Re: [NTG-context] Removing the quotes from the results of the reference links

2012-03-29 Thread Hans Hagen

On 29-3-2012 17:24, luigi scarso wrote:

On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 5:18 PM, Alan BRASLAU  wrote:

On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 16:03:11 +0200
Hans Hagen  wrote:


   author={\getvariable{Book}{author}},

the expansion introduces the ,



just to play it safe, putting {} around all \getvariable{}{} as in
author={\getvariable{Book}{author}},
does not change anything.

Acroread still displays quotes around the authors.
Curiously, they do not appear under okular, so this is probably an
Acroread quirk.

Alan

probably yes

\nopdfcompression
\setvariables [Book]
[
title={My title},
subtitle={My subtitle},
author={First Author, Second Author and Third Author},
]
\setupinteraction
[
title=\getvariable{Book}{title},
subtitle=\getvariable{Book}{subtitle},
author=\getvariable{Book}{author},
keyword={keyword1, keyword2, keyword3},
]
\starttext
\input tufte
\stoptext

then open the pdf and you will see
x:xmpmeta xmlns:x="adobe:ns:meta/">
 http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#";>
 http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/";>
 application/pdf
 
 
 First Author, Second Author and Third
Author

(if you want to be sure, you can modify
 First Author, Second Author and Third
Author
in
 Zirst Author, Second Author and Third
Author
)




You can also try pdfinfo:

Title:  My title
Subject:My subtitle
Keywords:   keyword1 keyword2 keyword3
Author: First Author, Second Author and Third Author
Creator:ConTeXt - 2012.03.29 19:19
Producer:   LuaTeX-0.71.0
CreationDate:   03/29/12 19:44:57
ModDate:03/29/12 19:44:57
Tagged: no
Pages:  1
Encrypted:  no
Page size:  595.276 x 841.89 pts (A4)
File size:  14908 bytes
Optimized:  no
PDF version:1.6

and

/Creator 



definitely starts with an F

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Re: [NTG-context] Removing the quotes from the results of the reference links

2012-03-29 Thread luigi scarso
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 5:18 PM, Alan BRASLAU  wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 16:03:11 +0200
> Hans Hagen  wrote:
>
>>                   author={\getvariable{Book}{author}},
>>
>> the expansion introduces the ,
>>
>
> just to play it safe, putting {} around all \getvariable{}{} as in
>        author={\getvariable{Book}{author}},
> does not change anything.
>
> Acroread still displays quotes around the authors.
> Curiously, they do not appear under okular, so this is probably an
> Acroread quirk.
>
> Alan
probably yes

\nopdfcompression
\setvariables [Book]
   [
   title={My title},
   subtitle={My subtitle},
   author={First Author, Second Author and Third Author},
   ]
\setupinteraction
   [
   title=\getvariable{Book}{title},
   subtitle=\getvariable{Book}{subtitle},
   author=\getvariable{Book}{author},
   keyword={keyword1, keyword2, keyword3},
   ]
\starttext
\input tufte
\stoptext

then open the pdf and you will see
x:xmpmeta xmlns:x="adobe:ns:meta/">
http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#";>
http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/";>
application/pdf


First Author, Second Author and Third
Author

(if you want to be sure, you can modify
First Author, Second Author and Third
Author
in
Zirst Author, Second Author and Third
Author
)


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Re: [NTG-context] Removing the quotes from the results of the reference links

2012-03-29 Thread Alan BRASLAU
On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 16:03:11 +0200
Hans Hagen  wrote:

>   author={\getvariable{Book}{author}},
> 
> the expansion introduces the ,
> 

just to play it safe, putting {} around all \getvariable{}{} as in
author={\getvariable{Book}{author}},
does not change anything.

Acroread still displays quotes around the authors.
Curiously, they do not appear under okular, so this is probably an
Acroread quirk.

Alan
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Re: [NTG-context] Removing the quotes from the results of the reference links

2012-03-29 Thread Hans Hagen

On 29-3-2012 14:24, Alan BRASLAU wrote:

I have:

\setvariables [Book]
 [
 title={My title},
 subtitle={My subtitle},
 author={First Author, Second Author and Third Author},
 ]
\setupinteraction
 [
 title=\getvariable{Book}{title},
 subtitle=\getvariable{Book}{subtitle},
 author=\getvariable{Book}{author},


 author={\getvariable{Book}{author}},

the expansion introduces the ,


 keyword={keyword1, keyword2, keyword3},
 ]


and this yields (in acroread 9):

Title: My title
Author: "First Author, Second Author and Third Author"
Subject: My subtitle
Keywords: keyword1 keyword2 keyword3


So, quotation marks (" ") get put around the author;
The subtitle becomes the subject;
and adding the trailing comma after keyword={},
indeed removes the {} but also removes the explicit commas.

Alan



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Re: [NTG-context] Removing the quotes from the results of the reference links

2012-03-29 Thread Alan BRASLAU
I have:

\setvariables [Book]
[
title={My title},
subtitle={My subtitle},
author={First Author, Second Author and Third Author},
]
\setupinteraction
[
title=\getvariable{Book}{title},
subtitle=\getvariable{Book}{subtitle},
author=\getvariable{Book}{author},
keyword={keyword1, keyword2, keyword3},
]


and this yields (in acroread 9):

Title: My title
Author: "First Author, Second Author and Third Author"
Subject: My subtitle
Keywords: keyword1 keyword2 keyword3


So, quotation marks (" ") get put around the author;
The subtitle becomes the subject;
and adding the trailing comma after keyword={},
indeed removes the {} but also removes the explicit commas.

Alan
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Re: [NTG-context] Removing the quotes from the results of the reference links

2012-03-29 Thread Hans Hagen

On 29-3-2012 11:48, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 10:51, Hans Hagen wrote:

On 29-3-2012 10:41, Mojca Miklavec wrote:


I get the braces when there is a space after braces, for example

\setupinteraction
 [author=me,
  title={long title}
 ]

I solved the problem by adding a comma right after the last brace, but
I would also call that "a hint of a tiny buglet somewhere" ;)



hm, but such a space before is always valid in key/value assignment or ] so
there is no difference between

title={long title}
]

title={long title}
,

That has always been the case (ignoring leading an dtrailing spaces of a key
would demand parsing token by token and that's not going to happen as it
would slow down context a lot (so many parsing all over the place)


It seems that it is not the case here. But are you able to reproduce
the behaviour? I get


pdfinfo filename.pdf

Title:  {long title}
Author: me


Sure, as this gets split:

"{a,b,c}"

And this is seen as a whole:

"{a,b,c} "

and is not split

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Re: [NTG-context] Removing the quotes from the results of the reference links

2012-03-29 Thread Jaroslav Hajtmar

Hello all,
Thanks for all the advice. Just allow me a little note:
Due compatibility I compile my documents by ConTeXt MKIV, which is part 
of TeXLive the 2011.  Command \getreference [title][ref], who described 
Wolfgang, here does not work!!! But this command is functional in the 
MKIV minimals standalone version.

So I took the advice Steffen Wolfrum now, who works in both versions.

Given that otherwise often work in minimals standalone version of 
ConTeXt, so I made a comment about Wolfgang advice - thanx.


Thanx again.
Jaroslav Hajtmar



Dne 29.3.2012 10:51, Hans Hagen napsal(a):

On 29-3-2012 10:41, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 10:32, Hans Hagen wrote:

On 29-3-2012 09:11, Alan BRASLAU wrote:


On a similar line, concerning syntax (but not references),
the braces grouping keywords get passed on to the pdf properties:

\setupinteraction [keyword={syntax, braces, commas}]

Is this a bug or else the incorrect use of braces?



That's weird, as here I get no { } in the properties shown by 
acrobat and

the xml blob in the pdf has

syntax braces commas


I get the braces when there is a space after braces, for example

\setupinteraction
 [author=me,
  title={long title}
 ]

I solved the problem by adding a comma right after the last brace, but
I would also call that "a hint of a tiny buglet somewhere" ;)


hm, but such a space before is always valid in key/value assignment or 
] so there is no difference between


title={long title}
]

title={long title}
,

That has always been the case (ignoring leading an dtrailing spaces of 
a key would demand parsing token by token and that's not going to 
happen as it would slow down context a lot (so many parsing all over 
the place)


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Re: [NTG-context] Removing the quotes from the results of the reference links

2012-03-29 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 10:51, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 29-3-2012 10:41, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>>
>> I get the braces when there is a space after braces, for example
>>
>> \setupinteraction
>>     [author=me,
>>      title={long title}
>>     ]
>>
>> I solved the problem by adding a comma right after the last brace, but
>> I would also call that "a hint of a tiny buglet somewhere" ;)
>
>
> hm, but such a space before is always valid in key/value assignment or ] so
> there is no difference between
>
> title={long title}
> ]
>
> title={long title}
> ,
>
> That has always been the case (ignoring leading an dtrailing spaces of a key
> would demand parsing token by token and that's not going to happen as it
> would slow down context a lot (so many parsing all over the place)

It seems that it is not the case here. But are you able to reproduce
the behaviour? I get

> pdfinfo filename.pdf
Title:  {long title}
Author: me

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Removing the quotes from the results of the reference links

2012-03-29 Thread Hans Hagen

On 29-3-2012 10:41, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 10:32, Hans Hagen wrote:

On 29-3-2012 09:11, Alan BRASLAU wrote:


On a similar line, concerning syntax (but not references),
the braces grouping keywords get passed on to the pdf properties:

\setupinteraction [keyword={syntax, braces, commas}]

Is this a bug or else the incorrect use of braces?



That's weird, as here I get no { } in the properties shown by acrobat and
the xml blob in the pdf has

syntax braces commas


I get the braces when there is a space after braces, for example

\setupinteraction
 [author=me,
  title={long title}
 ]

I solved the problem by adding a comma right after the last brace, but
I would also call that "a hint of a tiny buglet somewhere" ;)


hm, but such a space before is always valid in key/value assignment or ] 
so there is no difference between


title={long title}
]

title={long title}
,

That has always been the case (ignoring leading an dtrailing spaces of a 
key would demand parsing token by token and that's not going to happen 
as it would slow down context a lot (so many parsing all over the place)


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Re: [NTG-context] Removing the quotes from the results of the reference links

2012-03-29 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 10:32, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 29-3-2012 09:11, Alan BRASLAU wrote:
>>
>> On a similar line, concerning syntax (but not references),
>> the braces grouping keywords get passed on to the pdf properties:
>>
>> \setupinteraction [keyword={syntax, braces, commas}]
>>
>> Is this a bug or else the incorrect use of braces?
>
>
> That's weird, as here I get no { } in the properties shown by acrobat and
> the xml blob in the pdf has
>
> syntax braces commas

I get the braces when there is a space after braces, for example

\setupinteraction
[author=me,
 title={long title}
]

I solved the problem by adding a comma right after the last brace, but
I would also call that "a hint of a tiny buglet somewhere" ;)

(It also took me some time to realize that one has to use subtitle
instead of subject and keyword instead of keywords.)

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Removing the quotes from the results of the reference links

2012-03-29 Thread Hans Hagen

On 29-3-2012 09:11, Alan BRASLAU wrote:

On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 08:50:06 +0200
Jaroslav Hajtmar  wrote:


Hello all,
I can not find a way to remove the quotes from the results of the
reference link
Can someone help?


On a similar line, concerning syntax (but not references),
the braces grouping keywords get passed on to the pdf properties:

\setupinteraction [keyword={syntax, braces, commas}]

Is this a bug or else the incorrect use of braces?


That's weird, as here I get no { } in the properties shown by acrobat 
and the xml blob in the pdf has


syntax braces commas

Hans


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Re: [NTG-context] Removing the quotes from the results of the reference links

2012-03-29 Thread Steffen Wolfrum
Hi Jaroslav,

Am 29.03.2012 um 08:50 schrieb Jaroslav Hajtmar:

> Hello all,
> I can not find a way to remove the quotes from the results of the reference 
> link
> Can someone help?
> 
> Thanx
> Jaroslav Hajtmar
> 
> Here is minimal example:
> 
> 
> \starttext
> 
> \section[first]{First}
> 
> \subsection[second]{Second}
> 
> \input tufte
> 
> \in{(see section}{ \about[second] at page \at[second])}[second].
> 
> 
> \stoptext


I use this:

\setupreferencing[left=,right=,width=]

Steffen

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Re: [NTG-context] Removing the quotes from the results of the reference links

2012-03-29 Thread Alan BRASLAU
On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 08:50:06 +0200
Jaroslav Hajtmar  wrote:

> Hello all,
> I can not find a way to remove the quotes from the results of the 
> reference link
> Can someone help?

On a similar line, concerning syntax (but not references),
the braces grouping keywords get passed on to the pdf properties:

\setupinteraction [keyword={syntax, braces, commas}]

Is this a bug or else the incorrect use of braces?

Alan
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Re: [NTG-context] Removing the quotes from the results of the reference links

2012-03-28 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 29.03.2012 um 08:50 schrieb Jaroslav Hajtmar:

> Hello all,
> I can not find a way to remove the quotes from the results of the reference 
> link
> Can someone help?

Use \getreference[title][second] to print the title of the heading.

Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] Removing the quotes from the results of the reference links

2012-03-28 Thread Jaroslav Hajtmar

Hello all,
I can not find a way to remove the quotes from the results of the 
reference link

Can someone help?

Thanx
Jaroslav Hajtmar

Here is minimal example:


\starttext

\section[first]{First}

\subsection[second]{Second}

\input tufte

\in{(see section}{ \about[second] at page \at[second])}[second].


\stoptext



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