Re: [NTG-context] References formatting (m-bib related problems)
Taco Hoekwater a écrit : >If you want the bib module to do it's formatting a certain way, send >me an example of input & desired output. > Ok, see http://renojrl.lrv.uvsq.fr/bibsample.pdf (extracted from an old report made in 2003 with a hacked bst based on http://www.irit.fr/~Gael.Jaffre/LOGICIELS/LATEX_BIBTEX/MODIF_GAEL/frcomplet.bst) I have just used normal \cite calls + a standard bib file... > I do not know what "LaTeX + >bibTeX do that by default with apa style", nor do I especially want >to learn precisely what it does, just so I can mimic it for the bib >module in case someone needs ConTeXt to behave exactly like LaTeX. > > > I have checked, this is not at all the default behaviour of LaTeX+bibTeX, sorry... >The formatting in "bibl-apa" is taken from the guidelines on >the http://www.apastyle.org website. If that is actually wrong, >I do not know where to look instead. > > > You're right, using guidelines is the best approach. Ok, my wishes are not in respect with the "standards". >Greetings, Taco > >___ >ntg-context mailing list >ntg-context@ntg.nl >http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > > > > ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] References formatting (m-bib related problems)
Renaud AUBIN wrote: > I have not checked but I think I have already submitted this problem 2 > or 3 months ago when I began to play with ConTeXt & m-bib... To all: Am > I the only one who want to do this kind of bib formatting ??? I think > LaTeX + bibTeX do that by default with apa style... IMHO, it's a key > feature... If you want the bib module to do it's formatting a certain way, send me an example of input & desired output. I do not know what "LaTeX + bibTeX do that by default with apa style", nor do I especially want to learn precisely what it does, just so I can mimic it for the bib module in case someone needs ConTeXt to behave exactly like LaTeX. The formatting in "bibl-apa" is taken from the guidelines on the http://www.apastyle.org website. If that is actually wrong, I do not know where to look instead. Greetings, Taco ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] References formatting (m-bib related problems)
Hi Taco, Taco Hoekwater a écrit : >About the overall formatting: have you tried using num-fr >together with \setuppublications[refcommand=authoryears] ? > > Ok, formatting is better with \setuppublications[alternative=num-fr,sorttype=bbl,numbering=yes] >I'll try to have a look at your labelling request today or >tomorrow, but I cannot promise. > I have not checked but I think I have already submitted this problem 2 or 3 months ago when I began to play with ConTeXt & m-bib... To all: Am I the only one who want to do this kind of bib formatting ??? I think LaTeX + bibTeX do that by default with apa style... IMHO, it's a key feature... Cheers, Renaud ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] References formatting (m-bib related problems)
Renaud AUBIN wrote: > It's confirmed: same problems with t-bib-2006.03.13.zip About the overall formatting: have you tried using num-fr together with \setuppublications[refcommand=authoryears] ? I'll try to have a look at your labelling request today or tomorrow, but I cannot promise. > ( Please Taco, is it possible to remove leftover "year needed" messages ? ) The are gone in the version I sent Hans for the next context release (that will be real soon now, i hope) Cheers, Taco ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] References formatting (m-bib related problems)
It's confirmed: same problems with t-bib-2006.03.13.zip
( Please Taco, is it possible to remove leftover "year needed" messages
? )
Renaud AUBIN a écrit :
Hi all,
At first, I use m-bib-beta-20060208.zip. Up to now, I used:
\setupbibtex[database=biblio,sort=author]
\setuppublications[alternative=num-fr,sorttype=bbl,numbering=yes]
%% In order to format Names with small capitals:
\def\mynormalauthor#1#2#3#4#5%
{\bibdoif{#1}{#1\bibalternative{firstnamesep}}%
\bibdoif{#2}{#2\bibalternative{vonsep}}%
\bgroup\sc#3\egroup\bibalternative{surnamesep}\unskip
\bibdoif{#5}{#5\unskip}}
\setuppublicationlist
[artauthor=\mynormalauthor,
editor=\mynormalauthor,
author=\mynormalauthor]
Everything works fine, but now I would use apa-fr and I have some
problems. After discussing this topic with Taco on #context, I have
tried the following code:
% \cite[name00] should return [Name, 2000]
\unprotect\def\mybibcommand#1{\expanded{\cite[\@@pbk]}~~} \protect
\setupbibtex[database=biblio,sort=author]
\setuppublications[alternative=apa,sorttype=bbl,numbercommand=\mybibcommand,
numbering=yes,autohang=yes]
\setupcite[authoryears][left={[},right={]}]
So, just forget to format the authors with normalauthor & small
capitals It's ok for the cite command but labels of the references
listing is wrong (each label are the same and correspond in fact to the
last entry ! )... Any idea ???
Add to this the fact that I don't like the formatting of the year ->
(1999). Since I like the formatting applied with num-fr, how to
reproduce it with apa-fr.
(I have tested apa and apa-fr and it gives same results in either)
Cheers,
Renaud
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[NTG-context] References formatting (m-bib related problems)
Hi all,
At first, I use m-bib-beta-20060208.zip. Up to now, I used:
\setupbibtex[database=biblio,sort=author]
\setuppublications[alternative=num-fr,sorttype=bbl,numbering=yes]
%% In order to format Names with small capitals:
\def\mynormalauthor#1#2#3#4#5%
{\bibdoif{#1}{#1\bibalternative{firstnamesep}}%
\bibdoif{#2}{#2\bibalternative{vonsep}}%
\bgroup\sc#3\egroup\bibalternative{surnamesep}\unskip
\bibdoif{#5}{#5\unskip}}
\setuppublicationlist
[artauthor=\mynormalauthor,
editor=\mynormalauthor,
author=\mynormalauthor]
Everything works fine, but now I would use apa-fr and I have some
problems. After discussing this topic with Taco on #context, I have
tried the following code:
% \cite[name00] should return [Name, 2000]
\unprotect\def\mybibcommand#1{\expanded{\cite[\@@pbk]}~~} \protect
\setupbibtex[database=biblio,sort=author]
\setuppublications[alternative=apa,sorttype=bbl,numbercommand=\mybibcommand,
numbering=yes,autohang=yes]
\setupcite[authoryears][left={[},right={]}]
So, just forget to format the authors with normalauthor & small
capitals It's ok for the cite command but labels of the references
listing is wrong (each label are the same and correspond in fact to the
last entry ! )... Any idea ???
Add to this the fact that I don't like the formatting of the year ->
(1999). Since I like the formatting applied with num-fr, how to
reproduce it with apa-fr.
(I have tested apa and apa-fr and it gives same results in either)
Cheers,
Renaud
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