Re: [NTG-context] Style file for iPad?
In article 20120306134022.GB29209@khaled-laptop, Khaled Hosny khaledho...@eglug.org wrote: On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 10:40:20PM +1100, Alasdair McAndrew wrote: Yes, but what ebook formats handle mathematics and diagrams? Plus the poor layout support in almost all ebook readers (brain dead paragraph builder, no hyphenation, no OpenType support etc. etc. they are usually pieces of junk for any remotely complex text layout job). It's worse than pre-TeX printed books. Which makes me wonder: is anyone in the world addressing this? Are there people in the TeX community involved in the standardization processes (say, Epub3, but also the various W3C specifications), who could push forward ideas from TeX, like minimum requirements for the algorithms that rendering engines should use? These questions (together with sighs) arise every time I see a web page especially with mathematical notation… Nicola ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Style file for iPad?
On Mar 7, 2012, at 3:34 AM, Nicola wrote: It's worse than pre-TeX printed books. Which makes me wonder: is anyone in the world addressing this? Are there people in the TeX community involved in the standardization processes (say, Epub3, but also the various W3C specifications), who could push forward ideas from TeX, like minimum requirements for the algorithms that rendering engines should use? These questions (together with sighs) arise every time I see a web page especially with mathematical notation… The problem is, since the rendering is based on HTML, people just grab a web browser framework and build on that to make an ebook viewer. Here's a post I wrote up once comparing a specific ePub display on a specific viewing program w/ a hand-tweaked Plain TeX version: http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1371218postcount=7 those who're curious may find it educational to compare my .pdf w/ this ePub version to see the sort of typographic infelicities which even in the best ePub version can't be controlled for --- - one word last lines - # of lines on a page constantly changing to prevent widows / orphans - overly loose line on the middle of pg. 20 - 3 word stack on pg. 21 (meditation/Meditation) - 2 word stack on pg. 32 (black) - 2 word stack on pg. 37 (the) Twice! - six word river on pg. 40 (the/their/the/the/its/we) - 2 word stacks on pg. 40 (a We) - 3 word stack on pg. 46 (the/the/The) - 2 word stack on pg. 47 (a) - awkward break at the bottom of the first page of Chapter VII where the poem is referred to, but appears on the following page (when viewed in Sony's ebook viewing program)). In the .pdf I believe there were only one or two places where I let two word stacks stand (because they were intractable) --- will have to try again using xetex and margin protrusion and character expansion (I'd used DEK's macro for hanging punctuation from _The TeXbook_). William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Style file for iPad?
If this has been asked before, my apologies. Is there a style file for formatting PDFs from ConTeXt for reading on an iPad? So far I've just used \setuppapersize[A4][A4] \setuplayout[backspace=20mm, width=160mm, topspace=20mm, top=0mm, header=0mm, footer=10mm, bottomspace=20mm,bottom=0mm, textheight=250mm] which works fine - for printing - but isn't optimized for the iPad. If anybody has any suggestions or examples, I'd be very grateful of them! Thanks, Alasdair -- Blog: http://amca01.wordpress.com Web: http://sites.google.com/site/amca01/ Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/alasdair.mcandrew ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Style file for iPad?
2012/3/6 Alasdair McAndrew amc...@gmail.com Is there a style file for formatting PDFs from ConTeXt for reading on an iPad? make an ebook instead. PDF files aren’t for screen reading, but for printing. semantic markup like it is used in ebook formats is much better suited for screens of all sizes. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Style file for iPad?
Yes, but what ebook formats handle mathematics and diagrams? -A. On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 10:36 PM, Philipp A. flying-sh...@web.de wrote: 2012/3/6 Alasdair McAndrew amc...@gmail.com Is there a style file for formatting PDFs from ConTeXt for reading on an iPad? make an ebook instead. PDF files aren’t for screen reading, but for printing. semantic markup like it is used in ebook formats is much better suited for screens of all sizes. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ -- Blog: http://amca01.wordpress.com Web: http://sites.google.com/site/amca01/ Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/alasdair.mcandrew ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Style file for iPad?
On 6-3-2012 12:03, Alasdair McAndrew wrote: If this has been asked before, my apologies. Is there a style file for formatting PDFs from ConTeXt for reading on an iPad? So far I've just used \setuppapersize[A4][A4] \setuplayout[backspace=20mm, width=160mm, topspace=20mm, top=0mm, header=0mm, footer=10mm, bottomspace=20mm,bottom=0mm, textheight=250mm] which works fine - for printing - but isn't optimized for the iPad. If anybody has any suggestions or examples, I'd be very grateful of them! copied from s-inf-03.mkiv \setuppapersize [S6,landscape] [S6,landscape] \setuplayout [header=0cm, footer=1cm, backspace=.5cm, topspace=.5cm, width=middle, height=middle] (not that I use the ipad for reading docs ... too must hassle to get something on it) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Style file for iPad?
On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 10:40:20PM +1100, Alasdair McAndrew wrote: Yes, but what ebook formats handle mathematics and diagrams? Plus the poor layout support in almost all ebook readers (brain dead paragraph builder, no hyphenation, no OpenType support etc. etc. they are usually pieces of junk for any remotely complex text layout job). Regards, Khaled ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Style file for iPad?
On Tue, 6 Mar 2012, Alasdair McAndrew wrote: If this has been asked before, my apologies. Is there a style file for formatting PDFs from ConTeXt for reading on an iPad? I use the following style for an ebook reader: https://gist.github.com/1886670 I set the paper size to the physical size of the device screen, use tiny margins, and set an appropriate font size. See http://randomdeterminism.wordpress.com/2009/10/21/creating-a-style-file-in-context/ for example output. Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Style file for iPad?
On Tue, 6 Mar 2012, Hans Hagen wrote: On 6-3-2012 12:03, Alasdair McAndrew wrote: If this has been asked before, my apologies. Is there a style file for formatting PDFs from ConTeXt for reading on an iPad? So far I've just used \setuppapersize[A4][A4] \setuplayout[backspace=20mm, width=160mm, topspace=20mm, top=0mm, header=0mm, footer=10mm, bottomspace=20mm,bottom=0mm, textheight=250mm] which works fine - for printing - but isn't optimized for the iPad. If anybody has any suggestions or examples, I'd be very grateful of them! copied from s-inf-03.mkiv \setuppapersize [S6,landscape] [S6,landscape] A5 is closer to the screen size than S6. Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Style file for iPad?
On 6-3-2012 14:48, Aditya Mahajan wrote: On Tue, 6 Mar 2012, Hans Hagen wrote: On 6-3-2012 12:03, Alasdair McAndrew wrote: If this has been asked before, my apologies. Is there a style file for formatting PDFs from ConTeXt for reading on an iPad? So far I've just used \setuppapersize[A4][A4] \setuplayout[backspace=20mm, width=160mm, topspace=20mm, top=0mm, header=0mm, footer=10mm, bottomspace=20mm,bottom=0mm, textheight=250mm] which works fine - for printing - but isn't optimized for the iPad. If anybody has any suggestions or examples, I'd be very grateful of them! copied from s-inf-03.mkiv \setuppapersize [S6,landscape] [S6,landscape] A5 is closer to the screen size than S6. S6 has an 3:4 aspect ratio Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
