[NTG-context] footnotes: is this a bug?
Hi all,
this is something that has made me wonder: am I doing something wrong
here, or is this a bug with footnote placement? Run the attached
example, look at the last 2 pages, 5 and 6. On p. 5, the footnotes run
off the page area. On p. 6, why is there so much space between text area
and footnote area. The reason for this somewhat exotic set-up: our
publisher wanted the footnotes of the last page of every chapter to
start right after the text, not at the bottom of the page. In the end, I
told them I couldn't do it, and they were fine with it. But I still
think it should be possible; I've looked into a number of books, and it
seems a common layout in the humanities. Maybe someone has a bright
idea? (Wolfgang, you answered to this problem 2 weeks ago and suggested
having aftersection={\setupnote[footnote][location=high]} in
\setuphead, but this triggers the same problems). So maybe a bug?
All best
Thomas
\showframe
\starttext
\dorecurse{21}{Imagine trying to live in a world dominated by dihydrogen
oxide, a compound that has no taste or smell and is so viable in its
properties that it is generally benign but at other times swiftly
lethal. Depending on its state, it can scald you or freeze you. In the
presence of certain organic molecules it can form carbonic acids so
nasty that they can strip the leaves from trees and eat the faces off
statuary. In bulk, when agitated, it can strike with a fury that no
human edifice could withstand. Even for those who have learned to live
with it, it is often murderous substance.\footnote{In bulk, when
agitated, it can strike with a fury that no human edifice could
withstand. Even for those who have learned to live with it, it is often
murderous substance. We call it water. We call it water. We call it
water.}}
\setupnote[footnote][location=high]Imagine trying to live in a world
dominated by dihydrogen oxide, a compound that has no taste or smell and
is so viable in its properties that it is generally benign but at other
times swiftly lethal. Depending on its state, it can scald you or
freeze you. In the presence of certain organic molecules it can form
carbonic acids so nasty that they can strip the leaves from trees and
eat the faces off statuary. In bulk, when agitated, it can strike with
a fury that no human edifice could withstand. Even for those who have
learned to live with it, it is often murderous substance.\footnote{In
bulk, when agitated, it can strike with a fury that no human edifice
could withstand. Even for those who have learned to live with it, it is
often murderous substance. We call it water. We call it water. We call
it water.}
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] footnotes: is this a bug?
On 22-7-2011 8:03, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: \setuphead, but this triggers the same problems). So maybe a bug? yes, a side effect of having multiple note instances and not having adapted the pagebuilder yet Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] footnotes: is this a bug?
On 07/22/2011 12:53 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: On 22-7-2011 8:03, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: \setuphead, but this triggers the same problems). So maybe a bug? yes, a side effect of having multiple note instances and not having adapted the pagebuilder yet So, any ETA for a fix yet :-) Thomas ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] footnotes: is this a bug?
On 22-7-2011 2:54, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: On 07/22/2011 12:53 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: On 22-7-2011 8:03, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: \setuphead, but this triggers the same problems). So maybe a bug? yes, a side effect of having multiple note instances and not having adapted the pagebuilder yet So, any ETA for a fix yet :-) soon, Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] footnotes: is this a bug?
On 22-7-2011 2:54, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: On 07/22/2011 12:53 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: On 22-7-2011 8:03, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: \setuphead, but this triggers the same problems). So maybe a bug? yes, a side effect of having multiple note instances and not having adapted the pagebuilder yet So, any ETA for a fix yet :-) beta uploaded - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] footnotes: is this a bug?
On 07/22/2011 05:33 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: So maybe a bug? yes, a side effect of having multiple note instances and not having adapted the pagebuilder yet So, any ETA for a fix yet :-) beta uploaded Hans, thanks, this looks a lot better! Nevertheless, one more question: with the example I sent, the high setting for footnotes always begins on the page preceding the paragraph where the \setupnote[footnote][location=high] is put into the text. Is there a rule which governs this behavior? Or: haw can I make sure it is indeed applied to one page only? Thanks, and best wishes Thomas ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] footnotes: is this a bug?
Am 22.07.2011 um 18:45 schrieb Thomas A. Schmitz: thanks, this looks a lot better! Nevertheless, one more question: with the example I sent, the high setting for footnotes always begins on the page preceding the paragraph where the \setupnote[footnote][location=high] is put into the text. Is there a rule which governs this behavior? TeX was still collecting material for page 5 when you set “high” for your footnotes. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] footnotes: is this a bug?
On 22-7-2011 6:45, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: On 07/22/2011 05:33 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: So maybe a bug? yes, a side effect of having multiple note instances and not having adapted the pagebuilder yet So, any ETA for a fix yet :-) beta uploaded Hans, thanks, this looks a lot better! Nevertheless, one more question: with the example I sent, the high setting for footnotes always begins on the page preceding the paragraph where the \setupnote[footnote][location=high] is put into the text. Is there a rule which governs this behavior? Or: haw can I make sure it is indeed applied to one page only? currently not, so best put it at the end of the chapter and then do a \page - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
