweaking (I need some rather uncommon Bibliography style, sort of apa-like but different in many details)? You need to load apa explicitly but there are some simple defaults for article, book and a few more. When you roll out you rown you can do two things (will b eexplained in manual): - copy the 'apa' files to 'foo' files - replace all apa by foo - tweak - use foo or - define a new one foo - that defaults to apa - and only implment changes (with foo setups) 2 The \cite-command turns out just some number in square brackets, no info on what is cited. Is that a bug? - it's the default cite rendering 3 In the old system I used \dcite[key] for footnotes but \dcite is not recognized now. Is there another way? we are unware of such footnote commands but we do provide mathods to construct registers and such upto Alan to explain more Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Bibliographies in mkiv - announcement and WARNING!
On 9 Mar 2015, at 21:28 , Alan BRASLAU alan.bras...@cea.fr ANNOUNCEMENT We introduced into the core of MKIV a dataset subsystem, not necessarily limited to the generation of bibliographic lists. This new subsystem has been part of the distribution for some time and an early first draft of its documentation had been made available. After putting the new system to heavy use in a real, bibliographic-intensive book project, and after much fighting back-and-forth over specifications and design choices, the upcoming beta standalone distribution will finally contain this completely revamped subsystem. Hans and Alan (also with the help of Thomas and Luigi). Hi Alan and Hans, Maybe it is a bit early to ask questions already about this new bibliography tool. But it really interests me and I do need it. First of all, I compiled the ME and added a number of my own .bib entries and they all came out well. It looks as if I can just continue use my existing BibTex database in the new system and continue using BibDesk for new items, which is a very good thing. No need to generate .bbl’s separately. (Though I hope that ConTeXt will keep the possibility to process .bbl’s as before.) My questions are: 1 The ME contains no setup, no indication of a particular Bibliography style. What comes out in the ME looks like apa. Are there style files connected with this system? If so are they accessible for tweaking (I need some rather uncommon Bibliography style, sort of apa-like but different in many details)? 2 The \cite-command turns out just some number in square brackets, no info on what is cited. Is that a bug? 3 In the old system I used \dcite[key] for footnotes but \dcite is not recognized now. Is there another way? Best regards, Robert Blackstone ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Bibliographies in mkiv - announcement and WARNING!
ANNOUNCEMENT
The MKII bibliography module (\usemodule[bib]), described in
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Bibliography
has undergone, first a re-write, keeping up with MKIV, then a complete
re-conception of the handling of bibliographies.
We introduced into the core of MKIV a dataset subsystem, not
necessarily limited to the generation of bibliographic lists. This new
subsystem has been part of the distribution for some time and an early
first draft of its documentation had been made available.
After putting the new system to heavy use in a real,
bibliographic-intensive book project, and after much fighting
back-and-forth over specifications and design choices, the upcoming
beta standalone distribution will finally contain this completely
revamped subsystem. Note that it is not yet complete, but has been
stabilized enough to make this revision available. The rewritten
documentation is not quite ready yet either, but a completely rewritten
new draft will be made available in a very short time. We promise!
* WARNING *
As details of the interface have changed and the documentation is not
quite there yet, do not attempt to use this for any serious project for
the moment. And if you are presently using the pre-beta version of the
new subsystem that has been distributed with the standalone,
DO NOT UPDATE your standalone unless you are prepared to see some
changes.
Hans and Alan (also with the help of Thomas and Luigi).
MWE
Below is a minimal working example:
\startbuffer [test]
@Article{article,
Title= {Article title},
Author = {ArticleLastnameA, FirstnameA}
# { and ArticleLastnameB, FirstnameB}
# { and ArticleLastnameC, FirstnameC}
# { and ArticleLastnameD, FirstnameD}
# { and ArticleLastnameE, FirstnameE}
# { and ArticleLastnameF, FirstnameF}
# { and ArticleLastnameG, FirstnameG},
Journal = {Journal name},
Year = {},
Note = {note...},
Number = {number},
Pages= {ff--tt},
Volume = {volume},
Doi = {doi|-|specification},
Keywords = {keyword1; keyword2; keyword3},
}
@Book{book,
Title= {Book title},
Title= {Title2},
Author = {BookAuthorLastnameA, Firstname
and BookAuthorLastnameB, Firstname Middle
and BookAuthorLastnameC, Firstname-Combined},
Editor = {EditorLastname, Firstname},
Editor = {EditorLastname2, Firstname},
Publisher= {Publisher},
Year = {},
Address = {Address},
Edition = {edition},
Keywords = {book},
}
\stopbuffer
\usebtxdataset[test.buffer]
\starttext
\cite[article,book]
\startbackmatter
\startchapter[title=Bibliography]
\placelistofpublications
\stopchapter
\stopbackmatter
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] Bibliographies in mkiv - announcement and WARNING!
On 3/9/2015 6:47 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote: On 03/09/2015 03:14 PM, Alan BRASLAU wrote: * WARNING * As details of the interface have changed and the documentation is not quite there yet, do not attempt to use this for any serious project for the moment. And if you are presently using the pre-beta version of the new subsystem that has been distributed with the standalone, DO NOT UPDATE your standalone unless you are prepared to see some changes. Hi Alan, I guess the changes only affect to the bibliography subsystem. I mean, if bibliographies aren’t used, updating to the new beta would be as risky as any other update, wouldn’t it? no, but as there has been some additions to other modules we need to beta in order to stay in sync .. it's not different from other betas apart from a change in the way one sets up a bibliography which can affect some users (no big deal once it's known how, hopefully easier) the bibliographic subsystem itself is a complex thing using several other subsystems and it operates on multiple axis at the same time (datasets, renderings, lists, citations, standards like apa, fallbacks, clever searching, sorting, tracing, user control, etc) so it took some time (and a couple of test implementations) to see what way to set it up works best (it has to fit into the context way of doing); also we implemented a rather complete apa spec as test but the aps setup is not yet updated - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
