[NTG-context] Color Separation with external figures and spot colors

2005-11-16 Thread Pearson, Mark (Capita Symonds)
Hi All,

Does anyone know if/how I can take a grayscale JPG external
figure and assign it to a spot colour channel.

The Color Separation manual gives the following example:

\externalfigure[graphic][split=c]

for assigning such an image to the Cyan channel but I want
to say something like:

\definecolor
[Spot1]
[c=1,m=.05,y=0,k=.47,e=PANTONE 308 CV]

\definecolor
[Spot2]
[c=.69,m=.07,y=0,k=0,e=PANTONE 298 CV]
.
.

\externalfigure[graphic][split=Spot1]

Is this possible?

Thanks in advance for any help anyone can offer :)

Mark Pearson.


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Re: [NTG-context] Color separation

2005-03-18 Thread Hans Hagen
Duncan Hothersall wrote:
2. is there a way I can check that it is working properly without
sending it to the printer each time?

Acrobat has an overprint preview since v5; AFAIK Reader got it in v7.

Yes... but it doesn't show up any problem. (Well, it just displays the 
same thing with overprint preview as without.) *But* in Acrobat 
Professional 7, doing a preflight check for CMYK+Spot output, it 
complains about overprint = off on all the text on tints. So I guess 
there is a problem in some way? This is why I am confused.
hm, i don't have the full acrobat 7 (only 6)

Hans
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[NTG-context] Color separation

2005-03-17 Thread Duncan Hothersall
Sorry for all the messages; I am exploring things I don't really 
understand. I hope someone can enlighten me!

With the following colour set-up:
\setupcolors[rgb=no,cmyk=yes,spot=yes,state=start]
\definecolor[PantoneTwoNineFour][c=1,m=.56,y=0,k=.18]
\definecolor[IFSbluetabletint][PantoneTwoNineFour][p=.15]
and then using this tint as a textbackground and also as a 
backgroundcolor in frames, I am getting complaints from my printers that 
black overprinted on the tint is 'knocking out' the tint and leaving 
white on the separated plate.

I have read and re-read the useful msplit.pdf which suggests that the 
implicit criterium=all will negate this effect, but perhaps I have 
misunderstood?

Two questions:
1. how can I stop black overprinting from knocking out the tint, and
2. is there a way I can check that it is working properly without 
sending it to the printer each time?

Thanks as ever for any help. Do I need to post example output?
Duncan
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Re: [NTG-context] Color separation

2005-03-17 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 17.03.2005 um 15:35 schrieb Duncan Hothersall:
2. is there a way I can check that it is working properly without 
sending it to the printer each time?
Acrobat has an overprint preview since v5; AFAIK Reader got it in v7.
Grüßlis vom Hraban!
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Re: [NTG-context] Color separation

2005-03-17 Thread Hans Hagen
Duncan Hothersall wrote:
Sorry for all the messages; I am exploring things I don't really 
understand. I hope someone can enlighten me!

With the following colour set-up:
\setupcolors[rgb=no,cmyk=yes,spot=yes,state=start]
\definecolor[PantoneTwoNineFour][c=1,m=.56,y=0,k=.18]
\definecolor[IFSbluetabletint][PantoneTwoNineFour][p=.15]
and then using this tint as a textbackground and also as a 
backgroundcolor in frames, I am getting complaints from my printers that 
black overprinted on the tint is 'knocking out' the tint and leaving 
white on the separated plate.

I have read and re-read the useful msplit.pdf which suggests that the 
implicit criterium=all will negate this effect, but perhaps I have 
misunderstood?

Two questions:
1. how can I stop black overprinting from knocking out the tint, and
2. is there a way I can check that it is working properly without 
sending it to the printer each time?

Thanks as ever for any help. Do I need to post example output?
whow, a demanding color user -)
see mag-0006.pdf for more info on properties
\setupcolors[state=start,textcolor=cyan,overprint=yes]
\setupbackgrounds[page][background=color,backgroundcolor=magenta]
\starttext
\input tufte
\startproperty[knockout]\input tufte\stopproperty
\startproperty[overprint]\input tufte\stopproperty
\input tufte
\stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] Color separation

2005-03-17 Thread Duncan Hothersall
2. is there a way I can check that it is working properly without
sending it to the printer each time?
Acrobat has an overprint preview since v5; AFAIK Reader got it in v7.
Yes... but it doesn't show up any problem. (Well, it just displays the 
same thing with overprint preview as without.) *But* in Acrobat 
Professional 7, doing a preflight check for CMYK+Spot output, it 
complains about overprint = off on all the text on tints. So I guess 
there is a problem in some way? This is why I am confused.

Knowing what ConTeXt incantations *should* make it work would be a 
start, and then I can tell the printer that they have to fix it! :-)

Duncan
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Re: [NTG-context] Color separation

2005-03-17 Thread Duncan Hothersall
whow, a demanding color user -)
...
overprint=yes
...
Aaaah. Thanks you so very much Hans. Of course, as ever, the answer is a 
single setting which solves all my problems.

Off to add this gold to the wiki...
Duncan
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