Re: [NTG-context] Manual (English) Update soon?
Am 2006-12-30 um 10:28 schrieb Douglas Philips: Arg. My bane. Fonts. The one thing that pulls me ever so slightly to using Pages... Not because I want a garish mix of goofball junk fonts, but because I love Palatino for newletters and Papyrus for cards and short notes... I figured out how to get Palatino into LaTeX, but use other programs (so far) to get Papyrus... Using Palatino with ConTeXt is no problem (it used to be URW Palladio and is TeX Gyre Pagella nowadays, which contains a lot of more glyphs than any original Palatino). If you can't figure it out (it's no beginner's task), I'll write the Papyrus files for you. BTW, there are some ConTeXt font packages on my homepage, but I can't remember of all of them are up to date... Have a look at http://wiki.contextgarden.net/TypeScripts and http://www.fiee.net/texnique/?menu=0-1-4lang=en Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://contextgarden.net http://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Manual (English) Update soon?
On 2006 Dec 29, at 12:38 PM, plink indited: Mojca Miklavec wrote: Well, the ConTeXt manual is one of the most stable components of ConTeXt indeed ;) ;-) should be wikified ... Probably, but it'd be sad to lose the ability to download and print it for offline reading (I may be in a small minority of people who like to read reference manuals though)... I'm also not familiar enough with the wiki being used to know if there is anyway for it to agregate a bunch of pages into a reasonably printable form --Doug ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Manual (English) Update soon?
On 2006 Dec 29, at 2:22 PM, andrea valle indited: Well, maybe I'm missing something. But if you need to use ConTeXt on a mac you can use Gerben's distro, which also set up a crontab for you, and when you update it simply does all the boring stuff for you (I hate TeX tree structure ...) Gerben has announced end-of-life for his distro system. Well, end of support... except for ConTeXt because of the automation that ConTeXt provides for his packaging needs. Perhaps that would play well with TeX Live '06... --Doug ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Manual (English) Update soon?
On 2006 Dec 29, at 10:04 PM, Mojca Miklavec indited: On 12/29/06, Douglas Philips wrote: The undocumented features are documented in My Ways? :-) Esp. the two MyWay's written by the author who mentioned that ;) :-) I see you also have one... all of which are next up on my Sunday afternoon reading! See http://wiki.contextgarden.net/My_Way Thanks! Most other MyWay's deal with fonts. Arg. My bane. Fonts. The one thing that pulls me ever so slightly to using Pages... Not because I want a garish mix of goofball junk fonts, but because I love Palatino for newletters and Papyrus for cards and short notes... I figured out how to get Palatino into LaTeX, but use other programs (so far) to get Papyrus... I found a few of those also, and it is very confusing to a newbie (such as myself) to figure out what is old and valid and what is old and not-so-valid... I don't have a good overview, but I don't know that many not-so-valid things. Thanks, that is good to know... Old things are still valid, there might only be some new things that you might not know about once you've read the manual. (plain) TeX is about 25 and still valid. Only that there are a few commands available out there which can simplify things. The more I look into it, the more I feel that ConTeXt is going in a direction more helpful to me than LaTeX. No comment intended on the correctness of either direction, just on the harmony with where I am going. --Doug ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Manual (English) Update soon?
On 2006 Dec 30, at 12:47 AM, Sanjoy Mahajan indited: So, I've been contemplating whether I should move up the abstraction ladder to ConTeXt or down to plain TeX and really learn to build the world from boxes and glue. :-) I wrote my dissertation using plain TeX plus eplain, ... I got tired of maintaining and improving the macro hackery, so I decided to leap over LaTeX to ConTeXt. Yes, that is an issue. As was pointed out earlier in this thread, 'packages' tend to lose support once they're released, so ConTeXt at least has a coherent architecture which, gathering from what I've read on this list, counteracts that. Here is a hello-world template that I just wrote. It contains many of the ConTeXt commands that I use most frequently. Cool, thank you! Another sunday after noon (as in 18 hours from now) project! --Doug ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Manual (English) Update soon?
On 30. des. 2006, at 6:47, Sanjoy Mahajan wrote: \setupindenting[medium, yes] ConTeXt seems to choke on the yes here. -- Rolf Lindgren [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Manual (English) Update soon?
Rolf Lindgren writes: \setupindenting[medium, yes] ConTeXt seems to choke on the yes here. Hmm, texshow says lists 'yes' and 'medium' as valid keywords. What ConTeXt version are you using? Can you post the error log? I had no problems running the whole hello-world file through the 2006.12.27 ConTeXt (Linux, i386). -Sanjoy `Not all those who wander are lost.' (J.R.R. Tolkien) ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Manual (English) Update soon?
On 2006 Dec 28, at 7:43 PM, Mojca Miklavec indited:
Well, the ConTeXt manual is one of the most stable components of
ConTeXt indeed ;)
:-)
But consider it from the bright side:
yes, it's still fully usable (after two years of using ConTeXt it's
still hard to do anything without using it), everything mentioned
there should still work (unless there has been some bug introduced in
the mean time) and the major functionality has been there at that
time already.
Thanks, that is reassuring to hear.
That's surely no excuse for not refreshing the manual, but there's no
excuse for not sharing your experience on the wiki or web version of
texshow either.
:-) Keeping the manuals up to date is hard work, which is a lot of
why there is a push (in general) to have source generated docs, but
that isn't easy either... I know.
not to mention the changes in base LaTeX (documentstyle -
documentclass{article} - Komma script) and the fact that most
packages become unmaintained after they have been written.
True. And the worst part of it (having used LaTeX, and still on the
precipice of using ConTeXt) is the incompatibilities and the lack of
ok, so which of these packages works with which others? annoyance
(which oft becomes frustration).
And so I am wondering if ConTeXt is still too fresh...
It's always full of surprizes. But what do you mean with too fresh?
If you're worried that your colleagues don't have the latest version
of ConTeXt installed (and thus won't be able to compile your code)
then you're probably right. (But if you want to use the latest packeg
from LaTeX, there's even more chance that they won't have it. In
ConTeXt you know at least that downloading one thing should suffice.)
Fair enough. I'm not sure, however, how that all plays out when it
comes to using something like TeXLive (on a Mac, as if that matters)
and the meta-issue of keeping a working TeX install coherent (and
working)...
Take it from the bright side: even if you were on the list, you
wouldn't have time to follow it unless you were a student ;)
:-) !!!
And take it from the bright side again: tetex on most linux
distributions is just as old as the manual, so you wouldn't be
missing much ;)
Well, that is an interesting argument. Fortunately my TeX and LaTeX
usage has been such that I haven't run into a lot of bugs, so the
drumbeat of upgrade-upgrade-upgrade-upgrade has been too soft to
hear. Usually what drives a change is wanting to use a layout which
doesn't fit the LaTeX direction. I don't make books or academic
papers, so I'm not in the center of the fairway, heck, I'm not even
in the weeds, I'm in a bowling alley! :-)
In my opinion It makes no sense to wait for solar-energy car before
you start doing your driver's licence. Unless you intend to design or
produce cars, you shouldn't even notice the difference.
Thanks I deeply wish to not notice the difference!
--Doug
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Re: [NTG-context] Manual (English) Update soon?
On 2006 Dec 28, at 5:00 PM, Aditya Mahajan indited: On Thu, 28 Dec 2006, Douglas Philips wrote: cont-eni.pdf (ConTeXt the manual by Hans Hagen, November 12th, 2001). That is the most up to date manual and should get you started for most of the basic features. The features that are not in the manual are mostly related to specific needs, so you can get around even if you do not know about them. Some My Ways discuss some of these undocumented features. The undocumented features are documented in My Ways? :-) I found a few of those also, and it is very confusing to a newbie (such as myself) to figure out what is old and valid and what is old and not-so-valid... Just give it a shot. The is Latex in proper context by Berend de Boer which can help in the transition. The general information on http://wiki.contextgarden.net/From_LaTeX_to_ConTeXt is also useful. Cool, thanks! Context is very stable, and much better documented than latex. You can start with small documents in context to get comfortable with it. The best documents to start are those where you do not have a strict formatting requirement, so that you do not need to worry if you can not get something working. :-) That would be ideal. However, I'm looking to change horses because the documents I am already producing (newsletters for local groups (all volunteer)) are straining at what LaTeX wants me to do. So, I've been contemplating whether I should move up the abstraction ladder to ConTeXt or down to plain TeX and really learn to build the world from boxes and glue. :-) I'd rather move up. :-) :-) (IIRC, Hans is also a core team member of LuaTeX, so perhaps I should just suck it up with LaTeX until LuaTeX is viable?) LuaTeX is not a replacement for LaTeX. It is a replacement for pdfTeX. ... pending feature requests getting implemented. So, if you are planning on switching to context, there is no real need to wait for luatex. OK. Wasn't sure... HTH, Aditya Yes, it did/does, thank you! --Doug ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Manual (English) Update soon?
Mojca Miklavec wrote: Well, the ConTeXt manual is one of the most stable components of ConTeXt indeed ;) ;-) should be wikified ... (IIRC, Hans is also a core team member of LuaTeX, so perhaps I should just suck it up with LaTeX until LuaTeX is viable?) No reason for, as Aditya already mentioned. Except if you need some more processing of the TeX contents, like some people do :-( In that case, since the mkiv stuff isn't available, currently you either have to switch to plain luatex or to use ConTeXt with pdftex and maybe weave another layer of ruby around the script onion that texexec had become. Both ways don't really come close to the zen of ConTeXt TeXnology, I would assume. ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Manual (English) Update soon?
Well, maybe I'm missing something. But if you need to use ConTeXt on a mac you can use Gerben's distro, which also set up a crontab for you, and when you update it simply does all the boring stuff for you (I hate TeX tree structure ...) http://ii2.sourceforge.net/tex-index.html Best -a- Fair enough. I'm not sure, however, how that all plays out when it comes to using something like TeXLive (on a Mac, as if that matters) and the meta-issue of keeping a working TeX install coherent (and working)... Andrea Valle DAMS - Facoltà di Scienze della Formazione Università degli Studi di Torino http://www.semiotiche.it/andrea [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Manual (English) Update soon?
On 12/29/06, Douglas Philips wrote:
On 2006 Dec 28, at 5:00 PM, Aditya Mahajan indited:
On Thu, 28 Dec 2006, Douglas Philips wrote:
cont-eni.pdf (ConTeXt the manual by Hans Hagen, November 12th, 2001).
That is the most up to date manual and should get you started for most
of the basic features. The features that are not in the manual are
mostly related to specific needs, so you can get around even if you do
not know about them. Some My Ways discuss some of these undocumented
features.
The undocumented features are documented in My Ways? :-)
Esp. the two MyWay's written by the author who mentioned that ;)
If you write a lot of maths, it's worth reading them.
plain TeX math is still valid, but there were some additions which can
simplify writing and enumerating your exotic formulas.
See http://wiki.contextgarden.net/My_Way
Most other MyWay's deal with fonts.
I found a few of those also, and it is very confusing to a newbie
(such as myself) to figure out what is old and valid and what is old
and not-so-valid...
I don't have a good overview, but I don't know that many
not-so-valid things. Most drastic differences might have been made
in the area of fonts (and things will probably have to be improved
further once there will be native OpenType support available), textext
should better be replaced with \sometxt{} in metapost graphics and
you're discouraged to use the Dutch interface for low-level commands
;)
I don't remember much more than that. There have been drastic
improvements behind the scenes, but that should go unnoticed to the
user (except for noting that ConTeXt now runs much faster than three
years ago). Old things are still valid, there might only be some new
things that you might not know about once you've read the manual.
(plain) TeX is about 25 and still valid. Only that there are a few
commands available out there which can simplify things.
Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Manual (English) Update soon?
So, I've been contemplating whether I should move up the
abstraction ladder to ConTeXt or down to plain TeX and really
learn to build the world from boxes and glue. :-)
I wrote my dissertation using plain TeX plus eplain, and spent several
days learning about insertions so that I could float figures in the
margin. It looked decent, but I got tired of maintaining and
improving the macro hackery, so I decided to leap over LaTeX to
ConTeXt. I use LaTeX under duress (e.g. journal gives you a style
file). But for any document where I decide the layout, I use ConTeXt,
and I'm very happy with the decision to leap.
Here is a hello-world template that I just wrote. It contains many of
the ConTeXt commands that I use most frequently. Maybe it should go
on the wiki?
-Sanjoy
% Hello world! document for the ConTeXt typesetting system
%
% === History ===
% 2006-12-29 Sanjoy Mahajan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
% * Created
%
% This document is the public domain (no copyright).
\setupcolors[state=start] % otherwise you get greyscale
\definecolor[headingcolor][r=1,b=0.4]
% for the document info/catalog (reported by 'pdfinfo', for example)
\setupinteraction[state=start, % make hyperlinks active, etc.
title={Hello world!},
subtitle={A ConTeXt template},
author={Sanjoy Mahajan},
keyword={template}]
% useful urls
\useURL[author-email][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@somewhere.edu]
\useURL[wiki][http://wiki.contextgarden.net][][\ConTeXt\ wiki]
\useURL[sanjoy][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@mit.edu]
% for US paper; the sensible default is [A4][A4] (A4 typesetting,
% printed on A4 paper)
\setuppapersize[letter][letter]
\setuplayout[topspace=0.5in, backspace=1in, header=24pt, footer=36pt,
height=middle, width=middle]
% uncomment the next line to see the layout
% \showframe
% headers and footers
\setupfooter[style=\it]
\setupfootertexts[\date\hfill \ConTeXt\ template]
\setuppagenumbering[location={header,right}, style=bold]
\setupbodyfont[11pt]% default is 12pt
\setuphead[section,chapter,subject][color=headingcolor]
\setuphead[section,subject][style={\ss\bfa},
before={\bigskip\bigskip}, after={}]
\setuphead[chapter][style={\ss\bfd}]
\setuphead[title][style={\ss\bfd},
before={\begingroup\setupbodyfont[14.4pt]},
after={\leftline{\ss\tfa A. U. Thor $\langle$\from[author-email]$\rangle$}
\bigskip\bigskip\endgroup}]
\setupitemize[inbetween={}, style=bold]
% set inter-paragraph spacing
\setupwhitespace[medium]
% comment the next line to not indent paragraphs
\setupindenting[medium, yes]
\starttext
\title{Hello, world!}
Here is a hello-world template document to illustrates a few \ConTeXt\
features. Have fun. You can find a lot more information at
\from[wiki]; the preceding text should be colored and clickable, and
clicking it should take you to the wiki.
\subject{A list}
Here is an example of a list.
\startitemize[a]% tags are lowercase letters
\item first
\item second
\item third
\stopitemize
\subject{Math}
An equation can be typeset inline like $e^{\pi i}+1=0$, or as a
displayed formula:
\startformula
\int_0^\infty t^4 e^{-t}\,dt = 24.
\stopformula
% don't use $$...$$ (the plain TeX equivalent)
You can also have numbered equations:
\placeformula[eq:factorial-example]\startformula
\int_0^\infty t^5 e^{-t}\,dt = 120.
\stopformula
And you can refer to them by name. I called the previous equation {\tt
factorial-example}, and it is equation \in[eq:factorial-example].
\ConTeXt\ figures out the number for you. And with interaction turned
on, you can click on the equation number to get to the equation.
\subject{Text with figures}
Now text with a few figures. The first figure goes on the right, with
the paragraph flowing around it.
\placefigure[right,none]{}{\externalfigure[dummy]}
\input tufte
The next figure will go inline, like a displayed formula:
\placefigure[here,none]{}{\externalfigure[dummy]}
\input tufte
Here's another reference to the numbered equation -- equation
\in[eq:factorial-example] on \at{page}[eq:factorial-example], so that
you can test clicking on it or on the page reference.
% most plain TeX commands work
\vfill
\noindent
\framed[corner=round, width=\textwidth,height=1in,
backgroundcolor=gray,background=color]
{This document is in the public domain, so that you can improve it, share
it, and otherwise do what you want with it.
Suggestions are welcome. You can send them to me
at \from[sanjoy] (Sanjoy Mahajan).}
\stoptext
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[NTG-context] Manual (English) Update soon?
Hello again, I've just recently tried to get up to speed on ConTeXt by reading what I could find on the web, including cont-eni.pdf (ConTeXt the manual by Hans Hagen, November 12th, 2001). Recent activity on this list, discussing the Debian packaging, says (and I commented on this a few days ago in another thread): ConTeXt is developed rapidly, often in response to requests from the friendly user community. And so I am wondering if ConTeXt is still too fresh... and if I'll have any chance of figuring out what/how to use it without having been on this list for the past 4+ years... (IIRC, Hans is also a core team member of LuaTeX, so perhaps I should just suck it up with LaTeX until LuaTeX is viable?) Advice, comments, etc. appreciated... --Doug ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Manual (English) Update soon?
On Thu, 28 Dec 2006, Douglas Philips wrote: Hello again, I've just recently tried to get up to speed on ConTeXt by reading what I could find on the web, including cont-eni.pdf (ConTeXt the manual by Hans Hagen, November 12th, 2001). That is the most up to date manual and should get you started for most of the basic features. The features that are not in the manual are mostly related to specific needs, so you can get around even if you do not know about them. Some My Ways discuss some of these undocumented features. Recent activity on this list, discussing the Debian packaging, says (and I commented on this a few days ago in another thread): ConTeXt is developed rapidly, often in response to requests from the friendly user community. And so I am wondering if ConTeXt is still too fresh... and if I'll have any chance of figuring out what/how to use it without having been on this list for the past 4+ years... Just give it a shot. The is Latex in proper context by Berend de Boer which can help in the transition. The general information on http://wiki.contextgarden.net/From_LaTeX_to_ConTeXt is also useful. Context is very stable, and much better documented than latex. You can start with small documents in context to get comfortable with it. The best documents to start are those where you do not have a strict formatting requirement, so that you do not need to worry if you can not get something working. (IIRC, Hans is also a core team member of LuaTeX, so perhaps I should just suck it up with LaTeX until LuaTeX is viable?) LuaTeX is not a replacement for LaTeX. It is a replacement for pdfTeX. For the normal user, LuaTeX is not going to make too much of a different. It will make things a lot easier if you want to write really complicated macros. With context, the user will not even notice the change, other than some improvement in speed, and some of the pending feature requests getting implemented. So, if you are planning on switching to context, there is no real need to wait for luatex. Read Context an excursion and Latex in proper context to get started, and keep scanning through Context the manual. If you are stuck, search the wiki and the mailing list, and if you can not figure it out, ask on the list. HTH, Aditya ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Manual (English) Update soon?
On 12/28/06, Douglas Philips wrote:
Hello again,
I've just recently tried to get up to speed on ConTeXt by reading
what I could find on the web, including
cont-eni.pdf (ConTeXt the manual by Hans Hagen, November 12th, 2001).
Recent activity on this list, discussing the Debian packaging, says
(and I commented on this a few days ago in another thread):
ConTeXt is developed rapidly, often in response to requests from the
friendly user community.
Well, the ConTeXt manual is one of the most stable components of
ConTeXt indeed ;)
But consider it from the bright side:
yes, it's still fully usable (after two years of using ConTeXt it's
still hard to do anything without using it), everything mentioned
there should still work (unless there has been some bug introduced in
the mean time) and the major functionality has been there at that time
already.
Yes, there have been many improvements since then, but if I'm looking
for a particular one, there's still google, grep (my best friend) and
a friendly mailing list which has been following ConTeXt development
for the last five years. Major things have been mentioned in one of
the other hundred of the manuals (nice reading for long rainy nights),
additional options can sometimes only be found in source.
That's surely no excuse for not refreshing the manual, but there's no
excuse for not sharing your experience on the wiki or web version of
texshow either.
But to be honest: what if you were using LaTeX? I don't know any page
or book where all the packages would be described. Sure, the best,
most widely used package make it into books with time, but for the
others you can't do anything without mailing lists and search engines
either. And then you learn to use one package which becomes obsolete
and unmaintained, so after two years when you finally become
comfortable with it you figure out that it would make sense to switch
to another better package, the same story after two years ... At least
that's what I experience with packages for graphics: I've learnt
picTeX with troubles just to figure out that it's completely useless,
then there was some other don't-remember-which package, still too poor
to do anything there, then I finally discovered PSTricks which became
kind-of-obsolete with pdfTeX or XeTeX. The same story with just about
any package for creating slides or changing page layout, headers,
footers (and they all took a lot of time to learn how to use them),
not to mention the changes in base LaTeX (documentstyle -
documentclass{article} - Komma script) and the fact that most
packages become unmaintained after they have been written.
And so I am wondering if ConTeXt is still too fresh...
It's always full of surprizes. But what do you mean with too fresh?
If you're worried that your colleagues don't have the latest version
of ConTeXt installed (and thus won't be able to compile your code)
then you're probably right. (But if you want to use the latest packeg
from LaTeX, there's even more chance that they won't have it. In
ConTeXt you know at least that downloading one thing should suffice.)
and if I'll
have any chance of figuring out what/how to use it without having
been on this list for the past 4+ years...
Take it from the bright side: even if you were on the list, you
wouldn't have time to follow it unless you were a student ;)
And take it from the bright side again: tetex on most linux
distributions is just as old as the manual, so you wouldn't be missing
much ;)
(IIRC, Hans is also a core team member of LuaTeX, so perhaps I should
just suck it up with LaTeX until LuaTeX is viable?)
No reason for, as Aditya already mentioned.
In my opinion It makes no sense to wait for solar-energy car before
you start doing your driver's licence. Unless you intend to design or
produce cars, you shouldn't even notice the difference.
Mojca
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On Thursday 28 December 2006 19:43, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
then I finally discovered PSTricks which became
kind-of-obsolete with pdfTeX or XeTeX. The same story with just about
any package for creating slides or changing page layout, headers,
footers (and they all took a lot of time to learn how to use them),
not to mention the changes in base LaTeX (documentstyle -
documentclass{article} - Komma script) and the fact that most
packages become unmaintained after they have been written.
Jut FYI PSTricks (which runs on Plain TeX as well as LaTeX) can be run as part
of Context. It requires loading a module and an extra pass. Like many of
the undocumented modules there is actually documentation in the module
itself. I suspect that if all the documentation in the source code were
collected and organized in some way we would have a new Context Manual.
And so I am wondering if ConTeXt is still too fresh...
If I have a simple job I use pdftex. If the layout gets complicated at all, or
I need to impose a smaller page on a full size page, or anything else like
that I turn to Context.
It's always full of surprizes. But what do you mean with too fresh?
If you're worried that your colleagues don't have the latest version
of ConTeXt installed (and thus won't be able to compile your code)
then you're probably right. (But if you want to use the latest packeg
from LaTeX, there's even more chance that they won't have it. In
ConTeXt you know at least that downloading one thing should suffice.)
The bad thing about Context is that many errors in parameters etc. are simply
not reported when you compile a document. One of the many good things is
that the elaborate structure is there but not required. Most plain TeX (the
old stuff) documents will run under Context. Make a file with:
Hello world
\bye
and run it through Context. It will work. But with LaTeX you must have a LaTeX
specific statement or two or it won't work.
and if I'll
have any chance of figuring out what/how to use it without having
been on this list for the past 4+ years...
I store all messages on this list forever in a directory. It is more
convenient for me to search that directory than on the wiki. My earliest is
dated in April 2002.
Font handling is a bear but font handling in any version of TeX more complex
than plain is a bear.
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Re: [NTG-context] Manual (English) Update soon?
On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 18:58:25 -0700, John R. Culleton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most plain TeX (the old stuff) documents will run under Context. Careful! This only works with a subset of Plain TeX documents. Don't remember any examples off hand (digging out of the second blizzard in a week!), but don't be surprised if a plain document does not do what you expect... Best Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
