[NTG-context] Command for printing back of book index.

2014-05-26 Thread john Culleton

In the current General Manual section 12.7
Registers the command for actually printing the
back of book index is omitted. What is it? Is it
the same for both MKII and MKIV? 

Does one run the command texutil separate from
the context command (analogous to running the
makeindex command in other versions of TeX)?

I can create an index separate from context using
a front end to makeindex that I wrote years ago
but I prefer an embedded index.
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Re: [NTG-context] Command for printing back of book index.

2014-05-26 Thread Hans Hagen

On 5/26/2014 6:07 PM, john Culleton wrote:


In the current General Manual section 12.7
Registers the command for actually printing the
back of book index is omitted. What is it? Is it
the same for both MKII and MKIV?

Does one run the command texutil separate from
the context command (analogous to running the
makeindex command in other versions of TeX)?

I can create an index separate from context using
a front end to makeindex that I wrote years ago
but I prefer an embedded index.


producing an (sorted) index has always been integrated

- in mkii texexec handles it (using texutil for all multi-pass pre- 
processing); the use never had to run texutil him/herself; in fact, i 
once made a replacement in Lua so that we could avoid ruby but never 
finished it read: had time to finish it


- in mkiv sorting the index is done internally

there has never been a reason for using something makeindex

Hans

ps. texutil itself went from modula-2 to perl to ruby ... so it's a real 
ancient part of context


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Re: [NTG-context] Command for printing back of book index.

2014-05-26 Thread john Culleton
On Mon, 26 May 2014 19:15:48 +0200
Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:

 On 5/26/2014 6:07 PM, john Culleton wrote:
 
  In the current General Manual section 12.7
  Registers the command for actually printing
  the back of book index is omitted. What is
  it? Is it the same for both MKII and MKIV?
 
  Does one run the command texutil separate from
  the context command (analogous to running the
  makeindex command in other versions of TeX)?
 
  I can create an index separate from context
  using a front end to makeindex that I wrote
  years ago but I prefer an embedded index.
 
 producing an (sorted) index has always been
 integrated
 
 - in mkii texexec handles it (using texutil for
 all multi-pass pre- processing); the use never
 had to run texutil him/herself; in fact, i once
 made a replacement in Lua so that we could
 avoid ruby but never finished it read: had time
 to finish it
 
 - in mkiv sorting the index is done internally
 
 there has never been a reason for using
 something makeindex
 
 Hans
 
 ps. texutil itself went from modula-2 to perl
 to ruby ... so it's a real ancient part of
 context
 

Thanks. Now, what is the command to be placed at
the back of the file to print the index? Section
12.7 just has a blank line after
 
A register is generated and placed in your
document with

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Re: [NTG-context] Command for printing back of book index.

2014-05-26 Thread Hans Hagen

On 5/26/2014 10:31 PM, john Culleton wrote:

On Mon, 26 May 2014 19:15:48 +0200
Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:


On 5/26/2014 6:07 PM, john Culleton wrote:


In the current General Manual section 12.7
Registers the command for actually printing
the back of book index is omitted. What is
it? Is it the same for both MKII and MKIV?

Does one run the command texutil separate from
the context command (analogous to running the
makeindex command in other versions of TeX)?

I can create an index separate from context
using a front end to makeindex that I wrote
years ago but I prefer an embedded index.


producing an (sorted) index has always been
integrated

- in mkii texexec handles it (using texutil for
all multi-pass pre- processing); the use never
had to run texutil him/herself; in fact, i once
made a replacement in Lua so that we could
avoid ruby but never finished it read: had time
to finish it

- in mkiv sorting the index is done internally

there has never been a reason for using
something makeindex

Hans

ps. texutil itself went from modula-2 to perl
to ruby ... so it's a real ancient part of
context



Thanks. Now, what is the command to be placed at
the back of the file to print the index? Section
12.7 just has a blank line after

A register is generated and placed in your
document with


did you consult the wiki?

http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Registers


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Re: [NTG-context] Command for printing back of book index.

2014-05-26 Thread john Culleton
On Mon, 26 May 2014 22:41:41 +0200
Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:

 On 5/26/2014 10:31 PM, john Culleton wrote:
  On Mon, 26 May 2014 19:15:48 +0200
  Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:
 
  On 5/26/2014 6:07 PM, john Culleton wrote:
 
  In the current General Manual section 12.7
  Registers the command for actually
  printing the back of book index is omitted.
  What is it? Is it the same for both MKII
  and MKIV?
 
  Does one run the command texutil separate
  from the context command (analogous to
  running the makeindex command in other
  versions of TeX)?
 
  I can create an index separate from context
  using a front end to makeindex that I wrote
  years ago but I prefer an embedded index.
 
  producing an (sorted) index has always been
  integrated
 
  - in mkii texexec handles it (using texutil
  for all multi-pass pre- processing); the use
  never had to run texutil him/herself; in
  fact, i once made a replacement in Lua so
  that we could avoid ruby but never finished
  it read: had time to finish it
 
  - in mkiv sorting the index is done
  internally
 
  there has never been a reason for using
  something makeindex
 
  Hans
 
  ps. texutil itself went from modula-2 to perl
  to ruby ... so it's a real ancient part of
  context
 
 
  Thanks. Now, what is the command to be placed
  at the back of the file to print the index?
  Section 12.7 just has a blank line after
 
  A register is generated and placed in your
  document with
 
 did you consult the wiki?
 
 http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Registers
 
 

I finally traced it down in the wiki. I was first
looking under index and not finding the answer.
My American mind didn't think to look under 
Register. That's not what we call a back of
book index. So thanks for the pointer.

But it would be useful also to correct the manual.
Neither section 12.7 nor the list of commands in
the back mention \completeregister nor
\placeregister as the means to create a back of
the book index.

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