[NTG-context] Re: Again: How to make empty pages by default empty?
Patrick Gundlach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steffen Wolfrum [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This \setupsectionblock[...part][page=no] is a good idea, but the pagebreak definition was wrong. See this: \definepagebreak [chapter] [yes,header,right] I can't see any difference here. I also can't see the difference between \definepagebreak[chapter][empty,header,right] and \definepagebreak[chapter][yes,header,right] But the first one gives three additional pages where just one is needed, and the control over the empty page's header (empty or not) gets lost. The [yes,header,right] solution gives just the page that is needed (for the next chapter to start on a right page) and this page is empty, finally. Steffen ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] Re: Again: How to make empty pages by default empty?
Steffen Wolfrum [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This \setupsectionblock[...part][page=no] is a good idea, but the pagebreak definition was wrong. See this: \definepagebreak [chapter] [yes,header,right] I can't see any difference here. Now it's fine. good to know. Patrick -- You are your own rainbow! ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] Re: Again: How to make empty pages by default empty?
Hi, Steffen Wolfrum [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: may I also ask you for an idea or a statement on this old problem? It is about numbered empty pages that are generated when using a front-, body-, backmatter project structure. Have you tried the suggestions from willi? What is the current state of the problem? Could you post your efforts so far? Please avoid top posts. Patrick -- You are your own rainbow! ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Re: Again: How to make empty pages by default empty?
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From: Steffen Wolfrum [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 10:43 PM
Subject: [NTG-context] Re: Again: How to make empty pages by default empty?
The following message was sent by Willi Egger [EMAIL PROTECTED] on
Mon, 22 Sep 2003 20:16:01 +0200.
gt; Hi Steffen,
From: Steffen Wolfrum [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [NTG-context] Again: How to make empty pages by default empty?
So I don't have to post so many (unanswered) questions any
more...
Posting ConTeXt questions is fun, so don't stop doing this.
Patrick
Alright! So maybe I am also allowed to send again
one of my favorite problems from last week?
Still unanswered. Still unsolved. Very interesting!
To whom it may concern - don't hesitate to post an answer...
Thank you all,
Steffen
Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 10:05 19/09/2003 +0200, you wrote:
Hi Steffen,
\definepagebreak
[chapter]
[yes,header,right]
\definepagebreak
[chapter]
[empty,header,right]
Sorry, but that doesn't work.
When changed the minimal example to...
\definepagebreak
[chapter]
[empty,header,right]
\setuphead
[chapter]
[page=chapter,]
\setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]
\starttext
\startfrontmatter
\completecontent
\stopfrontmatter
\startbodymatter
\chapter {test} \dorecurse{10}{\input tufte }
\chapter {test} \dorecurse{10}{\input tufte }
\chapter {test} \dorecurse{10}{\input tufte }
\stopbodymatter
\stoptext
... we have page numbers on (empty) page number 4, 18 and 19!
Plus there are two strange empty empty pages before the TOC?!
If you want to get a doublesided tzpeset document you should add also
\setuplayout[location=doublesided].
I am not shure, whether the following is correct!
Empty pages at the beginning:
You start the frontmatters with the \completecontent. - I could imagine
that
this is a consequence of the fact that the TOC starts always on a
righthand
page. - Thus at the moment of \startbodymatter tex is already on the
first
page. But after identifying the \completecontents command will create
two
page breaks in order to be able to typeset the TOC on a righthand page.
Pagenumbers on empty pages before starting a new chapter
Chapters begin on a right hand page. If the lefthand page is empty,
there
is
correctly still the pagenumber. I do not know whether it is possible to
check whether the page before a new chapter is completely empty.
Hi Willi, I hope that it can't be to difficult:
Cause the page before a new chapter is actually completely empty JUST
BECAUSE it is generated by (Con)TeX(t) - for chapters should begin on
a right page.
So I only ask for empty pages (without pagenumbers) that are
generated by (Con)TeX(t).
That's not possible in ConTeXt?
Steffen
Try the following:
\definepagebreak
[chapter]
[yes,header,right] % yes instead of emtpy taken from the sources
page-ini.tex line 1611
\setuphead
[chapter]
[page=chapter]
\setuppagenumbering[alternative={doublesided,marginedge}]
\setuplayout[location=doublesided]
This worsk for me, if no \startfrontmatter and \startbodymatter and and the
\stop... equivalents are used.
If I use the \startfrontmatter cum suis then there is a numbered page after
the TOC and the last page if even and empty is also numbered. Inside the
\startbodymatter \stopbodymatter the emptypages at new chapters are empty
pages with an empty header, thus no pagenumber.
Instead o placeing \completecontents you might want to use \placecontent
which prevents the empty pages discussed before.
Willi
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[NTG-context] Re: Again: How to make empty pages by default empty?
The following message was sent by Willi Egger [EMAIL PROTECTED] on
Mon, 22 Sep 2003 20:16:01 +0200.
gt; Hi Steffen,
From: Steffen Wolfrum [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [NTG-context] Again: How to make empty pages by default empty?
So I don't have to post so many (unanswered) questions any more...
Posting ConTeXt questions is fun, so don't stop doing this.
Patrick
Alright! So maybe I am also allowed to send again
one of my favorite problems from last week?
Still unanswered. Still unsolved. Very interesting!
To whom it may concern - don't hesitate to post an answer...
Thank you all,
Steffen
Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 10:05 19/09/2003 +0200, you wrote:
Hi Steffen,
\definepagebreak
[chapter]
[yes,header,right]
\definepagebreak
[chapter]
[empty,header,right]
Sorry, but that doesn't work.
When changed the minimal example to...
\definepagebreak
[chapter]
[empty,header,right]
\setuphead
[chapter]
[page=chapter,]
\setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]
\starttext
\startfrontmatter
\completecontent
\stopfrontmatter
\startbodymatter
\chapter {test} \dorecurse{10}{\input tufte }
\chapter {test} \dorecurse{10}{\input tufte }
\chapter {test} \dorecurse{10}{\input tufte }
\stopbodymatter
\stoptext
... we have page numbers on (empty) page number 4, 18 and 19!
Plus there are two strange empty empty pages before the TOC?!
If you want to get a doublesided tzpeset document you should add also
\setuplayout[location=doublesided].
I am not shure, whether the following is correct!
Empty pages at the beginning:
You start the frontmatters with the \completecontent. - I could imagine
that
this is a consequence of the fact that the TOC starts always on a righthand
page. - Thus at the moment of \startbodymatter tex is already on the first
page. But after identifying the \completecontents command will create two
page breaks in order to be able to typeset the TOC on a righthand page.
Pagenumbers on empty pages before starting a new chapter
Chapters begin on a right hand page. If the lefthand page is empty, there
is
correctly still the pagenumber. I do not know whether it is possible to
check whether the page before a new chapter is completely empty.
Hi Willi, I hope that it can't be to difficult:
Cause the page before a new chapter is actually completely empty JUST
BECAUSE it is generated by (Con)TeX(t) - for chapters should begin on
a right page.
So I only ask for empty pages (without pagenumbers) that are
generated by (Con)TeX(t).
That's not possible in ConTeXt?
Steffen
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