Re: [NTG-context] bold small caps
On 4/3/23 09:07, Peter Münster via ntg-context wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm quite sure, that this worked some time ago with the standard font (LM):
I had the same impression, Peter.
But LM fonts don‘t have the OT feature smcp:
\setuppapersize[A8]
\starttext
\doloopoverlist{lm, pagella, termes, heros}
{\setupbodyfont[\recursestring]
\feature[+][smallcaps]
smcp {\bf smcp}
\feature[-][smallcaps]
smcp {\bf smcp}}
\stoptext
Just in case it makes it clearer,
Pablo
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Re: [NTG-context] bold small caps
On 4/3/2023 9:07 AM, Peter Münster via ntg-context wrote:
Hi,
I'm quite sure, that this worked some time ago with the standard font (LM):
\setff{smallcaps} Normal and \bf bold Small Caps.
(See also https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Bold_small_caps).
But it does not work with the latest ConTeXt version.
How could I get bold small caps with the latest version please?
TIA for any hints,
best use a font that has smallcaps (otherwise use pseudocaps \cap{..} etc)
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[NTG-context] bold small caps
Hi,
I'm quite sure, that this worked some time ago with the standard font (LM):
\setff{smallcaps} Normal and \bf bold Small Caps.
(See also https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Bold_small_caps).
But it does not work with the latest ConTeXt version.
How could I get bold small caps with the latest version please?
TIA for any hints,
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[NTG-context] Bold small caps
Hi,
I always forget how to use bold or italic small caps (I keep mixing
addff/setff and smcp/+smcp/smallcaps etc.). In ideal world it could be
nice if simply
{\sc Normal and \bf Bold Small Caps} or
{\bf\sc Bold Small Caps}
would work out-of-the-box.
The first hit on the wiki was
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Bold_small_caps
which contained just the MKII example. I added a MKIV example
{\setff{smallcaps} Normal and \bf bold Small Caps.}
but the problem is that this example only works with put any font
name here except for the default Latin Modern setup.
Would it make sense to fix this for the default LM setup as well?
Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Bold small caps
Am 23.05.2014 um 17:55 schrieb Mojca Miklavec mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com:
Hi,
I always forget how to use bold or italic small caps (I keep mixing
addff/setff and smcp/+smcp/smallcaps etc.). In ideal world it could be
nice if simply
{\sc Normal and \bf Bold Small Caps} or
{\bf\sc Bold Small Caps}
would work out-of-the-box.
The first hit on the wiki was
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Bold_small_caps
which contained just the MKII example. I added a MKIV example
{\setff{smallcaps} Normal and \bf bold Small Caps.}
but the problem is that this example only works with put any font
name here except for the default Latin Modern setup.
Would it make sense to fix this for the default LM setup as well?
This need to be done by the font designers because Latin Modern
uses a separate font for the small capitals and the \setff (better use
\feature) has no effect in this case.
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Bold small caps
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 6:11 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Am 23.05.2014 um 17:55 schrieb Mojca Miklavec: Would it make sense to fix this for the default LM setup as well? This need to be done by the font designers because Latin Modern uses a separate font for the small capitals and the \setff (better use \feature) has no effect in this case. For some reason I thought that they did both (supported all the small cap glyphs as well as released a separate font). But now I remembered that LM doesn't have bold small caps at all. But apart from fixing the font: would creating some kind of a virtual font with small cap glyphs taken from the other small cap font(s) (where they exist) be feasible/doable? From what I see there are four small caps fonts: regular and italic for both the roman and typewriter style. No bold and no sans. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Bold small caps
On 5/23/2014 5:55 PM, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
Hi,
I always forget how to use bold or italic small caps (I keep mixing
addff/setff and smcp/+smcp/smallcaps etc.). In ideal world it could be
nice if simply
{\sc Normal and \bf Bold Small Caps} or
{\bf\sc Bold Small Caps}
would work out-of-the-box.
The first hit on the wiki was
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Bold_small_caps
which contained just the MKII example. I added a MKIV example
{\setff{smallcaps} Normal and \bf bold Small Caps.}
but the problem is that this example only works with put any font
name here except for the default Latin Modern setup.
Would it make sense to fix this for the default LM setup as well?
I don't know .. I'd rather see lm shipped with the smallcaps in the
regular font instead of separate.
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] Bold small caps
On 5/23/2014 6:46 PM, Mojca Miklavec wrote: On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 6:11 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Am 23.05.2014 um 17:55 schrieb Mojca Miklavec: Would it make sense to fix this for the default LM setup as well? This need to be done by the font designers because Latin Modern uses a separate font for the small capitals and the \setff (better use \feature) has no effect in this case. For some reason I thought that they did both (supported all the small cap glyphs as well as released a separate font). But now I remembered that LM doesn't have bold small caps at all. But apart from fixing the font: would creating some kind of a virtual font with small cap glyphs taken from the other small cap font(s) (where they exist) be feasible/doable? From what I see there are four small caps fonts: regular and italic for both the roman and typewriter style. No bold and no sans. I wonder what the gyre folks would answer if we ask for proper embedding of smallcaps ... Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Bold Small Caps
Hello,
I am trying for bold small caps, such like
{\bf This is bold {\sc and bold small caps} and just bold again}
However, out of the box, the inner {\sc ...} part is not typeset in bold. So
after a bit of looking I found this:
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Bold_small_caps
But it does not work for me. I noticed the module
(http://pmrb.free.fr/work/OS/ConTeXt/) is from 2006, so the bit rot might have
set in. Should it still work? Or is there a better way these days?
Thank you,
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Re: [NTG-context] Bold Small Caps
Am 25.06.2013 um 14:59 schrieb Malte Stien ma...@stien.de:
Hello,
I am trying for bold small caps, such like
{\bf This is bold {\sc and bold small caps} and just bold again}
However, out of the box, the inner {\sc ...} part is not typeset in bold. So
after a bit of looking I found this:
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Bold_small_caps
But it does not work for me. I noticed the module
(http://pmrb.free.fr/work/OS/ConTeXt/) is from 2006, so the bit rot might
have set in. Should it still work? Or is there a better way these days?
When you have a opentype font with bold smallcaps you can enable them with the
\feature command:
\setupbodyfont[pagella]
\starttext
{\bf This is bold {\feature[+][f:smallcaps] and bold small caps} and just bold
again}
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Bold Small Caps
Wolfgang,
Thank you. However, I am getting an undefined control sequence here:
l.4 {\bf This is bold {\feature
[+][f:smallcaps] and bold small caps} and jus...
However, the wiki page http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Featuresets confirms your
syntax. What am I missing?
Regards,
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On 25/06/2013, at 11:08 PM, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com
wrote:
Am 25.06.2013 um 14:59 schrieb Malte Stien ma...@stien.de:
Hello,
I am trying for bold small caps, such like
{\bf This is bold {\sc and bold small caps} and just bold again}
However, out of the box, the inner {\sc ...} part is not typeset in bold. So
after a bit of looking I found this:
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Bold_small_caps
But it does not work for me. I noticed the module
(http://pmrb.free.fr/work/OS/ConTeXt/) is from 2006, so the bit rot might
have set in. Should it still work? Or is there a better way these days?
When you have a opentype font with bold smallcaps you can enable them with
the \feature command:
\setupbodyfont[pagella]
\starttext
{\bf This is bold {\feature[+][f:smallcaps] and bold small caps} and just
bold again}
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Bold Small Caps
Malte wrote:
Thank you. However, I am getting an undefined control sequence here:
l.4 {\bf This is bold {\feature
[+][f:smallcaps] and bold small caps} and
jus...
However, the wiki page http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Featuresets
confirms your syntax. What am I missing?
The version you are using? The `\feature[+][...]` syntax has been
around only since about March 2013; before that you had to use
`\addfeature[...]`. Does that explain the error you're getting?
Cheers,
Sietse
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Re: [NTG-context] bold small caps
On 12-12-2010 8:39, Peter Münster wrote:
On Sun, Dec 12 2010, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
\unexpanded\def\sc{\doifelsecurrentfonthasfeature{smcp}{\addfs{smcp}}\normalsc}
Nice! Hans, what about integration into the core?
when it works out ok, I'm sure that wolfgang and I will look into it
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] bold small caps
On 2010-12-12 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote:
Maybe it is possible that the \sc macro can check if the font contains the
small caps as a feature. Is there a switch like
\doiffontfeatureexists{smcp}{...}?
\startluacode
function commands.doifelsecurrentfonthasfeature(name)
local f = fonts.identifiers[font.current()]
f = f and f.shared
f = f and f.otfdata
f = f and f.luatex
f = f and f.features
commands.doifelse(f and (f.gpos[name] or f.gsub[name]))
end
\stopluacode
\def\doifelsecurrentfonthasfeature#1%
{\ctxlua{commands.doifelsecurrentfonthasfeature(#1)}}
\let\normalsc\sc
\definefontfeature[smcp][smcp=yes]
\definefontfeature[latn][script=latn]
\unexpanded\def\sc{\doifelsecurrentfonthasfeature{smcp}{\addfs{smcp}}\normalsc}
\starttext
\tf text \sc text
\switchtobodyfont[cambria]\addfs{latn} % cambria needs the latin script for
smallcaps
\tf text \addfs{smcp} text
\switchtobodyfont[modern]
\tf text \sc text
\stoptext
That's a nice piece of code! Thanks for your effort.
Marco
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Re: [NTG-context] bold small caps
Am 12.12.2010 um 00:12 schrieb Peter Münster:
On Sat, Dec 11 2010, Florian Wobbe wrote:
{\setff{smallcaps} SmallCaps {\bf BoldCaps}}
Hello,
Thanks! What's the difference between \sc and \setff{smallcaps}?
By default \sc switch to a different font like \it or \bf but now
with opentype fonts smallcaps are a part of many fonts which can
be enabled with the smcp feature.
Could something like \def\sc{\setff{smallcaps}} in the preamble harm
in any way?
I would change this to
\definefontfeature[smcp][mode=node,smcp=yes]
\unexpanded\def\sc{\addfs{smcp}}
Depending on your answers, I would perhaps request to trigger
\setff{smallcaps} by \sc in the core.
Can be a problem because we have font (e.g. Latin Modern) where
smallcaps are still in a separate file.
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] bold small caps
On 2010-12-12 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote:
Depending on your answers, I would perhaps request to trigger
\setff{smallcaps} by \sc in the core.
Can be a problem because we have font (e.g. Latin Modern) where
smallcaps are still in a separate file.
So the user has to know in which fashion the small caps were created, as font
feature or in a seperate file. That's not very convenient. When the user
switches to another font it may break the document, since he has to change the
\setff{smallcaps} to \sc.
Maybe it is possible that the \sc macro can check if the font contains the
small caps as a feature. Is there a switch like
\doiffontfeatureexists{smcp}{...}? I have the following logic in mind:
1) Check if small caps are a font feature, if not
2) check if small caps are in a seperate font, if not
3) fake them.
Regards
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Re: [NTG-context] bold small caps
Am 12.12.2010 um 16:22 schrieb Marco:
On 2010-12-12 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote:
Depending on your answers, I would perhaps request to trigger
\setff{smallcaps} by \sc in the core.
Can be a problem because we have font (e.g. Latin Modern) where
smallcaps are still in a separate file.
So the user has to know in which fashion the small caps were created, as font
feature or in a seperate file. That's not very convenient. When the user
switches to another font it may break the document, since he has to change the
\setff{smallcaps} to \sc.
Maybe it is possible that the \sc macro can check if the font contains the
small caps as a feature. Is there a switch like
\doiffontfeatureexists{smcp}{...}? I have the following logic in mind:
1) Check if small caps are a font feature, if not
2) check if small caps are in a seperate font, if not
3) fake them.
\startluacode
function commands.doifelsecurrentfonthasfeature(name)
local f = fonts.identifiers[font.current()]
f = f and f.shared
f = f and f.otfdata
f = f and f.luatex
f = f and f.features
commands.doifelse(f and (f.gpos[name] or f.gsub[name]))
end
\stopluacode
\def\doifelsecurrentfonthasfeature#1%
{\ctxlua{commands.doifelsecurrentfonthasfeature(#1)}}
\let\normalsc\sc
\definefontfeature[smcp][smcp=yes]
\definefontfeature[latn][script=latn]
\unexpanded\def\sc{\doifelsecurrentfonthasfeature{smcp}{\addfs{smcp}}\normalsc}
\starttext
\tf text \sc text
\switchtobodyfont[cambria]\addfs{latn} % cambria needs the latin script for
smallcaps
\tf text \addfs{smcp} text
\switchtobodyfont[modern]
\tf text \sc text
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] bold small caps
On Sun, Dec 12 2010, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
\unexpanded\def\sc{\doifelsecurrentfonthasfeature{smcp}{\addfs{smcp}}\normalsc}
Nice! Hans, what about integration into the core?
Thanks Wolfgang!
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[NTG-context] bold small caps
Hello,
Is there a font in the minimals with bold small caps? I've tried lm and some
tex-gyre fonts, but no success so far...
Test file:
\setupbodyfont[???]
\starttext
{\sc\bf Test} or {\bf\sc Test} should give bold small caps...
\stoptext
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Pseudo_Small_Caps seems to apply only to mkii.
TIA for any help!
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Re: [NTG-context] bold small caps
On Dec 11, 2010, at 23:40 , Peter Münster wrote:
Hello,
Is there a font in the minimals with bold small caps? I've tried lm and some
tex-gyre fonts, but no success so far...
Test file:
\setupbodyfont[???]
\starttext
{\sc\bf Test} or {\bf\sc Test} should give bold small caps...
\stoptext
Hi, this should work:
\setupbodyfont[pagella]
\starttext
{\setff{smallcaps} SmallCaps {\bf BoldCaps}}
\stoptext
Florian
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Re: [NTG-context] bold small caps
On Sat, Dec 11 2010, Florian Wobbe wrote:
{\setff{smallcaps} SmallCaps {\bf BoldCaps}}
Hello,
Thanks! What's the difference between \sc and \setff{smallcaps}?
Could something like \def\sc{\setff{smallcaps}} in the preamble harm
in any way?
Depending on your answers, I would perhaps request to trigger
\setff{smallcaps} by \sc in the core.
Peter
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Re: [NTG-context] bold small caps with latin modern
On Tue, Nov 18 2008, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: On Tue, Nov 18 2008, Yue Wang wrote: you should apply a font feature to bold font. This is nonsense, the smallcaps for latin modern are a separate font like they had been in computer modern, trying to access them with font feature is useless. Besides this smallcaps are only available for the upright and the italic style but not for the bold. What a pity... With MKII and texlive, I could do this: \definebodyfont[15pt,14pt,13pt,12pt,11pt,10pt,9pt,8pt,7pt,6pt,5pt] [sc] [bf=cmbcsc10 sa 1, tf=cmcsc10 sa 1] \pdfpkresolution=1200 \starttext \sc Normal and \bf bold Small Caps. \stoptext But there seems to be no possibility to use bitmap fonts in the minimals. Once, I've heard about workarounds, for example getting bold by double printing with some displacement. Would this be possible? Cheers, Peter -- http://pmrb.free.fr/contact/ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] bold small caps with latin modern
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 9:20 AM, Peter Münster wrote: But there seems to be no possibility to use bitmap fonts in the minimals. Almost-on-purpose decision. (You can still add some binaries to minimals yourself.) Once, I've heard about workarounds, for example getting bold by double printing with some displacement. Would this be possible? Not by displacement, but you can use \starteffect[outer] in both mkii and mkiv or some embolden option in XeTeX. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] bold small caps with latin modern
On Tue, Nov 18 2008, Yue Wang wrote: you should apply a font feature to bold font. Oh! Cool! Thank you, Yue, you really help! :-D Cheers, Peter -- http://pmrb.free.fr/contact/ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] bold small caps with latin modern
Hello Is it possible to get bold small caps with latin modern and MKIV, and if yes, how? I would like to get working this example file: \starttext \sc Normal and \bf bold Small Caps. \stoptext Thanks in advance for any help, Peter -- http://pmrb.free.fr/contact/ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] bold small caps with latin modern
you should apply a font feature to bold font. On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 4:07 AM, Peter Münster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Is it possible to get bold small caps with latin modern and MKIV, and if yes, how? I would like to get working this example file: \starttext \sc Normal and \bf bold Small Caps. \stoptext Thanks in advance for any help, Peter -- http://pmrb.free.fr/contact/ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] bold small caps
Hello, I just tried the Latin Modern font, but there are no bold small caps available, as in the EC fonts. Is it possible to add EC support to ConTeXt? TIA for any hint, Peter -- http://pmrb.free.fr/contact/ Film Search site: http://f-s.sf.net/ ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
