Re: [NTG-context] Re: URw metric files

2005-12-22 Thread Taco Hoekwater


Hi,


Hans Hagen wrote:

My last one, yes. The one that only has lm->cm synonyms, nothing else.


how about vietnamese ... we need to move the berry names to akb then:


I see now that there are no vietnamese fonts in cont-fnt.zip,
I thought you had included the t5 metrics as well.
Those fonts should not be deleted from type-dis then, sorry.


[berry] vs. [adobekb]
does this makes sense?


My original take was: if you know how to install the next context
release, then you also know how to install cont-fnt, and no other
trickery would be needed to get these postscript fonts to work.
Just install cont-fnt if you want texfont names, or use e.g.

  \usetypescript[adobekb][ec]
  \usetypescript[palatino][ec]

if you want to stick to berry names. Anything else will give
you a "missing font" error, but one that should be easier to
solve than the current "utmr8y" errors.

So my plan was: no additional changes, just some removed
\fontsynonyms: the ones that map to (regularly) unavailable fonts.

(The u* and p* files do differ, don't they? If so, what are the 
compatibility issues involved? I remember some differences in spacing.)


I do not think there will be compatibility issues since the old
type-dis used the same actual metrics as the texfont-installed ones
(both the u* (fontinst) and the [encoding]-u* (texfont) ones are
based on the same .afm files, by URW).

The only different ones are the p* ones that are (already and still
will be) loaded by \usetypescript[adobekb]. These may or may not
be based on actual Adobe metrics, I am not sure.

Cheers,
Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] Re: URw metric files

2005-12-22 Thread Hans Hagen

Taco Hoekwater wrote:


Hans Hagen wrote:



So, the original urw files (u*) are no longer shipped? Great, that 
was the only font area left that could break ... so it means that 
(apart from the minimals on the tex collection, context does not work 
in the regular tex live 2005 distribution). Time to move everything 
that is subjected to changes in the base zip -)



The URW metrics are in texlive2005 (in fonts-recommended), but not
in teTeX 3 (most likely they are available in gwtex as well).

But they are nowhere distributed in 8y encoding. And we have
cont-fnt.zip now anyway, so this was a good moment to clean up
type-dis.


Should i replace the current type-dis by this one?



My last one, yes. The one that only has lm->cm synonyms, nothing else.


how about vietnamese ... we need to move the berry names to akb then:

\starttypescript [berry] [t5]

should then become

\starttypescript [adobekb] [t5]

or better

\starttypescript [berry,adobekb] [t5]

and:

\starttypescript [berry,adobekb] [texnansi]
\starttypescript [berry,adobekb] [ec]

does this makes sense?

(The u* and p* files do differ, don't they? If so, what are the 
compatibility issues involved? I remember some differences in spacing.)


Hans


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Re: [NTG-context] Re: URw metric files

2005-12-22 Thread Hans Hagen

Taco Hoekwater wrote:




Hans Hagen wrote:

that's a bit tricky since there may be users out there who haven't or 
can't yet install cont-fnt, so how about


- using the p* names now



isn't that what adobekb is supposed to do? So why not use
the new, empty one and add \usetypescript[adobekb] somewhere?


hm, you mean type-akb.tex ...

i'll give it a thought and when nobody complains i'll kick out the p's 
from type-dis (well, i can then merge dis into whatever); we can extend 
type-akb to listen to the berry typescript names


i will give it a thought

Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] Re: URw metric files

2005-12-22 Thread Taco Hoekwater



Hans Hagen wrote:
that's a bit tricky since there may be users out there who haven't or 
can't yet install cont-fnt, so how about


- using the p* names now


isn't that what adobekb is supposed to do? So why not use
the new, empty one and add \usetypescript[adobekb] somewhere?

Taco
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[NTG-context] Re: URw metric files

2005-12-22 Thread Hans Hagen

Taco Hoekwater wrote:


David Arnold wrote:


Taco, Gerben, et al,

 From Taco's note: "Uncomment the next if you have not installed 
cont- fnt.zip, but instead have a working LaTeX installation.



My bad, I keep forgetting that there are references to non-existent
metric files inside the context distribution. :-/


well, what is being shipped differs per tex (live) distribution unde 
what name and directory so we'll always be a bit behind -)


(i'm not even sure if anything texnansi is shipped in the meantime; need 
to check it)


Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] Re: URw metric files

2005-12-22 Thread Hans Hagen

Taco Hoekwater wrote:


Hans Hagen wrote:



So, the original urw files (u*) are no longer shipped? Great, that 
was the only font area left that could break ... so it means that 
(apart from the minimals on the tex collection, context does not work 
in the regular tex live 2005 distribution). Time to move everything 
that is subjected to changes in the base zip -)



The URW metrics are in texlive2005 (in fonts-recommended), but not
in teTeX 3 (most likely they are available in gwtex as well).

But they are nowhere distributed in 8y encoding. And we have
cont-fnt.zip now anyway, so this was a good moment to clean up
type-dis.


Should i replace the current type-dis by this one?



My last one, yes. The one that only has lm->cm synonyms, nothing else.


that's a bit tricky since there may be users out there who haven't or 
can't yet install cont-fnt, so how about


- using the p* names now
- dropping them around tex live 2006 (when the cont-fnt files are 
around, silently ignoring the berry scripts -that are then missing- is ok)


(i can imagine putting the simplfied type-dis in the cont-ftn file -)

Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] Re: URw metric files

2005-12-22 Thread Taco Hoekwater

Hans Hagen wrote:


So, the original urw files (u*) are no longer shipped? Great, that was 
the only font area left that could break ... so it means that (apart 
from the minimals on the tex collection, context does not work in the 
regular tex live 2005 distribution). Time to move everything that is 
subjected to changes in the base zip -)


The URW metrics are in texlive2005 (in fonts-recommended), but not
in teTeX 3 (most likely they are available in gwtex as well).

But they are nowhere distributed in 8y encoding. And we have
cont-fnt.zip now anyway, so this was a good moment to clean up
type-dis.


Should i replace the current type-dis by this one?


My last one, yes. The one that only has lm->cm synonyms, nothing else.

Taco
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[NTG-context] Re: URw metric files

2005-12-22 Thread Hans Hagen

Taco Hoekwater wrote:


Please give it a try and let me know if you run into trouble.
(you have to replace your current one of course, and regenerate
the format).


So, the original urw files (u*) are no longer shipped? Great, that was 
the only font area left that could break ... so it means that (apart 
from the minimals on the tex collection, context does not work in the 
regular tex live 2005 distribution). Time to move everything that is 
subjected to changes in the base zip -)


Should i replace the current type-dis by this one?
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