Re: [NTG-context] force index entries without page number
> Am 04.09.2020 um 11:59 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster
> :
>
> Henning Hraban Ramm schrieb am 03.09.2020 um 10:17:
>> Hi,
>> I’d like to have an (person) index entry like
>> Ramm, Hraban passim
>> i.e. without actual page number.
>> How can I force that?
>> I also need to be able to refer to it like
>> \seeindex{Hraban}{Ramm, Hraban)
>
>
> You can use this when the entry appears only once which replaces the page
> number with "passim".
>
> \define[1]\Passim
> {passim}
>
> \defineprocessor [passim] [command=\Passim]
>
> \starttext
>
> xxx\index{First}
>
> yyy\index[passim->]{Second}
>
> zzz\seeindex{Third}{Second}
>
> \placeindex
>
> \stoptext
Hi Wolfgang,
forgot to answer: This solution works for me, thank you!
Hraban
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Re: [NTG-context] force index entries without page number
Henning Hraban Ramm schrieb am 03.09.2020 um 10:17:
Hi,
I’d like to have an (person) index entry like
Ramm, Hraban passim
i.e. without actual page number.
How can I force that?
I also need to be able to refer to it like
\seeindex{Hraban}{Ramm, Hraban)
You can use this when the entry appears only once which replaces the
page number with "passim".
\define[1]\Passim
{passim}
\defineprocessor [passim] [command=\Passim]
\starttext
xxx\index{First}
yyy\index[passim->]{Second}
zzz\seeindex{Third}{Second}
\placeindex
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] force index entries without page number
Il 04/09/20 11:01, Henning Hraban Ramm ha scritto:
Am 03.09.2020 um 13:32 schrieb mf :
Use check=yes
But I need check=no, because my author has several entries like
Miller, Carolyne, born Princess of Sayn-Wittgenstein 123–125
Sayn-Wittgenstein, Carolyne of see Miller, Carolyne
i.e. the reference target often has a different wording from the entry,
and thus \seeindex{Something}{} always inserts a "see".
Now I understand.
Since I'm working with XML, I'm using registers in an even stricter way:
the text I'm indexing is actually the ID of a person in a database.
Something like this:
Carolyne
in the main text results in a \index[miller_carolyne]{v18in231}
In another place of the XML there's a record like this:
Miller, Carolyne ...
The deeptextcommand parameter of \setupregister is set to a macro that
takes the ID and gives back the text of the person.
Maybe in the database there's also another record like this:
sort-key="sayn_wittgenstein_carolyne">Sayn-Wittgenstein, Carolyne
Miller, Carolyne
that results in a
\seeindex[sayn_wittgenstein_carolyne]{Sayn-Wittgenstein,
Carolyne}{Miller, Carolyne}
I don’t know how common these "passim" entries are in scientific works; maybe I
could use
Mainperson firstpage–lastpage
instead to avoid the major hassle of tricking the index mechanisms.
in that case \startindex...\stopindex or \startregister...\stopregister
could be your friends.
Massi
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Re: [NTG-context] force index entries without page number
> Am 03.09.2020 um 13:32 schrieb mf :
>
> Use check=yes
But I need check=no, because my author has several entries like
Miller, Carolyne, born Princess of Sayn-Wittgenstein 123–125
Sayn-Wittgenstein, Carolyne of see Miller, Carolyne
i.e. the reference target often has a different wording from the entry,
and thus \seeindex{Something}{} always inserts a "see".
I don’t know how common these "passim" entries are in scientific works; maybe I
could use
Mainperson firstpage–lastpage
instead to avoid the major hassle of tricking the index mechanisms.
Hraban
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Re: [NTG-context] force index entries without page number
Il 03/09/20 11:38, Henning Hraban Ramm ha scritto:
Hi Massi, thank you!
Am 03.09.2020 um 11:09 schrieb mf :
This should be exactly what you asked for:
\defineprocessor[passim][right=\quad{\it passim}]
I didn’t think to use processors.
You need them to get the "passim"; if you include it in the name, then
you should adapt also the \seeindex like this:
\seeindex{Ramm, Hraban\quad{\it passim}}{}
\seeindex{Hraban}{Ramm, Hraban\quad{\it passim}}
(i did not test it, i don't know if it works, and anyway i don't like it
because it's not clean)
\seeindex{passim->Ramm, Hraban}{}
No, this results in
"Ramm, Hraban passim see passim"
Only with check=yes, otherwise it works right.
And
\index{passim->Ramm, Hraban}
results in
"Ramm, Hraban passim 1"
No, see attachment page 2.
I.e. I’m still looking for an index entry without "see" or page number.
\placeindex[check=no]
This is essential for references to not (exactly) existing entries, I forgot
the option existed.
Use check=yes
Massi
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Re: [NTG-context] force index entries without page number
Hi Massi, thank you!
> Am 03.09.2020 um 11:09 schrieb mf :
>
> This should be exactly what you asked for:
>
> \defineprocessor[passim][right=\quad{\it passim}]
I didn’t think to use processors.
> \seeindex{passim->Ramm, Hraban}{}
No, this results in
"Ramm, Hraban passim see passim"
And
\index{passim->Ramm, Hraban}
results in
"Ramm, Hraban passim 1"
I.e. I’m still looking for an index entry without "see" or page number.
> \placeindex[check=no]
This is essential for references to not (exactly) existing entries, I forgot
the option existed.
Hraban
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Re: [NTG-context] force index entries without page number
Useful references I consulted to find a solution: https://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context@ntg.nl/msg88118.html https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Registers#Processors Massi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] force index entries without page number
This should be exactly what you asked for:
\defineprocessor[passim][right=\quad{\it passim}]
\starttext
\samplefile{ward}\index{Ward, Peter}
\samplefile{sapolsky}\index{Sapolsky, Robert}
\seeindex{passim->Ramm, Hraban}{}
\seeindex{Hraban}{Ramm, Hraban}
\page
\placeindex[check=yes]
\page
\placeindex[check=no]
\stoptext
Massi
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Re: [NTG-context] force index entries without page number
Il 03/09/20 10:17, Henning Hraban Ramm ha scritto:
Hi,
I’d like to have an (person) index entry like
Ramm, Hraban passim
i.e. without actual page number.
How can I force that?
I also need to be able to refer to it like
\seeindex{Hraban}{Ramm, Hraban)
\starttext
\samplefile{ward}\index{Ward, Peter}
\samplefile{sapolsky}\index{Sapolsky, Robert}
\seeindex{Ramm, Hraban}{}
\seeindex{Hraban}{Ramm, Hraban}
\page
\placeindex[check=yes]
\page
\placeindex[check=no]
\stoptext
Massi
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[NTG-context] force index entries without page number
Hi,
I’d like to have an (person) index entry like
Ramm, Hraban passim
i.e. without actual page number.
How can I force that?
I also need to be able to refer to it like
\seeindex{Hraban}{Ramm, Hraban)
Hraban
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